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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast
Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 2, Episode 14 · 2 years ago

2-14. Blue Garcia Griego

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

What is up everybody? Welcome back to tag team pokemon. Treating Card Games for me or PODCASTING TO DO? Oh, my name is Riley Hulbert, joined by my good friend JW crew wall, and with us today is a very special guest, as will garciagree, I go. Is it all? How you doing today? I'm doing doing great, feeling good, super excited to keep playing more rebel clash. I'm glad that got the new set out. That's what I'm excited for right now. Yeah, are you kind of done with the Sword Shield set? Yeah, that was don't have super stale super fast. The advisation is the king. We can leave it at that. Yeah, it's a pretty bad format. I think generally speak, are at least very played out. Yeah, now the problem is when it is played out, like in you know, two weeks or whatever. Yeah, yeah, it didn't take very long for it to become played out. Yeah, I agree for sure. So I think we could just jump right into it. Then you said you're loving rebel clash. What is it that makes it so fun and interesting? You? I mean, I don't think it's anything more so than others sets. It's just new cards. I just get excited to play. Like I always say, my favorite format is the next format that we're not playing and yet because there's just new stuff. I just want new stuff. So it's fresh right now and it probably because the sword and shield form I was so bad that just having anything new is just it's super exciting. Yeah, well, you sound just like every single one of my twitch viewers. They they can't appreciate what they got. You know, have to move on to the next newest thing. But that's cool. Yeah, what have you been looking at some of the new new stuff? You know, we're getting like two sets ahead of ourselves, but from that dark stuff is like kind of kind of ask. So I do. I do look at the new cards a little bit. Yeah, the dark stuff looks pretty good. It's super exciting to see just some kind of pushing super strong to just give types of just a strong boost, like very old maybe like hopefully not to overpower. I think Zatian was a little overboard the metal saucer and all the support I got immediately maybe a little bit too much on Zatian side, but hopefully this one's not quite as overwork or maybe just enough to match it, and then maybe that's what we're good, we're in a match. The strength that Zation had with every type. But I usually don't look too far had the new sets. A lot of people ask a lot of questions. I'm like, I don't know, I haven't read the cards. I look at the stuff on Poka beach once and then I won't look at it until the SEC comes. I don't like test new formats or think. I don't come up with decklist for new sets. I like when the cars come out on pdcg oh, that's when I play them. Otherwise, up to that point, you know, I'll look at the set when the when the full official set let's comes out of the only time I really look at the cards in depth at all. Then pass that. I don't look at them until they come out on PCG oh. Fair enough. I I personally am not a big fan of getting too deep in the in the sauce with new sets before they come out. It's like you stopped games to play. That's Farmat you know. Yeah, speaking of this format, are you going to be playing in the limitless qualifier this weekend? Yeah, I'm going to play. I'm going to play. Not Quite locked in on a deck. Yeah, it but got a couple couple decks that I really like definitely going to play. I was this the last one. I didn't play in qualified too, because the new set had just come out. So I'd much rather, you know, not play against like I expected Mutuo Malamar to do very well and it did in qualifier too, and I told you that to be a go to deck for a lot of people who, like we're kind of like tracking how the metals should develop and like knowing that. Just like if you just want to beat mill, you just play Metube Malamar. So I didn't want to go into a tournament plane against APSATION mill, which is super annoyed against, and then new two Malamar, which is also super annoying to play against. The this is Marni and trevnor. You. So I didn't play qualified to but I cling qualify one. It was a ton of fun. It's like a very long day, but it's definitely it's worth it, especially with no other competitive, real big competitive events going on now. I'm super excited for the qualifier through coming up. Cool expanding off that. Sorry, yeah, now, go ahead, go ahead. I'm do you think there's like a long, firm potential for Pokemon to start adopting online tournaments? I mean it seems like it's been a huge hit. Do you think that's just a product of the quarantine or is that something that could potentially become part of our circuit? I mean, I think it definitely. I don't think the client can currently support it on a like TPCI circuit level. I think if we ever saw them, you know, come out with a new client or make major changes to the current one, I think that would actually be a twell that they want to do that, but I wouldn't. I think I would like limit list to continue doing this. You know past, when you know the the your life events come back and I think, yeah, part of this success is, you know, part of you know, quarantiny note nothing going on competitive and a lot of people do just love the game so they want to play it on a competitive level. It's super it's like, I mean the energy I had just by playing in qualifier one. It was like so high. I loved it. It goes a ton of fun. I love competing again and yeah, it's just a ton of fun. So I think that is a big thing. People don't get that kind of trendoline rush wherever you want to call it right now because we don't have any turns going on. So that does I was actually super surprised there was only like it was like nine hundred and fifty for the first qualifire. I thought...

