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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast
Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 1, Episode 2 · 2 years ago

2. The Knowledgeable Librarian

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Everybody is Riley. I just wanted togive heads up that we did have some technical difficulties episode, so ifthere's any change in audio quality or choppiness at any point, that is why Iedit it to invest my ability all that I'm certainly not perfect, but I stillthink the content of this episode is really awesome and definitely worthAlessen. So with that, let's just get into it all right. WHAT IS THAP everybodywelcome back to tag team featuring my good friend, JW Creewall, which is whatI would say if JW is here today he's actually in Miami this week. So insteadI brought ton a new guest, actually a local player from Columbus, Ohio,Chester Wakefield, who, unfortunately does not exist. So instead, I reachedout to my good friend, Aaron Palmer Wu will be joining us this week, Aaron howyou doing, I am doing great. How are you doing Reley? You know what everyday is the best day of your life. If you want it to be, and I'm having agood day today, so I'm having a good Dayan, she made achest or reference. Yeah Yeah chesteras really been making waves on socialmedia. I've actually made several of my group chets display their twitteraccounts to make sure they're, not chester, techester. That's amazing! That's incredible! Yeah!So we're coming off hot off of NAXUAL oregionals. You Ere, obviously featuresa commentator. There awesome work, I'm sure all of our listeners and viewerswere ecstatic to hear you out there. How was that weekend? How are you doingwhat's the week aside, fror that been like? How are you feeling coming intothis fodcast? Absolutely insane? Oh, my gosh never have. I thought that I would everbe asked to commentate it's not really something that I've ever as Chon interest in but, for example, the only experience wit streaming thatI have within, like my own personal life, is the time that I streamed clubPenguin Ye yeahee o. It was amazing. I want to do that again soon, but mypoint being that it's just not really something I've ever like pursued orthought about, but Danny Oh from DDG messaged meet on Monday,the Monday before the event and was like hey, you know t be fun for you inKnoxville and I was like. Oh don't worry, like I already told Damng likeif youall needed, help at the booth and I dropped like I'd be happy to helplike is. I genuinely thought that's what he wa Helpin out: Gbooth Yeah,Yeah Yeah, and I've done that in the past and like I had like I said, I hadtold Dan that I'd be down to do that and you know whatever but hewas like no,that's no whate. I'm asking I was wondering if you wanted to be acommentator and I had to be talked into it for sure I am someone who is veryinsecure. I don't really have a whole lot of experience with the game and, asI said, I didn't have an experience dreaming or casting or anything likethat, and so I definitely had to have my friends talk me into it, but theydid Riley being one of them, giving me that encouragement telling me that theywould help me prepare, which everybody did. Oh, my Gosh, I'm so so lucky tohave the friends that I do that really sat down and talked to me about it,because it was very nervous and I refuse to go back and watch t e the comments. I am not reallyinterested in hearing criticism from like random people, not that not thatit doesn't hold wey. I'm sure that there are people that have that were inthat chat that have criticism that is valid, but I've. So many you know,like I'm good friends with Kenny wisdom, Jeremy Jalann, like all these people,that hat literally do this all of the time yeah, and so I'm really moreinterested to hear their criticism and if I ever choose to do it again, Ithink but yeah I mean overallis Super Fun like I disliked it at first, just because itwas scary, but the more I got used to it. The more I was like. Oh, this isjust a fun conversation about Pokemon yeah and I think that's a really goodway to approach it. So for those of t us who are listening or watching anddon't know who you are coming into this, what is your background erand? How didyou stumble into this role? How have what is your history with Pokemon as awhole as a player? What I who is Aarin, so I am this random person and thatcame out of notwere and I feel like a lot of people, definitely feel that wayor like kind of notice that so I when I was twenty one, my boyfriendand I at the time decided that we wanted to learn how toplay pook MON cards. He had o Hadd some experience with Ugio and we both reallyliked to poke them on and we're like. Let's learn how to play, and so we justyou know we bought some theme. Dacks went to league and just started playingand truthflly at the time. It was kind ofmore of like a not serious thing for me, yeah and me,and that person broke up we're still totally cool like he was in Knoxville.I don't really know how he did, but I...

...saw him for e second and we talked, but you know no longer dating, but we bothl play, which I think is cool, and so I just kind of stumbled n into it.An adult hood and I feel, like that's kind of rare. I feel like a lot ofpeople like they're, like yeah. I've been playing since I was ten or youknow whatever, but me, and this Guy Wel, just wer like yeah, we're going tolearn how to play it at two thusn undred, twenty two, and so I've only been playing. I'm twentythree, an I've only been paying for about two years and I kind of became-and this sounds so vain. I promise is not from a place of vanity, but Ibecame kind of like well known or, like God, actions through making nemes ontwitter right. That's literally, that's literally like that. I never I've,never really done well. At an event. I've just made jokes about the game andthat's kind of my background and started just kind of talking to more peoplethrough twitter and just eventually I don't know, I don't know how ithappened. But here I am yeah. That's super awesome. It's funny. The time youjoin is about the time that twitters started to to reemerge a pokemon. Istarted about it when I was about twenty and twenty four now and twitter was not a thing at first,it was mostly verbank city was the only real group at the time and then all ofa sudden one day someone propose hey. We should all go to twitter and followeach other and sure sure enough. Everybody started treatingin and then,and then who knows, people are making nemes and eventually commentateregionals. Now Yeah Litt, that's that's exactly how it happened, which is is crazy. It's insane. I spent a lot of time actually like notto get all sappy or anything, but it actually means a lot to me, because Ispend a lot of time in a friend group back in two thousand and fifteenthrough like two thousand and seventeen. That would often tell me that I'm notfunny like all the time and to kind of stumble into this community wherepeople re, unlike known for being funny, is insane to me like it's so bust didthit does sound very busted and you have a very cool pokee ball MOG by theway. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry. I'm drinking to as a lot ofpeople noticed both chip and I were sick. This weekend, like coming downfrom from cold to meet much less serthernship. I hope he's doing welland O said took yesterday off to heel, but I'm still coughing. This is thelongest. A cough has been with me and so yeah. I just needed some tea, but Ifigured I'd be on Brand, oh for sure, and I'm sure that commentating wasreally helpful for that ailment thing. Oh totally, yeah I feel like I cameback worse. Oh it's! It's probably did right, like that's a lot of stress onthe an o, the vocal cavity. I guess you could say I talke too much to begin with. So it'sprobably about the same sure sure so. Obviously Naxthville happened. You werewatching from the commentators desk. You could see kind of a bird's eyefview how the regional was unfolding. I mean, I think, at a high level, peoplewere pretty prepared for how knoxill ended up turning out, and you canlisten to our previous two episodes in jd and I basically said that Pekaram orYoutu would win the tournament GW being a pkround fan and he being a Muttu Fanand sure enough. The final so speaker, umverses ve to so Jud, had a littlegrudgematsh going on where I was really written for Danny and GW really want toPek. It O win to prove me wrong, so I don't think anything really crazy.Unexpected happened when you were at the commentators de to did. Did you seeor watching at a high level, maybe walking around the room? Do you seeanything that just totally blew your mind or a strategy that you thought wasreally interesting? I think just being so invested in eachgame because yeah I do watch pokemon streams and yeah. I do play, but you know sample I'm sure most people, one of mybest friends and I've- never actually really watched him play pokemon otherthan like just glancing at a stream that he was on and to like see thosepeople like Azol and Danny and trying to think of somebody else Jimmy just AAll of these, like I guess,bigger names and Pokhem on these people that have a lot of accomplishmentsunder their belt. Yeah. To me, the weekend was nothing but what you'resaying just these, like? I things that I would have never thought to do interms of like sequencing yeah, I'm trying to think of a good specificexample. I'll have to come back to it, but therewas one moment that, like a spet like chip, especially pointed out, while wewere casting where he said, this is like a really smart move because ofthis and I'll have to come back to it.

