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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast
Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 1, Episode 5 · 1 year ago

4. JW's Egg Basket

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

All right, what is that for everybody,welcome back to tag team Gw and I floved the intro last time, because weforgot to record audio, but we're back, and so I am Riley joined by my goodfriend, JW Cree Wall, JW Howar, you doing today, Hey I'm doing pretty goodRiley. How are you I'm doing? Fine I've been pretty busy at work. Getting Readyfor another trip out to California, so enjoy the wonderful backtrop for theviewers on the video. While it's here becauseI'll probably be back in a crappy hotel next week, yeah, I well make sure weget better. You know layouts for me when I have theoath I actually I was watching. I thought you did a pretty good job forreally well yeah twenty minutes of prep that you had yeah there you go. It waskind of a last second last second effort yeah. Well Dw. How have you been,though, this past week, I'm een pretty good? I mean things are just checkingalong as as normal and just practicing a lot have some gigs that I was doingand just live in the dream. Yeah. That doessound pretty awesome. So are you on track to actually finally get agiggoing or you stuck an limbo forever out here? Well, I have an auditioncoming up in December, so that's in St Paul Minnesota and so I'll be flyingout there. You know in about a month and we'll see how it goes. Yeah well,twin CDs. I feel, like that's a pretty cool place to be so hope that works outfor you Oa Esal side, though you did actually when a pokemon regional. Ithink it was this past weekend. Richmond Virginia was it were you therewas. That was that this weekend I mean like I distinctly rememberwatching it on my computer, but that might have I mean that might have beenan old video, a like popped up or something no, no yeah. I think you'reright. I think this was this last weekend but yeah you know I did winthat reachnal and I guess I'm just trying to stay humble about it. Yeah,no yeah! I feel that man. I feel that youcan't come on too strong with these kind of things. Otherwise, wr right,but all right man like whatever dude it, be a little pompous of me to just comeon here and just say: Hey, I want a regional, so yeah just keep it on ofthe DL. I guess- and you know we'll just let let the results speak forthemselves right and I mean for you. They haven't spoken for themselves inso long, so it's been since tw thousand andthirteen you ne, you never really know when your next big win is going to comeand it it has been very exciting and a little bitheartbreaking to see your friends succeed over and over, and you knowdifferent friends do well in different tournaments and as been great for themand I'm very happy for them and wouldn't you know, change the thing,but then you always kind of wonder like well. When is my shot going to come andit came last weekend yeah and I mean it was in pretty dominant fashion too,plus you looked good the whole way doing it. Thank you very muchappreciate that itret. I hame my special shirt on for day to yeah. What's your special shirt, it's IT'S! Icall my Florida shirt and it has like mixed drinks like little like hula girls, whatis Thatd, to dowith Florida. I just feel like it's a Florida shirt,because it's kind of a little bit baggy just feels like somebody somethingsomebody would wear into the beach in Florida. Specific importance, pui! Well,because people are crazy down there and they don't really care about what theywear or like fashion norms or anything like that right right. That's all aboutcomfort, and you know it's kind of something that,like an old man, would wear, because he doesn't really care about how it looksyeah and you definitely got some boomer vibes going tw. Well, that is the joke.Isn't it yeah, but it sounds like we 're talking earlier you're, trying tokind of reverse that boomer VI by you said: You're growing, a man but yeahI'm going a Manbun, that's right! So that's my big goal for the next month,I'm going to see where it goes and the next month, I'm almost to a ponytaillevel, but it looks like a Suma...

...wrestler because it's not long enoughto lay flat so we're just going to keep going for it. It's about time. My wifekeeps telling me it's about time. I need to like trim the sides here. Sowe'll probably do that. Hopefully this weekend- and you know it's getting it'sgetting pretty- you know it's getting pretty long. You know t comes down likeover my eyes in the front. You wouldn't know, because I had some nice productin it right now, but you know soon enough, we'll be able toget that man Bon Rockin and then my outfit Ind, my appearance will becomplete. Well, don't give any free advertising to that product on streamas far as namedropping goes, but have you reached out to them as far as likemaybe doing some kind of sponsorship thing? Oh, that would be a good idea.Yeah. I think we could maybe get some kind of brand rapbo on something tothink about. Well, I was super excited actually tosee you win and take Ofe the championship. regial champion JWcreewall super exciting. I mean the last one barely counts, if you thinkabout it so well, the funny thing about the last one is is: It was the firsttournament of This Day, two style system where they play extra rounds andday to, I think, that's something that has kind of gotten lost, but that wasthe first tournament where they didn't just cut to a top thirty two bracketand PLAC single Alim. They actually went into a day to of Swiss. It waskind of a little bit of a debaccle because in day to people got pairedagainst people. They had already gotten paired against in day too. So there wassome big problems with that, because there wasone you know person who had a really bad matchup against this other deck andthey got paired against them twice in the second day, and how did they messthat up? It was just the program was so new.They had never done it before, so it didn't account for because I think itjust paired people with the same records. But then things happened where,if they didn't have the same records, then they would be paired togetheragain or something like that. I don't know something really bizarre and therewas one problem where, like the highestced played the lowest seed orsomething like the person with the most point, like the person with the leas itwas, it was really Wacky, I'm glad they got that started aup for sure yeah yeah.So let's just get right into it. Then youhad an awesome run at this regional. I mean you lost what one series theentire event. It was one series Nd. It was in day one yeah yeah, eight and onein day one and then basically one out until you startedtying and day to pretty impressive run, basically just a little bit of a nerve.On my run, if you think it so run me through what that was likerun me through the tin that you saw you don't have to go around by around. Butwhat was like. The theme of the things that were out there, what were the bigdecks? What were things that you were hitting often and things that you sawaround you run me through your days. Let's start with day one sure, so Iplayed against a couple buzz garb in day one and that matchup was probablythe freeest matchup that I had over the course of the two days. Just because Imean twofold, you you know their garbs, don't do anythingbecause you only play five items, so you literally cannot play into garbadorlike that. You can try and fail ih you can. You could get your computer searchand computer search. You know two poke years on turn one and it literallycouldn't matter less cause. Actually, the best attack on garbador is ethidsfsright. Exactly so, if they're able to Athen spray enough times and asses prayis actually a two hit Kao on the garbater. So what I saw from a lot ofpeople and actually Alex Shremansky, played it very well in our series Hewasthe closest person I played it twice. He played itextremely well, but what he would do is go in with an early let loose and thenjust try to build up and acid spray on...

