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Season 4, Episode 36 · 7 months ago

4-36. Indy Trenches

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The boys are back and oh so ready for Indianapolis! This Brilliant Stars regional championship is on track to be the largest EVER!! Don't end up behind the curve, stop by!

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Yo, what is up? Guys? Welcome back to tag team, the POKEMON Trading Card Games Premiere podcasting duo. My name is Riley Howart, joined as always by my good friend and father to a beautiful young baby girl, MR JW Cree Wall. JW. How's it going today? It's going really well, Riley. How are you? I am doing splendiferous, my man. I'm taking off work on Friday, so this is like my you know, it's like my Thursday evening prepping for Friday type Vibe, you know. seriously. Yeah, so I'm feeling good, man. That's awesome. Wow, I am very jealous. Yeah, and I'll be spending that Friday driving to beautiful Indian Hepplis, Indiana. Hey, listen, for for as much hate as some midwestern cities get, I think Indianapolis was probably, you know, a top, I would say a top twenty, midwestern city. How many benise those cities are there? There even twenty? It's a top twenty midwestern city of at least a hundred and fiftyzero inhabitants, for sure. Man Definitely makes the top twenty list for me. No, actually, I know. I'm feeling good. I'm excited for the weekend and I'm just I'm feeling good, like I've been kind of like I'm hitting my stride again with some of my projects wrapped up at work, so I get to focus in on stuff that's, you know, actually making me driven and passionate, and things are going well. Thanks, are going well. That's great, dude, and it's really good. I'm very nervous about the tournament. I I don't know, how many points do you need? Riley here, like a hundred and fifty, way or something. I am a two hundred and nine. Two, N that nine will be the death of me. Yeah, okay, so I am forty six. Yeah, Oh, way, and I'm just like dreading, you know, making day too, but not making I don't know whatever it is. Top thirty two, I think, is what I need. No, it's like a top sixty four. Well, I granted that for few can fifty points. Yeak, fifty points, but I will say at tournaments this big, the day to is not congruent with top sixty four. Yeah, absolutely right. It's like definitely a grind. Right. You get to the day too and you're like, oh, I'm feeling really good about it, but there's over a thousand people signed up. Probably will hit around you one hundred, you know, you figure there will be some people that signed up that won't make it or whatever, but I figure about one hundred, maybetwo hundred. It's going to be huge tournament. It's going to be absolutely gigantic. It is by sign ups. It is currently the biggest regional of all time, which is insane to me in Covid in the post pandemic, middle of the pandemic kind of world. Yeah, you know that we're seeing such huge enthusiasm for the trading card game and you know, it's always been like those midwestern events are always typically very large. There's just a lot of a lot of tabletime gaming happens in the Midwest. Sure. Well, and it's centralized right. Think it's very stutical. So a lot of people and drive to it, as opposed to, you know, place like Salt Lake, where you pretty much have to fly if you're not already on the west coast and there's just more population, you know generally then west coast. I mean he's coast, obviously a lot of people, but you know then the west coast, you know that's just more spread out out there. Yeah, yeah, so there's gonna be a lot of people. It's going to be very exciting and I know that you and I both are both feel an anxious, yet excited to play pokemon trading cards in the states. What is your confidence level right I'm going into this? Yeah, going into this tournament. Just just kind of a you know, a number one through ten. What's your confidence level? Yeah, good question. I'm feeling like like a seven. I don't know. So how it's probably higher than you're guessing and I would say it's a little bit. I don't know. It's not like a seven that'll win the tournament, though it's like seven at all end up well, but I think it's like I feel really confident in my d game, game play right now. Sure, I've been playing so much unbelievable about a pokemon in the last month. Well, tell him about your weekend plan. Yeah, so you're training regimen by training. So last weekend I was chatting with with the guys, the boys, and you know we're trying to prep for indie obviously. So I put out there like Hey, I want to test a lot. We attested like basically every day over the last week and this week and like you know what, I'm going to...

...be a grinder, I'm going to take the deck. I'm going to take a couple of decks now. Will play thirty hours of Pokmon this weekend from Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And I actually did do that and it was kind say it made me feel like physically ill by the end of it. But yeah, I played a craftone on Friday when I got home from work and then I woke up on Saturday, I worked out in the morning and then play pokemon literally entire day and on Sunday I played pokemon little the entire day. That I mean not to be young again, to be a young bachelor again. Yeah, man, I'm like what two years? So yeah, that's that track. Yeah, a lot of POKMON and I already felt pretty sharp on my game play heading into that. Yeah, I just have so many reps with like all these different decks now I feel like I see the lines pretty well now. But what I where's actually going with this? I feel really good about my end game ability, but I think a lot of this tournament and a lot of any pokemon tournament, but I think this tournament in particular is going to come down to you, like your final choice as far as like what you bring right. These matchups go crazy, man, they really do. And you know one thing, I don't necessarily regret playing me for U, I see, but I will say me was a challenging choice because there's so much arcius dark in that matchup. was just so close in ways that were sometimes out of your control. As a mew player, you had a lot of agency over certain things, but you know, if you didn't draw your tablet or you with the boss Ko in a certain turn or whatever, you kind of would just lose the Archias, especially if you want second right. So that I didn't really like that about them. You deck was I felt like I had so many decisions I was making over the course of the turn. It was really satisfying. I felt good about the way I was playing it, but it just took like one with a game versus archias to lose to it right. And there's so much archias in the field that it just made the record very volatile and you saw that reflect for Andrew and Caleb and myself when we went to when we get to Europe, right. So I have that is kind of like way meet down right now is kind of the what do I bring and how do I make sure that I have the least amount of volatility possible? Right that's definitely a thing where it's like you're playing the field. For sure, obviously with any event that you go to, but an event, in an event this big, I mean, you're really just looking for, you know, general percentages. I feel like any time I go to a tournament and I'm like, Oh, I hope I don't see a lot of this matchup, or I hope I do see a lot of this matchup, going to make a deck choice based on that, I get bodied by the matchups where I just like never see that, you know, or or I always see it, you know, obviously, depending on which which way it goes, but it's just, you know, kind of playing the field is really important, as supposed to like this. You know, one matchup in particular is that's what I hope to hit all day. Like that's not going to make a good tournament run. Now you can't be too laser focused unless it's like a really overwhelmingly centralized Meta game, and we are certainly not in that right now. Even the most popular decks, you know, are share that space with other decks. Right, and I we talked about this before. I think it's really difficult define like one strategy that's consistently good against all of the top decks right now because they're just so varied in the way that they play the game. That's absolutely true. I'd like to flip that question. They're like, what is your confidence level at right now? I'm not like a I'm not like a five. Yeah, I would say I'm not. Allow us. I was guessing a for based on our free podcast talk. I almost said for I was like, I'm a little more confident than I for okay, yeah, you're give it off like four vibes for sure. Yeah, yeah, very, very downtrodden. Yeah, you know, five, I could go either way. I can swing either. Yeah, it's just I I don't feel particularly strong about my in game play. You know, if I had to choose a deck right now for the tournament, I would probably go with some variants of Ersiafu, but the problem with that is that there are just so many nuances to so many different matchups that I know a few of the core matchups, but I'd be worried about kind of the fringe matchups or anything rogue that I might encounter that, you know, has a strategy that I'm not, you know, particularly familiar with. So that's that's kind of where I'm at, and I just don't feel like my in Gameplay is like particularly strong or that it could be strong enough with Ersiafu through nine rounds of Swiss to like right get there when, at the end of the day, you know,...

