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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 1, Episode 15 · 1 year ago

14. One Year Anniversary!

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Happy One Year Anniversary! Join Riley and JW as they discuss the newest changes with SwSh Base set in both Expanded and Standard format. Then, they dive into the successes of the podcast over the last year and a look into the future for Tag Team.

Welcome back tag team listeners, myname is JW creewall and I am here with Riley Hulbert, two regional championson one podcast, absolutely unbelievable. Where else can you find that Riley how you doing today? I know that youare not in Wisconsin, so why don't you tell us a little bit about where youare today? Yeah, I'm just you know, traveling forwork again, this time, I'm in grand rapids Michigan little less warm than California, whichis where I usually travel to, but has fun in its own ways. I got some reallygood food at some cool sites out on the lakes. It looks pretty beautiful rightnow, honestly, when it's a little bit icy, but not quite fully iced over yet.So it's been interesting. It's interesting, but I'm happy t that I'mgoing to get to go home. I've been kind of traveling for the last couple weeksand I just want to do with my cats and my bed. Tat Is re who watches your cats. I will come home between trips and justfeed them and leave them food and really so you Gat. How long can you begone and they'll be fine like three days or something Iam, confident forlike up to four days after that out find a CACITER Gotcha? Okay, once theirbowl start to like completely overflow is when Likethi? Well, here's a little fun fact. You guys that Riley doesn't know his Great Lakes. That's alittle trivia effect for the tag team listeners out there. I just don't think it's important toknow Tham Fair enough. I mean you know, it's just seems very obvious thereareonly five of them. They come in a nice little acronym or wait. What do you? How doyou? How do you feel like if you don't live next to a great lake is'? Youdon't even learn that you never learned about homes Bro, I maybe I did, but I wouldn't rememberit because I didn't live next ut you well, you do you're in Wisconsin,Wisconsin Directly Bord of the Kid Allrighta, the O, so much ril for the SU pog awesome. So today we have a. We have a huge huge list of things to go over. This is, you know, we're celebrating today, butthis is marking approximately one year as a team of this podcast. How do youfat it's? It's pretty crazy man. I mean wekind of just we came up with the idea on a Wim. I asked you right after I started my job and wasconstant. Like Hey, you know you're getting into this little streamingthing, I'm interested in doing content. I think we make a good team woy. Whatdo you think we could do together and it's been fun, like you know, even fromthe Gecko, it was fun like figuring out what that would look like and how wewould develop that, and it's been fun like going on that journey for the lastyear. Right we've had some pretty pretty good times, I'd say in the lastyear, and I'm excited I mean it. It really feels like recently, we've beenpicking up some steam and that's very fun. It was cool. I remember thefunniest thing, just like all the weird names that we were trying to come upwith at the start of the show like what we ere going to call ourselves for somereason. I just remember you being very like hesitant about tag team, and I waslike man. That seems like a really good idea. I can't quite remember what yourthoughts were to call us like what were we going to be called? I honestly, I don't remember, I'm surewe could look back through facebook messages and find it like the fighting,Dojo or something yeah like locations was a big thing.Yeah, you know, like pokmon teams, I'm...

...sure came up, but I thought I was the one who brought uptag team, though I thought that was my no bro. That was totally my idea. Areyou sure I swear? I S Wer Lok, your lying? No, I promise I promise you Iwas like this would be purpose I woas Toug ewas like Oh. We could do all thislike easy branding of it. No, no chance! No chance. It wastotally me first like you're, lying ifeel like Ai'm, notevo. This isn't even me like trying to lie like if I am lying, I'm not tryingto do it. I genuinely think that I feel like a be Ghaslit and like econvinced,that I'm wrong. Well, I mean that that will be like O R, ourmysterious, like investigative, you know, CSI type style, maybe we'll bringthat up next episode after we go through all the DMS, but no, I think it was me well justleave it that that that I believe it was me and we'll move out from there,but we've had you know just a lot of a lot of great thingsthat have happened in the in the last year and and we'll get to those alittle bit later. But first we should talk about thetournaments we miss last week of the cast, and so you know, obviouslywe're catching back up two weeks ago was the Dallas Regional Championship,and you know we saw a lot happen there, obviously a deck that was very good andstandard, also lended itself extremely well to expanded. That was Roxy Chopand we saw Hunter Butler and a number of you know teammates or people thathad that deck list do pretty well in Dallas another deck that saw asignificant success. That was maybe a little bit of a surprise to me, and Imaybe not you but me more so- was Eg Roun. My trusted Rala executor thatdeck just kind of I don't know if it came out of nowhere. I just didn'treally give it that much of a chance didn't think. I would see that muchplay thought it kind of got steamrolled by new darkless and it ended up makingtwo spots out of the top Aighe, so that was pretty impressive there. What wereyour thoughts from Dallas? I know you didn't have a chance to. You know be onthe ground there in Dallas, and you could talk a little bit about why youdidn't end up going to Dallas. But what did you see with all the informationthat came out and through the Stream Yeah? I? Unfortunately I had to MissDallas Tu to whether I wish it was like a more interestingstory but really came down to. I got my flight canceled and I tried to rebookit, but they tried to rout me basically in the same route that would just getme cancelled at a later time in a different place. So so that's unfortunate, but watching isa third party. It was definitely interesting. I mean it was itwas kind of interesting, especiallybecause I felt like I was rooting for Fortina Chop to be a good deck, but Ijust didn't know how it would be a good decksure and itwas cool to see thatlike come to fruition and see like oh well, you know I'm not a completed veon this there's somthing e, but you know. Besides that, I mean youkind of hit the nail on the head. Like Egra was kind of surprising. I was Ohyeah. I did not expect it to do as well as it did, but it clearly hit some really good.Matchups AIS have a great matchup against that Tinashon deck, whateverthat's worth so, but I think tean shop was the realsurpriser and then Trevnor malotic made top a which was crazy. An unreal yeah,that's something I don't think anybody really expected and probably not evenPablo, really expected when he picked up the DEA yyou. Think Pao didn't expect to dothat. Well with the deck. What's that you didn't think you didn't think Pabloexpected to do well with the deck I...