...the bench and yeah. The matchof wasparticularly difficult if they played two psychics, because then that waythey could attach two basic energies that you couldn't Faba and then be ableto attack with the third special energy. So, even even if F E way, even if youfiliut every single turn, they could attach. You know another rainbow or abeast energy and just keep continuing to you know to shot your vio plumes.But if the let loose didn't stick like letlers, actually wasn't a problem forme throughout the tournament, and I think that just goes to show that with good deck building, I really don'tsee Mar Shadow as a major problem. I just felt like throughout the courseof the tournament any time I oppone tried to let loose me against my deck.I always had a way to draw out of it. It may not have been the optimal way todraw out of it, but I always had something to do. I always had a bridgetor fan club or Steven's fovolb. There was just some way for me to get out ofit. I think that is a very big strength of the deck where a let loose plantdoesn't affect you. E Land is useless yeah exactly exactly so. I really feellike that was that was a very big strength.Just generally speaking of the deck, so buzgarb was a very free matchup for meagain, I did get very close to losing. I think I think I may have lost a gameto Alex in day one I can't remember, but you know he played it very very well. Iplayed another buzz garb that that just played a little bit more specialenergies and maybe didn't know the matchip quite as well. So then I'm curious did you? Were you finding yourself typicallygoing for basic, lock plume, or were you find just item, locking andattacking with Roulit sure so in that match of? I would go in with the itemlock because it kind of it just slowed their deck to a crawl. If they haveaccess to items then they can get. You know they just see more of their deckright, and so I usually would start with item lock. Unless I prize to gloom,if I prize to gloom or too Atish, then I would just get the basic, butnormally I just go for the item: Lock, slow, the game down to my pace and thenslowly build up the burning shadows and that kind of gave me a little bit moretime to be able to find Guzma, which was actually the biggest thing. I feellike you get the item lock, plume up and then all you're really searchingfor US energies and Gusmas to take out their biggest thread on the bench. Sothat's kind of how I approache that matchup, not necessarily that you needthe Item Lock Mile Plume, but that it just gives you more time. It is a moreof a win more card in that matchup, but I felt like it just controls the gameso much that you might as well have it since you have all the you know:resources to do it they're not really threatening your roweg on the firstturn, unless they maybe get beest energy onto a buzzle Farmosa. That'sprobably the scariest thing beast energy, buzzle, Farmosa and then alllet loose. That's probably the scariest thing that Dat can do, but even then,if you draw Faba and you're able to get rid of that beast energy, then they'reonly hitting you for thirty and it's pretty aigible from there yeah so buzgard. That was a deck that Iplayed twice. I played a night March from Alex Carcia. This matchrup can be a little bittricky. He did play the target whistle, but I fear that he didn't know to tryto use it against me, and so there was one game. I think it might have beengamed to where he'd kind of resigned himself to just losing the matchup andhe had battle compressord away his target whistle like on turn one orsomething like that, and that just kind of left me open to basically dowhatever. I wanted target whistle isn't a huge issue, because you cancounterplay the target whistle with your own Brock Scrit, but in your ownAz. I guess like if they target whistle a ROWIG and they can't one shot it,then you can just asee it, but it's still an out, and I don't. I don't knowthat he played to that out in our game.

So that was a fairly simple matchup. I played against Zoro control twiceover the two days day, one I played Caleb Gedammerin round two and I feel that the Zor control matchup.It's certainly winnable, if not favored, for Raweg, just because you can reallyhit them with the power plants and if you can get the power plant early andespecially if you get the powerpline early and have a backup power plant tobump their silent lab, then I find that the games just grin to a halt for themand they have a hard time keeping pace. So I beat calub pretty convincingly twogames and round to round three Iowa streamed against Pikaran, which was apretty tough match. AF. I was a little bit concerned about it because theprizing for me is a big issue. If I prize one burning, shadows, vile plume,the game can get really out of hand very quickly because they can alwaysgoozmar around your. You know your burning shadows, Alplume and then tag bolted on the bench right. Sothat's always anount you wan to make sure that you have your burning shadowsboth in the deck, but one of the cards that saved me in thatmatchup was shuckle and shout us te Shucklegx who save me a game to shoutus to chat apparently, who caught that chuckle was not supposed to get knockedout from his PKROBS first attack, which I'm blankingon now ful, but it full blood. So it only had two energy attached and he hadthe stadium out. So he technically could attack. But it just didn't youknow, do any damage to my shuckle because he only had two energy attached,so we thought it was a knockout. Obviously it wasn't and since it wasn'ta knockout, it actually just gave me that one extra turn that I needed to beable to retreat into a Ralig and evolve up into my guys. So that was a very,very tense match. I think I lose if he gets the turn one knockout and I thinkhe was telling me later that he actually had like an energy switch inhand that he just didn't play. He didn't think he needed to play it. So edidn't play it. That matchup goes a lot differently. If,if he does get that turn one knockout, so you both forgot what chuckle didwell it just kind of it was the kind of thing- and I said this on my stream commentary. Afterwards, it's just thekind of thing where, in your brain, you kind of simplify information by by bringing together just effect that youknow, like you know that thunder like Youw just basically know like Ohthundermountain, countes, another energy, and so then I can use my attack,and so I have three energy, but that's not exactly how the cards work, butyour brain is just going to combine those actions and combine those effectsjust so that it makes it easier for e to know what's going on, so I don't it's just our brains are weirdand I feel like people will say. Oh how could you not know what that card didor how could you be Su stupid like to let that happen, but I really thinkthat there's something deeper going on than just us not paying attention. Ithink it's just really that we had a malgamated information and kind of madeus our brain helpd us to make that assumption right, beause it. If ourbrains have to calculate every little thing that happens, then it's going to take us forever todo any task, all right, so Ri Hass to like kind of combine thing so that itmakes it faster for us to do everything right. So if we have to think about howto breathe, then we will never get any work done right. So it's just that kindof thing that happened on stream and you know. Unfortunately, we had amisplay, but it's just the kind of thing that happens, and I certainly seethat you know that these things are canhappen to me right. You never think they can happen to you and then they doand it's a big thing so kay. That's a lot of words to say you don't playshuckle a lot well in my round, for I played against adark ry. He didn't have stealthy hood,...