I would still probably take it just because that's kind of, you know, my kind of deck that can, you know, have answers to everything, but they're such like razor thin answers and if you whiff a piece at any point, it's kind of hard to you know, recapture the momentum or, you know, making sure that you're making the right decisions off of the in tellions every single turn that you have. It is, you know, can be really daunting at times and I find myself in certain matchups just like scratch my head. I want to do it at points. So so what is it going to take for you to feel more confident, like what is your road to recovery there? I think it's just getting a few sets like confidence sets in, because at this point it's probably a little bit too late for me to like grind the Games. You know, I'm not going to be doing thirty hours between now and Saturday. That would be impressive if you did. That would be really impressive. But it's just like, you know, a couple of matchups maybe, you know, get the boys around. You know, okay, Hey, let's walk it's through and just get a couple of you know, maybe maybe S, and win a couple s and and just kind of, you know, have have that. I guess that mental confidence like Oh yeah, I can, I can do this, like I remember how to play the game and just like making stolid decisions in those in those situations. That makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, just getting maybe less quantity of time, but very focused time. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's just as, if not more, valuable. It's like really thinking critically about all the actions that you're taking and having someone to bounce that off of. You know, we talked many times in the cast about how important, like valuable testing is and kind of allying that right there. Yeah, absolutely. So let's talk then about you know, this event that's coming up and of course there are multitude events in nationally that'll be going on in this exact standard format. Will be focusing on the Indianapolis Regional Championship, but certainly I think many of these, you know, predictions and insights will apply to likely all of the events that are happening across the world this weekend. Sure, but let's start with indie though. Indie, we reference before, is going to be huge. Got Around one hundred people that are registered for TCG masters. That's insane, you know. That's how you hit like seventy eighty person day to set these events. Yes, yeah, which brings up a whole other can of worms of like should you id should you just play? Oh, for sure, because I mean, like, if you're going to win this tournament, there's like pretty much zero chance that if you go six to one that you have to go like six day your morning. What, six hundred and eighty to do that? Yeah, you have to go six hud eighty two, which is just like just on the numbers and like the way the the matchups are right now, to be as very challenge is pretty, pretty difficult. Yeah, especially if you were already squeak it at at six to fun one, of the odds you go six. So from there, right. Yeah, so it's tough so it's like, you know, if you're looking for points, which is like I'm. You know, I'm in that situation right. It's like I'm looking for points. So what I take that idea? If I'm six two in the last round? The answers probably, honestly, you know, because I don't have too many chances right. We're not doing any locals that we know of for the for the Facility for seeable future. So I got this tournament, potentially Milwaukee, and then the national tournament here in Columbus and that's about it. So, you know, for a guy like me, am I looking to take that idea in the last round if I'm six and two? Yeah, probably. For a guy that's has zero ZCP, it's their first year back or, you know, they didn't play in two thousand and nineteen or it's their first year playing competitively at all. Should they take the ID absolutely not. I would say if you want to win the tournament, your you know, at least seven in two heading in a day two. If not, you know, one, one or eight and one. I mean you need those points if you're going to make a top eight run at the end of it all. Yeah, I also depends like how many points you need, because you only need a handful. Like if you play it six in two and lose, to go six and three, you'll still get probably a sizeable chunk of CP, regional CP from that. Maybe not as much as you may have wanted, but EPCP. I I definitely like a little crushed in the soul because I'm that guy you're describing right like really play and regionals in two thousand and nineteen, any of them, and I all I went to like Collinsville. That was basically it, and now I'm trying to pick up the pieces right by I have some local finishes, because I want to like a bunch of of locals, like right at the start of the New Year in two thousand and twenty, and now really scrambling. Yeah, I hear you. Feels good, you'll be fine. We'll see. We'll see. But you know, if you're listening to this, that also preface, like CEP is...