...maybe he expected to do. Well, I don'tthink he expected to like top ATHEA. I don't think you can possibly expect thetop eight and Thee Goin, but if you have a deck, that's that weird! Youknow because I think, like you look back and I saw I saw a screenshothunter said to somebody. I think it was like huntred a pedro and he's like heyman. I think I have the best DEC and format. You know what I mean and it'slike. He ends up winning. You know yeah, but maybe that's razy. Well, Idon't know, but just to say that somebody thoughtthey had a good deck. Surely surely, if you're going to fly, youknow to him? Well maybe he drove- I don't know I guess Mexico's prettyclose to Texas. But if you're going to go to tech, youknow if you're going to go to do et is massive. Well, that's a good point to,but if you're going to go to a different country, I feel like you'regoing to bring your a game. Yeah I mean it's just like it's such A. I don't want to say it's like a higrolldeck, the kind of like lives in that realm right, where there's like a lotof pieces that u need to hit and when they all work, it's so insane yeah. Butif they don't, then it's gets kind of rough or like the dark. Matchups can bea kind of rough. If you don't get your weakness policy is at the right timesif they blower them ye h. So yeah I mean it's definitely cool,though it's super sick deck and definitely one that can kind of beanything ist by virtue of it's like handlock kind of strategy. So that'spretty awesome yeah. Besides that, though, I don't thinkthere were like too many like huge surprises, I was not surprised to seedark, be so heavily played and n. We actually talked about dark a lot leading into Dallas and howmuch it would be played and whether or not people would be scared off of it orif the best players would play it looked like a lot of great players areplaying dark actually, and that was another big whiff, mostly on my part,where I kind of said yes, Turbo dark will be played, but I just felt thatthe top players would have some other choice, but that was where I kind of Ithink that was probably the biggest whiff and my predictions for theweekend. Just that we did see pretty much. All of the you know the top player testing groupthat former DDG testing group play dark, and that was definitely not something Iwas thinking would happen yeah. I wasn't sure that theyspecifically had play dark, but I definitely wasn't surprised to see itin the numbers that it saw and with the general player Skillpool that it saw, but I witd them surprising thing to mewas how little of a real conversion it had like a lot of people are able tomake Dhey do with it, but not a lot. We're able to do a lot in the two ith.It so sure I don't think anymade top eight. There are not a ton and topsixteen and it you know down from there like you know it's obviously still anachievement, but it's not the kind of stuff that you know you're slammingonto your resume right away either so it that was just a little odd to me. Iguess, because I didn't feel like dark, had terrible matchups either againstany of the decks. That really did. Well, it's just P. I don't know if it wasjust like a little too inconsistent or too many pieces need to come togetherto make your matchups work, but it definitely got a little shut out at theend there, which is usually symptomatic of a of not being as good of a deck, asmaybe originally thought sure sure. That's a good analysis. I think we werepretty correct in our in our assessment of saying that, like guardion would begood. Obviously you had two in top eight and one made it all the way tothe finals. We are also very correct: Ind saying that stall would be a goodplay and there was just a ton of stall in varietys such a shocklock in the purestall archetypes of John Mastai in things like dolls with the Reggie Rock, and youknow different walls, you know Nijaboy or whatever. That is what's that, a lotof like doll based Staldeck Yeah Yeah.

So I think that was that was reallycool. T to see we kind of knew. Okay, stall is probably just good, but you know at least for me- I just not that I didn't want to put in thetime I maybe didn't have the time or was already kind of. I was already kindof at that point on another deck you know is really heavily leaning towardsmetuand, just trying to figure out those matchups but yeah. It was just interesting tosee that Mutu was a good call for the event for sure. Welcome, tricky jammersmutue was a good call for the event. That's you know. Obviously the deck Iended up going with, but it would have had two top eights, if not for adisqualification by one of the players or wait, it would have had one topic,if not for a disqualification. In any case, it would have had pretty goodrepresentation in the top EGH sparring disqualification that we saw,I think meto was a was a salid choice, had answers to a lot of the Meta game,but had about the conversion rate that I think you would expect from it. Yahonatly thank you for the Su once again someonharflexto one pack, anything else. Anything else that youyou were seeing from the from the streams from the Nallis regional honestly, I feel like. Besides theTeinasham deck, there wasn't anything like hugely surprising, but it wasreally fun to watch. I wish that Pokemon had streamed more of it thanthey did. I did appreciate the the quality thatwent into the pokemon streams and they clearly had put effort into the roundsthat they did stream, but it was unfortunate that we only got a couplerounds day, one and the only the top eight onwards in day to made it hard toreally track the storylines and and get a feel forow. The tournament actuallywas in the ground when you're, because you're getting still limitedperspective, Sur what it looked like sure. You know what round around onethrough three look so different than round seven, eight, nine right just tostart with, and that also looks huguly different than you know, top e Toug,four tough, two, it's just like. I wish I got to see some of those in betweenphases as the tournaments evolving and like the better players, are rising upand and like win in an Inscenario kind of thing. I know those are like justsome of the most intense matches, sure I have top eight, but a lot of those. You know last roundkind of almost feels like a winter. Take all scenario. Those are just some of themost exciting right. So like yeah, I don't know, I don't know ifthere's like a great answer there or like a catchallsolution to to fix that or it's just limitation ofpokmons resources, and they h Y, just simply can't devote the people for RECin TCD. At the same time, I'm hoping that it was just like part of thistransitional phase and we get to see like more awesome, Hocemon Streans,because definitely it was a top notch production when it was rils right,right, yeah. I think I think a lot of people would agree. I mean we're justhoping that the like you said that they will have a dedicated tcg stream, aswell as the dedicated VGC stream, that they will give both equal and fullrepresentation. Just I think they have just this golden opportunity here, particularly with VGC, but I thinkthere's should be some sort of trickled down effect with sword and shield. Ijust Tak pokemons in a really good place, and I feel, as do most of theplayer base, that they should try to milk that, for all it's worth so goodthoughts there. Moving on to the you know, we kind of gave an overview ofthe top decks in Dallas. Let's apply that now to sord and shield just anover arching view of sort and shield...