...the second qualifier would drop off by by a couple hundred, but it was like ten people less than qualifier one, and so I think qualifire, if this was, should be the biggest one yet with the new set out. So yeah, hopefully it gets bigger. I hope they continue. I don't know if they have. I'm sure they probably had a plane to continue it past these these first four qualifiers in the invitational because of how much success it's had. Hopefully keeps growing and I would like to see limitless kind of at least established their own online circuit. Whether, you know, pokemon comes out with something like official for online tournaments while the way and see by I don't think they will, unless we see a massive overhaul on the client, and I think if they do do that will definitely that will, let him be a sign that they plan on running online tournaments. You speak, you know, about the about the tournaments online circuit and how excited you are for that and I just want to ask, like, being away from the competitive circuit, and that was, you know, irl was so huge, what have you been doing during quarantine to kind of stay on top of your game and to remain, I don't know, I guess relevant if there isn't a competitive circuit in real life. You mean it's just like as being a competitor or like yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean just playing on ptcdos the most part. I mean I've never I mean my like try hard play testing with my group had kind of fallen off quite a bit, like the last three, like three years, and most of my plane really just come through just through the content, like streaming, making videos. That's where most of my playtime with pokemon comes from over like the last couple of years. I guess we're like International Championships and like worlds and stuff. They were definitely be a little bit more time set aside for testing, especially like the day's leading up to the vent, getting there a couple days before and so on. I play a lot, but it's pretty much the same for me as far as like, you know, kind of keeping up and keeping up with competing or just trying to stay, you know, on top of my game is just the same stuff I've been doing the last couple of years, which is just streaming Ptcgo and then making making content in general. Yeah, would you say that recently your content has been getting better? It's now that you have maybe more time to devote to it? Yeah, yeah, definitely. I feel like for sure it's been. I've given me time to kind of refine some of the stuff that I've wanted to or just even being able to like see some of the stuff that I even really have time to like go out of my way to like make better, kind of realizing that something I can improve on and then just kind of doing more of it, especially with the streaming, being able to stream more. I've always kind of wanted to stream as much as I possibly could, but that was kind of limited by I used to like longer coaching hours because, you know, back when there was a competiti season, people there's some more desire to for coaching. Way Less now and then I had, you know, the long weekends, regional weekends, but that's most of that's diminished to pretty much nothing. I mean, obviously there's no regionals anymore, stuff like that. So a lot more streaming, which is always been my goal is just kind of stream as much as possible. Like to actually delve into that a little bit. What kind of inspired you? What was the path that you took to get to this content creations like stage or niche and Pokemon us? Obviously you had a great history and story as a player, but what about content creation in particular was inspiring to you? Um, a lot of it comes from I've never wanted a lot of it comes from I've always just like, like, I remember watching just people streaming back on Justin TV before it was twitch TV, and I would just always very on of another right word, I'm looking forward like captivated by that and just watching people do stuff like that. Then I was there when twitch first became a thing, watching that immediately as I came out, and a lot of it come from that. And then I I used to watch a lot of youtube videos, like way back in the day, people like Phil to Franco, I think, someone smash. WHO's the other one? Yeah, needy, all this kind of I was always just I always really liked like just watching people create content. It's always been something I wanted to do, like make youtube videos and you know, as I watch you know, Justin TV become twitch and so on, stream on twitch and so on, and I steamed like I streamed like legal legends a long time ago for a little bit and then I did a stream for a while and then I just started. I think it was after I won Florida regionals with Eva Tall Garb I stream, I started streaming again. I think it was after that, a couple months after that, maybe it is when I started streaming ptcg oh on twitch. And it's always been something I wanted to do, whether or not you know. I know I'm down to the point where I'm doing a pretty much full time, which is great. I don't know if I had ever I know I it was always kind of like a dream to be able to do something like this full time. So I've never playing on definitely doing it, but the fact that I'm able to do it is great and we yeah, it was always just kind of like I want to do it and, you know, whether or not I can do it full time, we'll see. But yeah, just kind of started doing it because I just thought it was cool. Yeah, and just keep doing it because because you think it's cool. I mean, where do you think that you are in terms of your story content creating, like how far do you want to go...

...with it and, you know, where do you think you can end up? Um, I mean, I don't know. Hopefully it keeps growing. I would love to stay, you know, in Pokemon specifically and keep doing that. I don't have the unfortunate highest hopes for that because of the way, you know, that PTCG, Oh and kind of the online client is treated. It doesn't I don't see it having a long lifespan, unless they us Pokemon, Nintendo, whoever needs to do something does something about it. You know, I hope to say in the the whole you know, twitch streaming, Youtube, content creation. It's to some to some capacity, you know, and just you know, you know, I might not be doing Pokemon, you know, for the rest of my life. Maybe a new card game comes up, you know, hopefully something better than room Tera, but maybe a new card game comes up and I start playing that or, I don't know, something comes along and I'll just I'll switch over to that in streaming and stuff, especially as I expect PTCG or just pokemon and general to dwindle. Maybe. I mean I assume if the the cardium, the IRAL terms of stuff starts thriving and continue thriving like the way it has been the last couple of years. They will probably look at, you know, update in the client, doing something thing like that, because I'm very jealous of what the guys have over there with magic, the the magic arena client. That thing is super sick. So I don't have a with the way it's going now. I don't have super high expectations for it to last forever, although that's the way that's the way I would like it to go. For for POKEMON. It's interesting because I feel like we've had multiple people now criticize the tcg Oh client and say that's, I guess, one of the things that the POKEMON trading car game is lacking compared to are games. And I feel like every time we kind of go over what things would you do to improve it? So when you look at TCG OH or your vision for how that might look, what are certain things that you would hope that would be included? I mean there's like so there's so many things. There's so many basic things that I feel like they have the capability of doing. I mean, I'm not I'm not someone who can like make these clients. I have no idea, like, as far as like the coding goes and all of that, what it would ever take to do something, but even to something as simple as just folders for decks, so I could, you know, put my deck and specificals and I can have two thousand and seven worlds a folder with x in that. But the biggest and the first thing they should do definitely is just a ranked ladder, right. That's the first that's the first thing and I think it would draw so many people. There's so many people who I know who like have pdcg oh, but no one plays the ladder like the ladder. Definitely, the most played is probably been in a while with the with the quarantine going on. But if they just had a ranked ladder and you could come up with some very like cosmetic prizes for, you know, being the first place or top ten at the end of the month, make it a monthly ladder like every other card game does. Just copy hearthstone system. No one's no one's gonna Fault you for it, like God I heard does. I just don't understand it because you look at Pokemon go and you look at the video game and they are you know, they both have a ranked ladder, they both have a ranking system. It's like why not Phcgo? Yeah, that's like the first thing and I feel like they have to be able to implement something with that in the current client. I mean, like I said, I don't know the they struggled with beast energy for a long time, so I don't know how hard it is for them to change stuff on PDCG. Oh. So it's either a tell is nothing, and I wish they would just be I was. I've been saying this recently. It's like, I wish they would just at least communicate with us and tell us you know. You know we want to eventually do something, we want to make these big changes. We can't right now or we're not going to do anything ever, and this is what your guys are gonna have to just work with until, you know, it fizzles out and then we stop updating the client. But I it's some communication would be great. Or if that, if they were just actively doing something, that would be enough. But we're kind of in an area where they're not actively doing anything, they're not communicating with us and telling us. You know we want to make these big changes. We can't or these big changes are coming or anything. So yeah, but the ranked, ranked ladder would definitely be it would draw so many people to the game. Like I would be grinding there the thirty of every month, thirty one, whatever. I would be sitting there grinding games, trying to get that first play seed or first play spot at the end of every month, for sure. And I that would be the first step, for sure, just a ranked a ranked ladder, for sure. Yeah, I totally agree the rank glad it would be so much fun at least, even if it didn't draw more people. Would be more fun than this current like fall our card for you know, some useless supporter from five sets ago. Yeah, yeah, I don't. Don't. Ill Talk Bonnie for all problems. Already have my place out up all our body. So and the market values now crash. I road climbed it claves and even play Bonnie and his eyeguar g x deck brother. So it's so icide warning body felt like it should be like cool and fun. But yeah, I mean if I, yeah, if I felt felt definite, felt like...

