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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 2, Episode 7 · 2 years ago

2-6. JW's Apocalyptic Man Bun

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are practicing good social distancing and hope you are to! Hear about TCGO meta and how they would improve the online system. Stay safe and healthy!

What is up everybody? Welcome back to tag team, the POKEMON Trading Card Games Premiere podcasting duo. My name is Riley Holbert and I'm joined by my good, good man Bun wearing friend JW Curry Wall Gw. How you doing today? They'd my power is growing. It's growing by the day. Yes, it is, as the Bun grows, so my power gross. That is insane. Honestly, I was a little afraid. The other day JW tweeted out a picture of a bunch of cut hair on the ground of his presumably of his house, and I was like, Oh man, and was fed up and had him cut it all off. But thank goodness, you're just tripping the edges, which is that was a primer right. It was just kind of like a little snake peek saying, Oh, what happened? You know, want to, you know, get the hype going right. You know, as all those as all those personalities do, they bring the hype and bring the excitement and I wanted people to be wondering, you know, what did JW do? Did he shave his chest? That's why all the hairs on the ground that he, you know, Shave off the Bun? That's why all the hairs on the ground, I mean people, people had to be curious. And and for sure, I am still here. Take if you're listening, and this. We're still in the man Bun Arc and if you're listening, then I still have it, don't you worry, and it's not going away anytime soon. Still, to have it last through two thousand and twenty, well, I don't know, man, to be honest, the time that I've dedicated to growing the man bun hasn't been a very good time, just in the world. You know, just maybe there's like some sort of correlation there. Yeah, like as my power grows, so does like the evil outside of my walls, kind of like there has to be a balance in all things. Exactly. So I'm getting too strong, and so is, you know, the world versus of evil, similarly and equally will get stronger. Exactly it is. It is like the force, like the Yin and the Yang of the world fall and my hair for a crazy so maybe it's like one war, major event occurs, they they have buten has to have be reevaluated. That's what I'm saying, Dude. I Like I don't think twenty, twenty can handle anything else. You're probably right. It's been a wild I guess it's absurd this last this last week, has felt like a month. I say, I feel like I'm coming back and I feel like I haven't done the cast in, you know, a long time. I just yeah, it's and so like time has just morphed in a way that it's all the same to me. Nothing really matters. Yeah, as I was like to say, you know, we last week we were talking about like going to Toronto or not because of covid nineteen. Now we've reached the point where every single event worldwide is canceled until mid May. And you know, people are on quarantine, all work all across the nation. All sorts of jobs are working from home now. Not a social businesses are closing. Like what is going odd? If it feels like it's been an eternity since we talked about Toronto, for sure. For sure, seven day for sure, and I mean you're seeing it too with us on the way we speak. Is that the the sentiment, the public sentiment has increased. You know, you would have said it a month ago, right, everything was normal, people were going about their day. The virus was just something that was happening on another side of the globe. And now we come to March eighteen and things are so, so different. Everyone very concerned, you know. I see it with my wife. She's I wouldn't say she's like overly nervous, but just there's like a tightening up where where she wasn't where. I've never really seen her this concerned about, you know, a world event. So right, it's amazing times that we're living in. Truly. Yeah, I remember the last day that I was in the office before beginning to work from home was Monday, and there's a lot of different places you can eat, like within the buildings that I work at. So I go down to it, like the Chinese place, and it was just surreal, you know, there was nobody there. There's this prepackaged food and like your tensils and stuff was all packaged in there, so you have to touch anything. And Yep, you couldn't go. There was no like checkout lines. You just had to report which you bought online because they didn't want anyone. While I'm acting with you, and sure if that just made me feel like actually just uncomfortable and freaked out. And Yeah, I think that's just but that's just a representive of a larger state that are in,...

