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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 1, Episode 7 · 2 years ago

6. Pure Flames from Latin America

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All right what dies that feverybodywelcome back to tag team, I'm rehost, Riey holvert joined by my good friendand the most recent original championship on this podcast Jw QrewellJW, how you doing today, I'm doing great Riley. How are you I'mdoing pretty? Well, man I'm doing pretty well. I was on like a travelodyssy. It felt like for multiple weeks in a row and I'm finally back in myapartment for Lenyo to you didn't give me any notice. Bro, I well. It was likewell established, Ind Shat, where I was going and Wen. I know I just I miss it. I'M MIS YEAH! You definitelymiss that one. It's all right, though, so we're back in town we're having agood time- and I mean last weekend- was a pretty important weekend and in theFokmon season, wouldn't you say absolutely. The first internationalshappened in Brazil last weekend and it was the first big tournament withcelestial storm and format. EPLESS yell start s the legal for awhile dw yeah, but the first like big tournament are not Slecias Aror, cobior,quits coyeah cos. I was like ces yeah al. Whatever see, but it's CEC ofcourse, but my brain is stupid. It's okay, man, yeah, so COSBIC ECLIPS hasburst on of the scene and honestly it's had a pretty big impact on on the gameswere seeing it. A lot of old favorites are still showing up strong, but quitea few either new or heavily modified decks ar also entering the fray, and Ithought it was a really exciting tournament from start to finish, seeinghow things developed and what people's perspectives were into this newmetagame yeah, it was pretty interesting. I meanwe saw a lot of things that I were surprising to me. I will say you knowwe talked a lot about ADP last week and just that was a big surprise, just howbig it was, and then we saw things that just dex that we hadn't even conceivedof, I think particularly of the way that dolstal was constructed. I thinkjust the ways that they incorporated some of the cards was a little bitdifferent than what I was used to seeing and then yeah also Negana delGuzlord kind of bursting out of this scene as a new archetype was really exciting yeah. So there wasa ton of different things that happened this weekend and frankly, I think weshould just start from the top and we can work ourway down and then we can kind of take a look at our expectations versus thereality and kind of compare how that panned out so sure. In the end, the top dog, the championof Laic, was Robinschal's former world champion and now an internationalchampion with turbo rushizard a decat. I think a lot of people were notprepared for for this event or wrote off going into this event. The loss of giant Harth, notnecessarily the loss, but the the power of chaotic swell over your bility trolgiant Harth, definitely scared a lot of people away, especially since there isalready a mindset that abilities are as kind of inconsistent, has problems andall sorts of different ways, but I mean really robin made that deck lookbeastly in the end, with welders all over the place, tons of damage hittingthe board very quickly. What are your thoughts on ability? reches are dw, I mean, I think it's cool. I think it'svery much a high roll deck not to take anything away from Robin's performance,but I will say that I took his exact decklist to a league challenge lastnight and went to to, and one of my wins was a by, and so so it just felt. You know throughoutthe rouns that I played in, and you know, obviously just as the deck as I'eplayed the deck throughout the season, because I have played it in a few otherevents. This season it just if you hit the welders early and you can welderonto an appropriate target. You feel like the world's your oyster, and ifyou don't do that, then things become very, very difficult, so really strongdeck choice I felt like for the metagame. I think it definitely handlesADP, which was a surprisingly high amount of the field, and then you knowit also has pretty positive matchups against stalbecks has decent matchupsagainst. You know just things like Malamar a Dand even has a decent match, op against mouto. So I thought it was just a greatdeck choice all around for that event. Looking ahead, I don't know if it wouldnecessarily be the best, but I mean Robin did a great job. He highrolledobviously well enough and got it done yeah and no doubt it was a very strong deck choice for Robin. Iwill say I echo the sentiment that the deck is kind of high rolly. Your hots with that deck ar insanelyhot and your colds are very cold, is...

...usually what what I find and I thinkthe reason that you experience. That is because, if you hit the water early,you're drawing cars and you're drawing into the next welders, but if you'rewhipping welderis you're not drawing cards as effectively you so yeah, I aharder to find the subsequent once right right. It can be hard to chainright because, usually you like you, either go welter into dedene or viceversa. And then off of that you find the other piece and then the next turn.You do the same thing. And so and then you build up these massivehands and then you can, you know, attach for turn and Gust and do allthese cool things, but yeah miss things like attaching foturn, well yeah, andthe other thing I found to was when I played when I played the deck yesterday,like just how important the Jirachi is being able to kind of hide behindGaraci in the first few turns set up aboard h the Games that I lost. Ididn't see a DRATCI for the entire game, like it wasn't. Even that that you knowDrachi didn't give me anything as I didn't even star Draci, I didn't drywinto Drachi off. Well, there's like Jroshi was a huge part of of thesuccess of the deck just to be able to chain those pieces, the Dana and welder,and all the other things that you need to make that deck work. So you know so we'll see. I don't knowthat the deck changes anything I mean. I think he had the definitive listgoing forward. You know we kind of saw the evolution of this deck from towardsworld's list going with things like acro bike to no, this just verystreamlined fireless right with a bunch of fiers.We just you know you', just hoping to hit the welder and- and if not you knowyou might have a bad time yeah I got to say I am very much a fan of of robinsLiss and the way he approached it it just simple and straightforward: don'tneed to rely on fire crystal because Wi hat's not a think anymore. So, overall,I think et's just a strong, solid choice by Robin, but looking at secondplace, though we had a deck that I I like to think that you and I were bothkind of expecting to have a good performance in Youtune Ugx, so yeah youtu Ne Meu, obviously a staple thelast format I mean definitvely. The best teck of last format, I would say,continues to have a strong performance with some new aditions in Mekalawpani.In the tag call and some of those tag. Supporters like Guzmonhalla, I think,was a big addition being able to grab stadiums being able to grab h RainbowEnergy to be able to use some more attackers. I think most successfulyutudecks played like one rainbow, at least alongside the Goozmonhala, justto be able to have that easy out to and energy right. What do you think of the changes thathave been made to Mouto and do you think that will continue to have strongenformances in this format? Just like it didn't last yeah, it's really cool. It's reallycool. I think meedsis great deck right now and just the consistency of it getsboost boosted. You mentioned the Goozmahala being able to search out theyou know the Rainbow Energy, but also the weakness card energy. So that's abig boost y. You have that search. I even dont think many people at allplayes Arhashi gx in Oh yeah, it right Dratchi Y rgxyeah. Absolutely I don't think I saw any list from top like sixteen thatplayed Gerachi Gx, which that might thet might just be the wave of thefuture right, just going, Geraci, less and Refr. You know relying a little bitmore on the weakness cared energy right, I thinknou to was really well poise. We kind of both hit on it right. We would havesaid, hey th. This is probably in our top three choices heading into theweekend and it definitely performed extremely well. I like the DeckArchetyp, you have an answer to everything, especially with theinclusion of Grinincha. I like that as well. You know, obviously, if youexpect to see a lot of ADP, then Ght for I ldio. You need to find a way toget around that, and so I liked just the way that those decks were built andthey felt very strong. I, like the TAG, call encine. I think that's incrediblyconsistent from you to because just like drawing three is often a good, you know is often a good effect. Iguess like Offocynthian Kaitlan, because a lot of times you can get yourboard set up to a point where you're, accelerating your own energy or you'reattacking, for you, know fewer energy than other decks, and soyou can kind of afford to not have to welder, as opposed to abilities, ardwhere you want to hit wel ter every single turn in a deck like Mo to youcan afford to you know: Cynthian Calin Malloan Lana, because you don't need toattach as many energy every single term yeah and we actually saw stuff like theMa Alamabky and the seniors finals, I'm for blanking on both of the playersnames but being able to consistently heal that mutu against the Kaldeos andkind of Getin. This weird heel war, where t the Grinija Vorso the Killdeo,both are kind of a Toatko, and you need to Mell alonof that off yeah was notonly very interesting, but without the...

