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Season 5, Episode 8 · 2 months ago

5-8. Sit Down, Silver Tempest

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back and slightly delirious.. sheesh! Come listen into the T4, the Tag Team Top Ten, for the upcoming Silver Tempest set!

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Yo, what is up? Guys? Welcome back to tag Team, the Pokemon trading card games for Mirror podcasting. Do oh. My name is Riley Hulbert, joined as always by my good good friend Mr J. W. Greenwall. G W. How's it going today? I'm doing well, Riley, Thanks for askin. How are how are you? I'm doing well myself. Yeah, definitely busy, definitely staying busy, a little bit exhausted. Um. In some ways, I'm a little bit thankful for the month break from Pokemon, just because I can kind of like catch up on real life for a bit before diving back in Pokemon. Is real life? Oh? Somebody say so? Yeah? Yeah, that's for sure. I haven't really I'm I'm doing well. Yeah, I can't complay. I had a ton of fun this past weekend for Halloween. I went to my friends work function, and I guess it was like an executive at their job. They had a whole freaking mansion and they had a gigantic shed where they had a haunted house that they forced all the guests to go through before it was insane. There was like there's like thirty people inside that haunted house like working it no way, Oh, my god, that's what that was gonna be. My question, right is because you know, you could go through a haunted house, but you know it's just all animatronic surgists I don't know or something, and this is this person's like shed, you know. I mean the shed granted was the size of like a two bedroom house, but it was insane. That is truly insane. I saw the giant skelly. Yeah, there was the twelve foot home depot skeleton with indoors where blogs from the elephants. So I had a lot of fun. Yeah, a due, well overall, how about you? You know, just the boys are keeping me up at night literally, um so you know, I just find myself going to bed at around nine o'clock. So this is ninety six as a time of recording. Now the sacrifices we put you through, I know, for real, for real. So uh no, that's good. It's good. It's kind of like my my little escape because I've been slacking a bit on Pokemon content just with the boys. So yeah, it's it's good to record this every week. I'm glad that we're we're keeping that outlet alive for you in this busy period. That's right. So for this week, j W, we're going to do a Tag Team Classic, which is to dive into a new set as it starts to come out. So preleases have big have begun for the new set, Silver Tempest, and we're excited to dive in this week with a top ten cards from the set, or as as I like to call it, the T four, the T four, Yeah, the tag Team top ten. Yeah, I guess. I guess we're debuting that now. You say you like to call it that, but I think this is the first time that's been uttered from your lips. The T two S T three the what the Tag Team's Silver Tempest top ten? Sure, I guess. So yeah. Really, letters really do be a thing, huh that they some may say, some may say r A j W T two S T three. I just like, what was going through your brain when you're like tep were It's definitely something I should say right now, you know, not much as going through my brain right now. It's kind of mushy. Alright, just check in, Just check in. So we are going to do a class to T four Tag Team top ten for this week. We'll go through top ten cards from the new Silver Tempest expansion. Honestly, it's a little bit of a lighter and expansion you know, we think about especially in the post COVID Pokemon landscape, even slightly before that. You know, you think of like Fusion Strike followed by Brilliant Stars, followed by Astral Radiance, followed by gosh, Lost Origins. It's I'm really pushing myself to the limit trying to remember the no, but it's but it's crazy, right because you I mean, we have all these major archetypes. Fusion Strike had Mew, Brilliant Stars obviously had archies, we Star Astro Radiance head Paul Key...