...you know. And Yeah, it's been very odd. I haven't left my house beside or my apartment besides like taking out the trash in multiple days. That's just that's just the world we're living it now, I know, and I mean you look at a place like San Francisco, who I understand just went who that I just understand went under you know, citywide quarantine, which could happen certainly in other larger metropolitan areas? Oh, easily. Yeah, and I think ultimately it's I would just rather be over cautious than under cautious was something like this. So I think, I think you can't really overreact to something that clearly has long term, like deadly potential if left unchecked. So I think it's the right thing to do. But it is scary and it's it's unfamiliar, it's weird. Yeah, but so let's jump into like what that means for us as a podcast, what that means for us as pokemon players and so on and so forth. So, as I already mentioned, the pokemon season is almost fully canceled at this point. You know, we're going until may without an event skipping up basically a quarter and a half, and I mean that's monumental and of itself. You know, pre releases are getting canceled. I think like the official word about out. There's a pre releases for this next set, right Jaf. What do you think this is going to mean for like long term in the season? Do you think even the season will be finished out, or do you think pokemonls to reevaluate completely, like how they're going to approach the structure? Like what is going on at this point? It's really I'm not going to give my personal thought, but I mean there are some scenarios that could potentially play out. You know, one scenario that happens, and this is very optimistic, is like somebody in some country, you know, finds a cure or the disease gets, you know, quarantine to the point that it's not like a public health epidemic or whatever that looks like, and then the season finishes out. You know, we start playing in July and there's a world's and they cut back championship points. Okay, that's just like one hypothetical, right, that could and the other hypothetical, you know, that I see is that it just goes far too long. You know that the estimates to kind of look back at the season and reevaluate, you know, as all these arts organizations and gaming companies say, okay, we're going to cancel until May and you know, come back and look at things. I think there's a, you know, very, very real possibility that this epidemic and pandemic just spreads longer than the reevaluation time and that will just have no season left. Right. And at a certain point, like there's almost like a point of no return where you can't really write justifiably continue the season as a whole. Right, you know it like, I mean we have, we have played half or so of the season, but that's all is now, especially like, especially with the League Cup System we have now, you're not bound to playing the season for the whole year. Right. There could be someone who planned to grind out during quarter three and that's there. That's their season. You know, quarter three and four after season, and you know, once you started losing that and the bunch of people be upset because they've lost through opportunity to other people didn't, and it's just like that was a matter of timing, quick rision and that's it to write, because you have these giant I sees. You have, you know, special turn SPS, you have regionals and things that happen in certain areas that really are CP devoid, and so, you know, you look at a place like Europe and having the cancel their big tournament is just so incredibly important to a lot of players for them to just get those few points they need to get the world's invite. So, yeah, you're taking away these tournaments that they need. And how does that affect worlds? And should world's even happen? It's a lot to think about and I don't want to like make a prediction because anything can happen at this point. If if this last week taught us anything, it's that anything can happen. Anything can happen, and so the world just moving at such a rapid and frenzied pace right now that it feels very just silly to talk about this, but we should. I mean, you know, you got to have an escape, you got to have your hobbies and things like that. So what I what I would love to see as a world's you know that I would love that for multiple reasons, pokemon, but more importantly for humanity we have. If we have world, you know, scheduled goes on at the a lot of time, then that means that, you know, we've survived as a race and that w would be good. That would be nice for...

...sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I'm kind of with you. It's a it's definitely dangerous, I think, to even make predict not really dangerous, but it feels prettemptive to make predictions because really there's so many ways this can go down, like we could contain it really well, things could be cure things could go horribly wrong, and it's just it feels like we're not in the place where we could really say how things will develop. We can, we could give our best interpretation for various scenarios, but sure you know at that point, you know where we're shooting. Twenty, thirty million miles away, you know, light years away. And Right, it doesn't feel like fully fair to you guys for us to make those statements. So right, right, right, and it I mean and again people are being hopeful. I think the hopeful side of things is to is for pokemon to say, Hey, we're going to reevaluate. You know, that's very hopeful of them. Because just when you live it in the day to day it just feels I don't want to say I feel hopeless, because that's a little bit more dramatic than I want to say it. But it just feels like a really big situation that's totally out of my control. And if I put my hope in, you know, money, and if I put my hope in health and if I put my hope in you know people, then I'm going to be let down a lot. And so, you know, just it feels. It feels like such a such a big problem that, you know, it just has this has this weight to it that I would not just be surprised if, like all of two thousand and twenty is canceled. We just start again. Two Thousand and twenty starts again January, right, yeah, yeah, well, no, we start yet. Yeah, two thousand and twenty two. Know, we just restart January first of two thousand and twenty one and we call it, you know, two thousand and twenty and just Redo the whole year. But it just feels out of my control. I obviously it is, and it just feels like such a big problem that even in two months when we come back and rebout reevaluate. I just have this feeling that not much is going to change and that, you know, the whole year is going to be canceled, pokemon wise, right. So just again to stay firm on our stands from last week. Please, please, please, wash your hands, practice good social distancing, work from home if you can. Those are all the essential processes to making sure that we contain and flatten the curve and move forward, not only as small city population or as a state or a nation, but just the world as the whole is affected here. So please do practice everything that's being recommended to you. I promise it's not. It just some bad flu which see, well they and there you go. Riley, you're kind of coming at it. I mean I know you're not a health professional, but you're kind of coming at it with at least more health knowledge than I would have. Is there anything that you're seeing from within your company that either has you a little bit more on alert or that you're hearing from maybe hospitals that you're working with that is kind of pricking your ears up in terms of, Oh, this is very interesting, you know, or Oh, this is way more serious than I thought. I don't know. How much like. I'm at liberty to say, but I do know that a lot of hospitals are working together to figure out long term solutions and they're working with us to kind of figure out what the solutions might look like or how to map that path out to get to a solution. So we've been really hard at work with that and I know especially hospitals in California and Washington have been really on the ball with this kind of stuff. So, yeah, of course Riley works at a what would you describe epic as medical record software? Yeah, exactly, so has a little bit more of the inside track. But yeah, crazy times. We're here for you, though, guys. We will be here as long as we can, weekly Wednesdays. We're going to do our best, you know, it's all we can do right. So, Katy, what have you been doing like in this party period, like how even practicing good social distancing at home? What are even up to? I just haven't left my home, for better for worse. I just it's really not on a day to day aside from seeing the ridiculous like twitter feed or facebook posts, like, from the day to day, it hasn't really changed all that much. Like I've had a few gigs canceled, I've had a few auditions canceled. So that's like things that I in a future that I wouldn't be going to. But on a day to day level, like I stay home, I practice, I make reads, I stream, I you know, coach and all that stuff I do from home. So it's not like, you know, I don't go to work every day and then I can't do that anymore, like a lot of our listeners. But on the day to day that hasn't changed. It's just this like mental change. You know, I...