Malalana that would have been a losseven with the Greendagx, so really Al Rigt to see the Mala Moni card. Just really surged allowe all over the place this weekend, ind all sorts of decks and all sorts oftrategies as just a strong heel and switch option kind of like we expected.I mean, I think, by the time LIIC roll around. We alt knew how good that cardwis going to be right. So, looking further into the topeight, we had a couple of different decks. We had ADP a deck that weweren't very hot on. We have BOT Sephelon, which we also probablyweren't, that hot on and a couple of other decks like doll stallmade top eight Yep and I think another ATP, I'm blanking on the last teck of thetop. A do you remember what it was I mean it could have been blossuffelon right. There was a baby blouns. I knowthat whifts top eight okay- maybe maybe that's what I was thinking of- I can'tremember the last one- then was it another. Was it another staldeck I'mpulling it up now, let's see et'l see dollstall Ohgustavohad his Guirtina Garchop, that's right, okay and like it's like no wonder. Wecan't remember that because the list isn't even out e Yeah Causetava's listare always super private. He never really post them to social media oranything so yeah, of course little in the dark. But he is I from what I've heard. It wasvery similar to Jimmy and grants NAGGAT GUSLORD list, except it playsome additional Pokemon and more of a Greens engine so yeah your Liet on thatMis Magis, Yous Gat, a beast ring kind of thing, but he also had an the star to to have better chancs,ganst, all and stuff, like that. Yeah very interesting, very interesting,I'll, be curious to see when you know, pogamoncom puts that list up I'll, becurious to see what he played but yeah, a very diverse metagane. I would sayyou know just a lot of viable decks ore. A lot of decks that were played thatdid well and I be interesting to see how themedagame continues to evolve. One of the biggest surprises from Laic for mewas just to see how well ATP showed up like there were just a lot of playersthat played ATP. I saw statistic from one of the you know. One of thewebsites that said about a quarter of the field was ATP, and that was shockbecause that felt extremely high. I was not thinking that the deck would show up in such such big numbers, butapparently it took a really strong hold amongst the players in in Latin America and they brought it infull force. Yeah I mean no doubt that strategy wasvery popular and, I think kind of makes sense. It's very cool popon they staredenergy and they take extra pizes, all of which are falling cool mechanics, soyea doesn't surprise, be H, APAs popular. So I will say, though we were not veryhot on ATP going into this event. We said it would probably be verypopular, but we did not like the deck. How do you think ATP did relative toour expectations and what do you think has your opinion shifted on ATP? Do youthink it's still kind of men? Do you still? Would you take it to atournament? Do you not like it? What's the yeah my initial opinion on ADP, Imean I was very down on it. I thought it was a bad choice. I thought it was.You know, kind of a bad deck and I'm kind of feel myself repeating that,even though it did have a top four and a top a placement, it just felt likethose came off the backs of there being so much of the field that played ATP Ikept seeing on the stream. You know there would be mirrors, and I have toimagine that a lot of the ATP players played other ADP players, and so I can't help but feel that the resultswere skewed a little bit because of that, because so many people played Atband certainly there was enough. You Know Dolf stall and Malamar, and you know- and they gotthrough enough of the decent matchups to to grind their waysst into top eight,but I just don't feel like ATP has any staying power and the reason is you getcrushed by resshizard and I don't think you have that Grat of a match upagainst moutub. No, I agree. I mean the RASHISZARDGames. VERS ATP did not look very good. There's nonjx attacking options deal aKeldio. You can Kao the ATP before they can even accelerate, which is that'sgame over pretty much like there, especially if you have answers to killhe if they try to stall yeah like I don't really dive with the deck. Personally,I don't like. I don't like the fact...