Dialogua, we had Lost Origin that gave us the Lost Zone engines that have been very prominent recently. And so it's it's been this kind of big crescendo where there have been one or more solid archetypes coming from every single set, as well as a lot of auxiliary pieces that have kind of enhanced a lot of decks as we've gone on here. Silver Tempest gotta say it's a little different than those. Yeah, I mean, when I think about the last few sets, I think of meta defining archetypes joined by a wealth of other powerful cards that would maybe enhance other decks. You know, you think of Ultra Ball and double Turbo Energy coming out in Brilliant Stars alongside the archetype of Archaeus Um. You have the Radiance coming out for the first time in Erada beings to powerful Engine coming out alongside Palkia, which would rise to be the best second format. And you have the austo An Engine and of itself is kind of like diverse and allows for meaningful gameplay decisions alongside like the UARTV Star. When we look at Silver Tempest, it seems a lot more like you really just got the best deck kind of out of the set. And that's that's kind of it, you know, in terms of movers and shakers. Yeah, we were joking that instead of a top ten, we were going to have a top nine. Today it's very hard to chew to flesh out a top ten list of cards, but we're going to attempt that, and I think we should just dive right into it. Yeah, let's go ahead and do that. So at number ten in the T T T T we have the Superior V Star. So kicking off, there's a ton of these stars in this set, and Superior we have sort of at the bottom of that list. Superior is certainly an okay V Star Pokemon. It does have the regal Blender attack where it does one ninety damage and allows you to move your energy in any way you like across any of your Pokemon, which is really flexible attack. You know, bless you for example, attack with the Superior and move an energy off your active Pokemon onto a safe bench Pokemon, or rearrange your energy in a way where you could come up with a surprise attacker on the following turn. Certainly not a bad attack. You're one You're not really one hit Kong hardly anything, but you're two hit kay Oing pretty much everything with that kind of damage. Yeah, and Grass has a bit of support, right. You can think about um, you know, Guardinia. You can think about the Cricket tot cricket tune line giving you extra HP. You can attack with the regal Blender attack for two energy a grass and a double turbo, so um, you know, it can get going pretty quickly and you can't move that double turbo around to Sugarcan Sugarcan. But you know, you think about V stars and it's pretty underwhelming considering we have V Stars like Pulky. Considering we have the stars like your Tina that can ramp up to higher numbers a little bit easier. You do also have the synergistic V star Power, so with three goal Blender you can rearrange your energy and then with its V star power star Winder, you use sixty damage for each energy attached to Superior, So in theory, you can move your energy around until you're ready to build up one final strike and knock your opponent for a lot of damage and potentially even move the energy off on the following turn. So Spirit, you know, the synergy is kind of there with its with its card design it's got for your treat as well, which lets its pivot as it moves the energy. It just feels like it's maybe a little bit lacking to get all the way up to the top of this list. That said, Superior will hold a special place in my heart because it's a great pokemon with great attack names. For um, you know, I hardly know her jokes. Thank you for your insight, star Winder, I hardly know our Yeah, I didn't really think about that, didn't really think about that prior to you mentioning it. But definitely potential is there, So maybe maybe we can force superior in a top archetypes that we can make that happen. Yeah, absolutely can't wait to say that. At the tables, do w what's our number nine card for Silver Tempest Coming in at number nine is a Lowan val Picks of the Star. A Lowan val Picks V Star has a couple of attacks. First, one is snow Mirage for one water into Colorless does undred and sixty damage and says this attacks damage isn't affected by any effects any opponents active Pokemon during your next turn, prevent all damage done to this Pokemon buyer. Opponents Pokemon with abilities, plenty of abilities out in the game right now that are very prominent in these main attackers, and so a lot...

...of the Baltics V Star has that kind of walling potential that has been good in the past at times. The v Star power is an attack Silver Star does seventy damage. It does seventy more damage for each of your opponent's Pokemon v in play, and so coming in for a free attack. I think that's extremely reasonable and certainly will be good against the likes of decks like mew v Max. Yeah, alone, volt Picks feels all right. I think the one most damning part about vol Picks, maybe the two most damning things is first, the low HP unfortunate. I guess it makes sense it's a vull pix, you know, not even in nine tails um. And the second thing is the fact that even the Pokemon that do have abilities, at least the v pokemonitors is the majority of attackers in the current day, and age can also remove thera bill at ease with things like Path of the Peak. You know, you think of like an Archaeus and Voltics seems like it's perfectly built to kind of like attack into archaeas um. You know, even with a double turbo it's reaching at one damage for the two hit ko. But most Archaeas X are playing Path to the Peaks, so you're not really right getting the blocking effect that you'd hope for. Yeah. Absolutely, I will say Voltics though, is a Lolan. Valtics in particular is one of my favorite pokemon, and this card is really cute. So yeah, I definitely love that they made the non fully evolved forms into these stars. But I think too on your point, you know, Path of the Peak is an obvious concern and then powering up you're a lowland