...found myself to be timeless, kind of sitting in a in a void, so to speak, of time. You know, it just feels like the whole world's on pause and it's kind of a strange feeling and I I've been giving myself a couple days to kind of snap out of that and I think I'm going to try to, you know, get get on top of some work that I do need to do tomorrow. But yeah, I've been able to just hang out with some church friends, you know, do some have some prayer time in the morning with my wife and my church family. I've been able to play some video games, do a little bit of reading and and I have been playing duets and stuff to pass the time. It's it's been really relaxed. That is nice. I am I could say that I m your team really hasn't truly changed all that much, besides the fact that now all my work it's contained in my apartment building. So yeah, like, I get by. I get by take an advantage of a lot of discounted delivery and stuff like that. For sure, Dominot it's half off all pieces. Oh my gosh, dude, it was crazy. That's sounding own nights. Yeah, but like, my thing is, like do you trust the delivery drivers? I think for the most part I trust the drivers because, like, the food is all I contained, you know, it's all in truckses or whatever. The chef's I probably also trust. I don't know. I don't want to think ill of anyone. And the first place, right, and some like at some point there's going to be half, some level of interaction, right, like even if you're going to the grocery store, like that's all that stuff is stocked by someone you know. So you can't live in paralyzing fear either. So I don't know. I have thought I have thought about like that exact question, though, like you know, what is the what is the line? But for like delivery versus, like you know, x y Z. I guess at the end of the day, I'm not too worried about me myself getting infected, but I don't want to spread to other people. So as long as I'm still practicing good distancing and moderating my health, I think that's what's most important, is making sure that it's contained more than a yeah, so, right, right. So you talked about the disruption of, you know, work. How about things like going to the gym? The Gym is impossible to go to. Yep, I'm a very nice gym that I'm a member of and they closed officially today, but I did not go since last Thursday. I even felt pretty stupid for going out Thursday at all. Sure, my apartment, Jim, is also closed, so I'm kind of like stuck doing stuff in my apartment, which obviously is not as effective, but I think like the health of the entire nation is more important than me getting like a good pump on my biceps. So yeah, yeah, you know, it's fine, it's yeah, it's definitely interesting to think about and just the way that you speak about it. To think about the virus as not a you know, not me us, to borrow from the Great Bernard, but it's not a it's not a single thing. So, like do I worry or do you worry about getting affected? No, not really. You know, we're young, relatively healthy, I mean, but it's like a collective. You know, thinking of yourself in the collective is something that is a little bit it can be countercultural to, you know, a significant number of people, right. Yeah, so I think, I think, yeah, just like having this collective mindset is really going to be what it gets us through there. And part of that as well, it's just like staying in your communities, like I've used a lot of discord in the past couple days. Stay in touch with all my friends from Ohio or further away, and, you know, we're all stuck at home together. So it's kind of like it's kind of like we're all just still hanging out, but right from different locations. And so right, like you're alluding to video games. I've playing a lot of like online games or like you know, do pictionary online. Has Been Really Fun. You're playing alto get Morse here. Give me your like desert island video games right now. So you know, hypothetically speaking, you know you're quarantined and you can't go outside and the only means of entertainment you have is a computer. What Video Games are you playing? Well, when animal crossing drops, I'll be playing a lot of that, okay, but for now I've been playing a lot of legal legends, tepy tactics, especially because the news of teeth by tactics is dropped. I've been playing like online pictionary, which has been really fun, but only in like the right doses. You know, you can't play that for hours, but you can play it for like one to two sure, and then ultimate chicken horse has been very fun. Of this. Well, it's like a platforming game where you can play stuff in the field, like mess with people. Okay, so that's been really...