...water, like your top, maybe give methree cards or five cards that you're really looking forward to and we'll ask about. You know in a secondjust how they kind of shape them at a game and what you expect the Metaganeto be like heading into Coentsville yeah. I mean if I had to pick fivecards from the set. It would include a couple of trainers for sure and to knowsurprise, Professor Magnolia or professor's research, as it's called inthe states. Yeah would be one of those I mean, especially in a format with no vsseekers and and very limited supporter pool. Tostart with being able to get that discard, draw seven is so valuable andit makes texs feel so much smoother in a way that they didn't feel when youhad to rely on hard Drali Lily plus Cynthia yeah t a lot better. I mean thesupporters is great. It's a good card, so I'm excited to see that kind ofeffect return into the metagame. Additionally, I think you know the obvious pick of pokemonthat ars going to be good will be Zacion or Zacian. I don't know exactlythe correct pronunciation is a Shiin thet sore dog will be Bunoogona. In myopinion, it's a it's just a generally good card. I could see it definitelyseeing play outside of metal decks just because that ability is really goodgoing first or on turns or not attacting, but even besides that it'sobviously good in metal, Dek, it' jues, a lot of damage for fairly low energycause sure, and it only gives up two prizes, which is probably the mostappealing aspect of it. I was just going to say: that's, that's probablythe most busted it does this damage that can one shot most anything and yetstill only gives up two prizes after having I don't know what a year and ahalf two years being dominated by these tag, team Pokemon that give up threeprizes, I'm just starting to like kind of feel the freshness already of this.This new format, where we're going back, reverting back to two prize attackersand two prize knockouts, so it feels pretty good there give me some other, give me some othercards and then, after you're finish, there gimme talk tot me a little bitabout the expanded format with those cards and what you think changes or ifanything, changes going into the next tournament yeah. So some other cards that catch myeye, preliminarily in standard format, I think there's some potential withThemorpico I like Morpico alot as a Pokmon as well mare, pkob. So the ideaof being able to like pivot around sounds really cool. To me. I thinkMarny is a great pardond standard. I don't think it'll translate to expandit as much but having it's ve, much harder,destruption effect, because you guarantee that your opponent won't seethe cards unless they have a thin deck that they just had o right. That'spretty interesting it. It allows you to Disru tobalso drawing, but in a waythat you consistently draw a lot of cars hot having to play crappy stuff,like judge, so I'm excited for that it sounds pretty cool and I think just aslike a lot of generally interesting stuff, I think frostmoth has a lot ofpotential as an archetype, especially long term as we get more water cards towork with that's just kind of how it works with stuff. Like you know,Blasttoyce and frosmoth, the more cards are Alreo excellerit onto the better.The card gets over time. So you know blast toys is probably t e strongast.It's ever been it's just so the other ex are so much stronger. At this point,the blast la is kind of fallen off yeah right, but make mo no mistake. Wa Acehas the best pool of things to accelerate to that's ever had no doubtyeah I'mi think froshmoth will kind of get in that same place for like moreWater v cards or maybe a better vmax attacker, then lapers vmax comes outand all of a sudden, it's just ridiculous right and also randomlyexcited for air. Balloon me to yeah. I...

...was just going to say that you know like Arballoon is, might aswell be potstown in so many gades sure yeah yeah, you know if you're pokenabout has three plus retreat. It doesn't deserve to retreat for tr inthe first O. You know it didn't earn it lose. Some weight Los Don is ridiculously broken. YeahYeah routreat you don't get to Retrit for free man. That's too that's toomuch. That's I think air balloon kind of hits is a little bit closer to whereit should be Sur. Yeah yeah, no, it's cool cool. I like Aur, balloon a lotfor sure good stuff, all right. Well, let's! Sothose are a lot of cards that you t you spoke about. They all kind of have moreimpact in the standard format. I would say: We've been just talking about the.I think the cards that will make the most impact will make the most impactin the standard format. Just because, like you said earlier, we've had suchpitiful options for draw for consistency ever since you knownestball rotated ever since right, quickball being one that I didn't evenmention, as obviously going completely change the game right exactly and don't even think much needsto be said about it sure sure so, with with the reintroduction of a pseudonesball. With with you know, the intoduction, the reintroduction of adiscard draw seven, it's going to be way way better than it's been in termsof feeling like you're playing a deck that can draw through enough cards in agame, but those don't really apply that well into the expanded format. Wealready have discard dros seven. We already have arguably better ball search. We haveyou know: frostmoth is obsolete in a in a way and expanded, because we alreadyhave blasttoys. So are there any cards that you're looking at from sword and shield that that kind ofport over a little bit better to expand it than they would to standard yeah? I mean the unfortunate thing is that the baseset of a lot of sets doesn't typically have the strongest cars that the setthe block will eventually have sure. Like really realistically son, an Moon didn't have a wot once toSu. Joui became less viable, but still nevertheless, like. I think I think frostmot might actually havesome potential as like sort of more consistent evolution based kind of onecrize attacker waterdeck thing I don't know, I feel like there's some sort ofpotential there just for the fact that you don't have to use the supporter toget out your energy acceleration right, but you can also be lot harder in intolike one prizers and you know, because you can allike Selarain the water typesto start with, so you can go with like all watertype one prize and get likeactilleries and play Brooklet hills and get all sorts of like consistency, kindof stuff going. So there could be something there. I don't know just likea random thought. Cinchino is probably the car that'll have the most impact inexpanded alongside yeah relax vmax. You know both kind of both of us together kind of make thisrandomly Zoric X, like Ork ASPETEC, O that yeah does a lot of damage with abunch of pokemon on the board yeah, but Sincino in general seems like itcould be a great option in disruptive decks that don't need to ride aspeeding stuff for knockout sure sure I mean well. We kind of saw thatwith but yeah incino draws the same. Ount of cards, Love Ball, searchablewe'e known a searchable one prize yeah. So I think that is the single mostpowerful, cart and expanded from sort an shield yeah. I would agree there. Wekind of saw there with you know towards the end of of what was that Portland orwhatever, when people were trying to play the pigioto control.