...so that was a very, very free matchupfor me, and then I also played another free matchup in Spiri Tum, and that wasin around eight. I played against Nowel, but he didn't play any evolution hero. I kind of I still played it veryconservatively where I would start by going with the item: Lock, Vile Plumeand then you know and then getting out the burnnshadows, but I think in reality all I needed to do in that matchip Le's gofor the burning. Excuse me the burning shadows of ALCOM, but it again it'sjust a lot of these matchups were so free that you might as well play itconservatively m and then see what happens and then in round. Seven was myonly loss on day once so I started out six. Oh, I was feeling really goodabout everything, but I was kind of noticing, as the rounds got going like.Oh there's, this guardion that's doing really. Well. I really hope I dodgethat, because the dark box I had only heard, played a on one wee vil and Iwas like okay. Maybe I can you know I can knock that out with the gx attackon the Ralli Executour, but the guardy hastwo aromatists and that can be really tough, especially with they're healingright. So the dark box doesn't ay healing you just one shot that thing,one time and you're good to go, but the euromatist you hat the two shot itgenerally speaking, because Iy don't really give you enough time to get up aRalle, alolan executor the power plants. Don't really do anything to that dexsyou don't really slow them down. The their whole deck is built to be able tohandle sinal lab and power plant. So I was really scared of that. I ended upplaying it in around seven. I think he just drew fine and, like I don'tremember, drawing badly or well, and I think the matchup played out as youwould expect where he was able to heal- and you know, maybe we obviously don't have that gamerecorded, but maybe there were different lines of play that I couldhave done. I think I did learn a lot from that game and when I came back toplay it on stream and again in the top four, I did learn a lot and I playedthe matchup I think differently, but I'm not sure that there was anything Inecessarily could have done that round to avoid a loss. You know played verywell in that in that round, seven and then round nine. I played against darkbox, so this was the guy I played Chris, who got second at the regions I playedin three times: Ie played it three times anen already on to and theGuardiad. I did play three times. That's true. I don't know if that has.I can't recall if that's ever happened, where people have played the same personthree times. That seems absurd and for me to do it twice is just even morethree times as definitely happened. I don't know if it's ever happened twice.It was crazy. It as was so wild, and so I played Chris and I was like hey bro.You want to ID like our last round. I'm, like, I probably don't, have a goodmatchup against you, so I'm just going to offer the ID he's like not Bro, I'mgoing for the cloud like. I want to go Nio Day One and like fairenough. If, if I was in your position, I probably would too so we play thatgame and I don't really remember too much about the game. But I justremember that the plants stuck the whole time against him and wasn'treally able to get on a thad to yeah yeah. I could get up the I could get up the item, lock, F,vioplume and then his jeck just kind of died on him after I had the plant down,and so one thing that I didn't know until the finals was that he onlyplayed two stadiums, and so, if I had known that throughout the day I thinklike I maybe would have been more aggressive and trying to search outplants, but it just so happened that yeah that I beat him and I think all ofour games went to three games. I I can't quite remember, but I ended upbeating them around nine, so I went to eight an one and had the bestresistance II as first seed heading intoday to day two s really funny. Iwas like oh Bro, we're going for the salty runback, because immediately Iplay Chris again in the first roundoday to and end up beating him again.

I go right back to a salty runback wdrew eleven and it was that was pretty funnybecause he won very convincingly against me for in thet round seven matchup and we were heading over to the streamthey're like hey we're going to stream, you guys and- and I told them headingup. I said this just feels like a lamb heading for the slaughter like ithought,I was going to get bodied so hard, but you saw in that stream game. That wasprobably one of my most just I'm happy was recorded because forme it felt like a game that I really did the right plays every time and andwork to find out my route to victory, and so I want to do a breakdown of that video.Sometime for my channel just to kind of go over what I was thinking and kind ofthe decisions that I made in that matchup because it did really feel like.I had learned a lot and I tried to use a different strategy and it ended upworking out for me. I do feel like in in the the stream game drew went tooquickly through his deck. I think he could have been a little bit morepatient than he was. There was one term where he like used a he used, asycamore or a junniper instead of using a Guzma, and I think there were othertimes where he may be discarded healing when he otherwise didn't need to, andso I wonder if that matchup is, you know it felt it felt hat kind ofeven after actually playing it three times. But I wonder if it'ssignificantly favored for Romatist, if he maybe plays just in a little bitdifferent way, maybe a little bit more conservatively. I guess it would be t ethe way I would think to approach the matchup, but I mean he certainly hastime to yeah. He certainly has time to for sure, but you saw it there like hewas using junipers very liberally and ended up decking himself out justbecause he couldn't one or two shot. My my vio plum. So right. That was pretty.That was pretty interesting and gave me a little bit more confidence when Ifaced him again in round what seventeen or sixteen in top or andthen I played pramalot in around twelve hewas playing zero control. I offeredhim the idea. This point I was, I had thirty points or thirty three points orsomething I forget what I was at. I was at thirty tid, thirty yeah, so I was at thirty points. I offeredthe Amthe ID because at thirty one I'm just automatically in and I don't haveto worry about getting downpaired or you know anything weird happening. Imean I just wanted to secure it he's like now. You know we had to playbecause at this point it was kind of funny our pointspread. He was thehighest player. I Sa y yeah right, and so he had like twenty seven. At thatpoint he had twenty six yea a twenty six for, and we were just joking aboutit. He is like yeah man like you're, sucking up all these points and, likeyou know I, what can I do, and so so that was pretty funny. Weplayed a good series. I ended up winning a really grindy game. One againit came down to getting a power plant to stick and him not having a counterstadium or he didn't play Mar Shadow in his list. The resetting Hole Mar Shadow,so he wasn't able to get out of the power plant lock and I just built up abig rallet egg and just went smack. SNAK SBACK facks back took all myprizes and that's how that went and then in game to we just didn't get achance. To finish I mean that was kind of the plan. That was the plan frorboth of us right. So we had this really grindy game one, and I think he wasthinking okay. If I can win this, then I just take my time and game to andthat's kind of what I'm thinking like. If I win this, then I just am lookingto survive ind game to, and so we both play that game one as well as we couldand took it as long as we could and ended up working out for me and you know, but it actually worked outfor him to because he ended up making top it anyway, so shot Ao that roundidworkd out for him. No ther around didn't work out for him, but I meanmaybe maybe if he maybe, if he I don't know, ids or something then yeah, youknow whatever, but they're noti made a really bad shoutowto Brian Hunter, who m I'm very sorry...