vultis would be a concern for me. I mean water and two colorless. Of course you can do a water and a double turbo, but then you're cutting into how much damage you can do. It just seems like a lot of moving pieces here. Two not get a great return on an investment, three energy forty damage potentially there and an effect that against certain decks won't even be a factor at all. Right, you think about things like Guarantina, Um, do you think about anything that plays path like you said, um, yeah, it just seems like it. We would be remiss to not put it on the top ten. But there's a lot of things. There's a lot of situations, a lot of archetypes that come to my mind that just completely obliterate this card. Yeah, I agree, Um, I think it volpicks if it finds a place, will likely be, as you know, a tech attacker and in one of those like archist box type of decks. You know, that's where I see at home. It's home being m awesome. So let's go into our number eight then, which is another V star Pokemon b stars really dominating the list here in Reggie dragov Star. Reggie Draco is a really interestingly designed card. It's a card that I think got people really excited when it was first revealed, but then that excitement started a taper off. So Reggie DraCos one attack one ability has the Apex Dragon attack, where you choose a dragon Pokemon from your discard pile and use it as this attack for two grass energy and one fire energy. So basically you can use any Dragon's attack that you would like. You know, it could be the Dragon Knight that came out this set and accelerate energy into play. It could be Gudra's attack to reduce damage Dagon. It could be a Guarantine of the Stars attack to do mind blowing amounts of damage. The potential is certainly there with the amount of attackers that Reggie Draco has available to it. It's v Star Power, Legacy Star also Syndarodize as well with that attack, so you can choose from the top seven cards of your deck, you discard them all and you can put up to two cards from your discard pile into your hand. Doesn't have to be from those top seven either, so if there are cards that you want to recycle, you know, perhaps a Gardenia is bigger. You could do that with the reg Jigo like a C star V star power. Yeah, I mean the biggest thing that you look at here with the Ridge Drago. I mean, there's a number of solid um dragon attacks to copy. I think about things like Dragon Night vs. Attack. I think about um attacks like I don't know. I mean, you have the Dragon v comes to mind immediately just because of how much damage it does. You have Guarantina of course, um any others that like really come to your mind and stick out for the Regie Dragon deck. I mean I think I think Gudra is kind of the other um and maybe the the shred On draught on if you happen to never feel like mil tank, that's a good point. Yeah, yeah, that's just but there's you know, there's there's a few attacks out there...

...for from the Dragon Pokemon that are like, oh yeah, that's that's you know, maybe reason to play Drago. On the flip side of that, it's very hard to get this thing powered up. I mean we're looking at three colorless energy, which is kind of absurd, really unheard of in this day and age. To excuse me, three colored energy, Yes, exactly three colored energy is very unusual. Um, And in order to power up something like Reggie Drago, you are going to be looking at playing a card like Guardinia's Vigor, which allows you to detach up to two grass energy from your hand to your Pokemon and draw two cards, which is a pretty underwhelming, or at least historically, has been an underwhelming supporter. So getting the Reggie Drago set up, while it may have some decent attacks and useful attacks to copy, it's just getting to those attacks that's gonna be the hard part. Yeah, And I think the overall like poor quality of Gardenias as a substitute for Wilder or Melanie really can't be understated. It's just not a really effective mechanism too to power up a Reggie Drago, especially when Reggie Drago is also relying on filling up the discard pile. Right, So maybe you can get the Gardenias off and get a rich Drago in attacking position, but there's no guarantee at all that you'll actually have an attack that you want to use in the discard pile on that turn. By now, dear listener, have you started to suss out that we're not particularly high on this set. You know, we're just like slaying all the cards in the top to and here's why number eight sucks. I mean, I don't think it gets much better. But yeah, Reggie Drago, it's like it's one of those that it you know, maybe there's some kind of cool, you know, reason to play it, or maybe the metas if sent away UM that it makes sense to play it. But again, I'm just like comparing it to a lot of these other V stars that um can do more damage for less investment. And that's where I feel like Reggie Drago, while it has a swath of attackers, UM, you know, it's gonna be hard to get that first one going. If you can get that first one going, you can attack with dragon Night, the one that's released in this set. Energy Hurricane does a d damage a lot as you to search your deck for up to three basic energy and attach them to your Pokemon so you can like get the Reggie. You can get that first one going, you can copy the dragon Night, but then you have to get the dragon Night in the discard pile, and you're probably only playing one of them. Like it's just it's it's really awkward. I think this archetype is going to prove as we play it a little bit more, um, you know, r As players start to figure out quote unquote optimal lists for this archetype, they're gonna understand that it's really not how they envision it in their mind. It's one of those decks that in theory has all these things going for it, and then in practice just isn't quite as good as the other established archetypes. I think that's a that's a great summation there. It's a great theory. Mon sort of attacked, like, Yeah, if you get those cards turned to in the discerent pile in