So I think it's just that's just betterpidgy inexpanded right, since she knows just the better pitgy for that deck. Soyou know we lost a lot of control things with that. Most recent rotationore band list, who knows they might be unbanning things- there have beenlittle hints that they might unband things due to the turn. One supporterrule change, yeah they're, definitely making some little nudges there, whichis going to be huge. I mean I would not be shocked to see something like wallycome back. That just makes a lot of sense. HEXMANIAC, I think, still is toobroken to Onban, but something like Wali, maybe even force of giant plants,although that, like wall, he just Ada what like almost filled with disgust,what something like Wallyi just Wolly, Idon't know man, I never okay, so I everwally it's just like just satisfyed.Well, I feel like you're, either you're, either a tree lover or a tree hateryou're, not like lukewarm on trees. You know you're, not lukewarm ontrevenentright. So for me, I kind of hate it not GOINGTA lie so wally. Just it brings back theserepressed memories y wow, wow yeah. I EAN, I think, they're mostlyreferring to Wali. I I there was like another supporterthat came to mine, but all these definitely the most obvious shows suresure I mean you could I' potentially unbanned Maxi's. I know that wouldprobably be incorrect to do, but you, what's that, that's fine, you can leavemaxis for sure, leave maxy's band or on band I leave it band, leave a ban allright, I'm just saying, though, if there's no potential to supporter oritem lock on the first turn. Potentially that could you know I couldsee how they would say: Hey we maybe could unban, obviously that Combo withthe Omastar and or Kaboo tops is pretty strong and expanded. Hence the banning, but yeah you're saying here, SenchinoSnorlak, maybe could be a viable option. Are there any decks current decks thatget like buffs from the from Sord and Shield Basit? Not a ton and mediately comes to mindlike I guess the Keldov could see some playand like plastoy stecks, but last toy lex. Don't really need any differentattackers than they already have right. I mean Chicino could be slaughteredinto stuff. That needs like a little extra drama place. One prizers ather than that. I don't think a tonimmediately comes to mind for existing decks that get buffed try. I just don'tfeel like itill, be a huge, huge impact from sword, sceld on the expandedformat, at least EA, something that's obvious. Isn't there yeah? I could. Icould see something like cramarant being somehow playable, maybe yeah inan energy acceleration deck to like do snipes or something, but you know other than that. I I don'tsee anything getting a real big buff from the current cards. I mean youcould see something like and I've been thinking about. This is like, on thefirst turn in expanded. You want to make sure that, if you're playing aturbo deck, something like Turbo dark that you have as much access to your pokemon is possible, and so Ithink something like quickball could make its way into turbo dark decks andlike a two, maybe even a three count to just ensure that you have that turn oneTedenne that turnd one shamean. You know so you play your full ccount ofultra balls and then you supplement that, with a few more a few more of the quick balls that thatwas something I was thinking about, the biggest deck that I think will see justa ton of Ar that I'm most excited to try out. I don't know if it'll see alot of play, but is Zation. I think that deck is great and standard, butalso should be pretty good and expanded...

...for almost the same exect reasons. Thatis very good and standard. O We've seen that a lot recently where these decksthat are good and standard are being ported over with minimal or justobvious changes. I'm thinking about guardoorromatist and therare rocky chopspecifically, and so I think, sation. You know people have been testing in instandard. It's looking to be one of the Tiar one decks, maybe an stor deck. Ithink that lends itself very well considering its two prizes has justmassive damage output potential. I think it just por ports over very wellinto expanded right and you do get XS to Maxlixer aswell. Alongside your metal saucers to consistently get that sucker powered upand swinging for twue and thirty yeah, the only problem I have is you knowit's capped at like O and Sixty Max and well other mods to like it a littlehigher but yeah like two s, the immediate Max with achoice band sure. So it's just like a little bit low to be stuck at. Although that mightthat might be enough, I don't know Youko dark. You only give ut two prizes,so I mean that might be. I might be great in the end. Actually I don't know,I guess it's something that would require s in testing yeah. Obviously,if yo like H, partner as well sure ther sure I mean it's definitely my orsright right, I think you could get away with that and standard of, likeliterally just playing those four but in expanded yeah. You needsomething to supplement something to give you just a little bit of of. I don't know M. I guess a little bitmore Oom for a little bit of. Maybe what am I trying to say? Give you alittle bit of disruption or something something extra something extra, somespice its Prin e Song, Aor Nto like do you want to play damage supplementingCokomon like Lidemie and Orgalarian proserker, like maybe play a bunch ofboth and skyfields and just like just go an see how much o like actuallyhilarious, th or maybe you play like a moredisruptive KINDOF strategy with something like garbador and you knowjust play one of those classic like consistent, Thrugee Energy, attacker,plus garbageor kind of TEX right, which I've literally been a thing, sintgarbagoris print. I know it's crazy, it's just the big boys, you just slapthem with garb and you got a deck. I mean it's like literally like. If you want to start playing Pokimon inexpanded, I feel like everybody'sgone through that phase, wher they've played that style, deck, garbade orplus. You know it's just it's so strong. So we'll see how that shakes out.Another card that I just want to mention for me personally and expandedit's a disruption supporter, but the TMYEL I don't know grunt team, Mel Fanor whatever it is where it just makes your opponent, pickup and energy. Imean I think that should see some type of play. I like it in the fact that itdoesn't that it doesn't need to and doesn't necessitate adiscard right. So it's not like Plumaria, where you have te discard andit doesn't automatically only work on special energy, but it still has theyou know: thethethe effect, of removing anopponents attachment for their turn, which, for some decks is really all youneed preventing them from attaching those two energies, I'm thinking of adeck like Mutu, where it's aside from using GERACI's Attak first attack it'shard to accelerate multiple energies on to it in a turn, and so just being ableto return that energy to their hand, can you know can do wonders for for whatyou're able to do in terms of disruption. I think that card shouldsee some play, maybe just in staldecks, but I like that Ra a lot.