...that you basically have to pause for aturn right. I think that's my biggest problem with a decade. Is You? Wellthat's right, yeah, and we discussed this on the podcast last weekwhere Iwas saying: okay, some of the weaknesses of the deck are that youjust get. You give your opponent a free turn at the very least right, so yougive them a free turn when you have to Gx and and all the successful deckswere forced to do that because they didn't play ends resolve yeah. Theywere forced to attach manually three times and then, if the metagame is allyou know, things like Malamar or other one prize deck that maybe don't move soswiftly, then you're in a good spot. You know you have that time to set upor if theire decks, thatis get into that to hit Kao war with you yeahexactly, but then you have dex that can one shot very easily on turn to and ofcourse, you're going to get. You know wrecked there if you have to just sendup your guy and and use your Gx, and it's just. I don't understand how ATPdoes well moving forward yeah, I'm kind of torn. I I don't think the deck is as good asits representation. I 'll say that much rog right, I think it's a decent deck.I think it's a good deck, not a great deck, but because it was so heavilyplayed. A good deck will do well enough over that many players to make somegood placements. That being said, it is a good de. It has, I think, the biggestthe really big calling card forit is the Keldeo realistically in the factthat you get to, you know, have check mat scenarios just by putting multipleceldeos active and you take prizes quickly with them, and I actually thinkthe thing that really makes the Keldeos good is they do that thirty extradamage undred and forty? I A significantly better number than oneten right, almost ridiculously. So how good that extra thirty damages onKeldao, so you know the it all kind of you know all jibes. It makes sense, butI agree with you and, like I said, that extra turn that you give your opponentpotentially to extra, turns if you're attaching and then attaching again andGexing, that's a lot of time that your opponent has to just kind of dowhatever they want. So I think, there's a couple different ways that we've seenfor people to try and speed that strategy up. Not a lot of them reallytopped very well, but I think answer resolve and therequesagx are pretty much the main excelerantes that we've seen wellJankins, echoing they usen't think any pecs very good and the chate. Do you think either of those are apotential option to help passh up ATP, or do you think it's still just like orits this kind of gimmicky or it's just not good enough or what are yourthoughts there? I mean, I think. Well, I just think that nothing can reallyhelp ADP to the point that it brings it to Tiar one I think it will be like ATPwill remain ter to just because it does take good matchups to some viable decks. However, I don'tthink it'll ever crack that you know that Tier One placement like I don't think it'll everbe the go to deck right. It'll always just beat that kind of metagamespecific deck, and so as long as it remains there. I don't think anythingcan change that, like I don't think an ends resolve adding ends to resolvehigh counts of that can change it. I don't think addiing Rik Uaza, I don'tthink adding like a Goosmahala engine. I don't think adding anything can breakit out of tar too. I think it's just going to remain there just because thematchups to me feel so polarizing that even that extra turn isn't going to help you against a decklike reshazard, yeah, so yeah. I totally feel that and I'minclined to agree a deck thats, so matchup heavy will typically not be thebest Dick in any given format so yeah if you're a fan of ATP and you're.Listening to this or watching this, I implore you to prove US wrong,because it's a cool dea, I just don't think it has the stones to get thereright now. Well, WE'RE READY! I mean we're ready because a lot of people say:Okay, Oh Atpis, going to be really good. We can hear things like. Oh Russhi, rom is going to be good. Thatwas a total flop. That's for sure, dises sous. I think those people thatare clinging to ATP and saying it's the best teck in the format like ourelittle bit delusional. I may be speaking too strongly against it. Iagain, I will say it's tear to, but it's kind of like show US show uswhat it can do and I don't think that it has the stones to be Toyour one fairenough, so I think those are some of the biggestdecks were looking at going into this weekend, where some of that firearchetype and ATP another one of our favorite decks was baby wes sefpeon,yeah, evil Seplon was not overly represented in this Meta, but it seemeslike it did pretty well with the...

...players who did play it. What are yourthoughts on that deck? Being able to Wunch out with the one prizor seemspretty good to me, I mean that seems like kind of one of the premier oneprize Tex, moving forward yeah. We kind of talked about that lastweek to just being a very solid choice: iy had a decent representation ofd thepeople that played it in day too, you know got you know, did did decently well like itdid about, as I expected it to with one bubbling at ninth, and I think it was adeck that could have won the tournament, but I do think it takes kind of anawkward match up to ATP. It's seems about Fi fifty, maybe a little bitfavored, definitely not an auto win by any means. So I feel like we're kind ofa victim of the format I feel like moving forward. It should be evenbetter just because you probably have decline of ATP Arizan Abilities, ARD,which feels like a decent, if not good, matchup, and then our increase inMalamar, which should decrease mouto D, need to can get kind of weird if theycan like cross, divine Mowmas, really bad though, but if ADP isn't played, then Malamarshould increase. Well, then pesepaon sucks of Mot Mar is popular. Well,that's I mean it's all kind of like this weird we're going a weird light:Yeah Yeah, that's true! That's true. I meanif ound Mare's popular Thaf Pyol just play atob right there you go so and then you just play Turvon fire inevery meadow and just be like whatever Everad hit. Well, ause, yeah h exactly so any thoughts on how the deck kind ofdeveloped, I think one thing we didn't call at all was the adition of Liliespokidoll being in the deck. When I saw that on stream I was like wow. That's areally slick idea. Super Awesome, so do you think that'll probably be the fromIEUR way to play it moving forward. That'll probably stick, I think, with adeck like that, you just you want to build your hand size up, and you canafford to do that and I think in that Meta. Specifically, people opted forgreat catchers over custom catchers, so you do get that extra turn that extratwo, sometimes three four, I mean almost ifparents right because thepocedolls go back to the go back into the de. They get parted at their caodright. They get discarded as o Kayot, but, like you get those extra turns andso yeah, I think that's going to be theway to do it moving forward, because sometimes it could be hard to get thoseearly attacks off with the Bliephalon deck right Righ, but the the poky dosolves that so early game. Then another question is: Do you think great catcherwill remain the premier gust effect, or do you think people will will maybe consider adding customcatchers back now? That dolls have seen play and not only the Sephylon but inalso adoll staldeck and customs is generally useful against single prizedacks a remains to be seen yeah. Would youconsider adding custom Sany deck that that we talked about so far again? I think it's kind of Metaspecific right. If you do expect people to play dolls at Your Cup or at. I guess your regionals then yeah.Why not? You know, I think it's kind of metaspecific, suregreat catchgen, just so great catches, just so strong, it'sgreat, they think iis great awesome, yeah, I mean Gray Catcherisinsane. It's! I think it's a hard Sele to go back to customs, with greatcatcher in formant right, exactly it's not onus more reliable and I takelessspace like yeah yeah. Exactly so you have that other room to kind ofdedicate to your you know, other consistency or some more. You know tagteam supporters. Things like that. I mean it's just really really really a nice card on all fronts,especially if you expect the next like me to the next, like reshisard Tude, todominate yeah. So those are a bunch of decks that I wanted to hit on. I wantto turn the ball over to you, though. What are some decks that you wereimpressed by and want to talk about coming out of the LAAIC metagame yeah?I was really impressed by by dolls, like I loved the Good Sigi to what's that good segue into dolls too.I know right yeah. I was really impressed by dolls. I thought I mean. Obviously I had the showing inbaby blounds, but but just as its own archetype, I've been messing aroundwith it this week and it's just very cool. I love the way the list werebuilt. They were, you know, kind of, took out a lot offluff that maybe I thought was necessary, so things like crushingHammer, you know you don't really necessarily need that and just made it as streamline aspossible. I think it is very beautiful when that deck works and when you getthings going like is such a good metaphor. We're talking about peopleare playing great catchers instead of customs, and it's just a strongarchetype that has a place in this...