...at the end. All Be Y'all. You know, have fun, enjoy the experience, winds of games, loose some games. You know, go there because you have a love of the game, not just because the CP is the your end goal. I don't think your world's invite in this season in particular, should be like your maker break as a player. This season was kind of, if not on, say written off. But it feels like they're kind of just trying to close out what was open and, yes, start fresh. It feels like the jar tickets been on the board a little too long and they're just looking for any criteria to kind of finish it up. Completed. Yeah, and then by exactly exactly that. So let's talk that about kind of the metagame and what these regionals this weekend are going to be looking like. So we're going to go through some of the most popular decks in the Metagame, will talk some considerations for each of those, what we might play, some differences and bills that people have been trying, and we'll go and kind of a ascending orders to starting with the least popular of the top five decks and rising to the most popular. But first, why don't we go through some honorable mentions? Yeah, absolutely. I have been trying swee coon a lot this week as something that just feels like it's on the fringe of being particularly good. You're taking, you know, pretty decent matchup into or food from from my experience, you know, just because they want to wide, wide scale their bench. And then you're taking, you know and an okay match up into mew, although they can get going very, very fast, which is pretty scary. And then you're just a basic energy deck. So you're going to beat, you know, whims. A coot archaeus is going to be a challenge, but you know, you're always in any game and you can always hit those you know kind of three, three, ten, hundred twenty numbers with your you know, with your with your with your bloody Colo. So so I was like with your Lombree, and you're not hitting three hundred and ten or three hundred and twenty with your Lombre, that's for sure, not with a Dang along. What the Heck, man? That's insane. Yeah, for sure. I actually think SPECON is, if weakon as a tournament, where it's well poised. Besides Salt Lake, it's probably this one. You know, you have to have a g to be careful about about avery either have an answer to it or play very tiptoe around it. But speaking seems like it's in a good place right now. The deck that I think is really interesting at the moment is syl be on, still be on. It occupies that niche of a big he next pokemon that chaos or food one hit but is not weak to dark, right, right, and it's really the only viable pokemon that has that exact niche, when Scott is obviously the other non dark week psychic attacker in the format, but it actually doesn't one shot or she foo aside from His v Star power or with a choice belt, both of which can be challenging to the pull off successfully in a game. Maybe not challenging is the right word, but they're there a tall order to consistently get going at the right times, so to speak. Sure, so sylvion is like yeah, I'm just going to go through the arch foo is. I do pretty okay damage math against a lot of other decks like the ARC, the baby archais before it of alls into a v Star gets slain by a Sylvan, and it can take a lot of interesting stuff. You can play it either it's like a rapid strike toolbox deck like the one that we saw in Germany, or you can play it as more of like an archis toolbox deck focused on like double turbos. So Sylvana's really cool. I don't think it. I think it struggles with consistency at times, and that's been the most consistent thing about the deck to when I've tested it is it struggles to maintain consistency. But if you can find a list it's really consistent. I think it's a good answer to Ersi Fu and if or she foo is certainly on the rise in the metagame. Yeah, definitely is definite point is. That's a great it's a great honorable mention, Riley. I know we had been trying some sylvian builds earlier last week. Ended up moving away from them just because we weren't particularly happy with the mew matchup. Right. There's no one prize dark pokemon that you can play from you you're relying on these two prizers or three prizers, namely the CROWBATV Max, or, sorry about that, namely the Crowback v Max or the the multrace glaring Mule Trace V. and you know,...

...meal can just straight up trade with that. Yeah, so so you know I can get tough right. Obviously you could play path of the peak if you wanted to. You know, maybe try to stick with the path of the peak. Marni play, but ultimately I wasn't particularly impressed with them. You matchup, and that's kind of why I moved off of the deck. Yeah, the deck also has like a vulnerability to path itself, and like a general philosophy that I kind of have in this format is you don't want to share a weak point with me. That's be like if your deck is week is very vulnerable to path, like Sylvian is, that's a bad thing because a lot of decks will be playing path as like the primary view answer and you get caught in the cross hairs. Same thing with like shadow rider of being weaked to dark right. It's like it's unfortunate for Sen though. Yeah, that's those are my gripes to still be on. But I think if you can, if you can snuff out the build, that, you know, kind of makes it a little more reliable and consistent. It's a really awesome pokemon. It's great. Any other honorable mention? Something of like Dr Ludon as a potential honorable mention. I think we can pretty much ride off single strike as a deck like Gangar and and Ersh food. Those are just not they're not in unfortunately. I think like one of the things that's kind of been. You know, we talked about getting caught the cross here's one of the things for single strike decks, particularly the ones that run hound doom, is that there's just avery being played in a few of these top decks. Right or Spoo Arkis can play in avery. You know Whimscott plays avery. That's just really harmful for the single strike deck. So can probably write that one off. I wouldn't be too worried about that. But Dur Ludon, you know, is a deck that you pioneered, Riley, and it is viable. I would not be shocked to see, you know, at least one or two, if not more, archies or Ludon players in day two. Any any thoughts coming from kind of like the the father of Diludon? Yeah, I think. I think you're a lot on. Is Probably in the best Meta game position it's been since the start of the format because there's a lot of decks that are use lying special energy. It hits like okay math against variety of decks. Drought on. The biggest problem is all has two, I would say. First, like, compared to some other archiest decks, it's just not as consistent and doesn't have that healing factor, so it can kind of lose the race against our the other archiest decks in time and then the the other problem is because it sort of lacks that consistency. Decks can kind of sneak around it right like the Ersha Foo deck can find key times to like punch you in the face and then chayll and then use the fighting energy to punch you in the face again and then use a multras fee to punch you in the face and you know that just gets overwhelming. Aly and a lot of matchups have little tricks like that that they've learned, especially over the course of the format, that people weren't as privy to when I prouded drought on. So I think it's a good deck. I would not be surprised to see a drought on in like day two or in day two contention. But it's not something I would feel comfortable taking because it's a deck that doesn't have enough draw to play tricks really. Sure you can't really get super tricky. You can try and fit a couple hyperpotions, but you know the odds of you hitting those at the right turns and are with enough energy attached. Energy and all that kind of it's just it's not super high, and that's really the best trick throughout on, has to be honest. It would be like Hyperpoh it when people try and multi hit Ko it. Sure that's Super Hot drout on, but I think I think it's a worthy honorable mention because, I mean when you when you play the TCG Ol out of, you know what we're talking about, like draught on the the out there. Yeah, it does, and and it's like you know you're taking S. I think generally you maybe have like a pretty solid matchup against Ershafu, but it's really one of those decks. I feel like if you're a dilute on player, you've probably been playing it for a while, right, so you're probably very familiar with its matchups and how to play each matchup and what to do in certain situations and you're probably able to kind of understand what matchups will be good and what you maybe can kind of teck into the deck to to perform well with it. So you know, if you're out there and you're saying, Hey, I'm going to relute on player, I'm taking that to Indie. Like we're not saying it's necessarily bad. Yeah, just again not in our top five, and I think we should we should get down with it. What do you think, Riley? Let's we can do it, man, so let's freak do it. Drop number five...