So othe this thing, at'll impactexpanded the most and sorry for terrupting you a little bit would benow gointo. You first turn rule like yeah. You know that' that feems moreimpactful than all the sort of Yel set cards combined, yeah absolutely. Arethere any? Are there any archetypes that you think completelydie out because of the first turn rule I think about archies Archie's,probably dead, I'm not saying for sure, probably dead. We have a very viablereplacement in frostmoth that you can just evolve manually, and we talkedabout that a little bit earlier, any other archetypes that you just seebecome unviable because of the turnwon supporter rule. I think archies is probably the onethat is the most immediately obviously unviable. I think there are some cardsand decks that actually kind of benefit from it in a weird way, because theycan go second and like take advantage of disruptive strategies. So I think,like egg row is a deck that really benefits now from being able to gosecond and just get item lock up, and so now your oppony couldn't playsupport their first turm and can't play items the rest of the game that seems kind of silly, and similarly we had Ola fi man, caut andchat. Like you go second and hse horror, House Gx, your ponant has now not playefor to their first turn and can't play any pars in their hand. Their secondturn, and so you you just get like a ridiculous amount of time to dowhatever you want with them. Yeah- and you know it's just scary man, there'slike crazy stuff going on yeah. I think archies, the deck that that'sgoing to struggle the most because you basically get in this ear situation.where, if you lose the coin flip, your point will choose to go second and youlose and then you win the coins. Let and youdon't get it out half the time, so you lose seventy five percent of your gamesoffer, it, yes seems, seems bad se Lisin seventy five offera and then having to play that lasttwenty five percent of games out for a chance to win what you'll probably loseanyway yeah dude. What the Darg becomes like a ten percent win right dat, it seems horrible that seems R yeah. Ithink plenty of other days feel like power through it at least a little mitright, but that is is really unfortunate for right right. Itjustit's not looking good for our hero. That's for sure Jason Jason says here, don't forget. Wehave the meout that can search out the pesercer, so you don't even need toinclude any evolution search cards, so I do want to bring that up, and I don'tknow if you know about this card Riley, but there's a perserker that arexcuseme o rgalarian mouth that's has an evolutionary, roar ability. It saysonce for turn, you may discard two cards from your hand. If you do searchyour deck for a Galarian, perserker reveal it and put it in your hand. So,theoretically you play that in an Expande deck with execute, and then youjust get down your for or three or whatever you gou done yourmap mathis and involved them for free with the eggs. I don't know if that meouth is out yetI know it was part of he goiss. It is out. I don't think it is yeah. I don'tbelieve it's out, so I don't know when that strategy will work. I believe itwas a Japanese like mini set that was included in one of their. You know Zatian Zamazenta boxes, but I don'tbelieve we have that when we do get that, though, look for that card to youknow really buff any of the metal type decks an Exman, I'm excited for metalto make it come back, potentially potentially so moving onhere. That was a good cursory overview of the expanded format. We kind oftouch on some of the top DECS that we...

...think are going to be buffed by thesword and shield cards and rule change. Moving over to standard now, we've done we've seen a lot morecontent created about the standard, sord and shield format. I thinkprimarily of Andrew's tricky jym channel, but certainly there have beenothers. What are some of the decks that you're seeing emerging as seriouscontenders? As you know, Tiar one dex in the standard format- I think pegram- is an obvious topcontender in this format. It has some matchups amonst other top decks that itmight struggle with, but kind of can really take down a lot of these otherdecks. So you know frostmoth decks Muse to decks that don't play the Malamar. A lot of these like slower decks, Pekground can just run over them yep and that's really strong. The decks reallyfast. Now quickball was the exact card. I think paperon was looking for toreally just push it over and I guess topic Okovi as well, but that feelsalmost unimportant compared to quick ball, yeah being able to search out theV or t storry, the cocaprism, while also discarding a card. So you knowthat freshest energy card hitting the discard pile yeah. You know it can't beb an addition. You can get out to ratons more consistently it just itseems crazy man yeah, that seems Goo good, seems good, any other any otherBexat, my favorite deck right now yeah is going to be ATP with Sacian. Okay, I think tha deck just has a lot of likereally strong options available to it, because you have the Gxtech on your ATP.Get Your Zacan ou your doing a lot of damage. You Got Maton Lonest, likeswitches, acand, the both reset the attack and to heal yea. You can usefrying pans, you can do all sorts of like cool, crazy stuff and it thatseems really strong to me as well. That's probably the deck I want to playthe most, especially because I'm really really fond of Asan's ability, yeah oeven outside the first turn like you,can just use it to set up multiple threats in ways that you wouldn'texpect it's just a great card. It's fantastic card yeah, and it really. Itreally promotes going ahead right, because if your opponent reset stamps you andthey're significantly significantly behind, you can spend a turn or twojust drawing Threeh your accelerating to your bench of which are both great.You know, Thefac you get to keep the cards. I sou broken a get the Keypu it would be. It wouldbe a pretty good ability if it was even just one or the other, but the factthat it like could be both or has the potential to be both is just so strongyeah on a basic coston on a basic yeah on a bate not to be oversa on a basicwith two hundred and twenty health that can one shot. You know most of theformat, that's that's wild yeah, so the one other deck that I think's gettingsome fair heype that I still have my own questions about is Malimarm Youtoand I to me I'm a little confused whypeople didn't come to this deck sooner like in standard, because it doesn't, Imean, obviously it's better in sort and shield. Just because you have professor's research, you have Marni,you have quick ball, which are all great for the Deck Air Balloon. Also great, but still it'slike the attacker line is all stuff. That's existed before right and I guesswe did see some success, the very tale, this format in the regional in Brazil. I think it was last week and they, the Mali Ar Musdac, actually made thefinals. So I mean, I guess the idea as potential. I want to see it a littlebit more before I pass judgment on it. I think really comes down to TrevnalArbying, a good card sure. Then it does fee like you to actually being theARCHEDEP. It's more like temnar and...