...about and who will never. Let me livethis down, but I come up to him around fourteen and he's playing trevinit andand I'm thinking to myself, man. I should just scoop to this guy, becauseI want this guy and cut and then I'm like Bro, I'm goingno scoop to you he'slike yes, like he gets to thirty one points. I think he was at twenty eightand then I'm like yeah man, let's just I'll just scoop to you and then I'mthinking about it and I'm like. If I scoop to him, then I probablywon't see him until top for as the earliest, because I have so many othat'll probably be like number one, maybe number two seed, so I probablywant am if I give him thirty one points and he o another one of the higherseats yeah and he right exactly so, I'm like well. If I id you now and then youID in your last round, you'll be at thirty that's the bubble and then Ihave a better chance of hitting you in top EI, which I would like to God. Sothen I recened the concession and I'm like hey go. Do you want O id?You know because at this point it yeah, I feel that's really funny. Luckily Brian is a g and he's like dude.I get it, but I'm never going to let you live this down so y. ah so he'slike you know what I'll take the idea, because I take o Excuve me I'll, takethe ID because this matchup sucks for me- and you know, unfortunately he wasNineh, but I don't think he wins that matchup.So I mean Youi Tak with a Ralic yeah yeah.I feel really. I do feel bad about saying like I'l concede, I did saytwice, but I just had to think about itbecause it would have been a shame to. I don'tknow to try to do to try to have them and cut, but then not play them,because I didn't you know because I just like conceded,I don't know it was. It was weird so for sure, and the last round I adidwith grant Manley. So we were both in cut and then top eight. I played a mirror,and so the mirror was more tech, for I guess is Ork, so they played theskeptileline right. The skep tow was really really cool, but itdidn't really help him that many games, because his beck really clonked up onhim after I got the vio plum out. I was kind of surprised that the itemlock vile, whom heard him as much as he as it did, because I believe that listplayed, I was told about ten items and I would guess that there they like he had net balls. I know forsure yea. I don't. I don't really know the other items beyond that, but it really clunked his deckupsignificantly and I think, just in general, like he wasn't able to findsupporters, he kind of drew badly. But at the same time my deck just did whatit was supposed to do. And- and you know I was able to draw energy outof my deck a lot more easily than he was, and so I could get attackingfaster. And so I just put too much pressure on him and tried to knock outskeptiles and you know just tried to do the thingstarget down his energy when I C, and so he played like a life forest- and thatwas his kind of his out in the last game or in the first game of thatseries. But I had a power plan in hand to like counter that life forest and Iwas just kind of all over from there. You would think that the skeptile linehelps, but I just found that their deck I just found that their deck yeah wasjust a maybe a little too clunky without being able to use the items onturn one and- and I think that really all it came down to. He just neverreally got that- that good start that you want to see, and then he was neverable to get energy out of his deck because he couldn't search for things.The one thing I will say in the Mirror: if they don't play well, he played heplayed Lales as well. So my power plants were good against that, but Ialso was able to stick him this one crucial turn. I remember in I thinkgame one where I flipped heads on the gloom and he had a dead hand except fora laylay, so he could have played the...

...laylay to grab ha supporter, but Iactually hit heads on gloom, so I was able to bench that layle, you know and it's like well, you knownow you're stuck with the dead hand and your bench is full, and that was apretty clutch flip and then, in top four I played againstguardion again and those games were really stressful. I had to do a lot ofthinking the first game, O kind of Di you hate to see it. I know you ha tosee it, but the first game went with the this kind of the same as the streamgame went where I tried to run him out of energy by consistently eitherGozmang like a a tag team on the bench or fobbing the floatstone or like justputting the pressure kind of on the thing that he wasn't expecting orputting up the pile plume. So we had to retreat the guard of war just doingdifferent things like that. To try to run him out of energy. Eventually I gotto a point where I was able to use Faba in the lake game because he kept youkind of have to keep as the guard of or player kind of, have to keep yourwonder energy so that the burnieg shadows, vile plume, doesn't status,lock you, and so he I mean h. He did what e hwas supposed to do right. Hekept the wonder energy, but in doing so he opened me up to being able to fatherhis energy away and then towards the end of the game. He just really didn'thave any gas left to use and I was able to kind of muscle my way through thatfirst game. In the second game I mean, what can you say he ended upprizing both of the spritses. So I knew immediately that I had that I had won.I mean it really was like. I knew that ID won that game when he altra balls onhis first turn and he grabs another Guardo or and- and I think immediatelylike I have this game because you know nobody in the right mind would just getanother guardof ar and pass right. So so he clearly, he clearly prized bothspritseas and I played that game with that knowledge. I was very helpful. Ery Helpful, its good to to yeah yeah and he alsolike missed he missedi think in the early game, which would have helped himknock out my burning shadows, vil, plume and or excuse me knock ot. Myitem lock vile plume and give himself a little bit more of a chance. It wasjust really unfortunate that it came down to those prize and things, but Imean that's, you know that's part of the game and you know if, if he didn'thave a way to deal with it, then you know I mean maybe the deck could beconstructed differently, but it just kind of sucks t at it came out down tothat. I mean Sux for drew that it came down to that. It was great for me thatit came down to that, but he also had some weird prizing in game, one wherehe prized all three additional Gardy megagardy or Gardy, Sylvians yeah and then in thestream match. He also had some weird prizes where he prized like an Az, an afloat stone or something like that. He was kind of telling me after that.Maybe she had those cards. I would have been a little bit different, but you know shout out to drew again forbringing like an awesome deck. I think I was that was like that was probablythe deck t at that should have made finals, but you know you have to get really luckyto win a tournament like this, so you know I don't yeah. I can't I can't yeah somebody hasto win right. So I'm happy I'm happy. I was able to do that and then in thefinals obviously played against Chris again tough matchup. I think there were somequestionable plays on my part. I just finally watched the Vodagan, I think in game to I like,didn't go for a burning shadow or I didn't go for an item lock, F, Vilclume and I'm trying to I'm struggling though figure out. Why I didn't do that.I was to yeah, and so I I'm not really sure I think it might have been like Iwas looking at my I knew I had a gloom prize. I think- and I had one in hand,so it was like at that point that I was thinking well. I will only be able toget up to Viol plum this game and they probably should both be burning shadows.I think that was what was going through my mind at the time, maybe not theircorrect play in hindsight, but I don't...