But it was something that I rememberthinking. I would have never thought to do that and so just kind of being ableto be in that fromt seat so to speak. And, of course, a lot of it was notonly the players but my cocasters, like Scott and ship and roll and Sera thatwere pointing out specific things about the game that I wouldn't have caught,and maybe that's just like my lack of experience. But as far as like interesting do you mean like decks sureane takes maybe cards inclusions that you thought were particularlyinteresting. What was something that surprised you in Naxville? I guess I did not expect, and maybethis is my own ignorance, but I did not expect Hoopah from munified minds to beso played yeah, and I guess maybe that's like my own commonsense out of the window, but just something that I noticed it's just sucha busted tech yeah. It has a lot of utility and certainly a coupledifferent matchups. I that that's probably like such a boring take, Ifeel, like people are axspecting something more interesting. But that'sthe thing about this regional is like. There was 't a a whole lot of likecrazy stuff going on yeah. I mean, I think the craziness kind of as far asit extendit would probably be the Deesephelon Pitgy Deck, Oh yeah yeahand the fossil. Is he fossil deck? And I don't know if Ross was ever streened,but he has his own take on dark box. That's particularly no. They want to drops on stream. A lotof people were asking for it, of course, because they like wanted to see darkbox. It's just something different, and Imean there was one point where we streamed pitgy, like I think, twice ina row to twice an arow and people definitely were I mean I wouldn't wantto watch that. I didn't want to watch that and I had to cast it, but the we really wanted to put rawomstream. I just think it just didn't work with what was going on because, asI'm sure you know you have casting experience, you want to stream thosematches that are more storied and interesting to like the mass yeah. But yeah I mean yeah. Those are those aredefinitely like. Super Unconventional, like I don't think I expected to castfossils the entire the entire event, and so, of course, like I've playedcups where my opponent has played fossils, but specifically his list was a lot different than thestandard possiblist, and so we were like scrambling at the last minute onlike pokemon cards and limitless, and you know just various resourcesesearches and like understand what, because like of course, I had studiedall of the other, like you know me, Almar and everything like any possiblecard that couldpetel be played in that deck. That was one thing. I did a lotof preparation in anticipation for the event, but fossils was not a deck thatI studied at all. I don't think I can blame you. I mean I think Yoshi was theperson you played passes on stream. I don't know if it was streame to seentime it was yourshe yeah, it's certainly even among Popular Decks Yoo.She always has an interesting twist or a take that he will apfly to them. So Itotally understand I here through on the tr loop, absolutely yeah and justanother interesting thing like I pointed this out. I think while we werecasting, but I don't know if everybody had a chance to like watch the stream, but something I thinkis really interesting is the that whole. LIKE DDG testing group,we call them the DDG testing group but of you know like Jimmy's, on full graband Eah Pram is on that new team and he's also on to Grup, actually O he'sOha he's on full grippl e, saying yeah rigt. Whatever sorry there was a lot ofchange and I quite frankly I was not paying attention yeah, iergy kind ofexploded overnight. I was way too busy trying to study pokemon cards so that Ididn't look like a dummy but yeah. You know prams on full grup now and yeah a couple. Other people aren'tnecessarily on DDG, but we call them the DDG testing group. I don't know why but yeah so that whole group, they decided to playme, but they all played like different lists, which is like kind ofunconventional, and I feel, like a lot of people have their eyes on thoseplayers because you know obviously Danny won. The event was aone th the week before, or the the previous regional rather, and I just thought that was reallyinteresting, so like Danny Tech or Danny did not tech for guardion yeahbut like Jimmy did- and I thought that was like really interesting to know that obviously like there aredifferent components that go into...