our attacking every single game, and you've probably got a pretty good deck. I would challenge how many games it's gonna happen out of ten. I don't think it's going to be a number that you're happy with. I doubt I doubt it. So en upset about Reggie Drago number seven, another underwhelming card, would say that rocks Man is the Irradian Serena with the ability gracefully healing once during your turn, you may heal twenty damage from each of your Pokemon has an attack, but it's not really the reason that's on the list here, Freak that's actually acceptably shot. Freagrant shot does ninety damage, and this Pokemon recovers from all special conditions. It's like such a random effect. It almost feels like I'd rather do a d En Nope, Oh for sure, Yeah, definitely, definitely. It's a really cringe e Pokemon. But the reason that we have it at number seven is that we've seen UM cards like this in the past. I think about Shaman from you know, a few years ago, where you could just have it with the Radiant or with the Venus or and Shaman tag team g X, where you could just you know, have that little boy on the bench or multiple little boys on the bench and just heal your main dude, your main attacker. UM Radiant Serena obviously similar vein there, and UM that consistent healing turn after turn has been proven to be decent and usable in the past. Yeah, I think there's...

...something there with Serena. You would need some sort of deck that wants to heal kind of across the board every single turn something, so maybe some sort of stall type of archetype things like that. I think when we look at the Radiant Pokemon of this set, Serena is the one that jumps out as being the most obvious to have potential um When I think of cars like Alcasama, it doesn't feel like it has a spot in the meta game right now. There's just not really a need for that kind of effect, whereas you could at least justify finding a combo or Serena makes sense. Yeah, we would be ormiss to not point out Radiant al kas Am not on our list, but allows you to move to damage couts from what you're opponent's Pokemon to another of their Pokemon. So there's maybe something there where you know, if you're not hitting for quite a knockout, then you can maximize your damage. But it's just so many decks can hit for knockouts, can hit those high numbers, and would rather use a different Radiant Pokemon that Radiant alikis Am doesn't feel like it's worthy of a spot on this list anyway. That all said, Radiant Serena comes in at number seven. Very underwhelming number seven. So let's then move into number six. I think this is where the cards start to actually have a little bit more promise, and that's gonna be reggin Lucky v Max in number six, so v max Pokemon not a V star, which is a little bit out of place with the rest of the cars that have been coming out recently. Reggie Lucky v Max finally getting free retreat as well, Regal Lucky, the fastest Pokemon the game, uh finally getting it's much deserved free retreat. It's also got a one retreat on the basic view, which is cool, and it has the transistor ability where basic Lightning Pokemon do thirty more damage to your opponent's active Pokemon. It's attack max understrike is fairly underwhelming, just two twenty damage and can attack the following turn. Ultimately, I think savvy listeners will immediately know where reggilav max is headed, and that's going to be with vehicable so Visible has struggled, namely due to its lack of damage pressure against decks that you know aren't based around lightning week Pokemon, or decks that maybe you can take a hit or two and then one shot of Vehicuable cards like reggl v Max allow you to put on a lot more pressure much more quickly. So Previously, if you're doing a D damage, maybe nine D damage with a combination of choice belt and a SAP dose. Now you can reach damage like one ten one t get two Regget lucky in play and now you're one and you're two shotting things with a item lock attack. So regge l V max with vehicle. The pental is certainly there is something that people are talking about, especially with cards like once later on this list that are weak to lightning. Cards like Palkia that are weak to lightning comfy also being one shot fairly easily by vehicle. So I think this card is a lot of potential. I just think the inherent problem is going to be the inconsistency of these vehqual decks. Uh. And that is coupled with now that you have another stage one that you're potentially trying to set up. Yeah, exactly. I mean that's kind of always been the case of the vehicle right where it's like, well, okay, I need to hit you know, I really want to get the turn one trainer lock going, and I need to get water in the discard, get the melanigue and an energy a lightning energy to attach and so again a lot of these moving pieces of big combo that you need on that turn one in order to just do what you ideally want to do and then you throw in a stage one into the mix. Does have a solid upside um, but it's I don't know it just it really makes me question, um, because we've had zap dose in the format, whether or not doing you know, thirty more damage is going to really you know, be the difference via bolt needed. Um, you know, the thirty extra damage maybe once or twice, it seems a full bench of To me, it seems like Reggel like he only hits its potential if you're getting like two in play and are now like two shotting v stars with a choice belt. You know, that's where I think Regel like he actually hits his potential if you got just one, it's like not really that different than it's having his apt does yeah, yeah, And like and you can say, well, granted, you are slowing the game down ideally right because you are item locking your opponents and hopefully that makes them you know, clunk up their hand their deck that kind of thing. But at the same time, you know, you're also playing more Pokemon in your deck and you're trying to get them all out on the first turn, and that's just proven to be very hard, um, even with cards like Battle v I...