...and that's going to be rapid strike. Malamar. Malamar used to occupy the top three on these lists, so disappointing to see it fall down at number five, but I think that's really just do the hostility that the metagame is presented to it. You saw a lot of these orshi food bills, with the Yoga loot package doing well. We saw a lot of avery getting played in Europe, and so Malamar has had a little bit of a struggle achieving the same level of greatness that it saw back in Liverpool. That's that. It's still a very powerful deck. It's one of the few decks that has like consistent one shot potential on the format and it is just a it's a reliable one prize force in that way, if you can find ways to consistently play around avery, that Malmar is an excellent pick heading into the Indianapolis Regional Championship. Yeah, absolutely. I mean you think about, you know, the ultimate glass Canad deck. I think you're looking at Malamar. We've been saying that for a long time. But just to reiterate, you're taking decent matchups all the way on up. I would argue that mew is not particularly strong of a matchup. Some some people maybe think the opposite. I would say after after testing that match up a bit, you know you can obviously lay the or Choreo down. That makes a lot harder for the for the Malamar deck to to take those one hit chaos. They can attack with a couple of one prizers. It just you know, it gets a little Harry. I wouldn't necessarily say that. So you know it in my opinion, favorable for Malamark. But looking at the rest of the top decks, like you're talking about Ershafu, you know you're hitting for weakness and you're a one prizer. So if they go up with Er Shpoo, you're taking that knock out. If they try to do some like glary Multras, play like you're just going to outlast them with the one prizers that you have. You think about archaeus also. You know, if you can get those big one hit chaos, which is granted, pretty difficult, if they can attach a big charm, but if you can get those one hit chaos then you're you know, you're doing fine. You know, especially like I think about that matchup, if you can get that first big knockout, like right the the first one or two attacks that they get up their big Arcius, then you're totally fine. You're cruising because you take out their first main attacker. They probably only play one big charm and they're looking to get that on the first, you know, their first attacker, and so if you can knock that out then it'll be pretty smooth from there because they're not able to share and Syre not able to reuse that big charm and you can kind of mow through their field. So for the most part Malamar, that glass cannon like we talked about, but certainly a deck to watch out for. Here in Indianapolis now we have seen people continue to innovate on the Malamar concept. Just this week in late night thirty seven we saw Kaya from Norway bringing and interesting Malamar build. Played Fog Crystal at three count played some great balls, played escape, multiple escape ropes and a quick ball man I fee your rang Guroo. Just so much stuff going on here. And I think that actually has some of the answers to some of the tricks that people are playing, such as relying on you whipping knockout. Ther Rang Guru can help you clean some of that up more consistently or, you know, sticking up one prize is with you. You have multiple escape rope now to continue to push them out of the way or push the big Mow v Max out of the way that you can't Ko in favor of a one prizer gene's like that. You can. So I think that's a really cool build of Malmar. I would actually use that as a starting point if you're interested in looking at Malmar for Indie. Yeah, I think that's a great point right kind of realizing one thing that sticks out to me as like, oh, that's really neat and probably just the the way to go from here on out. The five energy seems completely fine to me because you know, if you play the ordinary rod, which you kind of have to in the Malamar deck for the Mirror, but if you play the Malama ordinary Rod, then you can get back those psychic energy. So you can have up to seven energy and since you're just attaching them and they're going to be played every turn and you're not necessarily looking for the spiral energy to shuffle back into the deck. With Malamars attack, you know there's no real reason to play more than two or three spiral energy because you'd rather just devote those spaces to other consistency cards in your deck. But I think, yeah, like you said, that the list that one the tournament this week, the late night tournament with three hundred players, really interesting. Brings a lot of new things to the Malamar deck and would certainly be one that I would look at heading into the weekends tournaments. Let's take a look at our number four, JW. Yeah, absolutely, number for the number four best deck, as is posited by the TAG team Pokemon podcast duo, in...

...rank by popularity to be fair. Well, okay, yeah, I feel though they you could argue there's a strong correlation. Number four is whimsiccott. Whimscott is a deck that I feel like, and you can correct me if I'm wrong on this one, Riley, it feels like content creators are kind of like step it, like tiptoeing around whims of coot right, because if if everyone hypes it up like Whimscott is the kind of like polarizing counter deck that just makes tournaments unbearable. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, it's it reminds me of there was a Garantina a number of years ago that had roughly the same attack where it did, yeah, chaos wheel, where you couldn't attach special energy, you couldn't attach tools, and I think it also did stadiums, which when Scott doesn't do, but the the same idea applied. Or it's just this you know, beefy counter deck that really made things hard on a lot of the top decks. It wasn't uncounterable and it and it really was like kind of like hard focused into beating the top decks and really struggled with a lot of the rogue strategies. But it was there and I certainly lost to it a number of times the tournaments. WHIMSICOTT is one of those same type of counter strategies that it just feels like people aren't you know, they don't want to talk about it like as being a threat, like because if you talk about it, then you know and you're playing, like I'm mew deck, for instance, right if you're like I really want to play you, like you're hoping that you're not running into whims cost every round in Indianapolis. So when Scott isn't. It's in an interesting spot in the metagame right now and yeah, it after frank took it to kind of that second place finish at U. See, it's a deck to to watch out for and I think the list can certainly be improved. So I would look at yeah, I would look at Whimscott is being one of the more popular ones in these tournaments this weekend. Yeah, I've heard it described when it's goot deck, as like the perfect deck if you don't know what to play heading into this tournament. Yeah, Finnigan Lynch did post that on twitter and I did definitely. They said that on the oncoming energy podcast as well and I, and I think you can say something, I agree with that. Like if you if you don't have a lot of reps, you're not really sure what to take for this tournament or just like not feeling confident in any particular pick for the exact reasons that you describe. Jw What wascot seems like a really solid option. Yeah, there's there's a lot of ways you can go wrong with the deck. Though, and just not her quite knowing how to play it optimally. I mean, you know, they're just little micro decisions. You know what you discard off the Bieberrell, you have some slots to play with Tex and certain things. So you know, it is one of those decks that it's not just a complete yeah, and especially when you use The v Star power die, I will say that, as well knowing which matchups to use it and, you know, not forgetting about the double turbo math and things like that. It's not a kickwalk by any means. But you know, yeah, if if you are going and you're you know, you maybe you're going last minute and you're trying to throw it together a deck you haven't really played that much, it's probably Winscott that Arem you. You know, I just don't see people picking up Arshi Food and going, Oh, yeah, I can play this deck, you know, flawlessly to great success. You know, that's deck you need practice with. Whinscott not as much. I mean if you're if you haven't played a time, your debate betwo on Scott in you for the love lay whom Scott, you'll you'll go away more winds that at this point. If you haven't like put in your hours to view, I would just strictly not recommend it. Well, I don't know of the other top five decks, right, so we're saying. I think argues is actually the easiest of the top decks besides himscot. Really I think our Kis is like super easy to play, to be honest. Okay, interesting, and I think people overrate it because star Earth is like a cool ability that lets you fluck the to but the two are almost always there's always one incredibly obvious card and then and the next one is as like it's whateverever, whatever, whatever, man, I'll take a second car. Yeah, like Diet, even some of the star wars is exactly that situation. And like, yeah, I'd Tellian his skill based. But Archie is plays pretty straightforward cards, right, you know you could pee. Yeah, compare your telly on grabs that archias deck to an Ershi food deck and it's the Oh no, for sure. Well, I'm saying, like Ershfoo, for sure. It's probably the hardest of our top I'm saying, if I had to rank difficulty, it'd be earth than you, then all of our then archias. Than was good. I think a way over a how hard archies is to play. Not to slam an ARCIS. There's I like Willi Arcis. To the point is was got's a salad...