...think my thinking was that wrong and I kind of got caught up in themoment in that first stream game I don't usually get nervous, but thatfirst stream game I was having a really hard time focusing and having a reallyhard time, zero. Onion on what my correct play was. I ended up winningthat first game, but just to get centered and focused was difficult forme, so I definitely can see how people wouldget like stream nerves and how people would make incorrect plays. It. Definitelyalmost happenedto me in that first game, but after I kind of settle down andlocked in it was a lot better. So last game I had to choose whether to gofirst or second right. I had one game one. He had lost Game Game One and hehad wone game two. So I had to choose Andrew had been telling me the entireweekend. You've been telling me the entireweekend that I should go second in the Dark Reymatch up and based on my games with Chris, I felt like that was actuallyincorrect. I didn't know he played only two stadiums, but I kind of felt like the turn one power plant was so strongagainst his deck, that I should probably try to go for it on turn one,even if it means risking getting dead, endto Gx, because he never actually wasable to attack with a dturn one dead end, which I thought was interesting,which made me think like his deck was a little bit different from theturbodarks that I had practiced against and played, and so I chose to go first and and paid off.We have a question here in chat. That says, did I know and game one that his wevilewas prized? I thought I mean I knew it was prized and I figured that thatwould be the only way I could win so I played with that in mind. I knew he hada few turns to grab it and he didn't so. I was really curious as to why that wasand then I wasn't. I don't think I was able toget an Az on the turn that my Ralla egg had so much damage. So I just let himhave it and try to evolve into another burning shadows and then just hope thatthose two got me there. Luckily, he didn't draw the wevile and you know the rest of his history. Thereind three. I had some questions about. When did I know that my two burningshadows, vil plums, were prised and the answer is that I actually didn't knowuntil I drew them off my prizes because I mean Oly. What's that that's like solate to yeah for sure for sure it was, it was really funny going back to watchit because I see that the chat is going crazy. Though they're like win for Darbox win for Dotor macks and, like Oh, my gosh. I can't believe this happened.ING like dark fucks champion and, like you know, jbuses teck sucks, and youknow all these all these things in the chat and but after I let lose him ingame three and put the plant down and he passes right. He has the Arangermy heart, like flutters, so hard when he arangers for one I'm like, pleasedon't be a playbook card. Please woll be a playable card and luckily itwasn't, but I knew then after he just passes that I that Iwan Yeah I knewthat as soon as I got the item lock violeclume up that I won the game, hedidn't get a single energy down. He didn't really get anything in thediscard. There was no pressure, zero pressure that he had put on me afterthat, first turn, and so as soon as I figured that out, it didn't matter thatmy Birden Shadow, Wileplens werprise yeah right, I woulda I would have. Iwould have won that game regardless. As long as I get, you know that exact setup on that first turn. So I didn't I didn't know I searched, and I was onlylooking for one thing and that was Idon. Lock Yplumean got it out and made itwork. Yeah the the Purple Meni gets there purple, meaning Yo shout out tothe purple meening. So when are you getting that Tattoo? Well, I'm not getting it. If you readthe full tweet, it was actually two part weet and is for Andrews. So, Ohyeah, so I did read that sweet. But...

...when are you forceing Andrew Rather toget that Tattoo? Well we'll talk to his artist, we'll see I mean it'll, be a little guy.You know yeah, I feel like yeah like the size of like a finger or somethingyeah. Yeah put it on like just like hide it in one of his othertattoos like it's Jush Yeah Li misty as a tattoo of it. Oh, that would beinsane because then that would explain whyit's so small, too right right, that'd be hot! Well, awesome! So that's your tournament in review. I'dlike to talk about some other things about Richmond as well. So I love to look at like the decks at ahigh level of Richmond going into Richmond. It didn't seem, like you weresuper sure what you wanted to play. Your confidence in your trademark.Guardy deck was definitely shook by the time. Richmond came around and actuallycalled you on that Friday. Just O just a chat, and you were still super super in your head. It felt like aboutwhat you wante to do so how twon yo decide to come to rouligs. I mean Ialways get super in my head and just for every tournament that I haveever played, and I ways Wonderi sure I always wonder about the deck choice andI aways Wonderi about like the last few cards, like I'm, always super nervousabout that. Fifty ninth and sixtieth card. For some reason I just that'sjust how I'm wired to just really obsess over that kind of stuff and soyeah. I was really nervous about rallit eggs coming in because I didn't havethat many games. We had kind of talked about it. This was a really late deckyeah. I think with the group and it kind of came on well go ahead. I wassome of the group was on it for a little bit like I think Andrew was onfor a while at that point. Yeah Andrew was on it for a while, but it know onlyreally come to my attention the week before. So I don't think that I wouldsay I was necessarily hiding anything because I actually didn't really playthat many games with the no you definitely weren't into it. Either yeahyeah and I kind of felt like it was. It was crappy against. It was a crappy against Zork,especially or put at, and it was also took like a fif fifty against archiesright. So I as thats talk aout the phone yeah exactly. I was a little bitnervous that you know the field would be have a little bit more archies thanthan what we saw, which was practically nothing, and so you know I was a little off thedeck just kind of saying. Well it struggles with arches. It can strugglew our control, which I expect a lot of good players to bring, and- and so I was kind of kind of off thatbecause I felt like the popular deck was going to be blastoice and I feltlike th. The deck of good players was going to be Zoro control. So I don'tthink you can. Knowing that those pieces of information, I don't thinkyou can make a medical where it struggles against those two decks. So Iwas really kind of in my head about it, and so how did I make that decision? We had talked about it Andeni the weekbefore and we had just written down all the matchups and we had gone down andwe had kind of said. You Know Nimarch Otto Win Buzz Shrine, Otto Win Him onChan, Otto Win and like we were going down and there were just kind of an unbelievable amount of autowinds where it was just well. If you get out the burning shadows, vioplumeyou win or if you lack their items, turned to you just kind of win so knowing that that was kind of where Ikept coming back to, I was like well, okay, we take this kind of suspectmatchup to Archiese, maybe take losses to really good Zorgar players, but it'sa winnable matchup if they don't play resetting hole, and so that's kind of where I came backto where I just had so many auto with auto wins and so many dominant matchupsthat it seemed like the right play yeah. I clearly it was in the end yeah. It'sfunny that the the person who got on...