...format and it's really an exciting deckwhen it works. I totally agree as really impressive tosee it climb to the ranks with multiple players at this tournament. I do think it was so sad, though,because the the doll tol got matsh against this Pasepalon and top hatethat played stingergx and the baby will sapfle on Wor yest. That's just like anautolass yeah right right. So and that's kind of the cool thing, thoughabout the deck is like the lock, is very, very strong. The lock is very,very strong, but there are some text in some ways around it. So yeah youmentioned the Blesephalon player. You know anything that spreads stingergx ishuge. Things like feon can sometimes get youaround it. CRIAGANAL is a good tech. I mean there are ways to beat it, and Iguess custom catchers and like a rengre would be another way to beat it theireways to beat it, but if you're not preparing for it, then you know it justbodies. I yeah custer Cetcher angr s would be a funny way to go about that. I mean if you were really worried aboutit. Ri Wen you play a Rangerin custom, catcher yeah for sure. So some of those counters, though all havethat kind of you know worldpool effect where nowthere's a counter on the doll side to deal with the counters. So youmentioned cravinal, which was surprisingly popular in ATP, I wouldsay a lot of the streme daty PDEX had criognal yeah, which I wasn'tnecessarily for seeing that to be that popular, but I mean clearly a goodchoice and but then, on the flip side, some of the doll stop players played aSpiri team in a Rainbow Energy which can kao the Cryaganal and then all of asudden. The lock is back online. So as long as the crogknill didn't take likefive prizes, you're good to go right O, but then of course it loose tack aroundwhere some ATPS are playing two CRIBS, your CRA ONA, a second crag anal. Ithink its impossible to be with curren state lists so because the only way to get theSpiritam in the rainbow back is with Mo Bunchlack, which answerturn is in ffifty to start with. So it would take like a couple of words average to get it back, and then youHav the charge: U Ofe, Tet or anything use it, and then you can't even use itthat turn right, because Hou got the builds fight for two turns yeah it'so's, so yeah I don't. I don't really knowhow you can be double crag and all to be honest. I guets double Spiri Tum andDouble Rambo, but it's like we're Gong. This thous,weird ravel or you end up just playing a steer Tom Deck, yeah you're, actually just playing fourspirit whom, with with you, know, Munchlack at a couple dolls. The for you have to cut the floor justline to fit in your thick spear. You want right right, yeah. This seemsreally good, yeah, so yeah I realy, I think the rabbithole probably stops at one spirit: uin One rainbow for the doll side, wew,maybe to Spiri to Mita Rando or something like that. But it's funnyright because you talk about this rabbit hole. I think that's a good kindof kind of expansion on just the format as a whole right,because, if you say okay, ADP can't be reshisard, then maybe that you know andRussias are just one the tournament you expect there to be a lot of reshslarts.Maybe you don't play ATP, but then, if you don't play Aep, then maybe malamarkcan rise again. It's just kind of this whole cyclical thing as well. What isyour kind of take on how the format shifts based on Leic? What what weshould expect from this next weekend in response to what just happened, I think the format will be kind of inFlox for a while and the reason I think that ishistorically, I feel like American metagames if we're looking specificallyat America, but I think this supplies to all regions are kind of rigid ind,how they approach the game, and so they will not shift based on necessarilywhat they see they'll be influenced, but they won't wholly shift. So I thinkthey'll be keep. You know, Maulin mark completely flopped. Basically, I thinkKatron was like the only player to do anything with Mallowaren. It wasn'tanything fantastic either. Yeah people still play Malomar. A lot of peoplestill play Mamar an they'll. Try it out a lot of peouill play more traditionalmutuvarience without what psychic and fire and and for welders, and that's it. So I think a lot remains to be seen forhow people are going to approach this metagame, and I don't think la I seealone- is going to be prescriptive for what you see an thits just going totake time to develop. I mean, if you think, about last year, ARANGAROOZORARCONE LAIC and then all of a sudden like...

...guardiar and ZORC Dosintuite, nine tales and Rasortlike anront came back out of nowhere and then and then buzz garb. Shrinecame back after being, like bead is like the metigame for lost thunderlast year, developed in such a bizarre way and ended up with a ridiculousamount of JAK, and I won't be surprised if COSMI ECLIPS ends up in a verysimilar jrejectory. It feels kind of similar and how it's panting out rightnow, yeah yeah! Well and then you got to think like okay, if you know, if fires good well, what ifpeople play just a direct counter to fire right, they just play like just a straight waterdeck like Isaw this kind of locally at the at the challenge that I went to yesterday,where everyone was playing fire. So water did really well like a Veporiondeck and then the other necker did really well like hilariously. I thinkit won. The tournament was n a a Selazal handdeck right, thatisverybody's, if everybody's playing the firedeck and they don't play any resetstamps, then Sazel hand just bote. It was really that's actually very veryfunny should be pretty fun. That's actually very funny, Soso lasal hand. Imean, I think, jw saying conclusively to everyone who's listening orwatchining. The show that Elazel hand is the decto lay in this tournament orany timen youhave coming up in this medagain yeah. If you take anythingaway from this podcast, is that Salazal hand is the play for sure O low? We do have man, we dohave some questions in the Chavelero says: Do you prefer the Katcher Mettaor the Guzma Meta from last year? I think Catcher Medas are more fun toplay because you get the draw a lot of cars and then play your catchers N. Ido think it's a little more fair to have to support her to gust, but it's kind of offset by the fact wedon't draw ton of cards in this format, so I I think I like the way this year spanning out better than last year. So far I had to say I actually. I wouldsay that it's I don't know I feel like. I feellike it's better now, because you have less gust than last year rightbecause you could play you know for Guzma or you could play. I don't knowwhat we stall Abese via Seker right last year and formaalityas got ven isgood last year. If we didn't have so many of like good droptions, like youhad a, I think, particularly like a ranger instract was really good. Youhad stor Ark to just continue to draw into Guzmas yeah I mean you could playfor Grat capcer, but like there's not enough to raw to o et that anymore yeahwell right, but the problem with like playing for Grat Catcheris that it'snot as versabile as Aguzma right Aguzma could bring up a nongx. So if you wantto bring up an Ongx, you have to play great catchers, but then you're onlylimited to two and you have to draw exactly you know when you need. Youknow you have to draw to exactly when you need them and you lose the abilityto gust for your second time, if you donto that you know those other two inin order so yeah on know, I kind of like it more now. It feels morebalanced, a little more fair and I like the discarding aspect of Greay catcher.So you can play a little bit better like stamp, is a little more meaningfulwhen you get stamped to one. You just know you great catcher, yeah, barring you know some way for youropponent to drop, but right. Well, that's kind of the direction I wasgoing to it's like, I think, like at a fundamental level. Supportersshould be more balanced, but I think this year is having in a bettershudectory than last year, and I like it, I like it more yeah, actually like a lot of lash yearsformats. I wasn't a huge fan of to be honest sure, like I enjoyed playing pokomonall last year, but I think of these formats this year are have been morefun so far. I don't know if you feel the same, butthat's yeah. I would agree, I would agree. We have another question here ismalamark good for cups. I mean that's, that's a great question: What do you feel Riley is Malamar agood play. Would you play Malamar for cups? Why are I not? I would not I don't like Malimar, I not NecessariLyi Tisis bad deck, although it is bad and heavy Mallan lot of metos. I don'tyou can't really do anything about that to be honest, yeah, besides switchingyour deck to a worse version of Malamar, but then you're just playing kind of abad deck. So, however, and sort of less healing baseMetas, I think Almar's fine, if you want to take it to a cup. I wouldn'treally fault you, but I mean it's just kind of an Iky deck to me: It's not adeck. I would really want to play when I have all sorts of really consistenttag: Team decks that can take advantage of tag, call and Malamana and OsonHolling, Scintia, Kaitlan and Welter Tur to do all th e sorts of things. Ifind more impressive...