I remember when I first read the card and was like it's it feels like one of those cards that it's kind of like scary. I know this can be abuse. That's like really scary, but yeah, obviously bonning not quite that kind of card, not quite able to play support in a stadium every trunk consistently. So yeah, who would have thought? That actually makes me think of a different route to pivot too. So what is your biggest like deck or card disappointment of all time? And pokemon deck or car disappointment, like something I try to make work or I thought would be good or yeah, exactly, yes, Oh man, hmm, that's a tough one. Trying to think. I feel like I was hyping up something recently and that I tried it out and I just couldn't quit. Like maybe something from short and sheild recenting. I can't come up with anything off the top of my head. Oh, I guess flap, like recently flapp will from rebel clash. I don't know if it's the biggest, but I did. I read that card. I read the stadium like Turfield is an insanely good card. Yeah, it just doesn't quite have the cards that were. The boom is like okay with the the Rita Boom. Mirilla boom deck is like okay, but if flap, I thought flap would be really good, but everything has a little bit to UN HP and it's like a little bit too slow actually to get enough flapple's like out there to have gone enough damage value out of them. So recently, flapple, I can't come up but there's probably been a bigger one in my past. But flapple as a recently. Yeah, as the I thought he was gonna BE SCO MOUs. I've been him up to but he fell a little bit on the other Spide of that coin. Just is there a card from your youth that you remember very distinctly that maybe I don't know that you were particularly drawn to, that maybe you know got you into the game or something, that you just remember the artwork very distinctly? I actually don't know too much of your back story. When did you start playing and then can you give me a card from when you started playing that just always holds that special place in your heart? I started playing in two thousand, like met like end of two thousand and nine, two thousand and ten like. I started like going to league in two thousand and nine and then I started playing in like tournaments in two thousand and ten. Are as I played a little bit in two thousand nine, because I did play a little bit, as I played like three tournaments as a senior. Specific Card that I can I mean the one card, the card that I've kind of like defaulted, like I don't really have a favorite pokemon. I say it Shup it because that's the card I used to win my first regional championships, but I don't really have like I mean a car. I can't really think of like. I mean that can picture cards in my head from all the way back then, but I can't like one doesn't really stand out to me particularly. I don't really, I don't really it's I don't really like I even say, like, you know, I'm not overly drawn to Pokemon, like I didn't play the video games. I've never finished a POKEMON video game. I've the only pot one video game. I played this or in shield, and I haven't even finished that one. I think if, like, I had played magic, like me and my brothers had played magic or Yu Gi oh, I would just be playing that on the same competitive level. I think I'm like, I'm nothing. Nothing really ties me to Pokemon. Until you know, to this point where I'm this deep into it right like nothing was keeping me in the in the car game early on, besides kind of my friends that were in the game that I made through it, and then until up to this point, where I've kind of devoted my current career path towards it, just being a content creator in it, and nothing was really time you me to Pokemon. Besides kind of my friends in the game. I'm not overly like attached to pokemon in general. I really enjoy the game but you know, I never played the video games. I don't have it like a special like attachment. I don't have a fraid really I don't truly have a favorite pokemon. I just give it to shut it. But yeah, that's nothing, nothing that comes to mind really for that for sure. So what brought you into the game then? Was it your brothers? Did you have friends who played? What like are you into the scene? So, yeah, we had we I was had cards. I've ever had pokemon cards or pretty much everyone had pokemon cards, and then we had a friend. Me and my brothers had a friend who like also had cards and like went to League and he like, you know, brought us the League one time and then we played a league and you know, and then you know, I have two brothers in a sister who used to play. So we'd be playing Pokemon all the Times at our house and then we go to league on the weekends. Then we started going to our first couple of tournaments and yeah, we just we just played a lot, likego something that we did. So we continue doing it. Yeah, I don't and it never had like a yeah, we started playing, we started playing from there, went to League, Bunch of tournaments and then, you know, started getting pretty good at it because me and my brothers played all the time. My brothers were pretty good too. Unfortunately, they both decided to quit right as they aged up to masters, so they didn't really give it their all and see how good they actually could have been. I think they would have been pretty good if they kept playing. We are all pretty good. I wasn't like any better than them at all when we were playing. They just didn't want to continue with it like I did. I always think it would have been really interesting if my brother should continue play with I think we would have been pretty good in the game if we had all played together and continue playing the yeah, the kind of gape up on it essay made their way into the master's division. Scary thought. Three of the creego brothers just like...