...fun as well. It's just like, honestly, whatever, I'm kind of just open right now to trying you games, which is funny because I don't get a lot of chance to like game and the average week because, you know, just between commuting to work and going to gym and getting making dinner and coming home like that takes so much of my day that right time I got home and all like her compartmentalized. And Yeah, I time I get home is bedtime or just like tcg out for a little bit because I want to stay sharp, and then bedtime. Sure, so absolutely. Yeah, it's been like a little bit of a structure change for like how my life is approached right now. For sure. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, I have been playing. I have a PSTWO and that's my only game system. So don't gotta switch, don't gotta you know, xbox or whatever the kids are playing these days. Got A PSTWO. It's actually just been sitting on our on our counter for DVD's. So I was like, you know what, let me just use this thing to Frist attended. And I picked up a couple games from the store the other day and they were GTA by city and final fantasy ten. And we're talking a little bit before the cast just about those. And I haven't played in RPG like final fans or yeah, it's an RPG right, I don't even know the nomenclature. TURNVACE's country. So final fantasy, I haven't. I've played some final fantasy in the pass. I was telling you one, two and four are the ones that I played for Mobile, for the game boy advance and just getting back into it. I am hooked. The game is. It holds up really well. It came out in like two thousand and one and like the Cutscenes, I'm like yeah, you know, I believe it, like it's cinematically it looks very yeah, clean, it's the world, for sure. It just it holds up really well and like, obviously you know, it's pixelated in the graphics aren't like the best, but it's just I'm impressed. Every time I put it in. I'm like wow, they are telling a really deep story here, and I am only engaged, and that's not something that you know, I I I've had in a while because I just haven't played video games. I don't I'm not a video game player. Aside from each of a Gamer, I am a foe Gamer, a Fo Gamer. You kind of like adopted Gamer culture without really being much of a true Gamer. Yeah, I feel that exactly. Have you've been keeping up with the Johnson's and just like playing pokemon is, he's g Oh and all that kind of stuff? Yeah, for sure, for sure. I definitely have pokemon. Had will never really go away. I think it's always a good time to play it is. Yeah, there that that. You know. Obviously, when you're not preparing for a tournament then it takes a little bit of the lobster off of phcg Oh because there's no incentive really to do so. You know there's that, but it is still a fun game in my opinion. I like the format now more than I did the last format and just generally speaking, I would say it's an above average format of all the ones that I've played in. You know, my my time playing the game. So I'm having a good time with it. Yeah, I think this one that's pretty fun. I liked I like just play in a couple games online. So we got a couple questions actually about TCG Oh and both of the guards to playing it and how it might be update in the future. So the first question we got was the online Meta typically leans towards rogue decks or was very polarized towards certain decks. Have you noticed anything recently with the online Meta and how it's being approached right now? One thing that I've been seeing. Yeah, you're saying it's kind of polarizing. I've just been seeing a lot of just the best deck and format. I've been seeing a lot as ascan ATP. That just seems like I almost can guarantee that if I play five games, I'm going to play at least two games against that deck. It just seems like it's everywhere really strong. I haven't really seen a ton of me too. I think that just doesn't seem like the the ladder deck of choice. If you're trying to fill out the ladder and that's like you're only reason for playing the game, then I feel like Mewtwo is maybe not your best choice because the game is usually drag on a little bit. You know, with a deck like Zay Zaan ATP you can really Fort Zausci and whatever. You can really force the game to last into like four or five turns and you know pretty quickly whether or not you know you have a great shot to win the game right, so you can just always concede or something if you're if your hand is bad. Usually it's not with that deck but a deck like me to even to some extent, Malamar. The Games can drag on a little bit longer and that's not as conducive to you know, just finishing the ladder. So I haven't really seen those archetypes as much. For sure. I've been seen a lot of this dafan baby blound deck as well. Yeah, people love that yetting. I love it. I love that's fun. The best part is definitely the cranial lad just coming in...