...sure how about you anything any otherthoughsom Malmar yeah. I think there are other decksthat do things a little bit better and Malamar, like you said it relies on tohi Kaos and if you're able to Malloan Lana, Imean Maloalana is just a card on the up right now, it's on the up for sure, andso, if you're able to negate a whole turn,I mean that's insanely, powerful yeah, I mean sounds, sounds pretty powerful to me atleast yeah for sure for sure so, yeah Goead, I think, there's a couple decksthat we haven't hit on yet which are worth mentioning and those being theNagonadal Guzzler deck that DDG played. We briefly mentioned it with CustavaWul en talk a lot about it and there's Blecepylon, and then I'd also beinterested in your thoughts on PKRAM and how it didn't have anappearance atall so yeah whath direction. Would you like to look at first? I think PKRAM is fine to go. It's very interesting that Pekaramdidn't see play because the decks like biggest strength andbeing able to tag bolt it had no counters like. I don't know that anylist played me so theoretically, you should be able to have a much stronger, tagbult right,it's way harder to go around Meu when list includeid. Obviously I thatdidn't even make any sense what I'm trying to think it's hard to playaround you and you exist yeah yeah, but if mew asn't played then like, youwould think that pikerom would have a much better time, but I just think t iskind of a case of like not very many people playing it and also it just notbeing that strong of an option. I think it kind of gets hurt by keldio beingsuch a dominant force. Of course you do have your power plants, but then on theflipside they have chaotic swell. So it's just an innerplay, that's kind ofhard to hard to deal with and then another card they just kind of hatespegaram out of the maybe not out of the format but makes it less favorable toplay is Megalo punny. So you see that I mean we saw in the both of the top twoDeks, but quite a few tadtecks as well. Like yeah yeah, exactly so just like Megaloponny being an inclusion in some decks is really difficult for Peakeram todeal with because they Wereli so heavily on to Denne, and I don't knowthat you could really build that deck to not rely an to ENA. It just feelskind of incorrect, the build you know I didnasPeek Aron, but in any case I think those two those two factors made it notsee any success. Yeah I mean I don't like Pike Rum still, don't so yeah yeah just and it feel I don't know it. Idon't know it feels really. It feels oddly slow. It feels oddly underpoweredand just doesn't have doesn't have the oompof a deck like Mutu or a deck like turbo, Russans art yeah t turns out tthree hundred damage s good turns out. Who Knew I don't know. Maybewe'll have to fact check that. Okay, I'm going to go to this sources, yeah well, NJW's, Looka, peedying, thatI'd like to also talk about. I talked about Naganado Guzz word, Ithink that's. The biggest surprise of the Weeken was probably when Danniewason stream and flips over a neg goes. Lord, I mean that was first off a Bizarr deck,but it was really cool. I think it has a decent ATP matchup, I think, isreally what they're trying to hit there with the B springer and then gx attackkind of move, pretty solid, can't complain. Yep The deck seems wildyindconsistent to me, though there are pements is all across the board. We hadJimmyn Egor and Gustavo kind of do well with Bariance of this deck, and then wehad literally everyone else who played it not too very well Yso, I can't say I'd recommend it if you'relooking for the most competitive play for a tournament, but I mean it looksreally really fun. I mean eain. Absolutely your own pokemonsounds really cool. Thegxpack is fun. You get to play B,Springer and your deck, which I e. frankly I mean that deserves somethingby itself. Right y right, right, yeah I mean it was. It was definitely aninteresting call and, and like you said, it had such a wide range ofperformances, and I think that's just really due to the fact that you need todraw things in a very specific order with that deck. So if you do draw thosethings in that specific order, like you're going to just go far, the deckis just going to work, everythingis going to be wet. You know all well andgood for you yeah, but if you don't- and we saw this on streama lot- I think to one game with Jimmy, maybe in day to where he didn't drawinto what he needed. So he was just...