...yeah, nominating that. I actually I think we could have. I think we could have had because we played a lot. Like when we were together. We play a lot. We'd like we're like more thorough and testing, even though if our Dr ideas and our mindset wasn't as refined as like I am now with my testing, like we had like ideas behind like my I remember my brother played at National's. He played a quad down fan deck. It was like two years in a row for my brother. It was. It was a very funny. Actually two years in a row he played against the only autoloss he could in top sixty four at NAT's. One was he was playing. He's playing the steel look stext, you looks prime and we didn't we didn't talk to anyone, we didn't know anyone. came up with the steeloks prime on our own, with with like the healing where you constantly healed and they hit the only was it called the shop that there's a shop at that but like a one one blaze kin in it hit the only one of those in top sixty four and he lost, he would have won nationals. That you're almost guaranteed if he had not hit that guy in top sixty before. Then the next year he plays a quad down fandeck. But we didn't test the dark by Mutue match because we didn't know dark by Mutuo it existed. And then we would have played losh remover in his list for sure if we had known existed and he lost to that guy. Be I'd like the testing back then with my brother's like we always it was very like we're very refined in what we were trying to accomplish. Obviously, probably not as good as it would have been to this day, but yeah, yeah, I would have been, I always think, by God, have been interesting if they had continued playing, for sure. Yeah. Plus, is always good having resources close to home, right. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure be able to slam some games. It's some other sounds convenient at least. Yeah, definitely, definitely so as well. You take me as someone who, and you can correct me if I'm wrong here, but you go all in on things that you do. It seems like you're very into pokmon. You kind of gone all in on the streaming thing. has there been any other hobbies that you've liked picked up throughout your life that have also like warranted this investment of time and interest? Um, yes, yeah, I definitely am very all I don't like doing something I like doing. I only like doing things if I can be competitive about them. That's why, yeah, that's why. I even in, like pretty much in anything, even in like video games. I don't like playing video games where I can't be competitive about it. Stuff like just kind of call him out of the animal like animal crossing, you know, and a lot of people love him, but those kind of games and like stuff like minecraft or it's kind of like an endless cycle of just, you know, doing stuff over and over again. There's no, no, like competitive sides to it. But legal legends is something that I used to play a ridiculous amount of legal legends, and I'm saying them out like yeah, like and like I would wake up, play league legends, go to bed, wake up, play legal legends, go to bed. So that's that's really the only other thing. But yeah, if it's if it's if I can't be competitive at it, then I don't like doing it. And if I do, if I can be competitive of it and like I don't like doing something and not trying to give it my all and try to be the best that I can add it. So there's Pokemon, obviously, is where I'm at, at at right now, at that. But yeah, legal legends is like the only thing. I mean, I know, like you said, like hobby, Video Games in general I guess be a hobby, but legal legends for me was definitely like used to be like something I used to do give it my all out and was like literally the only thing I did because I just wanted to be the best that I could add it. I committed many, many hours to legal legends for for a couple of years. I'm I always kind of wish I could have had tried a little bit harder. I remember, you know, I got the highest, I got almost the Highestrik you could diamond in it, and then I kind of just like stopped there. I was like, okay, that's pretty good. I'm I'm gonna Chill at that. I always kind of wish I if I could. One of my regrets, it goes, would not be trying harder at legal legends and once I got to that point, I kind of like definitely could have gone further. In that I definitely regret not giving it a little bit more. Maybe I won't have been able to make anything more out of it, but definitely trying out a little bit harder at that something I regret not doing. Well, there's little gg on the LCS stage. Still not buying words, though. Yeah, I wouldn't buy any words, but but back that, back then, a lot of back then, a lot of people going to buy words. I think it was fine. Fit Right in with like wild turtle and stuff. So I guess. Yeah. So now we have three different facets at least. We have the league, we have streaming and we pokemon. I would like one peak from each of those activities. One Peak, like what? Not a peak, a Ram, but like a high point. I like I see, you know, like a po like a peak. Yeah, so streaming, POKMON and league legends. All right. Well, I mean for Pokemon, I think it's pretty easy. It's going to be and I didn't even have that. I didn't even do that well, but it was definitely not this season. But last season, when just the group I was a part of was kind of winning. We're winning so many tournaments and was such a was a great group of guys. I was just like a fun to show up to every tournament and be with them and when the tournament and feel I didn't never felt cocky, but like feeling so confident that, if you know, if I just played my best and we all played our...

...best, one of us is going to win the tournament, like and that was like. And then the best moment was definitely when when Isaiah won Australia with the Ozaptos like that. That goes Super Fun to play to. Our List wasn't that great. We didn't spend we could spend a lot more time on the list, but like the deck was we are so far ahead of whatever else was playing it didn't really matter. I've had right for Vulkar and their peak rom. So I mean it was going to be an easy tournament. But yeah, that was the peak of my pokons. Definitely that that whole season pretty much was just I mean towards the end it kind of fell off quite a bit, but you know, the for the first the first half and middle was it was great. That's definitely like the peak and even though I didn't have that great results that year, I mean I got now, I mean did decent at the I sees. And then I caught a couple seconds at regionals, but like overall it felt like it couldn't get better than that because even if I knew, if I just played my best, one of us was winning the tournament almost guaranteed, I felt like every time we walked into a tournament. So that was definitely the as far as pokemon goes, that's definitely the the peak moment right there. Yeah, so I don't know, it feels like for streaming it's like every time a new set releases the stream that's like the my favorite stream. Every like set release stream is like the my favorite stream. So my my peak for for streaming is the next set release. I can't wait for that one. That's going to be a ton of fun. Excited for that. And then you want to one for legal legends as well. Yeah, but legends, I mean it's definitely. I definitely like when I first the first like season, like season three in legal legends, two thousand, I don't even know when that is. That's when I first started playing, the first start playing the game. I got my I played with my friends in normals like every day. When they weren't playing, I would play by myself. I got to rank thirty and I just went immediately to ranked. Didn't play normals ever again. I rarely ever play a game in a normals I can't remember last time I played a game at normal league legends. I hate it. Once I got into rank, it was just like frank was like all I cared about playing the normal game. There was like no it was like it felt like I was wasting time when I could be playing a ranked game. And then, yeah, just hitting diamond felt like that was a back then. That was like a felt like like I want a regional's back then. For like what I got diamond in legal legends. It was insane. It was great. It was my first season playing. I knew that was a big accomplishment in itself. And Yeah, that was I mean for legal legends. That was it was just like hitting diamond in my first season playing. I wasn't even at the end of the season. I was like a little bit over halfway season through. So that felt felt pretty ridiculously good to achieve that. That's pretty awesome. I definitely was not