...p pas to get out everything that you want on the first turn of the game. So um, it seems like it could have potential. Again, I'm not extremely down on Reggia Lucky here, but it's one of those cards that I well like, as has been the theme of the set, right there's like one shining star and then we're kind of grasping it trying to find a diamond in the rough. So there's definitely potential for Reggil Lucky here. I just am not sure what. I don't think it would be my first choice in terms of things to start testing for this format, and I think that would be very fair. Before we do the top five, though, how about we take a quick pivot and do a card of the day, so JW for this week, I have a fun card for you. It's pretty on theme, pretty on the nose with the set. So I'm not going to go and do a Polka X entry because I'm doing a Lugia card for this week and so Lukia being really the face of Silver Tempest, watch and find out where it maybe on the top ten. But maybe the answer may shock you, but A Lukia card that I'm particularly fond of is the Shining Lugia from the Sun and Moon from a series. Shinning Lukia was a card in early eighteen season that saw a lot of play across Malamar decks, in particular as sort of a spread damage finisher attacker, sort of one prize Pokemon. The reason I like Shining Lukia though, is because our group was super hip to this card potentially being good due to its resistance to Buzzwall Baby buzz Well being a really popular attacker at the time, its ability to one shot so ruas and Pokemon with abilities like or really really easily. And so we ended up playing Shining Lugia in our requas the g X vehicle deck at the Feeling Regionals that year. Andrew ended up getting top sixteen I think with that deck, and it was just really fun to play that card. It's really sick and I love a good colorless tech attacker. Do you still have all of yours from that tournament? I have one of them. Ah, you sold the other ones? Yeah, well it was it was two. It was it. It was a two of them, right or was it three? And we played like some elevated account. I thought it was three. It might have been three. I know I played because I have four of them and I would never like by more than I felt like I needed, Right, Yeah, I don't think we didn't play four or for sure, I want to say it was two, but maybe it was three. But either way, it was sick and it gives us a sick Pokemon. It's a huge fan favorite. I always asked my opponents, like what their favorite Pokemon is. Lucia is definitely up there amongst the answers that I received. Um, and Shining Luca is really cool because it's pink. It sure is, and you know, it's it's fun to play a nice little shiny guy. It's not just Lucia, he's Shining Lucia absolutely. Promo card for the like Shining Legends Premium collection or something along with those lines came with came with like a shining hoo Shining and a really ugly play that yes, oh my, who doesn't love a really ugly play that? I know? I do? So Shine Luke Yah. Yeah, it was a cool card. It's emblematic of, you know, the start of what end up being a pretty good season for me. And who doesn't like a good shining Pokemon card. And with that, I think we're ready to dive into our card of the day. I'm sorry, our god, we're tired today. Clearly, let's jump into thanking our sponsor for this week's episode in Manscaped. G w wan't you tell us a little bit about Manscaped? Absolutely? Yeah. Manscaped has been my go to men's grooming product for the last six months, eight months since we've been working with them more than that dude two years, for ten years, the last since I was a boy, since I was about a wee lad, I've been raised on Manscape product. Uh no, but seriously, they have quite um the lineup of products and everything from your nose hair trimmers, to the underwear, to the deodorant, to the shampoo, to the the specialty ball shaver that I just used the other day. They...