...drawpassing, for you know four or fiveturns, or maybe even longer than that, but just trying to draw into that onecard that he needed for that specific matchup it just there were some AwkwardTimes where you just draw past with the deck, not because you couldn't attack,but because you didn't actually want to attack Unsi, you had, you know the bespringer or the beast energy or whatever it was. You need it for thatturn. So again, just saying like you want to draw things in a very specificorder with that deck and when you don't, you have a very sucky deck and when youdo, you maybe have the best steck in the room. Yeah I mean the deck seemswildly inconsistent, but and there's a lot going on for sure, there's a lot ofthings that have to happen and, like you said in the right order, which Ithink that's probably the biggest limiting factors, things have to happenin a certain order. Tho Draw certain seqmences of cards and, if you drawpieces in the wrong, Gorder makes sure Miss Megus is kind of awkward like hemight. This make us for so few cards that it fairly feels worth it so sureInteresteng to see the how that deck does moving forward or if peoplererefine that list at all, I'm probably going to be playing at atleast a challenge or something because it looks Super Fun Right. I think it's a perfect challenge.Stick because you know you can kind of likeknow where you sit like after your turn. You know so you're, like I'm. Probablynot winning this game I'll, just scoop it up and yeah. It's no big deal rightlike perpect challenge tin. That is true.That is true and challenges. I love to play stuff. That's like! Let's, justlet's go man Likeam, I fining O, losing this game. There's also guardion had an okay,showing I mean yeah. I think it did exactly as well ase expected it to like somewhere in the middle. It's a very matshup heavy deckand the matchups aren't all there in this meta either, but super powerful when he hit thecountermatchups and chat. We also got a question aboutbird control and why it wasn't able to crack top eight JW. I know we weretalking before the podcast. You had some thoughts about birds and itsperformance. What do you think about birds right now and now keep in mind itdid bubble at at tenth this weekend, so it had a chance. I think it was a bubble, at least, buteither way it's still crackd hop. Sixteen, which is notable an instaentof itself. Do you think birds is viable moving forward as a stallbacker o. Youthink dolls is better or dohes guy. It was a flu yeah. I don't know thenumbers really on on that deck and we talked last week inthe podcastor just about how, like the matchups, are different for birds anddolstall, but I just feel like not the best players didn't bring birds to theevent, like you think, of the premiere, Pigioto players being DDG, and none ofthose players brought that deck to the tournament. So I just think it wasn'tplayed by you know: Maybe the right people, and also just maybe ran intosome awkward matchups yeah yeah. I still think the deck is really reallygood consing forward into the Meta game. I an I mean I haveo. It has all thetools to be extremely good. We talked about it being the premier staldeck andit was kind of interesting to see dolstal kind of went out in terms oftop a placements over over Pigiota. Why do you think that is? Why do you thinkdoll stall was better suited for the LAIC metagame than Pigioto? I thinkwhat makes dolsal better is. It has easier to achieve and state and versusa lot of decks. That end state is enough with Al Stall, because there'snot a lot of custom catchers. There wasn't a lot of spread so realisticallyagainst a lot of these atps against a lot of these mutus. Even I mean even Igits the retses Zars with tealthy hood, like you get to that end, state andyou're good, you just kind of yeah flip your coins and pass so, whereas pitgyhas a lot more going on and I feel like you know, there's things that can gowrong and all sorts of states of the game be it like, and also I think, ATP isharder for pig than it is for dolls. Sure, because ATP can just run pitgeyoff the board and Tran a pitce. You can win that matchup. A lot of the timebabyfhe can run pitgy off the boards at least a couple of times which, with theamount of ATP in the room, could easily like hamper down on the amount of pitgysuccess that we saw this weekend. I still think Tatshe's really really good,though there's a lot of things you can do with it. I will say that the amountof criagonal and AF strikeos a little bit concerning, so you probably want tobe thinking of ways that you can get around that. I was actually talkingwith Brudy bottoner last night about ways to handle this Ebstraka. We tossedaround playing wabafet an the stealthy hood to turn off Dido and make it unable to begusted by the nine tales against Reshesart, and we also talked aboutbeast energy and buzzle, which I think he ended up playing at forgriup'stournament this Wednesday today for...

...those who are watching live, so I think, with birds you just have tomake keep involving it, keep finding ways to push it further and you'll findsuccess, at least in some regard. Yeah, that's that's a really great take.If you had to take a staldeck to a cup I mean yeah had to is a way to eterm it,but this is some strange man, who's threatening o to kill me unless I playtotic. If you were to take a stall deck to atournament which one would it be and why I personally like pitcy the best, although I think it depends a lot likeMalamar, I think it's kind of popular in my area and will continue to bepopular, so I'd rather be playing pitgy than dolls, because dolls doesn'treally have a good answer to Meimar, but I think they're both fine. I. WhatI do like about PG, though, is I think the mill is a lot faster once you getto milling, whereas Olls like you, can bill Elba, but you have to do it everyother turn. losemen grow also blabais like randomly dangerous with dolls,because like if you belove Ol yourself to zero and Flim a bunch of tails, thenyou live thit's, a good point: yeah, that's agood point which at's gonna. That would be, but really right. So for cops. It'skind of interesting right because for cups, theoretically, pigy is probably abetter choice, because you are more easily able to get that surge. DoubleBolaba and you know, ideally, you search double BA little, but everysingle turn yeah. Even without the surge, though, like you can at leastbut you can at least single Belowbu, every turm with pigy right right, right,exacty yeah, it's a lot harder to do with dollwill, always be Captiv Lisemin. Soand the other thing too, I find that the dolls is a little bit moresusceptible to reset stamp early, where, if you steves RESOLV right, you can'tplay any of those cards. So if you don't have a doll down and you Steven'sresolve for it and then you get reset stamp early, then you don't draw intoanother doll like you can start getting all your things knocked out very veryquickly. It doesn't always happen, but just that's that reset stamp is alittle bit harder. I find for dolls to deal with than forPigioto, just because you how that built and draw with Pigioto, so whatI've kind of been seeing. I've seen a few lists throw in like a to to pigiotoline in their dolls to like kind of counter. I don't know it's tonecessarily counteract that specific scenario, but just has more drawpower,because I find that sometimes you know you get into those weird situationswhere, if they do refresh your hand, then you can be in an owkward spot yeahI mean the the elms lecture also makes the pidgies more live. Makes it easierto play that kind of line. Do you have any thoughts on the SAUCEBOOK varientof dolls? I mean it didn't really get any representation at Laic. Do youthink it's a Bible? Dick I mean, I think it's fine, just likethe archetype is good, so I think it's perfectly acceptable. Idon't necessarily think it's better than the like. SPIRITUM achieves almost the samething I feel like for less spots, so I think I would trend more towards that,and I just like we said earlier, the the lock is so strong against a lot ofthese decks that I don't feel like. Sasbuck really adds anything that wedidn't already see this weekend yeah. I will say that even playing like a one,one sozebock though, if you already get the lockup can accelerate your wincon.Is Your ttaking prizes it so enlekea local event, maybe even just playing avery thin line of sazbuck could be the way to go to guarantee that you finishgames long enough or quickly enough, rather not long enough. SOTHAT is the thought that I didn'treally think about as like an alternative way to wing games. No, Imean, I think there is a lot of merit to it and, like you said, particularlyin a local metagame, if you're you know not taking this teck to regionals, I think there is. There is some meritto playing yeah, maybe a one one or to one line of saucebook, but then theweird thing is like you're committing you're committing the SOSMA line toyour bench. I just feel like if you're going to be, this is taluable, I willsay yeah like the bench pacis valuable and like theoretically. Well, you should haveenough time to win in thirty minutes if you play fast enough, so I worry that if you're relying too heavily onSauzebuck, then you don't actually have the capability to play that, like you,don't actually know what you're doing with the deck right. If you have to rely on Saucebok, ifyou're like looking to sozebuck as your savior invested one, then maybe that'sstill not the deck for you because you might be looking at just. You shouldmaybe play a different back because kind of what I'm saying right and Iwill say, though,...