...choice heading into this metagame. It's good like counter deck. It's biggest enemy is honestly itself. Yeah, in a lot of times. Yeah, absolutely, you know you can. You can break. You know you're not playing the the consistency that some of these other decks are. Obviously new has the genesteck package. Super Consistent. Archias is going to play their Inali online. Again, super consistent. You pluck out anything and then you get your starbirths for the turn Ersha Fu. You know you can say that it you know has some weekends. But you have this one prize strategy where you know your have the Italian. Obviously you know you're setting up your bench with the keep calling. That's pretty consistent. You can go in at the SNORE LAX like. That's pretty consistent as well, and then Malmars just kind of similar idea. With the Itali Online. You're picking out whatever you want. But Whim Scott, you're really you're really a nice it was talking about this a couple days ago and testing when we were looking at all these decks. It's like with Whimsicott you're very much beholden to your opening hand and if your opening hand is horrible, you're you know, you're you're you really don't have too much hope of getting back into the game, like we're covering from that, because there's not a great chance that opponent is going to Marny. You Right. I think of the decks that we're talking about right now that play Marni, like Archius might play a couple, but other than that, Muse not playing Marti for the most part. Ershpooz not playing Marni. Malamar's definitely not playing Marty. So you know, you're stuck with your hand out are yeah, you're stuck with your hand with Whim Scott. So yeah, that's kind of my warning. You know. It's like we should also talk about maybe why you shouldn't play some of these decks. Whim Scott. You know, you really shouldn't play this deck, you know, if you're not playing a list that you feel is consistently getting something going on first on the first turn of the game. Yeah, and I think above all else, the most important thing for what it's Scott Strategy is consistently executing it. You don't need a lot of tricks, you don't need a bag the bag of crazy stuff that you can pull off. You see, to do the same thing every game and hope that's enough. Yeah, absolutely, and it'd be tough, right, because there's a lot of things with whim Scott that you just cannot overcome. Right, because I don't want to Hart like too much on this because people that, you know, have been testing with Scott are like I've seen anybody play when Scott like kind of know where this is going. But there's you know, there's a lot of the like the rogue strategies, the lower tables, I would imagine, like are just going to be harder for whim Scott out and you can be really hard then to decks. You're yeah, it's going to be out. It's going to be really hard to overcome the like. Oh, one start as well in the tournament. You know, you just had the hope that you hit the right pocket of players, the right Metadex, and that's always going to be the issue with the counter dex is that if you don't hit the METADEX, it's going to be a really, really rough day because there's not a lot about when Scott you got the one turn that you could maybe take a one hit Koh, but for the most part you might not even be you know, two Hitcoing v Max's right, and there's no energy acceleration for the most part in the deck unless you're planning a run on or to. Yeah, it just it can get ugly. It's a great counter deck for the top but anything outside of that is really difficult. Absolutely. Let's take a look then, at some of those top decks that went Scott's looking to counter and starting with our number three deck by popularity heading into this tournament. It's going to be the or she fu dark deck. Or she fu is gotten a lot of attention in the weeks post EUI. See. Hopefully the reasoning is obvious, giving Gustavo's win and the insane prevalence of Urushifu in the top eight of this tournament. I mean or she fu obviously a phenomenal point choice for EU, I see, and just a really flexible, powerful strategy. You know, you can lean into that one prize angle, you can lean into rapid flow and people have been really trying to figure out how do I beat or she foo? You know what? The target has shifted in a way. Your Sheifu off of, I wouldn't say completely off of mew, you know as the most hated deck, but it's the deck that people are trying to deal with because they found that you have to think for it in a way that maybe you didn't previously. There's also some debate about how you play or she fu. Of course, everyone's sixty four earth feels like a little bit different. But you know, you've had the macro level like to you play the quick shooting Yoga loop package. You Played Multras v, you play multiple baby multris. Do you play one? There's so many like micro decisions that are going on and macro decisions when coming to build in this Ershi Foo list that people still don't seeven have completely clear answers to, even in the wake of Gustavo's win. Yeah, that's totally true. There's a lot of ways you can play the deck and that's kind of frustrating, you know, because you're trying to figure out, well, what what do I think is the best and then what are...