...someone's record at an event like thematchups they hit, and all of that, and I think, like Danni, definitely gotlucky innessence that he didn't have to really deal with that, but I just thinkthit's really. I thought that was really interesting like that something so small could make sucha big difference totally. I mean this is something jw and I harp on all thetime is: What is the the balance between playingto consistently do well and playing to win the event? Vere Stil, like Pekram,is a deck that you can pick up and you can confidently say like. I will getpoints o this regional. If I'm playing peekrum right like you, can get fivewins playing PGAROAN. I hope you know like if, if you can'tsomething maybe went wrong or you know, there's maybe a glitch in your internalmatrix and you was werein able to get there on the FLIFP side like Moutudeck you, you can build it tobeat everything kind of like Jimmy, and that worked well for him. Jo, be stillfinished in the top. Thirty two, that's an excellent performance, that's not tosay yeah. I hope that didn't come off thatO. no I'm just clarifying my own Pirsolinei go through this. Whereas Danny you didn't didn't respectGardy. Basically, he said I'm not going to hit a guard EFOR and it worked out for him. He basically didnot hit a guard AFOR. He passed all the way through hit his only loss being theone on stream actually and like round two yeah. I know itwas really that one. Itwas really funny because Danny came to a group chat that I was inafter losing and it was a pretty bad loss. Not GOINGNA lie. It's like thistex sucks like you to is horrible. How could we ever play this and he washaing some doubts about the deck in the first place, so imagine like beingaround to on street and getting bodied and like man, everything that I was afraidof is coming to foitionin front of me, this, like its horrible but sure enoughto anywoud end up winning so many games in a row after that and end up with yeatournament, so yeah yeah, sorry doeokay well I'll go. I think you bring up. A good point islike what is the balance between being respectful with your tax versus maybe saying that I'm going to highrolethis event and not hit the matchups. I think, if you're going in to win theevent, you kind of wanted to say you're going to highroll it, because, ifyou're going to wait, you're probably going to be lucky anyway, it's usuallythe logic I like to say, but I know I'm really guilty of overteching. I don'tknow about you. I don't build my own list so yeah therewe go, I'm not quite an it's not like I'm, just not quite at that level, andso my thing is like I netdeck and I play, and sometimes I make my ownchanges, but really I just kind of talk about my problems with the deck andlike, like, I said, I'm really lucky to have so many friends that you know arereally good at this game that are like yeah. No, you should do that, but I'm not quite at the level to belike yeah, I'm gonna. I'M gonna put my own thoughts into it.I don't know, maybe that that probably makes me sound, really dumb, but no, Iactually honest. I actually think that's actually a good mentality to have right. I think sometimes people stigmatize theidea of taking someone else's work and they want to be able to put in theirown work and make their own deck, and that's fine. It's good practice, of course, to buildyour on decks, Andli work with them, but I mean in y Pero, like I think, I'mperfectly fine, a building deck butit, sometimes I'll, be able to leak up, andI'm just like Oh net tec top eight from the Treshoon, and you know what that itworks pretty well. For me, too, so, II zingdcing is filthy. It is very brokenand I'm so glad I didn't have to play Pokemon in an era where that was not athing. Right definitely got a lot easier in a modern era, as opposed to evenjust like six years ago. It would have been very difficult to Netdeck asefficiently as we can now. Yeaholein Listis, amazing, yeah, no Danny diddycalling me trash is pretty funny. I made a meam about that too, because before Atlantic City we talked,and he was like yeah, I think I'm playing new and then he got there andplayed pekerob. Obviously so did really well in Atlantic city got top eight,but it's just kind of interesting that hechanged his mind so, like you know, he was so excited to play me beforeAtlantic City and, like totally change his mind, so called the deck trash longafter but yeah. I think that it's pretty interesting that he justkind of full, sent it and was like yeah, I'm Goinna, not teck for anything andjust go for it. Anyone yeah it's crazy. It's insane yeah, definitely an awesomeshowing congrats to Daniel Tavilla for an awesome, rrigional championship andas well huge congrats to all the people we finished in Typebat reallyfantastically stacked top aid at that...

...tournament. I don't think I've ever seen. Quite the the the level of player to that degree.So really awesome event looks like we're having some connectiondifficulties, but in the meantime something I wanted to talk about was the commentary process and what that is like Hob, I have notcommentated the regional level. I've commentated only at a more local level,some full grup events, the LEA cups NBO, so will Aaron, is getting situatiedI'll reach into that a little bit. So to me, I think commentating isactually really fun, maybe even more fun than playing. Sometimes I don'tit's like hard for me to balance the idea of whether I want to play or wantto commentate, and I think for me the thing that keeps you playing is justthe fact th. I I love beating people, that's like the only thing bargain madefrom this being full tame commentator me textrarbacco Fik, but then on the FLIFP side you know accommentating is sofulfilling it's really really cool and you get to view the game from adifferent Lens right when you're playing you have to think of it in acertain way. All your plays are calculated, but it's also really easy to miss stuff.In my opinion, whereas when you're commentating, you see stuff at thisbird's eye view, and you are kind of getting an overlookas how a game is progressing on a high level, you get an idea of both playershands and that's really fun to me. Incredibly. So so I don't know what the what the rightbalance is. I'm trying to figure out myself as to whether or not commetating or playing is more fun orwhat I want to pursue long term. JB brings up an interesting point in chat,though I totally agree, though, there's no const consequences for misplaying,at least when you're commentating, you can kind of you can give a wrongopinion, but usually they'll be a cocaster to like bring you back, butI'm curious what made it enjoyable or maybe not enjoyable for you and if you could go back, would you do itagain, all sort whatever takes you have now it's the time to lay hem, so my favorite part about it was just being part of that process of you know. Typically, I'm the one sitting at home watching the Streem,because I don't really go to a whole lot of regionals. I don't go to everysingle regional and I'm always so impressed with the quality and care that goes into each stream, yeahand being part of that process and being behind the scenes, was so cooland being part of the process of picking really good matches that peoplewanted to watch was really cool as well, because it's really just such an opportunity for not only peopleat home, but people watching the event to experience the game and really have that perspective. Like you were talkingabout being able to see both players hands being able to see the board stateand it's entirety instead of like just walking behind, I think before. So I had off round oneand on day one. We only had three people casting, and there were, ofcourse, if you can't tell a lot of changes made to this tream and theproduction very last minute and to nobody's fault is honestly just life.It happens and as a result, there are only three of usand we didn't really have anybody running things for us, and so webasically did everything ourselves and I think my least favorite part was justround one having Roun one off and walking around like making iphone notes.Ond like whateverone, was playing and and being like. Okay, this person.I know this person's name they're playing this yeah. This Personan, youknow, of course, like I knew what my friends were playing, so that was easy,but like walking around and just like standing behind. I think there is amoment where I was standing behind Alex Shamanski and I wasn't sure when he wasplaying so I like linged her lingered for a moment, and he like looked behindhim and I definitely feel like I was weirding him out just like standingbehind him. I felt like I was so in the way, and so that was definitely justlike awkward and stressful and then goinginto the first reulnd that I casted I'm...