...the deck last was the one who ended upgetting the most payoff for picking it. I guess so yeah really well, it was. Itwas interesting to you because Andrew was like hey man like this dex goodplea and I've created it nd. I don't want my play to be broadcast, so pleasedon't play it on the ladder is basically what he said, and so that'swhere I do most of my desting. It kind of fucks, but I kept you know, and youknow this Raley. I was texting. The group Shat the whole week and I waslike hey anyone want to play some games. I guys want to hop on Pdjo an test withme and I was in Californiah nobody PUK ye up. No, and I'm not saying it's youI'm just saying it was funny like the timing and of everything- and I wasjust like Yeayour Te Youre, O Tryn, to play yeah anybody want to try thisgreat deck that I have, or you know this great deck that Andrew Created-and you know nobody wanted to do it. So I didn't play the deck actually onPhcgo until like the night before I played it on Friday morning, for maybefifteen games or twenty games, I ended up playing against a bunch of haunchgrow and that got me even more nervous. ECAUSI was like the MED is going to beentirely haunch grow said that othe fo to it was crazy. There were, I played it.I had to have been every other game. It was against a hanch group ther and theywould always body me because they just they would always pull off the Combo.They always get the Mars. It was like the perfect setup for Hongegro everysingle game, and so I was really spooked, but it ended up working out in the end,and I kind of talked about this too. Like I tweeted a little bit where I waslike, I don't like the stick, but then I kind of like I feel, like Icovered my tracks, a little bit by saying a little bit later in the weekthat you know the decks that I liked actually turned out to be decks that Ireally just didn't like, and it kind of felt like the more that I played theformat, the more things would change and they would justthey would flip on their heads. I would think that arches was good one week andthen the next week it just sucked and these kinds of things, but I feel likemy preparation- was good in the sense that I got a really good overview ofthe entire format for a long time, because I've been testing expanded fora good two months as pretty much my primary format, so I knew kind of thestrengths of the format. I knew the weaknesses just generally speaking. Itmay not have been particularly with rallet eggs, but I think that does goto show that practice you kn can improve your results. Ithink that's a really good example of that yeah I mean getting any amount ofgames in a format, especially with the amount of quantity that you did ishelpful, no matter what deck you end up playing igt, exactly exactly awesomewhell. I think I think that's a really good testament to what went down there.So, let's talk about some things that we that came out of Richmond first I'liked to hit on the biggest flop of the weekend. No doubt we both talked aboutit by now is ourchesation the whole really looking bad honestly lookingpretty bad this weekend. So what was the deal with that? Why did archiesflap so hard? I felt like Barelyon Wen played it and anyone who did I meanthey didn't make day to that's for sure, so, yeah yeah, I really couldn't tellyou. I just feel like it was just the collective TCG HIVE, mind,saying archies, maybe just isn't the right choice and just opting for adifferent deck. I kind of been talking about archistfor a while saying, like it didn't, really gain anything too big aside fromSBON Daxis, but I often found that I couldn't get the SBON deoxes like turnone. It wasn't that consistent for me right alone, getting let alone gettingthe blastors out turn one, and so I I mean I feel like I talked about it onthe podcast just being like. I don't think that arches gains enough archanges enough to make it viable when it wasn't really that viable lastformat, and so I just think everybody had kind of shifted away. There were alot of people that kind of felt the same way, and so that's, why aren't you slapped yeah, I'm moreand less inclined to agree? I was I...

...mean I legitimately thought our shesisgoing to be the most popular deck of this tournament, and that was actuallywhat turned me off some other decks that I was testing. I let archiescompletely warp my perception of this metagame, but I mean I personally don't even likeourties at all I'll you'll hear me time and time again d say I hate ar cheeseI'll, never play it. It's just a way too much of a cheesy. I guess strategy. I don't knowI she'Su's the right word, but you know what I mean trum, like it's veryalliant on doing this one thing turn one which is kind of gimmicky in ofitself Yep. I guess Gimmocky is better thancheesy to describe or Chesus it's literally a GIMMIC TUM and I guess the rest of the communitykind of caught on to that bive and like they all, I'm sure lots and lots ofpeople tested archies and they all kind of came to the same conclusion. So itwasn't a matter of you know, arshe's, not necessarily me.I guess it. archies was popular, but then so many people tried it out andfelt that kind of awkwardness that comes along with it that they allswitche to something that felt a tlte, more comfortable right right exactly another another surprise from theweekend I think was maybe not a surprise, but the amount of Zoracontrol was really astronomical this weekend. Do you think that is prescriptive ofthis metagame? Do you think our control will continue to sit at the top? I mean at least for now, when we stillhave surge, I I'd kind of maybe not underrated surge, but I knew a lot ofgood players would be playing aor control deck just because you have theoptions to deal with everything. It's Geno generally consistent and I think that it was the play forthe better players because they just were able to grind down opponents andcapitalize on misplays yeah. I mean this. Our control does that Yobe muchbetter than any other deckat this point. So exactly I tink, it's pretty fairassumption. It's a FA is a obviously favorite. Deck of you know you'd becrazy if you didn't think that the gang DDG, whatever you want to call themtesting group, wasn't, was not going to bring some sort of sor control arearight. It's just vazy to say not to at this point, Yeah Yep for sure, especially now that hasall these new tools soea new tools that are going to very quickly be on the wayout too. If I Mygh Dad, I know very interesting, so thi or Controlin archies kind offlip flopped in a way th. The way we expected them to appear. What do youthink is going to be the outcome of this regional on Portland, so we haveEG rou winning. What's that going to do hold on o Humpty dumpty winning therewe go. What a? What's that, what effect is that going to have? Are People goingto change their decks to accommodate that or they're going to ignore it? Aswe've seen time and time again, people ignore DEXA do well? Do we think thatso or control be on the up on the down? What's the story for Portland well I'llflip that back on you Riley to answer and I'll kind of give my impressionsafter you being, you know the two sides right I was in it. I was on thebattlefield and you know you were kind of overlooking everything so so I wouldjust. I would just potulate that question back towards you. What wouldyou think you know either counters or decks thatmaybe arise now that opty dumpty is is on top because itreally was a format breaker, we saw dwo different groups, come up with theirown list and and ride this deck to nine day two spots nine day, two sputs is byfar the most played deck in day to which is insane to thing and thet canRoton base spots and the conversion right was unbelievable. No because Arour group played it in the list that Andrew Michael Zaly, Brady, boder and Iplayed was four for four, and we had you know Andrew bubbled, out of topeight right he's on the bubble bare at thirty points he half and then Zilimade it in, and I you know made it in as well, so just a crazy, crazyconversion right. I there's nothing in...