...the text that I think are going to fit in with what the projected metagame is going to be and there's just a lot to consider when you're choosing the last you know, two three cards in the Ershfoo deck. So really strong deck overall. Again, it would be my choice if I had to choose right this second. Thanks going obviously change, but Ersh who has the answers to everything, and you can certainly build it to have a little bit better answers in certain matchups. Yeah, so to kind of flip the script. And I also really like the Ershifoo deck. It's one of my favorites to play right now because you have so much flexibility in your options. But reasons you might not play it is Orshi Foo can sometimes stumble in certain matchups if it doesn't have a good core opening. You know, if you're not able to get multiple sabbles down or or any or you start the wrong to prizer can randomly lose you games and that can sometimes be frustrating. Another potential weakness of the Ershia food deck is Marnie's, especially repeated Marnie's and put you in a very difficult position. The orgifoo deck really relies on building up resources over the course of the game and certainly it can come back from a Marnie. Can even come back from multiple, but you will definitely if you're getting Marnie multiple times per game, you will have games that you lose because you just can't do anything meaningful with the four cards you have. It's very combo heavy deck. So now, granted, a lot of the decks that we're talking about today don't play like outs of Marney, but you know, it's something that they could consider kind of including is a way to deal with you as well. Right, yeah, that's a really good point. You know, me, you could certainly throw in a Marnie. I mean we're talking about repeated Marnie's right as being kind of the biggest counter, like on the three and the two prize turn, for for their foo player. Like you know, you want to get those Marnie's and in that part of the game, so im you could play a Marnie. That might be, you know enough, potentially. Obviously arcus and Talian can play up boards of for Marni's if they're playing too in their Basse list, and then a pal pad whim Scott is going to play like three Marni so that would be kind of your decks that would look to gain that advantage on Ershfoo. Another advantage that can be gained on Ershafu. I lost my train of thought where I was going with that. I was going to say like another man if I don't know. Yeah, I got there. There it is. So another another thing I was going to say about Er Shpoos, like the the manafee presence in in Arcius Italian right is like playing manifee. Maybe even done spars, maybe both, maybe even a hoop of V to try to counter these ershfood decks. And so you're going to lose a lot of the versatility of the gmax rap of flow that was present in prior tournaments because people weren't really considering Ershfuo as being a deck to really watch out for, and so your gmax Rapa flows are a lot less potent, I would say. As a result, I would potentially look at, you know, finding other attackers, like certainly you want to play the to Galarian moultrace. Certainly want to play, I, in my opinion, the Glarian moultrace V, just to have more attacking options, because you're not really in the current landscape, able to consistently gmax, rap of low, like you might have you know, a week, two, three weeks ago, I'll say. If you're worried about manifee, the baby Hoopa is a good answer to like quickly knock it out in the early stages. Is the game? Yeah, absolutely true. You know, you need to get the boss when you need it. You know, in those early stage of all, you've played a car that could find a trainer on demand. Couldn't be me. Let's talk that about number two ascending to the titans of the metagame here, number two coming in at number two. My most played by popularity will be New v Max. Mew v Max has kind of lost its place at the top of the of the metagame, but you know, it just has so many like things going against it. That said, it's still it's still like crisis objectively, like the best, like the best deck just just as a whole. Right, there's so many things going against it that you're kind of kind of drop it down. But like mew is the type of deck that can overcome at all to win the whole thing. Like it's not going to be surprising if we see AMW two three in top eight of Indianapolis it's just that good and you know you have to respect it. Yeah, I'm it's just it's a deck that you're never surprised to see do well, especially with folks who have put in the hours and have practiced you a lot now found the ways to kind of route those those matchups...

...that maybe people haven't really considered as as in depth or can't execute as consistently because they aren't, you know, sequencing in exactly the right ways. View as a really, really strong deck and definitely in a vacuum, I would say it is the strongest deck in the format. You know, if you exclude it's hatred directed towards it in the Meta and really like the Meta has kind of centralized itself still around me, despite it not being the most popular deck, because as soon as the metaw shifts away from you, it will win everything. No, absolutely, you know, if we don't see archias with dark anymore, if we don't see baby multrus and decks anymore, mew will just win every event. Right. So it has to be kept in check. And even with all of that, it is still the number two deck by popularity. It is still a metagame force, consistently making top cutted events and we expect that to continue into indie. There's debates around now energy counts and item counts, like people have gotten more and more creative with kind of their lists. Felt like we got really centralized on the Natalie Miller list for a while now people are branching out to like how many beatso psychic do I play instead of double turbo? Do I play bog crystals? Do I play training court? What stadium is the best? So there's definitely like a fair amount of versatility and what the mew decks look like. My question for you, JW is. We've heard so many times now about the legendary tournament where, quote unquote, that good players flaim you. Is Indianapolis that tournament? I don't know, man, I don't know. You know, we're talking about this exact topic with the boys and and Andrews, like this is the tournament, man, it's finally going to have an all of the good players are going to play. Have you feel like I heard that every turn? I know, I know, I know, I you know, I we're going by personal kind of thoughts. Is like, I don't think it will be overwhelmingly in favor of you, but I do kind of feel the weight of the counters shifting away from you and more toward Ershifu. So I feel like if there was ever a tournament to play me at, it would be this one, like of the last you know, month of tournaments like this is probably the best poised, in my opinion, that me has been, just because Ursh Foo's on the rise. That's a you know, that's what. That's what. That's a workable matchup. Yeah, and then a lot of the counters that people are playing, or especially, like you talked about Archias, that people are making with the archist x, are geared more toward countering ershfu and less toward mew. So seems, I mean it seems to me. Do I think the best players will play it? It's just impossible to know. You know, honestly, right, not gonna go. All the best players have played every tournament. Yeah, that me insane. Yeah, I'd be so cracked. Yeah, the only the only, the only people I'll know whose dex are playing before the tournament is is is the core, core homies. So are we looking at me? No, I don't think so. After the performance. Only person who would even consider it right after the performance that you you I see, yeah, after the performance at to U, I see with the with the group, means kind of off our table. But again, that doesn't mean that it is a bad play. It's joy and I think it's probably in its best position to do well. The X factor from you, why you maybe wouldn't want to play it is the whims of God deck. I don't know if you feel the same, but you know, if whim Scott shows up, you know, in like kind of number for quantity numbers, you know, talking like maybe ten percent of the field or something, that might be very hostile towards you. But if Whimscott doesn't show up like that, or if it like you know, a lot of the players that are playing, which got lose early because they're playing all the Bolton decks, all the all the you know, chairum, Reggie Drago decks, so funny, then yeah, you, I mean, it just it's just so good. It's just the best deck, consistency wise, that has possibly ever existed. Yeah, I I don't know if Whimsicott by itself is really the x factor. That's kind of knocking you down. And like, if you really feel that way, you can play like basic psych energy and fog crystal and training court to kind of deal with that. You know, even just one with with a couple training court sure could be enough, with a combination with at Lisa sparkle the but I think it's the combination of Whimsicott, like rowing it, so to speak, as one of the most popular decks, you know, with the annoying dark stuff...