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And that's why it comes in at number five in a number four Riley, why don't you take us through our card at number four list? Yeah, our number four card is a special energy card on this list and that is going to be the V Guard Energy. So V Guard Energy is one colorless energy and it is more than that though, which is cool. And this card will actually prevent thirty damage anytime your Pokemon is attacked by your opponent's Pokemon V. So, for example, if you have a Blissy in the active and it has a V Guard Energy attached, your Archais opponent will now only do one fifty with a double turbo as opposed to so it does take a pretty significant chunk off of your opponent's damage, especially if you were to combine it with cards such as the Radiant card of Ore for example, to also reduce Pokemon V damage. The one unfortunate part of the art energy is you can't stack them, so cards like Blissy can't just flat out abuse it and get a twenty damage reduction. You do have to just stick to that thirty. But I think there's plenty of Pokemon that would really just appreciate that little boost tankiness. It's also a great card in decks like New two v Union for example, that might want to slight reduction in damage to make its healing strategy work. Yeah, definitely, it's um Again, I'm not I'm not like extremely excited about it, you know, it's it's something that you know, I thought immediately of, as you know, a tech in Blissy as a tech in Lucia. You know, those are the two that kind of jumped out to me as being, oh yeah, this this would slot in very nicely. But you know, kind of beyond that, not really a ton that it makes a lot of sense since you're looking at a lot of colored energy for most of these other decks, But it certainly has a place. I mean, this is something thing that damage reduction is generally a good thing, and if you can get it for free because you're accelerating this energy from the discard pile or from your deck, as is the case in the Blissy and Lucia decks, I think can get a lot of value from uh you know, maybe one or or two V guard energy. Yeah, I think really it'll boil down to attack in Blissi and Lucia as cars that can make the most efficient use of v guard, most targeted use of the guard energy. I don't really see it being a general tech across the board for example. Yeah, yeah, I would agree with them, all right. Coming in at number four, we have a supporter excuse me number three as please um And coming in at number three, we have our first supporter on a list that is and only true Serena has a dual effect choose one at state with two conditions, Uh, discard up to three cards from your hand. If you discarded any cards in this way, draw until you have five cards in your hands. So a decent little discard draw effect. And the second, of course, you're you're choosing one here is a switch. One of your opponents benched Pokemon V with their active Pokemon, so it has kind of a a bit of a draw element, it has a bit of a gusting element. Riley, what are your thoughts on Serena. Honestly, I don't love to choose one type of cards where both options are just worse versions of another supporter. So you know, the first effect is just a worse version of Sightser, which is already a bad supporter, and the second effect is a worse version of boss's orders. So I mean the argument is that it's a boss's orders that you could potentially draw with, right, That's the actual use of this card is not because it's particularly would at either of its effects. Um So in that spirit, like I don't really love cards like Serena, I do think there is decks that will find a happy home for Serena. For example, decks that really are only trying to gust the Pokemon in particular, but also would appreciate having a little bit more draw you know, I'm thinking things like Lucia primarily that I can appreciate the discard. You know, they don't mind that at all. In fact, they encourage it. They want the gust effect anyway, and they don't need to have like that many draw that many drap options over the course of the game after they get the initials set up, because they only really need to get those two archaeops into play and then they're kind of churning from there. So I think that's where cards like Serena will fit. I don't really see Serena fitting into broader decks as like a primary option, but it's a good secondary supporter if you need it. Yeah, I mean, we just think about with...