Gengar. Mimiccou are really strongtogether, sell that an expanded as well and Malimaris. What makes it work andstandard. So I think nou to is just a cog in the machine that is trevnor andYangar mmke like didn't want to be here, but the mob of Trevnor and GangarmiMiccu is just like caught in enslaved. The MUTU I mean Muto is no slouch whenit comes to enslavement, yeah for sure. Over seen the firstpokemonthere remaking it, it was so good tthey're doing it again. Yeah Rit and I'M gonna cry I'd SwearRiley, I'm going to cry just as hard this time. I don't think I'll cry ashard to be honest really, but if you brow, if you see it withyour boys, you might cry that's true. Well, I'm kind of always just likestopping around the boys overwhelmed with hemotion fair enough, but I think those are my top threedecks right now. Those are the ones H. I would look at first, the ones that Iwould try and Gess my hands on start testing wit SAR testing against,because they're almost certainly going to be the ost popular. Yes- and I just think doy'll also sound,like a lot of fun too sure couldn't agree more with your top decks.Are there any like t or two or three decks that you want to put some timeinto, but maybe don't know where to begin or justyou know, Haveit, you know put together any decklist because they're all inyour brain, because you don't have the physical cards. One thing that comes tomind for me is just grass I have a Vineograftt, I have a feeling.Rollaboom is going to be good. I just really like the effect, and I think youprobably just play it with the aloen executor line, a Loylan exector justwith rollet or whatever the tag team is just a big beefy boy, even though hatit is Wno. I just it's a lot of syllables to say Rawlett and alolanexecutor, it's just like what nine bls or something well, you said a lolliedexecutor with his you know, with this partner Ralit or whatever. That's somany more fol MES. Okay, fair enough, my tiny pea braincan't handle both pokeimon being on a single card, but anyway, I think that I think that that card repaired with Rillaboom hassome potential to be good. We kind of saw. I say we, I don't know if you've seenthis, but I saw some like grass tecks performing decently. Well, towards theend of the format I mean people were not that they were winning cups, butcertainly topping with with you know, grass of various varieties, consideringthe decline of fire, and I think fire just still stays pretty poopy exceptfor Musu. I think he, the first turn. Rule change really hurts that instandard anything like abilities, ARD, and so you know maybe there's potentialagain for grass, especially now with this this amazing accelerator thatgrass really hasn't had yeah. I wish iy had a Serola sure you know another deck that chat jusreminded me of that. I also think is a top contender is baby blons with LikyEgg. Thank you chat, having Brady Bottner, and I have talkedabout this alive, but lucky egg just pushes that deck so far, it's actuallyridiculous, because what, when you think of baby blownds and like itsweakness as a deck yeah, you think about reset stamp and having difficultyconsistently trading yeah. You know when at least when you're, not playingMalamar right, like Malamark, can trade in the baby of stuffe on at leastevenly, whereas these three prize tag...

...team decks. Two Prize Gx, DEX and VDXare trying to do like well. I hope that the baby blown doesn't get an attackoff this turn Fori Knko, yeah and for for gx tag team Dek they'relike well. I hope you don't get a knockout for this turn and the nextturn right and probably one more turn after that right, so recept stamp is the key there. Butthen, if you're playing lucky egg, you have to knock out the guy eventuallythere's no real tour movel. Besides dangerous drill which people were playing just draws,the seven yes sa whatwhat, then I guess you play lies in your lives. I don't seems crazy, yeah for sure for sure.Yeah blonds should be very good with the lucky egg. I think that's a that'sa cute card for that. For that archetype, I would imagine that that that baby blondsteck is probably thebest deck to play. Lucky egg, as I feel like it'll, be the only or maybe one ofthe only one prize, non evolution, style dex. So look forthe lucky egg to make an impact in that deck. Any other kind of rogue ideasthat you have. We have one question here in the chats about obstagoon sable.I any thoughts on that any thoughts on kind of your own concoctions that you're thinking ofbringing to light yeah. I I don't like that as much US CAS, Idon't know, F, there's a way to really get it up and going in the way you needto this. Parmat looks to be pretty fast so and getting an offstagoo now takesthree turns or two with e Rare Candy, even that at still like you het to findyou rare candies bit this weird obsagin line- and you have to manually attachthese sabiliyes twice yeah so just seems like a tall order to me to get running, and this is anotherdeck that brain I've talked about, because he is really fond of this deck,and I always ask him, like you know Ho. How are you getting this to work like?What is your Wayou Ock magiclike? I likeoon't make an sensee. I never haveit so yeah right right, it is something ever had. I have never obtained that so whatever it is, you might have it. Idon't so give me another alternative. TDOESN'T, usually ha, that's funny cool all right. Well, I think that is agood cursory overview of the standard format. WEL WE'LL keep as we learn newthings as we try new things. As we see new things, we will keep expanding thatlist because we don't go live with sword and shield for another. What twoweeks is that correct yeah? Well, be that second, second wee secon weekryeah okay, so we sell H, ve another couple weeks here to Toste on SwordShield Pans: Do we Shal Onsto? We shall so we'll open up the floor, guys to anyquestions from the chat. At this point we want to finish this cast talkingabout our year that we've had, as you guys know, the tag team podcast hasbeen together for a year. This we're goingto celebrate today January Twenty Ninh, two thousand and twenty as our one yearanniversary. Now whether we began you know two weeks ago, a year ago, I youknow whatever whatever we're celebrating in today and that's allthat matters so we're pretty close to exactly a year. If it's not exact yeah,I mean you know patch yourself. On the back, I mean we didn't like count thedays you know, but thank goodness that Julius Caesar put in place a calendarthat makes total sense that is accurate...