...hot sniping, but the Cramer at, Oh yeah, dude, cramer and is like definitely pulling its weight as one of the most I don't even want to say underrated, but like one of the one of the better cards, I guess, from the from the new expansion. Like it's really, really cool. I love the Crameer at, especially in that and then with Beatle Cephalon deck, it's just like yeah, you know, why not like just cramer it? I'm saying, yeah, exactly, just take it, because everything is relied on Adnne. That's one of the things that I like about this format is that abilities are basically free range. We don't have things like power plant. You know that much, and so you know, play your player, Dedenne's, you know, and everyone does. Almost every single deck does. Now I will say the last time that I booted up Tcgo for fun, I played against a couple of green's ards, and I'm not going to lie that that actually doesn't seem like the worst deck right now because you get quick ball right which you didn't have in the past. That was like Green Zards, like worst nightmare is to open a hand that you couldn't get a volcanion into the active but now with quick ball you kind of alleviate having to like grab a cherish ball and a calm off of Greens. You know, remember it world format when you had to do that to try to get a vulcanyon out. Yeah, well, the worth it. You're just wouldn't you're just accepted. What a kind of getting out? Yeah, exactly, exactly, just like doing absurd things like that. And then, you know, like we're saying, just are like I was saying, there's not a lot of power plant, but this deck can really really abuse it. And so you have a decent matchup against you know, me too. You have a decent matchup against ash an ATP for the soul fact that they have a hard time one shotting your rush is ards. If you can put something like, you know, giant what a giant charm or big charm or whatever, and so you know, has decent matchups against those two decks and that can get you pretty far in a lot of scenarious that's funny. So what do you typically playing on that on the ladder right now? What do I play on the ladder? I play Blis CEPHALON A lot. I find that deck to be really Cathartic because you just have so much draw we were talking about this too, maybe a week ago or something. It's hard to tell it where. Yeah, where we got right that we are talking about this like four years ago, don't you remember? So it feels like, honestly. But where it's just it's so fun to play for be strings and it's so fun to draw with or Choreo and then draw exactly, drawing through way cards over and and and then play inded in a and yeah, it's just fun to play that stuff. And it may not be the best that guy. I would put it at a solid tear to it's very good. It's very, very strong, but it does has some very glaring weaknesses and I just like that deck. I think it's it's just the best like chill deck for me to play. It has a little bit of thinking, as a little bit of lock involved and it has a lot of power. Yeah, I've really been liking playing a big Liss F on as well, just for almost the same reason. Like you drop three over and over, but now you have the negont gx to draw three one more time. So yeah, so that's like that's big for me. goode. So I really like that. This to fond x really fun. I just like kind of like just playing this format. It's kind of fun. I get to do a lot of different things I don't. It's opening it a little bit, I think, with something like Henry Brands me two list, that's a long way to that. That gets very fun. It's very cool. It's something that I want to give a little bit more time with because there's, you know, just clearly things that I'm missing a little bit with that deck, having only played at a handful of games. But yeah, very very cool deck, very interesting and just really goes to show that the format isn't a hundred percent solved. I think, you know, we tend to, just generally speaking as a community, say like the format is, you know, formats over. We found, you know, these two or three good decks and we've done it all. But you know, things like Henry Gran'slist like really show that there's a lot more to learn. Yeah, and it's cool because the Henry's list has like a surprisingly good ATP matchup as well as there any prism star really gets in there. It's it's cool. It's cool to see the thought process that went into that and like all the very unique gx's that went into it. But they're all clearly have a deliberate purpose and and use in that deck and I think Henry he's coming out with either a video or an article explaining like every choice that he made. Sure, so be on the lookout for that if you're interested. I don't know what appenue he's going to use to like publish that, but I'd be interested to hear some of his I maybe I maybe I saw an interview with with someone where he outlined it.

So I'm sure it's on Youtube. Yeah, I think it was like with the look, like the sable eyes, like the go yeah, yeah, surely not. Might be it again. I don't know for sure if that was like exactly what he's referencing when he said like more to come on it, but he's definitely like doing some stuff, so I would check it out. How he's a really, really smart dude, like he's clearly ahead of the curve on like these new two archetypes. So really cool. I mean, you see him. He went to what oc I see, I think, and brought just about that same deck and then, did you know, above average but didn't end up dayting. And so to see somebody kind of refine the deck a little bit, bring it back and win our regionals with it, that that's always very cool too. I kind of am more of the mindset that I tend to switch decks if I don't do well with it, or just switch decks like because I think the meadows going to be different. But it's really a testament to saying, Hey, I'm going to I'm going to take this idea that I know works and just run with it and see how far I can take it. Yeah, so congrats the Henry. You may be one of the last regional winners of the season. My goodness. Yeah, dude, it's funny. It's it's so funny. The last time that I want a regionals I missed worlds by three points, and so this year I also want a regionals and world's might not even happen. So I think it's just furst of me winning a regionals that I just never get to play in the world's it sounds like you're just generally a problem, like the man bone of peers and all the sudden stragedy strikes and like your world's invites just are cursed. Something going on. I mean, you're not wrong. The sentence just ends there. All Right, okay, next topic. It's funny, yeah, but honestly, if you like Pokemon, I would try and just keep up with ECGL, like try and keep your spirit for the game alive and like show people what's going on. I think it's a great time to get into the game actually, because Tcgo is going to be so lively. But that's also on us as a community to like bring it up and make sure people get involved. So I know there are some sets of the community that are going for kind of like these grass root tournaments, which is super, super cool. JIB and I lightly tossed around the idea of doing something ourselves to for that effect, but that's something you would be interested in, like, as a community of us, maybe taking us Saturday and just hosting a tournament that we be happy to at least consider the thought. I think that'd be something really fun for me, at least, Riley. I don't know if you know, definitely doing something like definitely. So, yeah, I would definitely love to like keep this community like alive and thriving, and not just the tag team community but also, you know, Pokemon as a whole and make sure that people have a chance to get involved and have fun. So if there are avenues that you think would be good for that, make sure to tweet that at us or DM US on twitter and we can try and Parse what what people are thinking and work through that. Speaking of Tcgo and keeping it lively. Another great question we got on our tweet asking for what we should talk about in light pokemon being canceled was the online system we have in Pokemon. And so, for the unfamiliar, the POKEMON trading card game online is far from perfect. In fact, it is very far from perfect. In fact it's closer to terrible than perfect. I think, well, I don't want to say it's like it, and I think it's in the middle. Now, you know, I think more reason, more results in the best. Nobody, as somebody who's come from, you know, like lack of the Dark Ages. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like a somebody. That's comfort. Sure, it's just it's miles miles. Yeah, I think is okay. Besides, like the bugs, it's just hard when you it's hard when you take tcg Oh and compare it to hearthstone, like or Comorder Aurin. Yeah, like that's really hard to do, because then you say, Oh, yes, now you see where Pokemon is lacking. But pokemon as a client, I think, is it needs more. I don't know, it's fine, it's fine. It does the job well there. There the client needs to know. Were all for sure, but, like you know, it serves its purpose well enough. Like I enjoy playing TCO and usually the bugs aren't game breaking, or at least they're on like random cards that don't matter. Some shops they're on like major guards that like greatly. That you can. Yeah, it's like a roller or like fighting, if you're about right, crazy stuff like that. Body Building Double Bells is insane. League, which for a while. Yes,...