...so not proud. If anyone is my friend,they will never watch that it was the game where the only game that Dany lost on streamand it was cool because I got to like cast my friend yeah, and so that waslike a little bit more comfortable for me, but I was still sort of awkward andnot really sure what to say and then, throughout the event I kind of learned.Oh, I can give cute little anecdotes about players and not have to be sorigid right and so just to kind of conclude, I guess the negative part. Soto speak of it. I think the biggest thing for me wasjust being afraid to say the wrong thing and mess up, and so I left a lotof dead air and the more dead Ara. I left. The more I was like I'm nottalking, ind need to say something, but then I was like. I don't want to saysomething that like is incorrect or sounds dumb, and so I think that was much easier. When Iwas casting with like sake ship, who is just a God, he's just a Godat castinglike he's. So good at everybiting commentary, so goon tot provide incommentary not that, like, of course like Scott and my other coacastersweren't, but chip is just like on a whole nother level, like he's reallygood at filling that dead space and keeping the conversation going totallyand my role certainly for the Weekee was color commentary. I was not goingin there to do like in depth analysis about strategy and what each player wasdoing, but it was very anxiety and duzsink justbeing there and being like. I don't want to say something: that's incorrectthat either spreads misinformation. I am a libraryand, that's like the lastthing I want to do is spread misinformation and then also look stupid or make the stream look badand so kind of getting over. That hopso to speak was the hardest part, but themost fun part was being part of that process to like bring that bring the event home toother people and just have a comver like a cool conversation about who pokthem on like once, I started to really let go and get into it. It became not necessarilyeasier but more enjoyable and I had a lot of fun and I looke forward to eachround after that that I was like I got to. I got to do yeah yeah, I think that's a reallyfulfilling take. So you mentioned kind of the nerves andsome of the stuff that goes into that obviously you're, presenting on afairly large stage for a fairly large audience as well. What is if you couldgo back in time and give advice to yourself or if you could look tosomeone who's up and coming in the future and who's nervous, and youwanted to prepare them, what something that you would say to either yourselfor that person to kind of amp them up, give them the devibes that they need togo into to some situation like that, I would just say you know how to playPokemon and remember that and then one thing that I wish that Iwas thinking of and it's just when you get up there and you're. You knowyou're concerned, like you have the two things right. You don't want to saysomething wrong or stupid, and you want to fill as much dead air as possibleand keep the conversation going and the last thing you're thinking of is yourtypical, like public speaking tips, yeah, which is don't say, Um, don'tlike and there's there's one. That is just like unwatchable to me that oneround that I did with chip. That was just so bad and I feel so like I'm surethat most people didn't even notice, but it was just so bad and I wish that because I know not to do that. I youknow I have experience with podcasting and everything like that right and Iknow not to say '. I know not to say h, but just in the moment, when you're,when you're up there and you're tryed to do things and you're trying to makesure that you'r being entertaining and all o that that's like the last thing.That is on your mind, but I wish that it wasn't. And so those are the twothings I would say say you know you know how to play Pokem on you know. Most of these matchups don't feel the pressure of you know,comparing yourself to other players. That might know them better might havebetter takes and then also just remember, O R, your classic PublicSpeaking Tips Yeah. I am personally very guilty of the occasional to saythe least. I know when I listen back at least one of the podcast and likereally forreall right now. Defni irritates me for sure everyone'sguilty of it dout and I think it's louder to you than it is to the randomperson. Whois listening at all right- and I probably honestly in retrospect,should not be pointing out all these things that I did wrong because I knoweverybody after they watch. This is Goin to go straight to that round, toCSTREAM and they're going to go straight to any of the ones I've donewith chijust to like see how bad it is,...

...and it is pretty bad. So I'm sorry, Iremee that for anyone who wants to go back and watch those, no, I don't think you rine anyone'sexperience. Thank you Danny and Frady as well forthe support with your bits and your subscription in twitch. I reallyappreciate that guys and I also got an Emoi from Danny from his bit. So that'skind of cool. I don't know how that whole thing works right now, twitchesjust like I don't anything about Gota rate as well from Dustie locket. Thisis like snow wronng quite too much okay. So you gave your perspective onwhat you would tell someone who wants to get into commentating. Then I guess from there. Let's say you met someone experiencedand you wanted to get more involved or youwanted to get more experience yourself. How would you continue to hone thatcraft? Would you is there a way that you would practicegoing forward if you wanted to get continue to get better accommentatingor what' ways av you practiced already, and how would you recommend developingthose skills? So the first thing I think, is just aclassic ptcgo twitch dream. I think that that is something one of Sterra's.Huge strength is just the fact that you know going into because they ended upjoining us. I said they, as in Serr, an Rogl joined the team onday to and that's one thing you know she has a whole lot of experience withthis just playing and talking to people while she's playing and getting used tothat number one you're practicing multitasking and so you're streamingand you're doing other things and playing the game. A and you're alsohonestly working on being entertaining as well. And so, if I wanted tocontinue howning that craft, I would definitely start doing my own personal individualstreams for sure it's just the easiest way to get that practice it and I guess the second way, if y, U, ifyou're lucky enough, but you I mean you make you- can make your own look onthis one is like locals right. There are so many local shops like in Ka fullgrip and some I don't know if you sayrbut Mark Daley,he does his own like local streams and there are like super high quality andso just kind of getting used to those environments as well Ar finding thoseenvironments where you can. You know, sit down and be like hey mark.Can I join you for a game and cast with you and I feel like most of thosepeople will be like yeah, absolutely and there's so many people that'sbecoming an increasing trend and it's definitely doable like if you'reinterested in doing it at your locals. Like I know, I guarantee you if I wentto my local shop right now and I was likehey: Can I start streaming games here, they'd be like yeah, absolutely so yeah I mean it's good publicity for thestore of nothing else. To get there yeah exactly exactly to get their games.Streamed sounds like cramy. Lad Is markely backwards, so fun Fart, I'm like wow, okay, that's pretty nextlevel. Is it I don't know that's what I said. I musttink that's nonthing right, but actually we're going to have to cutthat out. ECAUSE the competitors can't be in the podcast I jus K. it's like we can't have mentioned tem.Any concaditors have to have to be nixe, so can't Lov that can't lose the brandloyalty got away shop, Foll, Grip Games, shopell group game, Shopl, Gae, tameshop, oer Games, Sean I'm expecting a check in the mailfor that by the way. So that's kind of an interest. That's alot of interesting takes on commentary. I think you have a really nuance toview of it and just in general I want to say that I think your perspective onCammentary with commentary. Sorry out what, as that was particularlyinteresting. I think you did a really good job as well of being inclusive tonewer players might be watching for the first time making sure they have a goodperspective of. What's going on in the game. I notice multiple times over thecourse of the both days that you would say things to make sure people whoweren't as familiar with he competitive seam Orcludin, it's. So what was goingon so, I think, that's also a really important thing to especially at aregional level where there's high viewership to include so pretty there's parts iit, there's somany basic things that I feel like get skipped over like, for example, there is one game, and Idon't quite remember which one it was where the person who was in the lead or theperson who won game, one was not in the lead game to but game one had gone onso long and of course you have that condition where, if the F one personone game one- and there is no resolution to game to obviously theperson who one gave one wins, but I feel like the average player likewouldn't know that, and so that was...