...with how decks are constructed right now, um, just how big hands get or or at least in an ideal match right like you're not you're not trying to keep a low hand size, like you're just trying to amass as many cards in hand as possible. You know, you think it will lost on decks with the colors is experiment um. You think of decks that aren't based on loss on decks that also play colors is experiment um. You think of the Italian engine that's just looking to you know, pick cards out of their deck to have this big hand so they can pull off combo pieces at the end of the get combo plays at the end of the game. So you know, right now, Serena, just with the way that the game is played feels like you said, extremely lackluster in the draw side of things and then has a worse version of boss wors on the other side of things. So, you know, we always talk about trying to have cards that UM can fulfill two functions, right you want to kind of optimize cards if you can. So we talk about this with our strategy or we're like, okay, if you can have a trainer card that has the effect of a supporter, then that's you know, maybe is something you want to consider. Or if you have a card that can UM put in, you know, work in a couple of matchups as opposed to one that's you know hard countering a single matchup, then maybe you would want to consider playing the card that's more versible. In this case, it's hard to, um, you know, suggest to go and completely change up the draw that your deck is already running to accommodate Serena. I think, like you said, it's going to be one of those that, you know, maybe maybe it's okay I need a seventh supporter, eighth supporter. Um, you know, maybe I'll just slap in a Serena, get a little bit of that versatility there, but not kind of focus a focus or force the entire deck around that card. Yeah. I mean, I would say for most decks like Serena's competing for slots with boss as opposed to draw cards, right, Like, if you're debating playing two versus three boss, maybe you play a Serena instead, or maybe you play to Serena one boss. Um. I think the only real major exception would be Lugia decks that can really leverage Serena well and don't need to draw that many cards once they're set up. Yeah. So I've said my piece. I don't think it's a it's a game changer outside of Yeah. So let's go then to our number two cards also a tool cards. That's kind of cool to tool cards in the top five and two tools on our top top five and two tools on the two tools top ten. So true. So the second tool here is going to be the Forest seal Stone. So for a seal stone, we've talked about it before. Is a way to unlock the V star token in decks that don't play V Star Pokemon. So primarily we're thinking of decks like Blissy, like Mew, like Vehicle Volt that play VS already but don't have access to a V Star power. Um Mew probably being the single biggest, biggest benefactor because it's not affected by Path to the Peak. So let's actually talk about the effect. Uh. It has the V Star Power star Alchemy where once during your turn you can search your deck for any one card and put it into your hand as your V star Power, So half of a star Birth on a tool card. What is maybe better than Starbirth though, is you have the flexibility of being able to put it on any V Pokemon, So you could even use this turn one if you draw it, you know, get that battle v I p pass um and it we could use. It can be used under Path to the Peak, so it's great insurance against the late game path Rock sand Combos. I love this card that's the first time I've said that all night. But just I I love this card because it's it's um it gives, you know, it adds this additional depth to decks that we currently have, But it doesn't. It doesn't make anything like overpowered, right it it seems right. It maybe speeds some decks up, um you know Mew for instance, again like you said, you know, maybe getting more outs to battle the I P pass on the first turn, whatever, but that's not that doesn't feel like um uh you know crazy. That doesn't put the deck over the edge. But I just love this card because of its versatility. It doesn't feel like it's a UM you know, it doesn't feel like it's an overpowered ability to have for v Pokemon, And it brings a lot of these decks that UM aren't utilizing of the star power of the star Attack kind of into...

...the fold. I think it's really cool with like you said, Vehicle, it's really cool with me. You could be really interesting with Blissy, um, you know, could be interesting with all these different decks, and the versatility of the card just makes it so appealing to me. I totally agree. I think they did a great job kind of balancing this one too. It doesn't feel like overwhelmingly strong that you would like use it over any other V star power. It's definitely worse than cards like archias Um, but you know, it has that extra layer of flexibility to it where you can play in kind of any deck that plays V Pokemon already. Plus it just it's good for game feel as well. I would argue like, it sucks to play a deck that doesn't have a V star Power and just have like a useless token and you're already playing V Pokemon. It just feels bad, honestly. Yeah, And you're and you're countering the kind of you know, power of just choosing any card for me to deck with the fact that there's no h great um tool searching in our format right now, and so that you know, if you're gonna play for a seal Stone, you might want to play multiple copies. But if you're playing multiple copies, then you know you're kind of losing those options for consistency, you know. So so I think that you know, again, for a seal Stone is good for the decks that have needed and wanted of the star power but never had a way to incorporate the Star Pokemon. I totally agree. I think it's a great card design. I a huge fan. I think it's a really solid card and well deserved number two slot. Yeah, I can't wait to play with that card. So coming in at number one, I don't think it's a surprise to anyone. It is the darling of the set, Lugia v. Star Riley. Why don't you tell us a little bit about Lugia and it's partner. Yeah. So, Lucia of course is the