...yeah, and there were some glitch I was seeing with me or something, where Andrew was yeah, the damage counters on it at the it shuffled back in the deck with the damage cautters and then it got pulled out of the deck and the still have the damage cautters. Yeah, yeah, I mean we and we. You know, Riley, you're obviously a little more opinionated in your hate, in your distaste. I don't know, I don't hate it. It's just okay, comically bad sometimes. Yeah, I don't. I just give the devs a little more credit than that, I say. You know what, they're trying their best, I think. Probably. What's what's the deal is, like they just don't have as many developers on the game, or they don't have right, but theyby devote said developers. You know, this isn't a trash the people are developing it currently, but like the team isn't large enough. I don't think. Yeah, probably, probably, as myself, I don't know, I mean my I mean this is the perfect time for people to like get into the game. So, like you would, you would have hoped that, you know, couple years ago they would have just seen kind of how online, you know, was going right. You would have hope that they would have seen kind of the trajectory of the online client just growing very massively, you just even with incremental improvements, and so you'd have hoped that a couple years ago. They could have done some things so that we're at magic arena, but that's not the case, and so we just have to be grateful for what we have. Right. Well, I don't know. I don't think you have to sit down and just take but yeah, you know, like you should provide feedback and give them avenue to improve and like let if you don't like. Okay, I agree. We storm the gates, all right, guys. Well, actually, maybe we just maybe. No, but we that's not good social distancing, so we can't do that. Oh, true, okay, we storm the gates one at a time, one man in, one man out. Okay, right, like, I think there's just so many things they could improve, and part of that's a low Dev like DEV team and low resources being devoted to that part of it. I think it's just like apathy towards like improving it because, you know, they kind of got what they want out of it and don't care to improve it. Right. I think like we need to improve both minds. It's like you should set up the kind of environment that magic has, where now there's games growing very rapidly and they have a lot of people interested in magic because they can play online like like Pokemon, doesn't really feel like a great place for new players to experience online for the most part, like some people do. But it's I think it's very small proportion. It's more so like a testing client for people who already play the game, you know, like magic arena is just a game that you play and people like it. Sure, sure, and it's also working and I think like tournaments like they have magic arena is a component of their overall tournament structure. Yeah, for sure, for sure, absolutely so. I guess like going into what I would like from TCG Oh, the client is one thing. I think there are some major things they can do the client. I think one thing I would really like is like a ranked, actual ladder system. I think pretty much everybody who plays pogon competitively would love to see that. There's obvious there's obviously some MMR that's like hidden, some sort of match taking system that we don't get to see, but having a visible Elo system that we could climb a ladder on besides just the versus points, I think would be insane. I would love that. I would, I would play so much. I would too like I would want to be the top. However many for said or that's hop top flayer like that would be amazing. would be so much. It would be on board. Like like I think, like my I would play pokemon probably twice as much as I know easily. Dude, like I have such a competitive nature to me and it's not really fulfilled on TCG O as is. But like having some sort of actual thing to reach for and get to, and you know, it doesn't even have to have like an amazing reward or anything, but having the existence of it would be insane. I would love that. So I think that's my number one ask, besides like no glitches. You know, that's like number one. Number two, I guess, it's like for sure some sort of rank system and then I think, beyond that, taking that the step further is finding a way to, you know, if we reach a point where there's usable at a mass level, because right now you can't use tcgos like a tournament system. You know, it's not in the state where you can do that. But if we ever were to reach it, I would love to see Tcgo integrated in the tournament structure in some sort of way, and that, I think, go hand in hand with having a rank system. Like in Harstone. You know, it's not. Obviously I think maybe a better compairs is magic, where they have x amount of players that get invited from their magic arena and they go to the world's from from their magic arena gameplay, whereas a pokemon there's no really equivalent.