...that is in Archaeus, with the you can and you'd like enhancement of these Ershey Food X, and they're finding better and better routes to deal with me, you and the decrease of things like Malamar, where you had really good matchic the decrease of these less effective archis decks where you had good matchups. I think that's where you is going to suffer the most, is the combination of Whimscott rising with some of its or straightforward matchups falling down. HMM, although you could also make the argument that gang are as kind of out of the picture. So so true. Absolutely, I guess that's really good. Single Strike. Yeah, it's kind of I would not expect to see any single strike or any gang guard decks do well at all this weekend. So let's talk then about the number one deck by popular arty. You already know what it is and it's going to be Archais, or kind of group of them all together. I would say archie's and Talian is really and you know, maybe with other pokemon paired with it, but Archie's Italian has emerged for sure as the Premier Arcius variant and people are all over it. Still the real question is, how do you deal with or she fu, because clearly in U I see there was not sufficient answers to or Shei Fu right. They an Archius all fell by the wayside, that none of them a topic outside of its appearance in a Sylvi on deck. So I still think archie is dark personally will be the most popular variant. And so then it becomes you know, do you play man if you're dunce bars? Do you play both? You play Hoopa v, do you play all three? You know, how do you deal with your Sheifu magic in a consistent way that they can't just wisel their way out of drum? And that's a questions going to be hanging over every archias players heads and I imagine we'll see a lot of different answers to that question. How so, like, give me, give me some so so I don't think they can think about I don't think they'll be a lot of craziness right. But I think some people be like, yeah, you just play the man of fee, you protect your in telling on in your UPPA on the bench. Or No, if you just play a HOOPA, does none of it matters, like you're fine, or you know the dun speed. Got To have the Dune Stars because you protect your archais and it doesn't matter if they wrapped or flow your other stuff, because archias live that turn you go on with Hoopa. Like I imagine there's going to be a lot of people who are in those different camps and you see how easy it is to like spin up a logic process for all three of those camps. Personally, from my perspective, I think you kind of need multiple of those answers to really feel comfortable over Sarcifu, particularly if you only play the Dune Sparse. That is not enough and U, I see, has proven that, I think, pretty definitively. So the question is, do you play on sparse and Hoopah and is that enough? You Play Don Spars and Mani fees? That enough? And where do you land on that spectrum? Right, of course there are other archies variants. I actually think archias and telly on, like a pure water version that has a melony, is pretty good in the metagame right now. It's also like probably the most favorite archis variant against the newcomer and Lives Act. However, probably has the worst matchup against her, Sheifu of the archais variance. Sure, so there's a lot of considerations for the archies players and I have a strong feeling that people who have been playing a lot of Archais, even if they feel like it's not the best, best metagame, will still play a lot of archias. Yes, definitely, definitely. I mean that is certainly like again another deck. I kind of talked about it like with what they're Lud on right is like you're playing the archias deck because you really like how it how it plays. You feel like you are in every game, which is can be kind of cruel at time, just because when you feel like you can play every game, you feel like your winning percentage is sometimes higher than it is. Not Saying that you know Arcius has a low winning percentage because it is the most popular deck for very good reason, because it does, you know, win a high number of games. But you know, just the fact that you are in every game, you know, can can kind of skew at least my mindset, or it's like, oh, I feel like I can in this Gamer. I only lost because I missed, you know, one crucial turn or that one crucial card. Like it'll be better next time. But yeah, like you said, a lot of players that are looking at Archias they're going to play archias. They're going to be fine playing archis. They're gonna have a lot of fun playing archis. They're going to do well playing archias for the most part, and you know, it's certainly one of those decks that that is going to be, I think, the most played. Just do you look at all the variance Adam all together, it will be the force in Indie. That's a good point as well. I would definitely put out the tag team pro tip that if you're playing archias leads,...

...for the love learn when to scoop. You're going to tie so many games if you play them all to the nitty gritty and with our kids. Yes, and it's so tough because with the deck like that, I know just you're never out of it until they take their last prize, like there's always a route. Yeah, what I what I always adds ZARC players, in myself included, would fall into this trap. What I would recommend you, know, adjusting your mindset to instead of thinking of the thirty percent, fifteen percent chance that you have to win this game, even forty percent. You know, maybe you're slightly unfavored to win this game. Instead of thinking about that, pick the going first or second option that's best for your deck and if your win percentage is at all higher in that game, just play that game instead instead of right hying, right right, and that's obviously like we're coming down to the last like fifteen minutes or twenty minutes, right, just enough time to squeak in that last game. You got to be making these decisions and you got to know, got to know when to hold them. No one to fold them. Yes, no one to walk away, no one to run. So true. So that's our top five in the Meta game. I guess, JW, if you had to demerit Arkis, what would you say? demeriting arch is, I think, just the the possas factor. I mean the lists are all very much known quantities. I don't know where you can really innovate that much with the arcis deck. So it's just very much a known quantity. If you're playing the dark archius, it's an own quantity. If you're playing, you know, straight Arcius like, it's a known quantity. So it's just missing. We talked to this on the on the talk about this on the cast before too. Is just like not a lot of not a lot of possess you're not really going to be able to innovate too much, and that's totally fine, not saying that there's necessarily anything wrong with that, but you know, you sit across an opponent, they pretty much know what's going to occur. It is games, I would agree. So, though, before we jump into our own personal picks, JW, why don't you hit us with a card of the day? Yeah, absolutely, Riley. Did you know that one of the first supporters could draw your deck out completely? Maybe you know this? Yeah, it you could. You could draw your entire deck by playing one supporter. It was never banned, and you'll understand, like draw you till you hit a certain type of card. No, no, no, it that. That would have been pretty cool. Though, but uh, it was. Is called this this supporter called Mary's impulse. So it's flip a coin until you get tails for each heads, draw two cards. That's that's it. So in theory you don't need any you roll, you get stuff. You can. Yeah, I could get really dangerous right, like please get me off the ride. But in theory you could play the supporter and draw your entire deck, which in some cases is is definitely a benefit and in in other cases probably a detriment to your chance of wedding. That's that's my car of the day. Mary's impulse. I feel like not a lot of people know about it because obviously with these with these cards that you know, the continuous tumble cards, I like to call him right, you see these on like Pika choose and and Geo dudes or whatever. or It's like flip a coin until you get tales, and you know it does, you know, twenty times the number of heads and you're like, oh my gosh, that's incredible, like I'm going to use this all the time, like I can, I can knock out anything. And then you take a little bit deeper at the probabilities and you know it often does not go your way. It out very quickly. Fireflips or yeah, yeah, exactly, so Mary's impulse. Very Interesting, card, ereader, card, infinite draw, potentially awesome. Well, let's take a quick for either and give a shoutow our sponsor. Thank you so much to manscaped or being a presenting sponsor for tag team. Tag teamates presented by manscaped, if you were not aware, and manscaped has some awesome stuff in the pipeline for you folks. I'm going to say it every single time we're leading up to a big tournament. Hygiene matters at these things and there's no better way to take care of yourself than manscape. So listen here, listeners, are you ready to be blown away? We did here. You asked for it and they listened. And over at manscaped we just relaunched the ultra smooth package. Your fast and favorite lawn Moore is...