diamond my first season. I played a ridiculous amount of league, though. In my I like literally it was wake up, play league legends, go to bed as as many hours so I could actually play league legends. That's I was playing league legends. I would obsessed with the game. Yeah, it was a lot of legal legends. Yeah, that's not an uncommon story, I feel especially in the season three and four days. I feel like that was some people. There was the game league. Yeah, game felt a lot better back then to more fun at least. Yeah, definitely, definitely cool. So I think one thing that you called out as a peek was, you know, your experience with, you know, the gang and being able to dominate those tournaments for so long. And I'm sure one thing a lot of people were realizing or thinking on the sidelines is, you know, what's going on here? How are they able to consistently come up with such good ideas? Do you have any insight into what that process looks like? You not to go away any sort of secrets or anything? Yeah, like how would someone up their game to be able to, you know, refine their list come look stronger ideas? What's the strategy that goes into that? Um, I mean so a couple a lot of it is, you know, just kind of trying to figure out what you want to beat in a tournament and I like to think I'm pretty good at Predicting Meadows for tournaments in general, and that's like the biggest strength you can have, because if your deck, if someone's deck, is, you know, built to beat everything that's like tier one to tier three, they're dect going to be worse than a deck that is simply built to beat like four decks and then can handle some of the tier three decks. Right, you're going to be a stronger deck overall. So when you when those next meet, you're just going to you're going to probably just beat them right, because your decks are fine to just beat those. And one of my, I think, standout dex was the glist up ont garbodor that I got second with at was at Memphis medicine, one of those Memphis. Yeah, I was like I want to beat Zork decks and I didn't even know buzzle was, I going to be a deck, but it beat buzz wall, so that was cool. And then I was like I lose the guard for and I was like, but no good players are going to play guardboard. None of them did. If there's going to be any day too, is going to be very little, or was very little in day too. And you know, I kind of walks through that tournament pretty easily. Had A tough one against Mahone in the top four, but everything else up to that I almost went n I know on the day one I tied a Graninja that I should have beat and then I I tied my hone and what was looking...

...very good for me in game three. So I almost went to Oh and day one. Like feeling good, super good about that one. Then that's kind of like the one thing I think I'm very good at is kind of like predicting tournaments. So you either want to play the broken deck, you know, a broken deck that no one knows about. So either playing eight like in the in sort and shield. You either playing atpsation. Nothing beats it, so you can't. You you either are playing the broken deck or playing a deck that beats it, but take losses somewhere else, or something like baby stephones. I was something like the Sword Shield met. It's like very hard to come up with anything. But yeah, you're looking to either play the best list of the broken deck, and the good example is a typsation. You're trying to play a broken deck that other people just don't know about. A good example of that is the toad ZARC deck that we came up with an expanded which is definitely best at Portland, because that was like when no one had any idea what the heck was going on when we were playing that. or You just want to be playing a deck that where you call them met a really well and you're like, I'm going to beat these four decks because I know these are the two decks, even though they're really good, just aren't going to show up. No one's going to play them, so I don't have to worry about them. I'll take the else of those just beat these decks over year and give myself that big advantage. Now. Now, when you say no one, are you referring specifically to like the field at large, or when you met a game? Are you looking at what the best players will play? It can be. It can be a mix of both. So it can be you can look at just what the best players are going to play, and that's something I personally do a lot is I'll feel like the good players are not going to the above average players, the better players, you know, the people who are you know, constantly making day to no surprise, if the win the event or easily top eight the event, they're not going to play that deck. So that in that effects that's mostly a draw towards the day to Meta in general, because there's two different metas. There's the day one Meta and there's the day to Meta. And and something that we haven't seen in a while is that because of, you know, AP station being so good, it is the day one met it is also the day to Meta. So we don't see that as much as we've have in the past. I feel like even in recent years it's less. It's becoming less and less. So that that's a thing because the information share is so high and everyone is like leaning towards less decks beat like the the most popular DEX are more and more popular. Like there's just less. There's a less decks being played overall. So we're just seeing less of a difference between day one and two Meta overall. For sure. Excuse me, what's your original question? Against our I'm I went off on there. Oh, just that. Are You metigating? Yeah, the hop players or yeah, yeah, so, yeah, it depends depends on what the what decks are in the Meta and if, like there is a specific deck that is good but not too heavily played. I think a good example going back to that Memphis Seaman was guard war was like a pretty good deck even at that time, but I was like it's a good deck, but it's just like it's not. It's Gett no matter what's happens. It's not going to be a super heavily played deck and I just know the the better players are just not going to play this deck. So I just don't have to. I don't have to have if I make the day too, if I hit them in day one. Oh, while, I hit them in day one, if I make it today too, they just won't exist and they just didn't exist in day too. So that, with that one specifically, was the no one's just going to just no one's gonna play this. But sometimes it is something old, more overall Meta, like something you can just be like, I'm just going to Count Blake baby blounds out this tournament for Soandso reason and so on, ether whether you think people are going to heavily tech for it, like even going into qualifier to it would have been a pretty good bet to just be like everyone's going to be switching decks that beat mill or that, or people are going to take more against me, so I'm just not going to play to beat mail. That would have been a pretty safe bet, I think. I think mill saw a jurrastic downswing in terms of play and success from qualifier one to Quali fire do at least in today two and day one. I don't know if who is still super populd, but I'm pretty sure the day two numbers were way down then what they used then what they were in qualifier one. So going from qualifier one to qualifire two would have been an okay bets to just not prepare yourself your own deck for mill just based on assuming people would tech for mill, be more prepared for me, just knowing the match up better, and then just beating playing a deck like the Mutu Malamar that was super popular. That just beats mill. So it's a it's a mix. It kind of depends on what the good decks are and then what kind of level of tournament is as well. That is a follow up that. Is there any sort of method that you employ to predict the metagame or what kind of you know, strategies do you use to help facilitate your predictions of what people might play? Dum just just kind of thinking about the Meta. That's kind of it, and it's almost kind of like thinking about yeah, just kind of like thinking about and like would I just kind of ask myself the question of if I do think people would play this deck or if I think the you know, if it's a situation where I'm like what do I want to do? I want to like if I'm trying to specifically beat, what I think the better players in the term are going to play? Do I think they'll play? And I kind of ask myself that question. I answer yes or no. Like a good one would be just be like spell tag Malmar. I'm like do the do I think the better players going to play? About like Malamar? The answers no, but the people at large and place about like Malam...