...definitely one of my goals going in tothe weekend was just like pointing out, and it might have seemed obvious to alot of people that were more experienced watching the chat. But thatwas something that was really important to me because, as someone who is anewer player and someone who thinks that our game should be super inclusiveand encouraging two new players, there's so much, I don't want to sayanimosity, but there's a lot of bad behavior. I would say when it comesto new players like you'll, see someone that posted one of the facebook groupsand they're like hey, I'm new and they have yeah. I guess like a basicquestion or something that is you know had been asked prior to that post, butthey are a new player and we should definitely like welcome them and treatthem treat them well, and that's just my own, like personal philosophy forsure, and I think I think we should treat Pi player as well, and I thinkthat things like streams- and you know videos, events whatever is how peopleget introduced in the game. One of my my first ever sanction event was aregional championship and I think that's not an uncommon reality for alot of people awesome. So I think that's a that's apretty hefty hepty. I guess suite of content that you can view on commentarynow, so I think we can transition into kind of our next set of ideas, and Ithink we can keep this particular one brief, but I'm interested this form iskind of dying. It's on the way out. We don't have to talk a lot about theformat itself. I don't know if there's a deck that you would play if you HAVlocals, you can feel free to shout that out. But what would you do with thistime frame right at the end of every format, we have a couple weeks wherethere's like nothing really going on cops are basically off for the mostpart. There might be some Chaetis here and there do you prepare for the nextregionals. Do you get ready for that immediately? Do you just grind it outin this format, with your friends on Tcgo, you just switch to a different formatentirely. Do you cube what's what's the best way to take advantage of this timeas a lover of Pokemon? I just so. I love weekly tournaments,like even ones that aren't sanctioned. I think those like ar are just so coolbecause people just play whatever like it's so wild. I spent a lot of time sofor those of you don't know, I live in Mississippi right now, not originallyfrom here trying to change that. But it iscurrently my situation and we don't really have a whole lot of shops. Wedon't have a lot of places to play and we especially don't have a lot of shopsthat are, you know, have cups. We have a lot of chops that are just chilling and like they have they have.They may have like a pokemmon league, but it's not one that holds sanctionevents, and so last year, probably between like the beginning, like January, untillike winter of last year, I spent a lot of time in starkfold Mississippi, whichis where MSSISSIPPI state is. That's really it's only relevance, but I spent a lot of time there and I wouldgo to a shop that was about an hour away and we were just play these weeklytournaments and they weren't sanctioned or anything but there's so much fun andlike. I think that anytime, that you play it,makes you a better player. So, even though this format is like dead, so tospeak, or it's about to change, or you knowyou're going to events that aren't necessarily sanctioned because there'snot a whole lot of cups during this time period, I think that still likecontinuing to play, but also being in an environment not just on Tcgo butlike with other players and other people, I think, is really good foranybody, and I mean, if you don't enjoy goinginto Pokomon tournamens. I don't know why you play Pokemon, even if they're,if EU, en, if you're not getting points or anything like that, I like I just enjoy playing, I don'tcow like winner lose, and maybe that's just like my attitude, but that'salways how I've been like. I usually like my typical move is like three fourat Oregional and then I like drop ind. I just go, have fun with my friends andwhether that happens, or I date Tou or anything crazy, like that. I still makethe best of the situation and have fun, and I think that, even in this timeperiod like just continuing your hobby is the mostimportant part, whether you cube or go to random unsanction tournaments. I think th is a good use of time. YeahI mean, at the end of the day we're playing this game that fun right. Icertainly hope yeah playing it just for the money. Thers, really there's better uses ofyour time, if you're only trying to get money. We all play this game because welove it. I certainly love it and you'll catch me playing all the time I meanwhen I was in college. I just have a tablet and be playing TCJALL DA. It waspretty crazy, an maybe a little...

...gregious. If you ask ony professors, mypersonal take on dead formats. Is I like to kind of flextout in different ways. I like to I like to play a cubes I like to messaround in Tcgo with, like random, expanded decks, even if it's not arelevant format or my personal favorite actually is ojust play. Control Nexi get on the EG letter. I think I think it's fun to I findmyself. It's such a black hole like you start it, and then you just likecontinue and then all of a sudden, it's like two am and you're like man. I aman adult who has to go to work tomorrow. It just sucks you in I that's whythat's my biggest difficulty yeah pretty interesting, yeah y personal petdeck that I would just play the crap out of a while ago. Was it like a Zark,handlock deck and expanded, and it was just like 's like thot that good it wasokay. It was okay, but it was like an elaborate Combo and it was just liketrying to assemble that every single game. It was not like the delinquintexodia thing, it was an a ranger, bas deck and it was really fun to Gri Ana semble th thatagainst the clock yeah so anyway, looping back though, to some real discussion. Excuse me, I think, there's two differentdirections: we can. We can go right now and you can you can. Let me know whatyou prefer is bw and I have talked a lot about getting the perspective of afemale player and what that's like and what the kind of like genderdifferences an experience is, if you're willing to speak to that. Ithink that would be an awesome take and I think they'd be really cool toinclude for people out there to listen to it's. My favorite thing to talkabout at least I feel like a lot of peoplethink it is it's just because I talk about a littlelot because it is. It is a thing I will profice it bysaying that ever since the Edi policy came out, Ihave personally seen a huge change and I don't know really, if that's just our communitymoving forward, if it has anything to do with the DI policy, but I reallyhaven't had like a hugely weird experience and pok hem on in a reallylong time, yeah, which I think is great. I think that's amazing news, of course,like watch, I'm ging to go to the next regional and it's going to be terrible,but it's just it's been. It's been a lotbetter, although of course, a couple of weeks ago I posted the results of Elik Cup and half of cut where women, which islike personal yeah yeah. I thought that was so cool. I was one of them like is.It was a big deal for me because I don't really you know, like I said Idon't really have a lot of accomplishments under my belt, and sothat was really cool for me and the girl that won because, yes, agirl won and the girl that on it, was her first leak up when it washer first time making cut. That might not be real. I don't want to. I don'twant to claim that if I don't know that, but she actually went on to win thevery next cup that she played as well wow, which is awesome. Her name isAmanda Dixson she's. Definitely someone to look out for n making waves, yeahmways and just something that was really interesting. It was a leek up inLouisiana, but Andrew and Natalie were there, because they, it was out ofpokemon convention that they were invited to attend. Super Cool Awesomeweekend, love hanging out with them, but even Natalie was like I've. Neveryou know she's been playing for so long and she's like I've, never seen half ofcutby women, so it was so cool so anyway, getting getting into that. Iposted the results in Burbank and then, of course, you always have pretty muchthe same arguments, which is just basically like. Why do we have to point it out like?Why can't they just be players? And to that I say it's so important for other women that are starting offplaying girls like young girls, that have been playing and might feelldiscouraged, because the girl start dropping off like fliesafter a certain point yeah, and it's so important for them to see that I know for me, and you know not to put Natali too much inthe spot like, but for me, seeing Natalie make finals of collinszill wasa huge deal yeah, because for months I was the only girl at my league, not not just like juniors and se. No, Iwas the only girl and so to see that it is so cool, and...