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I could think of this because I'm a genius type. Moments when in reality it's kind of all the same, like right, like you're at always. But yeah, no, no, not always. But it's like, Oh, you know, okay, Ryan's really good here, like Ryan was Claire from all traces that sure lay here. You know for sure. It's. So it's really cool. It's just a really cool deck. It's got a bear in it. Jw and I both have been really big fans of wrapper strike er she fu since battle styles came out, so it shouldn't be a massive surprise that either of us are really into the deck. We've just kind of been kind of waiting for the breakthrough moment to give us an excuse to sleep it up. Honestly, it feels like, well, you were kind of talking like you maybe we're thinking about it for Ey see, kind of in retrospect, you wish you had pulled the trigger there. Oh yeah, I mean or Sheifu was probably the deck I played the most over the in the weeks leading up to you, I see, because I had some I had so many games that Orshifu even before Liverpool had had finished, because I had also built a Nurshi food deck that weekend. So yeah, I obviously I do wish I played or she foo for U. See, I would have had phenomenally good match with with my day. But yeah, it's a deck I've been playing a lot for a long time. or She fuos a card I've been using for a long time very consistently. You know, when we think of like Players Cup three even, that was the deck that I played to get all of my qualification points clown. So really love or she fu. My backup pick would would also likely be whims of COT. I honestly don't feel like I'd be playing an Arcius variant at this event unless I found one that really impressed me. I would all back to me before archius most like. Yeah, I think like the the reason I would maybe choose whim Scott is if I felt the metagame was lining up in a certain way. Yeah, you know, I don't know if you feel similar, like what would be your reasoning to play Whimscott overplaying Orshfu, because I just feel like, yeah, with ours food, yeah, I can, I can counter everything, I can play matches against pretty much anything. Got All these strategies that I feel like really allow me to outplay my opponent in a lot of ways. I can't really do that the same way with when Scott Right, you're kind of just hoping for the matchup more so than being able to I'll play your opponent. So what would make you play whims Scott, or what would make you play you if you aren't going to go with her food for this weekend? Yeah, maybe, for kind of similar reasons. If I felt like the meadow was just too hostile to or she food in a way that or she food couldn't deal with, I would probably swap off of it. I don't know what exactly that metal would look like, but certainly if I felt that way, I would probably panic swap off or she fu. And, you know, amongst the two, I would play whims of cotta, who was like, you know, more Arcius, dark, heavy Meta game. That why I was heading into and I would playing you if it's like, oh, people are plaking out, like the sylvion's the stuff or the sweet coons. Yeah, are the sweet counds, and I just want to I want to run through those. Yeah, yeah, it's fair and you know, amuse another deck that I feel like I've gotten the reps in at this point. I feel pretty good about how I would I let that deck as well, that's great. I I think we can look back at this. You know, last couple weeks, certainly for you, is like you know, you've put in the time, you know what you're getting into, you know the decks inside and out. You know, I really feel of anyone in the group, Riley, you're probably the one poised to do the best this weekend. Well, this this formats volatile to and you know what, if you take a whims and you flip it off heads, you know, maybe it's in the cards for anybody. Ever. You know, I like just just let a rip. That's right. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, yeah, that is another great equalizer. They may not all Lissar in the crushing Hammer. Yeah, so what a RIP, buddy? Absolutely, absolutely. I love a good I love a good crushing Hammer. We've been we've been talking about crushing camera and I cut the room lackeys, macky for the Harley's. HMM. True, yes, I do remember that. Yeah, the Harley's acrobikes. So, but yeah, we've been talking about, you know, if we were to play once Gott like, what the lexicon would be. We've come up with this this mario adjacent like kind of dialect, as it were. So before you play a Marni, you say let's so go and then and then you can like kind of rotate through. When you play Hammer, you go or or like. What are some of the other ones? Riley? Well, of course it is. Ever, yeah, so or who I've we have for context, because...

...it's probably makes no sense to anybody. Ever since I was a kid, you know, when I played Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga for the game boy advance, there's like one voice line where Mario says hammer and he says it like exactly like that and it's been stuck in my brain. Whenever I like here or see the Word Hammer, like that plays in my brain for, you know, almost two decades now since that gay came out and I was try I was like making that sound or like saying hammer that way. As we're testing the other day and nobody understood what was going on. I hadn't played that specific game. Yeah, and I guess nobody had played the game, so they didn't really get it, and even if they did, it's like still very niche reference. So I pulled at the clip. We listen do a bunch of Oria sounds and now we agree that like that's how you should talk with Helay Pokemon, at the very least when you play Pokemon, Pokemon deck that has hammers and yes, because you got to be able to slip in the hammer voiceline. So if you if you hear an echoing of people saying Hammer, like Mario, that's that's why. So good. So we're going to be obviously at Indie, so if you are as well, please make sure to say hey, you know, introduce yourself to us. We love to meet more fans of the cast and this isld be my first, you know, big tournament since two thousand and nineteen, so I'm really excited to meet all you guys. Yeah, absolutely, you all are so, so awesome, like, seriously, all the folks who've reached out at events that I've been to, particularly like the folks I got to see at you I see you all were so pleasant, so fun to talk to on your support is what keeps us going. So definitely feel free to stop by and say hey. She'd wr happy you have and I are happy to have a conversation. It's like a podcast, but in real life man's created. That's so insane a conversation. You're getting so please say hi. We're excited to meet you and thank you all so much for your continued support, whether or not you'll be an indie. We appreciate every single one of you out there who listens to the cast. You all are what makes this possible and if you want to leave feedback about how we're doing, you can do that by leaving a rate and review on your favorite podcasting platforms. That gives us a forum to know how we're doing it, where we can improve and helps us out in the algorithms, if you care about any of that stuff as well. Helps US grow and continue to do this stuff at the highest level that we can. Absolutely so. We have a couple of socials that we want to shout out right now. You can find the cast over at tag team Pokemon on twitter. You can find Riley at smiles with riles and myself over at Real John Walter. We also stream every single Wednesday at thirty PM eastern time at twitch TVASH money, and I run a twitch channel myself, twitch dotdv Flex Daddy righteous. I think that's going to bring us to an end for today and thank you all so much for your support and we will catch you all next time is say y.

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