And it's kind of sad because BGC has the has like these online tournaments they can get champ points from. Yeah, where there's no IING end and TCG, and I wasn't even going to say I mean pokemon go had what one person that was invited from playing the online game, like when they did that small tournament at world's last year, like they had. They also have, you know, somebody who proved themselves during, you know, the the whatever the matchmaking in the client was, that they were able to earn their way on to into that tournament at world so I mean it's like we're the only game that doesn't have that and that's that kind of online competitive component and it's it's unusual, it's weird. Yeah, but I think that they the first step to getting that, though, is getting a better client, you know, because it's not achievable with the game in its currentcy and I think part of the problem is, like the game was developed in two thousand and eleven. It was developed with a much simpler mindset, and so now we have all this like legacy code which is like bogging us down and causing all these weird things to happen, kind of like how people refer to like the alleged having all this Spaghetti Code because it was made by a bunch of people and like their basements in two thousand and ten, and now there's all these like horrible things that are still in there, but they're just like that's how it works now, you know. It's like, you know when some some some random guy as like a like a just a like a plate or something as one of his wheels and he's like, well, that's just how it works now. I can't get rid of the plate. Be Funny, you don't have say like it's kind of like that. Right, I don't think I'm play. It was exactly the thing I was going for, but like, you know, having a can be like the exhaust pipe or something, or just something that just totally is not a place. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know if you had anything you wanted to add that I know, I kind of went on a tie right there, but I just have a lot of passion for like playing pokemon. I'd love to like extend that to online. Of course, of course, I completely agree. I mean there would be a lot of problems. Well, there would be more problems, but there would be a lot of things that it would be solved if you made a rank ladder just there would be a lot of people that would be excited and happy and more people would be excited, I think, to play the game because there's that goal to reach for, and so that's just always going to be our biggest ask as a cast. So, but how to keep the game interesting outside of, you know, in what current system we have? That's something that we also want to talk about. I've seen people that have started their own kind of tournament systems. Online tournament system is going through channels like dis chord right, and we lightly are offens that earlier. Yeah, and facebook and like. So, but there are other ways to keep the game interesting, I think in terms of deck building, in terms of you know, just in terms of challenging yourself. I guess, like some people I've seen hold weekly league nights and since they can't meet on Tuesday's at the local game store. They'll host it over Phcg oh and just things like that. How do you the game interesting now that you, you know, are never going to go to another tournament for the next two months? Well, one thing I thought was really interesting, and I saw this because of Andrew Stream today, actually, and Pedro and tortive kind of come up with this sixty card challenge where you have a sixty unique cars, including energy cards, in your deck and you try to win as many games as possible with that. And see now like setting arbitrary restrictions on yourself and like your deck building. That's always down to me, like try to figure out ways to clot of situations. You know, I think you're probably will get bored if you try to play Zastion ATP on CCG Oh every single day for the next two months. Try that to me doesn't sound wildly entertaining. But trying to, you know, break the metagame in like alternative ways or fine, sort of all sorts of crazy wind conditions, like you know how so verbank the other week. There are those people try with the Walkoff homers Slowbro deck like that's just the kind of thing that would be fun to mess around with. You know, yeah, absolutely the best thing of all time. Sure, sure, so, what are some maybe formats that you could think of that? You know, you reference the Singleton deck building. What are other like formats that you could think of that would be interesting to try to, you know, win on peg, try to, you know, meet other people on Petaccio? Honestly, I think, like any rogue strategy is always refreshing, even if it's not like some sort of arbitrary deck restriction. There's people who try to just go for like insane wind streaks as well, kind of like referencing the old toward challenge, if you remember that from last year, two years ago, where you trying to get like a hundred wind streak or you like delete your account or something if you don't get it, something...