I will just just going back to that core belief that representationmatters right, and I think that though there are anomalies where peoplehave really just obscenely weird experiences with guys in the game. Iknow I've had them as well. I think the most important thing thatwe need to focus on now is: is that representation and really just, of course gender- has nothing to dowith skill and that's very clear. But when girls do see these bigfinishes, we need to celebrate them and remark on what what a huge accomplishthat accomplishment. It is not only for girls but the community as a whole,totally yeah- and I you know I've gotten super involved in those threadsmyself- I'm not one to stay quiet when I get bothered by something. So Itotally agree with your perspective there and I don't want to attest toomuch to the the woman experience or like how that should be achieved, but Ithink representation is hugely important. I mean I distinctly rememberthis interview. I was listening to on the radio. It was the actress I don't. I don't watch oranges as newblack, but she played a character on Orangis new black and she was saying.Well, you know I didn't think I could make it as an actor. I didn't thinkthat was a real thing for me until I went to this show and he's a blackwoman, and I saw another person of color on the stage performing reallywell and she had a a similar body type is me and she behaved similar to me andshe told me that she went to Julieard and I was like wow. Someone like me cango to Juliard. I should apply to Juliar and she worked really hard Wen toJuliard didn't end up as a main roll and Weren just new black. So a representation does matter it'simportant to see people like you succeeding and knowing that you're notalone out there. I mean you know as fun as it is to say thatpeople are people or whatever I mean there are differences, and I think anknowledge them is important in some ways absolutely absolutely like. If youconsider just the fact that our world is about Fif, Fifty Giver Take Womenand Med. Yet t you know, our community is Tuch a smallpercentage of women yeah and so like. Does that not a like? Does that notmake you want to ask like why and a lot of people are like Wew, youknow they have all different kinds of reasons, but there have been many timeswhere, like I said, I've had that experience. That really weirdexperience that made me so uncomfortable and made me think. Isthis like worth being here, yeah and whether that be someone saying something you know sexes to me or someone saying something incrediblyobjectifying to me either of those experience really arewhat turns you away and I sai much of a little bit about likehow I got in the game and after me and the person I was talking aboutbroke up, I did take a little bit of a break, understandably so, and what gotme back in the game was actually Kenny. WISOM's article on six prizes. I forget the title a world of wonder. Iwant to say you know what I don't know af the top of my head. That's for sureyeah I want to say it was a world of wonders. A three article is still up onsix prizes: a Great Reed just encouraging people to do better, and Ireally don't see this topic as political. A lot of people want to sayit is a political topic. I don't see it that way, and I think that it is just something that you just have to ask yourself: why,wouldn't you want every single person within your community within your hobbyto feel comfortable and like they belong there? Absolutely absolutely. If you knowpokemon likes topride itself as being the Nice community, and so why would wenot want to extend that niceness to all sorts of people? Absolutely yeah, and it's just been I've seen a lot like you said: I'veonly been playing for about two years, but I've seen a lot myself and therehas been a lot of change, a lot of really positive change, in fact, andI'm not going to D dropt this person, obviously because I would just beinappropriate, but there 's someone that really rubs me the wrong way as a person I like there was some. I was complaining aboutsome sort of like thing that bordered on harassment that I was experiencingand this person told me to suck it up it like basically secit upand move on with my day, and of course...

...this is. This is a guy and can be avery prominent member of the community, and I was really upset by it, like,understandably so, but if you give people the opportunityto grow- and we have like these discussions, where we kind of just laiit out and be like this is these are the issues I actually. That person wasin a huge defect, an huge defense of the situation that happened withNatalia and really stuck up for her and helps lifted her voice on that matter and which I thought was huge, and Ithought to myself at first. Of course I had this Offir sthought, where I waslike Oh wow, what o hypocrite, but then, but then I took a step back and I waslike wow like that is actually really cool to see like I'm seeing thesepeople that used to maybe not care as much about this issue start tokind of come to their senses and say: Oh Wow, you know I can actually helpand improve this community that I'm in, and I actually hung out with t thatperson this weekend for the first time and they were so cool and I think it'sreally cool to see our community changing and growing, not that we don'tstill have a long way to go because, of course, really awful things happenevery day to women and just in general, there's always going to be people thatjust don't really get it. But I love. I love that I love seeingpeople grow and change yeah. I absolutely do as well, so we've takensteps in the right direction. POKOMON has implemented a diversity ininclusion policy, which is great at a organizational level whate of the stepsthat we need to take as a community as members of a community to make surethat we're continuing to make progress in the right direction. Do you have anythoughts on that yes kind of, as mentioned previously, lifting the voices of women celebratingtheir accomplishments and not just women, but like other people in thecommunity as well? I think that this conversation extends to just everyone in general, whether benew players, anything like that players that may not have the same resources thatothers do, and but just in specifically in the context of women, lifting their voices celebrating theiraccomplishments and really allowing them to bask in all of these. First, you knowthe first woman we ha first woman to do this. Kaia was the first female senior I've to wort thisperfectly yes, ses mo first female, and this and the senior division towinworld is huge. We should celebrate that. That should be something that weshould be pointing at right. I'm a huge CIO fan, so I love I I'm scared forhonestly, which is a great thing like she's, so she's so good like just sucha I hate to say I' machine, because that sounds kind of like dehumonizing,but you know she's, just o good at the game, and I look up to her. I feel likea lot of people, don't realize that you can look up to people that are youngerthan you, but I think she's, amazing and yeah, just all of these little thingsjust like really allowing them to bask in these first and and have thatspot light, and I think also just in Geeral like trying to keep thisconversation as positive as possible, but think about what you say to otherpeople and how it might affect them. I have a huge issue with people likespeculating who I'm dating, and it's like why. I should it matter and itdoesn't happen to the guy players like right. It doesn't. It doesn't happenlike nobody like sees their snapchat post of like some girl and they're likeare you dating that girl? It's like so it's so like weird to me, but I like it really bothers me becauseit's like for me- and this is something that I'veshared on my twitter and everything. For me, it's like it's incrediblydohumanizing to make me feel like I don't have worth tosomebody and they can't pay attention to me or be close with me or want tocelebrate my accomplishments and lift my voice unless they're gettingsomething in return M and that's incredibly upsetting to me, and so Ifeel, like that's a very extreme example of just a simple comment of.Did you come here with your boyfriend or if you know you travel like, I spent a lot of this summer. Isaa Williams isfrom Mississippi as well, and we spend a lot of of the summer traveling tocups together and people just like being like. Oh so, how long have youguys been dating? And it's like you know like we came her as friends likeyou, didn't ask my two guy friends that travel year together so like. Why wouldyou assume that about me, because I have my Iam, my own individual person,and I have my interest in this game and...