...my ten years of playing the game thatI've ever been a part of that's been as dominant as that deck was for thattournament, and so and then you just see it with the other players, theother testing group that came up with their own take on it. That also wasjust so oppressive and so powerful that took them very far yeah, but okay O so so saying that Riley,what what do you think will change about the Mada game heading intoPortland? You know I wouldn't be surprised if alot of people don't change their deck at all. I do think more people willplay roud executor. I think more people will answer it ingeneral, but I think a lot of peoplewill stay stagnant. That's just we seen that time and timeagain in pokemon right. If we saw I mean we saw vil plume do well in teamup format, andpeople still didn't pay attention to it. We saw stall do well and multipleformats Gil, don't pay attention to it. We saw a DDG bedominant for multipleexpanded regionals with the same exact deck and nobody respected it at all. So I think that's just kind of thenature of Pokemon and the way dexer built is people tend to be rigid. I guess you could say andthey'll stay on their current traductior, but thatdoesn't mean it Woll get on it. On answer completely, I think things likehoods could start appearing. I don't think hood is the best answer, but ifyou can just get one hood knockout that can completely change tha game. I think stuff like the wevile and dark, was actually genius when I read it atthe end of the day on standings, I'm like what the heck is this, but thenonce I thought about it more and SAR in action I m like well. This is actuallyit was so good agains, zero control. Then it's also pretty good in isvioplume S. it's just like yeah. He just it felt like Christopher. Just aChrisopher Kap just fell into this amazing play that started off by justbeing a dark Fox player. No, I mean, I don't think he fell into it, because no,no, that's not what that's not what I mean exactllhe deliberately chose toplay wevill for those matchups, but he came into the weebile just with like adark, boxy kind of background, and I was like well, you know I was playingthis energy switch. He said I was playing energy switches, but then I youknow I originally was playing at more dark, boxy varian, and so I just threwthe weevile back in once. Hiy started losing the VIO plans and Zor controls.Son. Like that's awesome, Ou know. Yeah and then it obviously were I mean hisdeck was awesome. I really was happy to play Chris and and anddrew. I was happyto play. You know both three times over the weekend and they were both reallyreally great opponents. So, like you said the wevial and dark very, verygood. I think another thing that I would say is like just in general, likearomatist, feels very strong. I think it has a very bad dark box matchup, buta strong just general matchup, and one of the things that makes a romatist week, though, against the egg Rallettdeck is that a romatist can't even to shot a viol plune, and so, if there'ssome way for romatist to to shot the vioplume and I'm thinking particularlya muscle band, would be a good card. I could even see a third spritzy beingvery good, because then that way, like Acerola and just cycle a little bitbetter than what drew was able to do, because there were a lot of games wherehe would get a couple of sprizis down or get you know. He'd, have you know eobviously takes o turn to evolve the Sritzy, so I was able, in those turnsto Guzma up the spritty on the bench and take that out and since he didn'tplay, any form of recovery is never never able to use more than oneiromatist, and so I feel like there are some small minor changes to Romatiststhat you can make to make it better for the field. I still think it has a very,very bad dark box matchof specifically because they can just dead end you andthen one shot you in the lake game with Zora Grininja, but I think it handles alot of the field and with very minor changes. I think you take a very, verypositive hopty dumpy matchup yeah. I...

...definitely think the guardy and the weeVilin dark arpremier ways to just straight upbeat the executor doect just having viableevolutions honestly that you can squeeze into a deck. Is it I thinkenough to push most exs over the edge atlest? You know, Zaric is kind of you know. ZARC takes more of an evenmatchut, because it's so ability and special energy reliant. I think I will say I will say that I think theZordecks do have a very easy counter to to obty dumpy in the Mar Shadow with with yeah e said. Ithink that that I was talking like with grant a little bit back and forth andhe's like yeah. I didn't really realize how free the matchup was, or maybe notfree, but I mean he kind of polarizes things, but you know he said. Irealized how free the matchup was until I played Zeli and top aid, and I justwas able to get the marshadow down it's a very just preemptive card. So whenyou try to stick a plant, it will never stick for that turn because they canalways March audow it away. So they always get an extra turn of abilities,and so that could be really strong to in Zoric. If you're thinking abouttaking that to Portland, I would definitely include I think that is astaple for for Portland. If you do decide to play sor I mean thes orcontrol that can even loop, that Mar Shadow yeah and that that sucks reallyhard yeah. That's that I'm sure you can confirm that is. That would be rough. Absolutely so.Yeah, I think, resetting hole is also a great addition for ZARAC DEC as a wayto overcome that oppressive power plant. So those were some ways to beatexecutor as far as decks that will appear in Portland. I think I think kind of, like I TESTA Tuor,will be on an uptick Li like so orcontrol a lot, that's been myfavorite deck, even leading up to Richmond. I I ve said time and timeagain thit's my favorite deck. It's probably the one of the mostcomfortable with. So that's something I'm looking at right now. I won't be surprised at RCH season,UPTOK in Portland as well a I felt I find in general that archies is morepopular on the West Coast, but be, I think, just like arche's justthe kind of deck that comes back no matter what an no matter, how any timesit flops there's always going to be some amount of people who keep playingit so trure. I think it'll come back a little bit and I think Agrat will bemore of an nown quantity but also will appear more sonly. The very limited number ofpeople played it in Richmond. I think that will be a more significant amountin Portland. I just would yeah, I would say if you are going to Portland, Iwould try to have if not a specific counter. I would definitely just playthe matchup, because it is very very it does have a lot of very free winds,but it can get a lot trickier if the players who are playing them haveeither a way out or can really play the match of better. You know I think, since it was sounknown, we definitely saw- or I definitely saw some people just maybenot make the optimal plays against me, because in really have the the testingin against the deck and that's I mean another bonus of playing a Roge deck,but I would definitely say if you're going to Portland have have an answer or havehave some strategy against the deck yeah, and I I'd also think that darkbox is going to see an uptick. I think Chris Camp put put it on the map as t edeck that can handle it and stick and the Wevi was really the nail in thecoffin ton, make it a truly viable sein, orcetype yeah, exactly a well, and yousaw it from the results of day to right. You saw it again. There were a lot ofeggs and there were a lot of zoracs, and so those are two matcheps that arereally bad for darkbox. Generally speaking, I think that's why we onlysaw maybe one other dark box without I don't believe they play weevial, butjust one other dark box in day to not...