...people I think overestimate how longcan take Stalto win, sometimes sure I people play Wackys, mackat, all sortsof local events and did well, so it's not impossible to land even without anyactive mill. I mean the Vilim deck literally did not have any active wayto milly. You had to drawpast forever so sure I would just say if you'reconsidering sauzbuck also just realized. Maybe you also need to play faster yeah,so I think staldeck have Hav a caability to win, invest to one. I likeCIG, better and mess. One though, because there's it's very fast, onceyou get goin six cars, a turn is unbelievable. It's pretty busted cool. Are there any other things thatyou wanted to hit on from the LICM Meta game, I'm kind of stralling through thelist right now I mean it was. It was pretty welldiscussed. I mean we touched a little bit on. Gardi like the other thingwould be is is blounds like big blounds, aviable deck. I mean, I think, that's the only other. What top AI deck thatwe didn't really talk about. I find that it's good, like I think it has aplace. I see it as a very tiar too option, but again in the right Metagame. If you're going up against a lot of tag, team decks, maybe not a lot of Pigioto, then I think you have a goodday. I I just don't like pig Bos. This is not bair. I just not adect thatI like Eah the deck. looked. The deck probably destroyed the dolls,but thenden in the top ORGE TREA game. It looked really really bad eal say nofault. I don't think it was the fault of the player. It's just like sometimesblouds just looks like the worst teck of all time.Yeah I mean it definitely is prone to these awkward hands more so than Ithink you to or Turbo reshes are. But I just I just don't like the strategy ofblonds very much, and I have said this for a long time now. You can see me youcan catch me, like metaphor, casts from a while back saying how much I don'tlike plafts yeah you're, just a hater. I am I'm a hater yeah. I don't likebloncs, you don't believe I acully I just don't I don't its. I mean that's to problem yeah. I like it's one of those decks where Iwon't follow you if you play it, but I would never play it so right, right,EXAC and I just have- is Iky deck. ICKY Akki, O Hicky gross disgusting, likeFilthy Nasty, yeah, there's also a couple quag sire decks, but I mean Idon't know what we can even say about them: they're quag starrdeks. They feellike I about the same as soay yeah. I mean it's fine again like if you runinto the rigt matchups, then you're, okay, but I just don'tthink you have enough good matchups to to win a win, an event yeah. So so that's a ton of stuff about la IC.I want to ask then talking about all these decks. What would you take to alocal event if you had one coming upsay this weekend? I know you don't have onecutting up this weekend, but if you did what was you playng? What wou for me personally, I would probablytake baby blounce. I like that deck a lot. I think it's just very strong ingeneral, really really good fun deck to play,I'm not going to get burnt out playing it. For you know five to eight roundsyeah I like bootmons a lot. I would also consider taking you to that. Eckjust feels like honestly feels like the best teck to me, and then I don't think you can go wrongwith TURBA rushazard. So the going to be my top three if you are comfortableplaying a Stalldeck, if you are comfortable if you're comfortablewinning in thirty minutes the definitely you know consider that aswell. But I would say, baby blonds me to and Russasard would be, would be thethree that I would consider for this weekend. I don't think I'm going to youknow out of Leftfield by any means. No, no, it doesn't sound like itatleast. I think me personally, I would have a similar spread. I think Youtuanebaby blonds are both kind of my top premier choices right now, but it alsokind of throw in that instead of Rashy'Szard, I would play Pitgy Thatwas my third deck choice, because II like those kind of tecks Tuer, very gon, Ecaus she's, a very fun card too,because, like Pigioto, I guess technically, ad like putting the car onthe bottom is fun right. IT'S SUPER COOL! You get to pickyour deck up and put that Hard Im with the deck back down. I mean that's neat thats, that's reallyneat yeah! I just think that's neat yeah. I think I mean really bangup jobY Pokmon with that card design to ye absolutely cool, so then talked a lot about decks about tx weplay. I think my last question before we perhaps ask chat for some more is:What do you think was the most...

...impactable card from cosmic eclipse sofar it seems like a tossup between Megalo,ponny and Mallo and Lana. I find that those two cards are reallykind of shaping them at a game for, in my eyes at least, and the decks thatcan utilize one or both of those are extremely strong, yeah Eah. I think this I did Pos tha question back to you. Do youhave another one that you kind of look to outside of those outside of thosetwo cards? I think definitively? It is tagcle. Okay, I think tad calls what makes nowAlona Vibale it's what the engine that ran a lot of these decks was tag. CallI mean the card is ridiculous. To be honest, veryit is ridiculous. Cynthian,Kate, because, like you, want to Moui Lanas so good and like defined kind ofhow the decks er, what text wer even viable, because Malmar was pushed outby Malenona, but then it also came back to like well tag call. Let's you findout las and also Indian Kaytlans, also a huge part of thet engine because itlike gets you Malanlotas back at draws, you cards yeah, and so you can't justit almost feels, like you can't just say, Malelana without calling out citand Calin, and then why, at that point you might as well just be calling outtad call, because that's what Jono Wan ennable everything yeah. So I think tadcall is definitively the card from cosmic or clips. Yeah is sure, ischanging the Beta game. Bos formoture, absolutely absolutely that's very cool!I am excited to see how these decks shape up, how people decideto tech- or you know, change the list that on andand I think it should be an very exciting. Next, I don't know month orso yeah I will say I'm a little bit bummed out that the Tagtean supporterconcept only got to be realized for one set, because I think it's reallyinteresting and really cool yeah. It's it's a really really. Nice, always lovejust having those cards that let you choose. Multiti supporters are alwayscool to me, yeah, very, very strong cool. So did you have any other bigtopics, wiont a hit on JW, or should we open up the floor? Yeah? No, I don't have anything that wedidn't already touch on. So let's go ahead and ask chant some questions allright. She ask for Quins from Chanc, so we'll open up the floor to chat to asksome questions before we wrap up for the day. While you all are typing upsome awesome questions with your gigantic massive brains that you'veacquired over the course of watching tag team w. What is your favorite card fromCOSMIGA cliffs, my favorite card from cosmiccoclipsyeah? It can be for any reason on acompetitive level, not not necessarily competitive it cand be for any reason.Oh Man Huh. That's an interesting, that's aninteresting question. Well I'll, be honest, tht. The most joy that I gotthis weekend was when Danny flipped over then again. That was an insademoment to I hawwas the most joy I felt watching the stream like I was like.Okay, I'm ready to you know I'm getting ready to see round one okay Danny's onstream, like what am I going to see, Moutu Pigioto, you know, and then he flipsover the Nag, I'm like w yeah. That definitely blew my mind alittle bit and the thing is. I actually asked them that morning what they wereplaying and I was told Agonidal guzzlord and I like that's funny likewhat do you actually play and they said Hea crapped out screen shot with threeand again theyl, guys Lord, and like that's some good commitment to the me.But what are you playing Youlittl? Did you know that that waswhat they were actually Ba yeah, I not for sure I was getting like pracked orsomething I know a was. That was a real deck. So well, that's crazy man, it'scrazy, pogumans, so fun! I love this game, it's a great game for sure. So,what's the best mean deck in format? Rilyou want to take this one. I think there's two that come to mind.I think Tan growth, as is been kind of a meme deck that people have beentalking about. I have not experiments of a tank growth at all, so I can'ttell you how good it is, but I saw that at top aided a cup orgot second or something like that. The other day, so I mean Tang growth in it, of itself, iskind of a meme like, regardless of what's frented on that car like Iketengers is ridiculous. It is a-...