star of the set, like j W said, and the main reason is through its v Star power. So Lujia wields the summoning star power and so once during your turn you may put up to two colorless Pokemon that don't have a rule box from your discard pile onto your bench. Now, in of itself, this power is good, but maybe not like number one in the set worthy. But thanks to another card from this set, Archaeops, this card is absolutely insane. So our Chaeops typically a difficult Pokemon to get out because it's a fossil evolution Pokemon can be put directly into play with Lucia on the second turn of the game, and as the primal turbo ability which searches your deck for too special energy and attaches them to one of your Pokemon. And with Luca's power, you can get two Archaeops into play on turn two, which can then accelerate from your deck for special energy cards. I mean, I don't think we've ever seen an acceleration ability quite like that. That is absolutely insane. Yeah, the fact that it's special energy is really really cool, really kind of scary. Um. But yeah, like you said, something that we've never seen before because you think about the special energies and kind of the the appeal of the special energies is that, um, you know, throughout pretty much the history of the game, Um, you've been able to like attach your one special energy right, it's been again special, especially that one turn attachment. But recently with Reggie Drago or excuse me, the Reggie Giggs deck been able to attach multiple and now with the Lugia deck, it just goes to a whole another level. You have a lot of these really cool special energies that have been underplayed for the most part, um, that now have a chance to potentially shine with this Lugia deck. And I think it opens up a lot of exciting possibilities you think about, um, I mean we talked about the v Guard energy, but you think about Aurora energy and all the tech attackers that you can play, Um, you think about uh, you know, double Turbo twin getting attackers, you know, all of the powerful colorless Exactly. There's just a ton of cool special energy that really slotted nicely with that archetype. And it's not like there's a really a drawback to only being able to choose special energy either, right, because I mean there are special energy for every energy type now that are always colored on any Pokemon. It's not like they're you know, restricted to only their specific type. So it's not like you're losing anything by playing the Archaeops and only playing special energy. It is just strictly and it's then acceleration option. Yeah, absolutely, I mean really really cool. I like the thing about the Lugia is that it's it can be so tailored to any meta game and that's what's so exciting.

And it's a little bit scary too, because you think about playing this for Latin America, if you happen to be going to that International Championship or maybe even Toronto the next week, is you gotta know what to put in this deck to counter the meta game that you're expecting, because that's going to be a huge part of it. You know, if you're expecting a lot of um, you know, Lukia, maybe you have lightning attackers. If you're expecting a meta game that's all over the place, maybe you go for you know, the amazing vel toll Um. You know, there's just a lot of different ways you can play it, especially with that Aurora energy that are really exciting but you know, really scared at the same time. You can definitely like make deck building errors in terms of choosing what you want to have as the tech attackers. I totally agree, and let's not forget Lukia does have a fairly solid attack as well, at least when combo with the archaeas or sorry, with the archaeos. So for four calls you do have tap this dive which does to twenty for four not really great, but when you can accelerate for energy from your deck every turn and potentially three or more of those are powerful colorless now you're easily hitting to eight three D three thirty with toys belt type of damage to one shot. Anything that could possibly be on the field with a big tanky the star Pokemon. Yeah. Crazy to think about, for sure. So I mean Lugia to me is I don't think Guarotina had quite the dominance of like Pakia and Archias before it, But I think Lucia is a car that is poised to take that level of spot. It's just so absurdly good. Yeah, for sure, So we will see. I know I will be testing heavily Lugia. Whether or not it will be the deck that I end up choosing for Toronto remains to be seen for sure. But it certainly has a lot going for it in these preliminary theory mon ideas of decks and how format will shake out. And you know, I'm excited to put some put some time into this Luvia deck because I think not only will it be good, I think it'll be extremely fun. It'll definitely be fun. Accelerating special energy from the deck is awesome. That's lit, bro, It's freaking lit. D What texts do you think are freaking lit? Why? Why you hit us up on social media? Tweet the decks that you think are lit? What? What was going through your head before? What? Probably more thoughts than we're going through your head earlier. If I had to wager, you're probably not wrong, but for real, you can check us out on social media if you want to stay up to date on what's going on in our testing as we get geared up in the silver up this meta game. My Twitter is Smiles with Ryles. You find W at Real John Walter, and you can find the podcast at tag team Pokemon and we also record live every single week at twitch dot tv slash Monner. You can also find JW on Twitch and YouTube at flex Daddy. Righteous see four hopefully met your expectations. It's again it's a little bit of a underwhelming set, but we're excited. Those top cards are really some high end cards right like for Seal and Luigia especially are amazing cards. It's just the breath is not quite there with this set. Yeah, I definitely don't buy boxes in the set. Um. Yeah, there's just like a lot of stinkers. No sad, but thank you all so much for listening. Guys, we appreciate your listenership. As always, I'll see on the next one. Peace. Si.

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