Insaye like that. Yeah, I think that's potentially a fun avenue. Or just and again let's putting like arbitrary restrictions on yourself, like, you know, instead of like maybe you take like the top x cards in the format and to say I can't play any of these. And so they sure can't play June or research and you can't play Marni and equip more money have to like figure out a way to build a good deck without any of those cards. I think there's all sorts of stuff you can do and really the world is your oyster. We have a fairly large card pool right now, especially if you go to to expand or legacy or just do unlimited decks with friends. I know one thing that my friends are doing a or discord the other week was they were going into deck wizard and just having it build decks and flying against each other with their deck wizard decks. Oh Yeah, I'm pretty fun. It was very entertaining and they were just like first they did fully random and then they started doing like they choose. They chose the Pokemon to build a deck around. They would choose like one GX POKEMON and how deckzard built around the GX pokemon. It was like completely absurd. It was very funny. That's what's up, Dude. Yeah, that's you know. I know in the tricky gym discord server is someone just brought this up in chat as well. They're going for like a alternate format tournament. So The sun and moon to cosmic eclipse block, so every Sunday Moon set kind of encapsulated in one tournament. That seems really cool. There's is all sorts of things that really are available to you and you shouldn't feel the need to just beach trapped in the same cycle of playing the same three decks and standard over and over like we hit. We have the freedom to do what you want, you know we it's not like our trying to win a regional right now or trying to have fun and keep the interesting. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So those are just some ideas of how to keep the game fresh and, you know well, I'm sure figure out a few more by next week. Yeah, I'm sure every week we'll have something new to us to say about what we did to keep it interesting over the last week. Yeah, exactly, that's funny. So I think that's about all we had on our docket for this week. So we'll open up the chat to questions right now. So we're interested in what you're doing with your time right now, practicing good and social distancing. How are you playing Pokemon, enjoying the series, or what else are you generally doing? Or what do you just want to hear from us? Be sure to drop it in the chat and we'll get to probably about four to five different questions before we sign off for the night, and we really appreciate all your viewership and we hope that everyone is staying healthy and taking this outbreak as seriously as it deserves to be taken. We obviously have an element of lightheartedness to the PODCAST, but we do think this is a super serious time and we hope that is never lost upon our listeners and viewers. Yeah, it was. It was something I was seeing on twitter where they were interviewing people down in Florida and, you know, people were like yeah, you know, I'm going out to the beach today because, you know, it's my spring break and like this whole virus like ruined my spring break, but I'm down here and I'm going to go out and hang out on the beach and like you know what, man, yeah, that's a little wild to me. Just just the response like that that we've seen from local and federal governments has been so, I think, impressive on the whole, like across the nation, and it seems to be pretty unified in the response of just like shut it down, you know, shut everything down. I'm really I'm I'm I'm hopeful about that. And then it's also like, Oh, yeah, this is pretty serious, you know. So, so take it, take it, don't take it lightly, don't take care. So and chat. We have Alex Garcia asking what do I think? What do I think is the best baby blade Meta babilion in the metal right now? For those of you who are uninformed, out SCARCIA is really awesome pokemon player and he has lately been bringing baby Blaides to regional tournaments. So I got the joy of playing baby blade in Collins Hill and honestly, that lefthanded bay blade that was very heavy really just destroyed everything. But I think whatever, yeah, the only based on weight, kind of. And shape. Yeah, and launch. So like position, okay, you know they okay, blades are insane, I gotta say. And but honestly, I think the Best Bay Blade is whatever one is in my hand, because I have a lot of baby blade power that kind of like surges into the blade as I charged up, and it's like a it's like a fortnight dance. Right, did W I could definitely see you like being into like tick tocks. Oh Yeah, oh, dude, would tick tock? I don't want to do tick tock, but I could see you being the kind of person who would do tick tocks. I get into Tick Tock. All Right,...

...chary Christ want if I should get into take now. We'll talk about this. We'll talk about this on the after dark stream. What should be my first I'm not like opposed to you get a good tick dock, because that would be funny. I see. So okay. So, Riley, here's my question to you. Is, if we're, you know, if we're stock, if we're quarantine for two, three months, four months, I don't know. I mean, who knows at this point? If we're we're quarantine for a long time, what new hobby or new skill are you going to try to pick up? That's a really good question. I don't know. I might try and like learn more songs than like my Ukulele or something. I play the Ukulelely to. That's so fun. Yeah, it's just a it's a very easy, like fun instrument, so very fun. or I might get more to the Harmonica Kit that you gave me for Christmas. Oh yes, that's right. It's actually fun. Perfect time to start learning yet. That would be really fun. We could do like we could record our own intro music just with Har Vonicas and tape, or, be said, baby soon. You clearly harmonica. There we go, you got it, were broken. So that is very funny. Also, look out, guys, in the near future we have something in the works here. will be posting it on our twitter's just just the cool we're being a little featurette. So look out, be on the lookout for that. We thank you, guys all so much for listening to the cast and supporting this cast with the views, with the downloads. Again, it's been really great and we hope that that continues, you know, even as we go into this kind of dull, this lull period of POKEMON trading card game. We just we thank you guys all so much. Can't say it enough how how happy we are to have the audience that we do. And Yeah, we just hope that we can provide good content for you that keeps you entertained and we're open always to more suggestions for that. Yeah, so I think what that would probably bring things to a close. Be sure to check us out on social media. I'm at smiles the trials, G W is at Real John Watter and the show is represented at ACTAC team Pokemon, and be sure to check out our most recent tweet, which ask for suggestions about what to do in this periods. If you have thoughts, just reply. It's that easy. Or if you want to keep it on the download, just DM US and we'll keep it secret until it goes live, till the time, until the time is right. So I think that's about it. JW is about to go live with his after dark stream for the live viewers. So be sure to give j w all the love that you give us as a team and we will catch you all next week. Hey,.

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