...that it wasn't played, but that it kindof got weeded out by just decks that were better against it and so yeah we saw Chris make a graycall just the one one we vile was enough and really pulled through for Imyeah, no doubt no doubt pulled out paid off really well for him. So those aremy opinion. I she s ore, anything you like to add. As far as things that weexpect to see in Portland, I just think the last thing is that people willconstruct their decks around item lock just a little bit more. I would sayanother thing that people will do is probably increase their supportraccounts, maybe just a little bit like maybe take out that one la you know thefourth vs seeker and put in another Juniper, I don't think it'll be drasticshifts because, of course, via seeker and trainers, mail and battlerompressor. All these items are very, very strong and very, very good for alot of decks, but I think we will see a ligl slight shift towards a heaviersupporter count for a lot of decks. I think Theya, like second Guzma as wellas something exactly I was just going to say. The the second Guzma is huge,the more that you're able to pick out. You know the item. Lic vioplum on thebench, the better off you're going to be able to be so like there were a lotof times in the games where particularly against Buzzgarban, eventhough it didn't really matter all that much, but they only played their oneGuzma and then for BS secret. But if they were never able to one shot thevile plume, then it was almost felt like a waste of of Aguzma. So you wantto make sure that if you do use Gusmo that you're able to onch shout whateveryou're bringing up, but I do think that Chris one of the things that he had inhis deck, which really gave me a lot of problems, was too Gusma, and so I hadto make sure I played around that in the finals yeah for sure. Well, I thinkthat's a pretty good perspective as o how the meadow might shift in Portland.I think otherwise, there's going to be a lot of stuff that remains the same toso you can check out some of our previous to episodes unexpanded. If youwant to hear more about our thoughts in the Forma as whole, yeah jvs Tor,anything else that you wanted to hit on today. I mean I think this is good yeah I justlike we've talked about what we expect to see. We've talked about what changeswill be made and what we kind of think the metagane will be like and so thinkthis will be a good overview for Portland. What what do you have winningRali? What would you guess would win if you had to if you had to make a choice honestly, my own two favorite picks and thethings th I'm considering the most are probably going to be dark with wevileand or control yeah, and that would be exactly where Iwould go. You know you echo exactly where my mindgoes. They have answers to the Ralladeck and they have answers toreally every deck and format. I can't reallythink of a deck that that I would be scared to play if I was piloting one ofthose two dedecks, so I expect the metagame now to be dominated mostly byyou know some type of Chris Deck Right. I think it's just inherently strong andthe more people that play t the more it'll do well and then justsorr controlin general, I think, will be the pick of maybe the more experienced playersyeah for sure for sure. Well, DIDB. I have one last question, for youobviously actually have two so first, if you could change one thing aboutyour deck in Portland, what would you change or in Richmond? What would youhave changed and why? Well, there were two cards that Ichanged, and one of them was the inclusion of the shuckle and the otherwas the inclusion of the fourth gloom that confused anstead of flipped. Ithink I would still keep the gloom and the reason is that you can always justevolve it first, if you know you're not going to need it in the matchup, so Ijust kind of feel like why not play. Why not play you know that other gloomjust to Giyou Hav an option against...

...things. I never attacked it at once,but I still think it is probably it earnedit spot. I don't know I just feel like it. You want to have those you want tohave if it's never going to punish you which at never punished me or maybepunished me very like minimally, then you might as well have that option. Ifeel like yeah totally right, but that's just me being like that's justme being me, and I always do this kind of stuff, where I just like: Try toTweek it just a little bit give it that little JW Pike a little spice and thenthe second thing was yeah. The shuckle shuckle wasn't great on the day, but itwas had very specific uses and I mean definitely beat all right. o definitelyhelp me win my matchup against Michael Pramawat, so I think you keep it in. If you take it out, I would just addanother consistency card either the second Stevens or you know, or another bridget or anotherjuniper, or something like that. But I really do feel like the more I thinkabout the list. The more I feel like it is the optimalist and the perfect listand I'm excited to see how people do changes, because certainly certainlypeople will change it for Portland, but I'm excited to see how it is. I dothink that this is. You know, as close to a perfect list is,as I played in t a long time cool. I think. That's really good answer solast question for me. So every time I want a tournament,especially in Dallas. I felt there was a moment before long before I actuallywon the tournament. When I knew I was going to win, did you have a momentlike that in Richmond? And what was that moment? Not Really. I will say,though, when I found out that drew had prize both spritzy in game to that was a time where I was like. Ohwell. It just hit me that, like oh I'm going to the finals, you know that andthat's that's always something very special. You know it was really fun with thedeck, because a lot of the games were just the inevitability of it and itfelt so fun to just I don't know what being a wrestler is like, but I have toimagine that there was some aspect of that where you're like trying andtrying to get your opponent in a position where you can just win, butyou know that you're stronger than them, and you know that you're going tooverpower them. It's just waiting for that opening and position yourselfcorrectly, and so that's just really what a lot of the tournament felt like when I played against drew an top farthat second game. That was probably the closest I got to that feeling ofinevitability of winning the tournament, but I knew going against Chris and thefinals like it was just going to be a tough matchup, and I knew that if heplayed it well that you know I could easily lose so I definitely didn't letmy guard down, but but you know it definitely felt like ait felt like a tournament of destiny. When I played a o yeah prizing, thoseFritz, he had to nelt insane absolute O do well. Thank you. So much for yourtime, JW! Congratulations on our fantastic regional, wind, reallyawesome showing out there. I was cheering for you the whole way. I wasfreaking out when I found out the news, so really hats off to you, man, od, O and for everyone else and chat. Thankyou so much to all of you, we love all of you. We love all of our viewers onall of our podcasting platforms and on Youtube, and we will talk to you allnext week. Pace.

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