I came to compete. I did not comebecause my boyfriend corsed me into it. I did not come because I'm trying toimpress some Guyka because I'm a vallet player right and yeah. That's that's one thing and then some other comments as well likethere's just so many little things, jut think about the weight of your wordsand what you say and how it could potentially be discouraging to others,because you'd be surprised how much of the little stuff can really makesomeone feel small or invalidated. Absolutely especially, you know youmight not realize at the time, but little things add up, especially youknow: n different sources, little things coming from every direction, soI think that's a really awesome takecare and you prided a reallynuancedview of your perspective on the community and steps we can take to makesure we continue to improve it. Is there any other thoughts on thatparticular issue that you want to make sure get out there? I feel like I covered so much, and Ijust hope people know that it doesn't come from a place of like wanting to victimize a group of peoplebecause there's so many people, like so many girls in this game that can handlethemselves and I'm not speaking for them. You know everybody has their ownperspective on this, but, like just try to listen, you know, and I think that'sreally. The biggest thing is like when somebody else is having a problem likedon't talk over them, and I think that just one other thinglike this is something that I've experienced to and and something Ithink you 're being really great about on this particular podcast is likeletting girls speak for themselves. I know that it's like so many peoplehave the best of intentions and want to really be there and defend girls in thegame and like stand by their point, but allow us to be the ones to make themjust because it's really like really. We don't need anyone to speak for usand put words in our mouth and I find that sometimes the people who are attempted to speakfor us are like a lot more aggressive or maybe not have the same points thatwe would bank and I think that that comes into a huge personal philosophyof mine, which is just to like lift other people's voices rather than liketalk for them yeah. Definitely, I think that's a reallystrong philosophy. So that's our take on that issue. Ithink we're hitting about the appropriate amount of time so usuallyat the end. What we like to do is we like to open up questions to the chat?I don't know if you have it open, I guess you're using your fune right now.If you have it Openong your computer, using my phone, I'm sorry, but it'stotally good, I peoplequestions will come in I'll, read them off. In themeantime, though, while people are rainstorming orthinking up a real doozy for us, if you have some events coming up inthe coming weeks, I'll ask two questions of you. First, a teaches. Yourelate o question if you have some edvents COMIG up in the coming weeks,just in the standard, UNIFID mines format. What is the deck that you wouldtake to that at local event and on a more casual note, what is yourfavorite pokemon and why is it your favorite pocoon love that okay, so first question I amthe MAS small brain player in the world, I'm so small brain. I think that I'm a huge beliebertan like if you'recomfortable with the deck rate you're going to do better with it than makinglike the best medical possible right, otacking. Everything like knowingbecause cups are generally pretty unpredictable. I think- and I like you're not always going to beable to teck for everything that you're going to see there. So I think that being comfortable with thedeck goes a long way and so one deck that I'm incredibly comfortable with isbeakerum and Adam Bi pikerom. I'm a huge fan of like the list that John IngPlayed. I think. Obviously he is a big fan of it as well concerned. He broughtit all the way to finals. I think that that particular variant- I may change afew carts, but is just really good and really strong. It's clear that PeopeRom is still a huge contender as far as like the top decks go. I also really like Russa Greens, eer Yeah Greens variant,which I know like I like obviously is not the best deck, but I would play thatbefore I played a abilitiezard and just because, like I said, I'm supercomfortable with the deck and when it works, it really works. I told I toldDanny to play it ot a couple couple weekends ago and he said no, I'm notplaying that and played something else and that deck won thethat Saisa, it'sstill good yeah, and I so those are...

...just the two decks that I'm the mostcomfortable with and I switch between the two and it does pretty okay. For me,I think so, when you play Russhi Greens, do you prefer it to be a more healingoriented or do you like the recess Ha power plant thing? I like I, like thehealing version yeah, just because, like it like, I said when it works.Like you just get so far ahead like what is your opponent going to do, yeahno kidding it's pretty hard to Kay out a couple resheseards once tay, onceGreens get scouting cool. So then the second question: What is your favoritepocome on and why? I have a good sense of this answer, but I think the viewerswant to not. I love my kip. I really do it's brooted in nostalgia for me mostly, but also like he's just so dumblookinlike I feel like me as a focemon like I'm, definitely Mun KIP and, like I don't know, I think that it's anincredibly cute pokemon. I think that it's incredibly stront like Swat thoswopert line in generals, an incredibly strong Tokemon, and I just think it's Ijust think he's great he's so dumb like I have a couple of mud kips, just likechilling on my desk. You know very cute yeah. I love biket myself. Hewas Mik, go to starther and Gen three for sure. So you said it was nostalg.Is that because you started in Gen three or is that just like yourchildhood favorites, the first? The first game that I ever like actuallyplayed through because my first my first game was, I want to say, yellow yeah, but I didn't like I also yet like I wasborn okay, not to like it sound like a baby here, but I was born in ninety six,and so I was like a real, genuine baby that did not know what they were doingand so gen thre was around the time that, likeI, could actually like play through a game yeah to like understand it sototally yeah ialoealike wenty in the sameway cool. So we did get a couple. Questionscoming in here. First is the Alaskan hero and it's anything you're. LOOKINGFORWARD TO TESTING AND COSMIC ECLIFFS ARONANI hot takes on cosmic eclipse. I haven't looked at it. I just really for me I'm such a onetrack mind that I just I'm focusing on right now, a'd like inthe moment here doing what I need to do, and I don't know maybe I'd be a muchbetter player if I did test that stuff, but I just find getting obsessive aboutnew sets, though I think it's like really great for some players, they'reable to figure out what they need to do and what they need to buy in noSaradority on twitter. She is so like she always has like a bylistand it's actually usually pretty accurate Y. I like to follow those, andso that's a really great resourcehip you're looking for things to buy fromcosmic ECLIPS, because I think that every time she's done a bylist likethat, it's been like pretty helpful, but I kind of just like let it workitself out see what's getting hyped up after the set comes out and of course, there's always those cardsthat you know are going to be really good, but I don't think there's reallyanything in the set that I'm particularly like yes, yeah yeahcosiceclips is a little on the Downloa. I feel that for sure honestly, I justwant to test more inmen Youto. I love that DAC o filme. So I'm sorry, I don't know how topronounce your name. Otph LLC, I ask: How do you find a community of people?You can talk to you about the game. Even if you can't go to locals, do youhave a take on the AR? That is a really great question. So, first of all, youcan always talk to me IAM. I want to say, like just I pride myself, onm being friendly.It's definitely one of my character, treaits, I'm more proud of, and so I think that you have the testermeam going on right now, but my twirter is actually at dumb, underscorelibrarian and if you ever want to Dm me, I am always down to top. But twittertwitteras been huge for me because it's so easy to just like reply on there,and that has a really great community. But if you're looking for somethingkind of smaller, I do understand not being able to go to locals. For me, itseems that a lot of my locals are always scheduled on day, like the oneSaturday a month, I'm working, and so that's usually pretty difficult, but as far as like finding the thoselike niche communities, I don't know like there's there's so many likesmaller facebook groups out there, not just furbank and Hey Fante, but I'm ina pokemon group called pokemon battle. Girls and that's amazing. It's allgirls, it's a great community. It's...