...and I guess you just play a bunch ofAPSOLES to increase retreat cost it's kind of like that. Sello Steela, absoledeck. Remember that deck that you mad it yeah. That's like one of your mostfeud videos, yeah it's kind of like yeah, but for one grass, energy, so busted so busted. I just feel liketanggrowth man like it's just Tangola, but Buk H, but twoof them more than tlike a bunch of Os r long yeah. It's just a big old Tangla did they make a baby Tangla? I think there might be concept art forit, but I don't think there actually is one okay. They should have done that.There's a twitter account which, like periodically, will tweet all the lostpokemon if you ever and they have a baby Tanglea, I'm not positive, but Ithink I may have seen one I'm going to look it up, but let's see so those are good meandecks,I'm thinking also of there's oother one. I wanted to call. U was nuzzle right.You, Oh okay, yeah! I was going to say the turn. Onedusknor deck, Oh with the PUSMOSA and vstra yeah eahthat, is reallyridiculous. Prettyfuny people are this is cute. They totally should havekept this in. Oh, this is a good Pokimon, Yeah Yeo I'm going to send I'm going to send this copy image. Maybe I can send it in thechats. This is a really good one. The copy the therl you rl I'll, just give you thewhole wall there. There Yougo Thas way too much, but it's fine gootankle up as a good concept. I thinkbaby Teula, whoever cute, who knew et awesome so other decks ore, other questionsthat we got Guzman Halem you three versus straight welder, Mu. Three, wekind of touched this earlier jwdo. You have a definitive preference at thispoint for weldermutry versus Goosman Hallemu,three yeah I mean I do think I do think muth MOU to benefits from playing GooseManhala. So I would say, yeah probably goes Minholla seems fair to me. Yeah. We got a question from creeping fruit, best galar starter informat. What is your preference of the galarian starters scorboon eye, Scor, Buna sqarbuni seems pretty cool, not GOINNAlie. I picked Bruki in my sword game, but I'm kind of envious of the soremony people to be on yeah. At least I haven't spoiled the pokelon yet so Idon't really know, but I sa, I only know what the second forms look like sofar, and the grouky second form is very ugly. I don't like him. Yes, butgrouky's final form is the best. Scorbu andiy is the best starter, but itsfinal evolution is. I don't want to it's, not the worst. Ithink it's just tie for worst. It's Groukis on a form is very, very strong.I think it' in it is a pokemon that could have belonged in Gento like it'sjust a very good classic nice wholesome pokemon design. I like it a lot, I'm very excited to find it out. Then,with that endorsement, so yeah co, mixed TAFP, asking about the darkbox deck that tyler speaks AV on facecook. That's that's a secret man.That's a stop secret imper! So Riley could tell you about it, though.Apparently I can how about the Mimiq that blocksabilities? Do you think there's more to it or do you think it has gottenexactly the amount of representation that deserves yeah? I mean it's hard to really make awork in a deck: That's not Malamar, and so, if mal markets hated out of theformat, then it's kind of tough to make at work. I guess the other one that youcould do is like maybe bless up like any deck. That's canspread, but I can't really think of anyone's the one that comes to mind islike Blos Sephalon, but thet really have any psychic attackers so like theMimmicku is like best against Meu to I would say so. I don't know. That's that's a verycurious question, but I think it's just best with dex that spread and somalmark kind of fits that bill. Yeah Yeah, definitely seems like Malimar. Isthe premier deck to use it? I can't even think of a shrine deck right nowthat would use it other than malware yeah exactly exactly okay. So lastquestion: for the day:...

Yunsipher ASS, Whitch deck to win anevent and which deck would you play to get points so kind of that high role versus safe, consistent concept, which do youthink fits Ino, those categories I'll? Let you answer this one. First Ri youshould take this on. Okay, I mean realistically, I think, to winan event. WELDERDEK will always kind of be the top dogs, because they're justso good when they run high, and I think Muto and Rashizard can both fit thatbill. Pretty well yeah. To get points I think Mo to is saferthan Russies are to get points, but I think the ultimate safe play to getpoints is currently building up to either be honestly, like ATP is probably a soliddectogate points. It feels it feels very pekarom SK in that kind of way.You know it just it'll do the job, but maybe won't win you the tournament. Also, I think stall could fill it itinto that win in event, category where you just from atcans spike everythingthat was there yep absolutely yeah. I kind of feel that way, so I would sayMOU to me too for both but me to more to get points, and then I would say,like a Pigioto, we clearly stand Mutu in techteam. Well, I mean dude the the deck. If ithad one yesterday, it would have won every major event in standard since itsrelease like it's insane, but there was the the guardion tournament. Let's notforget what in Germany or something YeahSheffield I don't know, was it wasn't that a special event? It's still a major tournament. Ifeellike o you always. You always deny me ofthat major tournament. Title O doesn't. Can that doesn't count for you, but itcounts. Scomor me: okay, okay, Okaywell, either way were on the same page butyas filthy and broken, and disgusting and gws Very Salty that I tearing himBoun here, just it'Syou know I get no respect no,but I but someone of the chat saying that it was a regional that the guardydeck one so actually you're wrong, and I'm right. Okay, well I'll, hail! Riley! Thank you!That's all! I'm asking for so that'll! Be It for today. Everyone.Thank you so much for coming to chat. If you are watching this live on twitchJW, will you be going live with Pokemon after dark? Yes, I will. I need to go,get some Eggnog, okay and then gbw's got hime homemade egnog that he has todown. Yes, no, no O, I'm gonna drink it. I'm goingto drink it on the stream. Itis. The key. Is that it's over one year old, yeah he's got this weirdly old eggNog and I was telling him how it grosses me out, but not IASI, the Mazer.It's not like he's just drinking really old, a all secrets, all the secrets erlbe revealed in in three minutes, so I'm going to go,use the restroom okay. This is all going to make it you're going to cutthis in post right Riley, which part me saying I'm going to use the bathroomanyway. It's that's definitely staying it. Thank Yo, Oe Rone for watchingwe'll see all next week, Boby.

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