...to within a quarter of a day that we can rely on to colnection litlebit more than a quarter of a day or like lashs a quarter. Well, it's a quarter of aday per year, approximately well axtuall every a hundred years. Youdon't have a leap: Beer, Oh really yeah. So the year like two thousand nineteehundred etceter, that's fun, that's fun! That's kind of cool! I didn't know thatyeah! I just. I know that this year is a leap eer. It is so we get an extra day this year,which is kind of cool. I don't know how I'm going to spend it yet bt. I got some plans. I got some plans. Yougot like your leap, Yeer party plan, yeah yeah, I mean I got some thoughts.You know you know me. I always got some thoughts. It's on a Saturday man, you cancelebrate. That's I'm saying you trying to come over. You know I'm always trying to just lay rightxact Osville. What's that the twenty nine? Oh, thetwenty ninth is Collinsville Yeah Dang you hit to see it. Are you going to go to confieldonrightTe Twety, nine, I'm not going to go. I don't think. Oh well, that's a Dang!Shame it sure is. It sure is but looking back here through chats. Thank you guys all for lurking and wehave a few people that that mentioned that they are just lorking. We are soappreciative of your viewership. Really really really just appreciate you guysbeing here. Thank you for the for the viewership Alex G says why not playdelmie in expanded with Zasshan over something like we were a little bittalking about the Galarian Perzirker Delmiis, absolutely an option Alex ButiTal. I was talking about them both though Ik sure sure you know Imentioned Dow, my spirst but I'n. like if you really want to swing for thefences, my Bot Gooi four million day yeah right Raley, do you like ability, baby,blownds or Greens, baby bloncs, for I assume current standard right. I thinkGreens is probably more consistent by a fair margin. But what I like aboutaability is it can play Pekarom or I t can play mew to help with Pekerum, because p Groum coanactually get pretty scary. If they a just like do an early stamp plus fulwas to active right. That's really tough for a green lounsteck to dealwith, because it's hard to get more than two things on board at tha time,two attackers on board yeah, whereas like a ability deck, not onlywhat have a more wide bench in general, but it'll have access to mew withoutsacrificing its core engine. Sure absolutely absolutely good points there. So yeah.If you're, if your metagame is very mu to centric or if there's a threat ofMoutu, then you know that might decide your deck choice there, Personal Wato say Ron ar p. What did Isay you said me to Oh yeah, no Pekaron! That's what I meant to say so, ifyou're, if your medagame has a lot of Mu Tu that might decide the deck thatyou choose, because maybe you have to play mea for that metagame, going back to the year interview, Rileywe've had some significant personal accomplishments. You know, I think I think we all know what those are, butyou know it's been good to have this kind of soundboard for ideas, and I know for mepersonally, I've gotten more just I don't know, speaking aboutmetagames and speaking about deck ideas...

...and choices, and things like that hasreally helped shape me as a player. So that's been great in terms ofaccomplishments for the cast. What do you think of have been some ofour some of our best things? Looking back in the year? What are some of thethings that you look back and you're really proud of that we've done thisyear. I mean there's plenty of things. Ithink really positive, that came out of the podcast and, just generally ourpartnership and working together I mean obviously we've we' both gottenour fair share of achievements under our belt, in just the game itself. Inthe past year, with my top four at Consville, your original championshipwin, and I also got a you know- a little sneaky top thirty two worlds inthere as well. Snaky yeah, you just snock that right in there, so you know we brought home some gloryfor the cast, which is felt really good. It feels really statisfying like cometogether as a team and be able t to have those accomplishments under ourbelt. But even besides that, I think the thing that sticks out to me, themost is is when I go to evants and peoplecome out to me. Specifically, I think of Portland.There are a couple people that I met. While I was there who told me how muchof a positive impact the podcast had on them and they're e, not only theirexperience and growth as a player, but just generally they enjoyed it. Theyliked the way we talked the Bancer we had, and so that's something Ipersonally I love taking that kind of stuff home and like i'me, always quickto tell you like. Oh you know, I met someone so nice and they said somethingabout our podcast and ig thought. That was really awesome and I've actuallyreceived really warm welcomes. It's made her easier to transition NTO, mylocal community, because they they might listen to some O my content or befamiliar with with me, either through my achievements or through my content,and it's made that the whole process of moving easier. It's made me feel moreconnected with my friends back home because you know I'm basicallyfacetiming with one of my friends back home for at least an hour every weekyou know feels really good. Is there anything that, like jumps outto you, is something that we've achieved or been able t to get donethrough the podcast? Well, I think for me and it's something that just I am. Ihave a peclivity to be lazy. I have a proclivity to be. You know to push things off to e to, to,I don't know, ' to delay doing anything. You know I mean I mean it could beanything you know and that's just that', just my nature and I have to fightagainst that daily. I had to fight against thatyearly, but doing this cast together. I meanit's really been kind of this one thing every week that I know that I do atthis time, and just the consistency of that is is huge for me and I think, ishuge for the cast in the sense that you see other people. You know- andthis is not again I's not like bashing anyone, but you see just other peoplemake either podcast or they make you know content or they try to stream, oryou know xyandz. They do something and then, through whatever reason be it youknow, laziness, be it personal things that come up be it you know alack of interest to be at you know some some emergency or whatever it is. Theyfall off that wagon and I think that this cast is kind of reinvigorated meand help me in like other areas of my life to say: okay, you're doing thisvery consistently. I think you can do this other thing very consistently, andso that's like a personal takeaway from this, that no, I actually, I I feellike I can relate to that pretty deeply as well yeah. You know this is the at I'm. Definitely one whowill cancel plan who will like just sit...

...at home and do nothing very happily,and it's been nice because it keeps you accountable as well right like we're, even if we both have that tendencywe're both counting on each other to be there and that's what that's upforce tome to do it right. Sometimes, sometimes it's really hard for me just to just to force myself to do something,but I'm like well, you know I cant Latw Down Right, nowright I'll jump on andthen I have a great time every time I do it right and it it's forced me tolike come out of my shell a little bit like I I'll. More I'm more willing to likejust jump out of my comfort zone and less likely to to cancel things when I,like, I got invited to some random boardgame nights and ill just go nobut.Even then it's like the regiment of it has made regimenting my life overalleasier. You know, I know I'm going to podcast on Wednesday, so I work outMonday, Tuesday and Thursday Friday and it's kind of like built around my pot,the Hi and it's helped keep me CONSISTEDT andL ihave. My life have structure and Ifeel Ike in Atell, it's kind of weird. So if you, if youwere listening to this cast at home and Riley Talke directly to the viewers, what what would you tell somebody that wantsto do something like maybe something likewhat we're doing or just creating content for Pokemot tcg or just doingsomething? Do you have any any inspirational, like paragraph Soliloquythat you want to give to somebody? Yeah I'd be apt to to share somethoughts, and I would also invite you to do the same once I'm finished. I think I think. Ultimately, anyone hasthe potential to make something great, whether that be content, or you knowsome art or really whatever you're interested in be Greatad POKEMON. It'sit's all about investing into it being happy what you're doing and and channeling that passion right. Sothere have been plenty of times when I've wanted to like trinew things orlearn new things and I've gotten discouraged or not wanted to put thework in, and I end up dustsatisfied with the product and leave it out todry. Basically, I tried to learn guitar several times I didn't Hav learningUcalaly a guitar always like as hate me on the flip side, though, like I've also tried to make content allsorts of times, and it was never really working out, but then having that accountability that comeswith doing the PODCAST, I've felt really satisfied with how it's comingtogether, because of we put so much time into it. We get to brainstormevery week. We get to feel good about what we're doing and we get tocontribute, and I think the thing that makes that work is I'm passionate aboutit. I wanted to create something that gives back to the Pokmon community fora long time now and that passion gets channel and I think that's theimportant part is you can't just be passionate. You have to be willing tolike channel that passion, yeah and move it in a productive way, instead ofkeeping it inside of you EAH. So it's ultimately the message I'm getting atis find the thing that gets you excited and gets you passionate and even thoughit won't always be exciting it might, there are going to be boring parts ofexciting things. It just find that thing that excites you and work on thatthing sure this might not be the B single best podcast in all of historyor in the world, but I something that's fun and I and I enjoy making it and ithas had a positive impact on my life and I hope it has on some ofyours soyeah absolutely I mean I would. I would totally agree with everything that yousaid. For me, it's just been that discipline that'sbeen huge. Discipline is just like a muscle, just like any other muscle.It's just like any other attribute any other personality, trait that you needto work on and you need to hone and you need to...