...really fun! There's so many like nes groups likethat there's. I think now there's PTCG, heaven which is like the entathesis topctg hell, which is like I don't know if I would recommendjoining Hel to like during a like small Nich community, but people tat you have.It has definitely on that is more wholesome more on the wholesomeside. There's lots of means in there and you can talk to other players andit's a little bit smaller and condense than like, say, Hay, Fantean, furbankright, I don't o know if you know of any other facebook groups, Riley yeah, I don't know about really groups. Iactually made a lot of my friends just by kind of meeting them through onlinecommunities same not necessarily facebook itself, but I currently probably my best friends inthe game are Andrewand Adali and they were kind of my locals, but I also Ikind of just started messaging Andrew on facebook and we became really goodfriends. So you know you culd find people witshared interest pretty easily online these days. Since that's what I wouldrecommend, you don't need people locally physically next to you to enjoythe game for what it is and have a community around you. I personallydon't go to too many of my local things. I still considers myself relatively newo the community, even though I've been here for like a year now, almost I mostly keep in touch with people wholive further away so same. That's like the worst part aboutwil. Come on right, like you meet all these amazing people and you're like no.You have to live so far away from me. That's insane right, yeah and justsomething another thing I should know like not. Everybody is cool with likemessaging strangers, and that's just one thing to keep in mind. There are some bigger players that willanswer every single message and there are some that won't answer any and sojust just a fair warning. I think, like everybody's cool, with different stuff,yeah Fitermis, sometime Lik, you guy roll with Wor, with the punches, Isuppose the best way I can yeah when you're trying to meet peopleonline. So I think, there's two more questions that will get to today andthen we can sign it off. First is from Alex Hil team polyswag. What is thebest expanded lockdeck and why does it be term one as feon garbage? I don't know if you have a take on thiser and personally I don't know I a lot of people have really liked theYouTube hotchcro stuff. I have not tested any lockdecks an expanded. I'veonly tested the guard of Ordeck Alix. Hell knows I'm a big dummy, sohe's I'm pretty sure he's meaming, Oh yeah yeah, because I don't have like I don't havelike a take on expanded. I, like you- and I talked a little bit about this-like it's just, not really something like my locals. We don't really havelike a lot of expanin tournament and like just in general, is like I'm not veryexperienced, and so I don't really have like a huge hottake on this one, but yeah yeah spant axiss is really good Y, a ax.If you need to play something at a cup just play just play Guardin, but tohonestly it's filthy or I don't actually just don't play that play ourcheese andsteaf. That sounds fine and then the last question that wellget to today is from Leona local of mine. Actually, he says I have adaughter and want her to get into the game, but I'm nervous, and since it'smostly guys any advice, I don't know how old your daughter is. I know that especially like teens, and this is something that comesinto play for me, because I am a children's libraryand. I work with kids,your at eighteen, and so I'm like super protective of of kids. Teams usuallycan hold their own, but there's a lot of mixed ages with pokemon and so likeSakee is obviously a huge issue and then, of course like just like breakinginto that community when you feel like there's not a whole lot of peoplearound you that look like you quite frankly or likehave the same identities, and that you could find that common groundin and so there's going to be. A lot of intimidation- I know for me as an adultthere's a lot of intimidation and just feeling like you, can't really breakinto that community, and so that's just person foremost going to be a hugebump in the road and I'm sorry that it has to be that way. But as far asadvice goes for like getting her into the game and helping her feelcomfortable, we mentioned before aboutrepresentation put on put on Natali's...

...finals match put on Kaya's world win orwhat o her many, I see win and those are all available on youtubelike if you, Google, those those names. I can't spell it's a l lit lightneryeah, that's how you pronounce. It looks: Lirtner Yeah and Nat Ali Champag.If you just google, those names, put them into Youtube and show her likelook like they're like, even though you may not see girls in your locals.Here's a girl that plays that is really really good, and this could be you, andI think that that would be great to encourage her and then also likehonestly, when you go to Oregional there's so many more girls like I findthat locals are really the tough place and so that, as far as like finding that representation and commonground for other people with her, but also encouraging her, just like youknow the age old just because it seems like it's, aboy's club doesn't mean it has to be, and you could do anything that you wantto do totally. I would that's that's absolutely what I would tell her and ifyou want to like show her this podcast like. I would love that yeah I mean Aaron's, given a lot ofreally awesome. Takes this podcast so definitely feel free to let yourdaughter have a listen at that and as a clarification, she's seven if thatAsshe Sady ae specific, pint, yo o so seven year olds are Super Fun.Probably one of my favorite age groups to work with, like in general, at work because they're super they're stillhave that like excitement about everything, and so it's t e perfecttime to get her into the game, and so as far as seven year olds go, I I would say it's a little bit easier and like okay. Let me profise it by saying, likeit's, never easy really, but it's a little bit easer for the younger kids,because they don't really see those differences in each other, and so sheshould have really no issues getting into the game that way. But I think that, as she gets, older you'll see thoseissues that I was talking about, but I think yeah just like encouraging herbeing like yeah. There might be boys but you're, just as good as them, ifthat makes any sense or better or better yeah yeah. Why not? Why setlefor being is good, doesn't Botem, but kids, the kids are so innocent andsweet, and and really like, like seldom did they mention or like notice thosedifferences rather and yeah. That's awesome, well, cool. I thinkwe're reaching about the end of the podcast Aaron Thanko. You've been anawesome cohost today. Is there anything you'd like to shout out or just say as we wrap up today, you know so I'm looking to start my own like project like my ownpodcasting project, the one that I'm currently done doing is sadly ending,and so there's going to be more information out about that. So, ifanybody like wants to start a podcast wit, be, please turn a podcast with me,because I lo I could talk for days. You Cal, probably just take your w spot. Ifyou want it, I coald- probably I you Coul, probably just take w spot oh yeahyeah, who needs Jit, fw right flex, tadty righteous whom but yeah as far as like shoutouts. I want togive not not really I'm super proud of Dannykagrads on winning, and thank you guys for having me thanksthanks to JW for being in Miami and letting me fulfill my podcast meeds this week, awesome cool! Well,thank you Aaron for joining us and thank you to fullgrup Games forsponsoring the TAG team. PODCAST make sure to rate and review on Itunes aswell. Now that we are on the platform, it will help increase disability, fivestars if you loved it anless. If you didn't, I suppose, but hopefully youliked it and with that weall wrap up, everyone have a good night or if you're,listening at some other point in the day, have a good point that point inthe day- and I will see you all next week, peese.

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