...are the answers also. Know. So we're kind of just to take the other spell tag Malamar right. So I kind of ask ask myself the question. Then I kind of just like think through it and then I just come up with a yes or no just based on kind of my knowledge and put throughout playing the game. So I have so much of it. So I've been playing for so long now. Just kind of thinking about you know, in the past, do people tend to trend towards these kind of decks? You know, yes or no. Do I expect people to stick on them? Yes or no? Peak Ram would definitely be more. It's like it's probably going to show up. Good players also enjoy playing it. So you expect the one to come, especially when, like with rebel clash, there so much people. I'm out there, so that's like, you know, it's I just kind of ask myself the question. That is, kind of think about it. That's that's that's kind of my whole process on that. For that one. It's a worthy process indeed. Let's talk about rebel clash a little bit now then. So you think peak a Ram's going to be big. We got the qualifier coming up. You're potentially playing in it. What are some of the decks that you predict, as someone who has a firm themselves is being good at predicting that a games be a part of rubble clash format, putting them on the spot. What you say, cannon will be used against you. And for the record, I definitely think I used to be better at it. I don't know. I don't know what change, but I used something. I think it's actually harder to pretict men as Alecause the information share is so high. They're just simply less decks in the tournament. So it's harder. It's harder to like weave between decks. Is just kind of like here's five decks. All can be really popular. You have nothing you can do about it. As what it's feels like it is more now, but for the qualifier this weekend, atpsations still going to be really big because we haven't the decks haven't developed enough to prove and there has a been a like no one's can prove that they can beat atpsation consistently or they kind of dominate it. Besides, obviously baby blonds like has an advantage, but even then it's like not that big advantage, specially with people going up to hire. Marty counts is getting closer and closer. So apsation still going to be super big. I think Dragon Paul's going to be super biggusly cool new deck that seems to be able to stick around or hang against the the ATPSATION. So every one wants to play that. One just because it's like something cool, something new. Hey can beat ATPS aition. That's pretty cool and it doesn't loose to everything else. And then peak a Ram, I just do there's just so much peak around at I see people talking about I've seen a couple like tournaments, you know, people playing with the rebel clash cards and there's like four peak rams and their top eights. I'm like, well, why are there all these being around here? So there's a lot of I think a peak ram is going to be super popular as well. It definitely got better speed energies in thesanmely good card. It was like on my top ten list for for rebel clashing, I put as my second card, like even if it even if it's all zero play, the card would still be insanely broken. Like if it if it released with rebel clash and it's all zero play from now to the end of time and Pokemon, the card would still be insanely broken, because drawing two cards when you attack your energy for turn is insane. That's just US two cards right. So yeah, those three are going to be the big ones and I think like, I don't know what, like baby blesstuff along will definitely be more popular than whatever's next. But I don't even know what comes after those four. Like I really like GERACI prism starstation, but it's not going to be heavily played, I think, at all. Then there's stuff like to tricity, which I think is like the only other new deck that can really hang with everyone, because it really can. If you just draw if you like, if you just draw decently, you just beat down on anything that else is big. Like you just beat atps Aition, you just beat drag up Paul, like you just one shotting everything. So that deck, I think it's pretty good. Obviously you can't hang against baby will cephalon. It's just kind of a big dude. This worth a lot of prize cards. So that's that's what baby steff on loves. You have no tricks to get extra prize cards. So but if you just if you're playing up against rag up pols and ATP stations all day, then the talk to cities actually, I think, pretty good. But those are like the only new decks. firebox, which is something I've been playing decent amount with recently on stream, felt really good. Felt really good being able to one shot a v Max feels really nice and he tran can do that. Give them a few GI him a couple turns on a couple welders. The TINV is very good at setting him up. So I think that that we'll see. I think that, like if we'll see a lot of success. I don't know how heavily played it will be. I think firebox will see a lot of success and it has been recently in the qualifiers, the other qualifiers as well. I think it's definitely an underrated deck, definitely a deck that people it has a stigma around it where it's have to run super hot, it's really clunky, it's really inconsistent. It's not the deck is fine. He's got to learn how to pilot it properly. Vic TV ads a ton of consistency to the deck. Of I can whiff a welder but still have enough energy and play to actually be ahead in the prize exchange. So I expect the ton of exist success out of that deck. I might play that one myself. It's up there on my list after playing so much with it recently. They had the big ones peak, Rom eightpzation and drag up. All those are the big three for sure. For sure. I always find it interesting that firebox gets that insane stigma around it when it was piloted by top players to consistent success at some of the biggest and most prestigious that had sup poker. Yeah, and the one that I brought up recently was just robin. Robin and Nico were that the only two players to like play that build. The abilities are, I believe at Brazil Robin and wins. Nico was five. Huh, I know, he said He. I think he choked some games like the rot. Niko should have been in day two there as well, and who knows how far he could have gone at Brazil. And they were like the only...