...just just you know, take it to the gymevery week you know, and so that's that's what we've been able to do.That's what I've been able to do through this podcast is just work onthe discipline aspect of it and, like you said there will be boringtimes, ind anything that you do be at work, be it art be at play, be it you know anythinganything and so having that discipline to push through is what separates good from great and then even more solike great from legends, and I'm not saying that were legends, I'm not evensaying that we're great- and I am not even saying that we are good, but the level of discipline that you haveis how you attain great results, and so that's been that's been amazing throughthis podcast, just developing flexing that discipline muscle has been huge, so that was that was great, yeah personalaccomplishments. Anything for the vision of the cast rily moving forward,the vision of the podcast, anything that you want to see heading into this. Next I mean, Ipresume Yeure, I mean for me yeah the next year. I have no intention of ofquitting, but anything that you see for moving ahead into the future. Thatyou'd like to share yeah an I've kind of alluded to thisbefore I've been really satisfied, and I still am with the place that we'vegotten to as far as like, I think the quality is good. You know we can honeout things here and there and we're acutely aware of that, probably morethan anyone else, but I like the quality thet content, ifnothing else like yeah things little things here and there can continue tobe improved. What I want to continue to work on improve, even just like small personal things,like my own speaking ability and making sure that things stave, and I thinkactually I've done a great job at growing at this, but I want to continueto grow out it and improve and get better. But, besides that, I want totake it in more creative directions as well. I think we've set up a reallystrong base for ourselves and I'd love to use that base to build up ininteresting directions. So maybe that means I mean it can mean all sorts ofthings. It could mean interviewing more people and having more bancer going andtaking advantage of the report that we've built up to interact with otherpeople in a meaningful way. That is more than just like champion interviews, or it could be something like we justpursue more creative projects and more, not necessarily outside the podcast,but like even within the podcast, like morecreative episodes that like channel that energy and and continue to make itinteresting and unique, and something that stands out that you want to keepcoming back to and I've molled this over. Quite a lot. I've put a lot oflike thought and ideas and dw, and I have found ideas back more than once,more than twice even I'll, say perhaps more than three times. I don'twant to get crazy, though, and at'. So I don't know exactly what Thatilook like, but I I do want to take it in like some more creative angles andfind more approaches that make it interesting not just to me, but assomeone who would listen to it and be engaged and want to listen to more ofthat kind of thing. Sure Yeah, I think that's great yeah. I mean there arelittle minor tweiks that I want to make, but I think just the biggest thing,especially in this last, like latder half of the of the year, maybe even th,latter third of the years, just increasing the the engagement acrossall platforms, and I think specifically, of twitter and twitch here, but justincreasing the engagement, because we want to hear from the viewers we wantto hear from the people that listen like if it's impacting you and if it isimpact. If the PODCAST is impacting you by how much and wha in what ways,because that's really just good feedback so to have you know, the theengagement in the following growing...

...continually on twitter and on twitch isalways huge to just draw new people into. Let them know what we're doing,what we're providing and how we can potentially help them that that's kindof what I want to see just in the future. The CAST is just growing thatengagement, because you know, if we don't know. What's onyour mind, you know we can't really. We can't really talk about it so havingthat is just a huge thing for me just being able to really tap into the heartof of the POKMON trading card game, community, very good. We have one last thing that we want to talk about and Riley. I am just as excited as you are aboutthis, but we will be hosting one more well, not one more does not our lastbut we'll be hosting another giveaway here coming up for hour, one yearanniversary. So please look out on twitter. If you're not alreadyfollowing us at tag team Pokemon on twitter, you can find us there and then,of course, if you're following either me t me or rily on twitter. That iswhere we will be doing this giveaway. So we will for sure be retweeting this,but look out for another giveaway. We willbe giving away a Zatian and Zamazenta v at some point in the future, just tocommemorate our one year of podcasting. So we wanted to do that with therelease of Sord and shield. With the one year anniversary of the cast, wethought that this might be a very cool giveaway to do for for our listeners, we had our full art,red and blue that we gave away maybe a month or two ago, and that was a hugesuccess, and so we want to keep that train rolling with a new give woy. Solook out for that in the next week or so, but for now we are signing off, I'mJW, creewall Riley Halbert, obviously, is my co Caster and we just thank youfor a great year. It's really been full of a lot of highs for us, and I echoeverything Riley said in terms of one of the most meaningful things has beento hear from you guys personally and meeting the listeners of the cast whosay: Hey, I really love what you've done and keep it up. That is one of thebiggest things that I've taken away from this year. So thank you guys, allfor being listeners for being viewers. Thank you for giving us five starratings on Itune spotify stitcher. Wherever you get your podcast, you canget us now across all platforms, so make sure if you don't already have usdownloaded on your favorite platform that you do that right now and give usa good review. We thank you so much for that. That is the cast. You guys appreciateit so much and we'll talk to you guys next week later.

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