...two people piloting that new age abilities are at that tournament. And then you had lassage again Australia, you know, piling it to the second place. Not a whole not a whole ton. I change with like his but I got the VIC TV, which is actually huge for that. Actually, I don't know if he played the Vit TV. He had the volcane and they're still pretty good. He had the VIC TINV. Oh, we didn't have the VOLCAN and that's right. Get the VIC TV, which is like actually a big, big deal in the that because it gives you like an extra turn to with welder. So yeah, and then he was one of the few people playing it as well. He's maybe the only one in day too. Maybe there was two. But yeah, people like to knock on it, so they don't play it. It has that weird stigma around it which which kind of like people don't even play that because, oh, it's supposed to be a gift to run insanely hot, it's super inconsistent, Clinky, I'm not even gonna try it. And then when people, you know, play it for a couple games, they get that one hand where it's six fire ander g and a bull pics and they just give up on it immediately. So yeah, definitely does not deserve the the hate it gets at all. Super Strong deck right now. It isn't as consistent as Peka, ram or is AAn ATP or Dragon Ball, but it's not bad for sure. That's not a reason to not play the deck right well, it's got a fundamentally more complicated game plan right, like there's just more going on. Yeah, yeah, definitely it's not. It's not attach, attach, attack, attach, attach gx, attack, attach attach full blitz. It's got to be a little bit got yet I put enough energy and just probably got to get him. Sometimes there for the Victini prison, you have to manage energy and play to use certain lator and he tran and all that stuff. Yeah, definitely a little bit more complicated and in that aspect for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Well, we're I think this is a good time to start opening up the floor, but I don't think we could get through an interview without asking about this. That is who you live with. You you know you're living with Michael Pramo Watt, one of the most accomplished, arguably one of the, you know, greatest of all time, pokemon players and also American Dad. Yeah, the you know, I would say, one of the highest growing, you know, twitch streamers and content creators right now. Yeah, out there. So talk to us a little bit about that house and you know what the family dinner is like. I mean we're all kind of I mean I'm always busy all the time working on something. Pram is quiet most of the time, Andrews Loud, thankfuely, not too loud, but yeah, he's always busy with with, you know, his streaming stuff, and he's blowing up. Reason I always knew he would, which kind of be a matter of time until he you know, he has sorry blowing up recently over there on his channel. But yeah, I mean, I mean for me, I'm always been someone who kind of keeps in myself anyways. But yeah, they did's like ditch chill. It's just she'll living with them. Their chill guys. Yeah, that's it. Print pramps quieter, Andrews Louder. I guess I'm somewhere in between, maybe a little bit. But yeah, it's a fun the fun time for sure. You can't much. Yeah, go ahead, right. I was going to say you definitely have an above average amount of, you know, like Nile shaped objects in your house. Yeah, and you has quite a few toys. Yeah, for sure, you got put a new toys and he leaves them around the House sometimes. But yeah, it doesn't by it'sn't bother me too much. It just gotta, you know, turn on the light, you know, going to the bathroom in the middle of the night. Yes, going to make sure cool. So good. All right. So let's go to the chat and it looks like it's all memes. Why do you think that you gravitate towards the, you know, kind of meme side when you stream. I think that's always kind of interesting to see the personality come out, whether it be, you know, super serious or super memi or somewhere in between. Where do you think you fall on the spectrum and why do you think you fall there? Um Hmm, I think I mean more recently has been fallen towards the meme side of things, for sure. Definitely when I first started streaming. Is definitely more serious as far as like the Chackos and every thing, but it gets boring, something less exciting. The memes are fun it. Definitely need to keep them in check. Otherwise, you know, they get repetitive and they get old and they become unfun real fast. So You keep them, keep the memes in check, but definitely, definitely towards the Mimi sign is definitely the I think the the better place to be. He's got to do it, you know, keep it, keep it contained a little bit. As the extension of that, this is something I definitely wanted to ask. What's the deal with the rat thing? Like, how did that start? You've always been a fan of the word rat. You said rat a lie the time. That I've known you, but how that become? Yeah, you're symbol or I got I don't know. Just goin. They have the word rat, called everything rats. Dedanne was a big rat, involved in the making of the rats. And then one day Michael...

Ktron, I don't know how he found this song song, requested us a ridiculous birthday. It's called rat's birthday, re birthday remix, ridiculous rat song. You'd have to just listen to it. I don't know where, whoever and whoever made it. I don't know how they came up with it. Like I always like to think when people like you know that really you know, you end up in one of those really weird places on YouTube or should video after video to throughly, I feel like those people are all geniuses because, there's people who invent but people like you, know you like Elon Muss, he's obviously a genius and you know making all his weird stuff and gadgets and so on. But then you have people who make these really weird youtube videos. Like to think of anything extreme and any and any you know, any direction. I feel like you have to be a genius, Bro so the whoever invent to that rat song is definitely a genius in some some respect. But the rat picture on the on the video was just that that rat and he just looks Zuber's super zonked out, like our awesome rather. It's just horrific and I kind of just all kind of grew from there. Just grew from their calling everything rats and then the Kar requested the the Weird Birthday remix rat song, which is kind of become the channel anthem or theme song whatever. An yeah, the rass just kind of took off from there. Basically amazing. So we got a lot of memes and chat, some of them disguised as questions. A lot of Crow Bad v questions are quite I for you. Actually, have you? Have you seen the Curbat? No, not yet. I actually I have not taken a look at it. I think for if people keep bringing it up. At first I thought they were just saying it was they reprinted Shamin, but apparently it's a whole different card. I thought it just renamed it and was a shame, but it's a whole different card now, Bro's. It's insane. It sounds crazy. I definitely got to take a lot the CROBAD v people have to get. People don't remind me that, I might forget. So yeah, definitely take a look the crow by V. Eventually, odd day, one day, one day, which just went util it comes out. That'll be the day. Dan Really wants to know your Taco Bell Order as well. It's Taco Bell Order. I get the what is the thing called where it's like the it's like a in a, it's like a like a case idea. Yeah, the contrap supreme. That that thing. I think, yeah, yeah, that's it. Just like all the stuff into one thing. You just get that. It's a lot of food. So I freak. Is this cheap brow which is really good. Like I've never was like a huge fan of Taco belt or like I liked it and but I don't want like about a month ago I went there, I went to talk about I got a contrap SUPREMU and I would just like ever since then I'm kind of has been in love with how it's just so good. whever I like. I don't eat fast food very often, but when I do I usually just go to to talk about because it's just so good. I don't know what they did, what they put in there, but man, keep it up. Talk of Ell be hitting different during quarantine. Definitely. Here's an interesting one. Out of ten, how good will lost March be this quarter? I'm trying to think of like what a one would be, because then it's probably around a two or three. I'm trying to like I'm trying to think of that the spectrums. It's probably around a three. If we're putting like the ones at like something was called fable, like some people talking about club fable, Mag mortar deck, that's probably like a one or zero. So then lost march is probably like out of three. Maybe he gets up to it for probably a three. We have a lot of culinary questions. So that leads me to ask. Like you say you don't go out for gass food that often. Are you are your home cook or you are your chef? Well, I amateur chef, you know, partaking in the culinary arts. I don't Cook. I don't cook very often. I do cook. Sometimes I'm kind of like a basic like I'll just cook things that are really simple, like just like chicken and Broccoli kind of stuff, you know, Pasta. Sometimes I will get a little bit more adventure. It's not very often, though. I just keep I buy based very basic, easy to cook eat things that can easily cook at home for for meals. Don't go into like I don't get like frozen meals or anything, but, like you know, I keep it simple, or simple as I possibly can. Pan Average string cheese. Yeah, peanut bar, Jelly, apples, bananas, popcorn like way, popcorns pretty good. But sometimes I will like be like, you know, I really want to make like, I don't know, Lasania or something, I'll go out of my way and I'll do that. That's a that's a big step up from the yeah, I don't do it often, but yeah, sometimes when I want to have the time. But the biggest thing for me is always kind of just time. I like I try and you spend as much of what the much much of my time as possible. I said, I want to stream as much as I possibly can, you know, up to a point. You know I'm probably not going to be doing, you know, streaming sixteen hours every day, but you know, up to a point I want to get to. I want to like find that point and then I want to continuously try and stream that much. So I'm currently trying to stream as much as possible and then, when I'm not...

...streaming youtube videos and other content like my patreon that I've just started up recently and stuff like that. And then, you know, somehow I do get tired any of break, play some video games when I when I do have time, and then, and then, yeah, if I if I have, I find myself of the decent chunk of time. That's what I'm like. All Right, I'm going to I'm try and cook something. What what are some streamers or youtubers that you're looking at right now for either inspiration or even, like on a wind down, that you just really enjoy their content? Honestly, doesn't have to be pokemon related. But yeah, UM, Youtube, I've actually cut kind of I've gone out of my ways to cut youtube. I used to watch too much youtube. I used to watch a lot. I would be I was subscribe to like over a hundred channels. Now I'm only subscribed to music channels and video game donkey because he's super funny. You a game duncany is the only only content Creator Youtube word that I'm still subscribed to besides just music channels on Youtube. Actually, one of the things I used to I do do to film my time is I just look for music, like I just go listen to music. Comes prided to like four or five or six different the just channels on Youtube that upload music daily and I just go and I start listening to music. Sometimes I just like I love I'm a huge, like a huge fan of music. Everyone's a fan of music, but literally, if music's not playing and I'm not doing something, I'm talking to someone, I'm playing music, like I'm I have music on all the time, like while I'm recording my videos, I'm listen to music, I'm editing my videos and listening to musical I'm streaming, I'm listening to music. So yeah, sometimes there's go listen to music streamers. I kind of just who's ever on, like I'll just go to the front page and just see who streaming what, what's gone popular. I'm a big fan of esports, so if there's ever an esports event on, for like League of legends, Cusgo is my favorite for sure by far. I love watching cus go. I don't play the game at all. I played, you know, maybe a hundred matches total of CSGO in my life, probably less, but I love watching CSGO. The the commentators are great. The game is easy to watch. It's Super Fun. That's just a ton of fun to watch. But I've been playing a lot of call of duty war zone recently. That game is insanely fun. I love battle royals, so I've been playing a decent a bout of that. So I've been watching like if ever of there's downtime, just chilling, I'll turn on a war zone stream sometimes. Who've ever just had the top nick marks or someone and just watch a little bit of that. Sorry, you looking forward to Valoran then, all rant I've been playing it. I played a little bit. It's one of those games where it's the thing I I've been playing a little bit. I don't it's almost like I like the game but I don't want to play it because I don't have enough time to commit to get good at the game. So I don't want to play it. Where's something like war zone, which is like been my goto video game recently. You I don't have to commit a whole ton of time. I can get on, hit up the the coon squad, just play a couple of games. But like Valeran, it's it's a little bit more in depth of a game. If, if I time freeze up or if I want to start including it maybe into like you know, at the end of some streams, playing a little ballomor or something like that, I might start playing it again. But it's a ton of the Games, a ton of fun, super good game from what I've played. Just don't. I don't want to cook, I don't. I just a I basically just don't want to commit to because I can't comit enough time to it. Basically, yeah, I kind of feel the same way about Arett. Yeah, so I think we're about reaching the end here as all, the last thing I'll ask of you is there anything that you want to say to our viewers and listeners? It can be a shoutout, can be a piece of advice, whatever you got for us. Now is your time to shine. Get thanks for watching. Thanks you guys for having me. Keep watching, keep watching pokemon streams. I think I mean the one of the things, little things. Like I said, I want, you know, online pokemon Pizjo to live for ideally live forever, because I enjoy, you know, creating content in this space and I want to you. I want to be like a full time pokemon streamer the rest of my life. I could be. Obviously there are going to be some factors in that out of my control, but you know, people hanging out and supporting the game and watching the game and enjoying the game, you know, might bring about might be the the thing to bring about change. So You keep doing that, keep keep just having fun playing the game, watching the game and enjoying the game, for sure. So I think a shout out to pokemon. Yeah, awesome. Well, thank you so much, man. It was a pleasure having you. You're really cool guy. Thanks, guys, that's not me, you just shanking your change. Awesome. Well, thank you all for listening, just like as a little said, and we will catch you same time next week. Peace. Say Yeah, M.

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