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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 4, Episode 1 · 1 year ago

4-1. A New New New Beginning

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back back back for another round of Tag Team, this time in Season 4! Just because the cards are rotating doesn't mean your favorite duo is going anywhere. Come listen into how the Full Grip double header went and the future of standard and GLC.

Yo, what is up, guys? Welcome back to tag team, POKEMON, trading card games for me or podcasting do my name is Riley Hubbard, joined as always buy my good, good friend Mr JW Cree Wall, in our fourth season of tag team. We've made it a long, long way since we first started, and thank you all so much for being a part of the journey with us, whether you're a first time listener or a day one or absolutely yeah, I can't believe it. Season Four. Yeah, that's a lot of seats. That is a lot of season's. Feels good. The most shows get on the air, but that's true, although nobody's nobody's paying us, and they will soon. But no, nobody's paying us to be here and we're getting the payment of a job well done. Yeah, pad on the back and the knowledge that we are in integral part of most people's Thursday morning afternoon. The commuters shout out to the people that are listening to them right now in their car. Have you the real mvps? So GW, how's your week going so far? That's going pretty good. Got To touch some cards, got to see some friends, love of those things. Yeah, I mean that was man, I was looking so forward to that and now I'm I'm addicted, Bro. I caught the bug again, like, like I'm challenging people the GLC matches in Andrews Discord and like I'm like just playing pope just to, you know, play on the ladder and stuff like. It's it's bad, dude, wow, you know you're in deep when you're playing the ladder. Now, the Ladders Fun, the Ladders Fund. But but yeah, I tend to. I tend to, you know, do tournaments as my only way of like testing or or, you know, I'll play my decks for the youtubes and stuff. But sure, yeah, man, I'm just I'm in it, Bro. I like want to play all the time. I'm with you, man, I'm with your Pokmons. What comes fun when you get into it. I feel like it's a it's been a little challenging to get that same spark with the the lack of in person events. But you know, things like the full grip, I guess, to k double leader in a way, it was a great way to kind of like reignite that for people. It seems like, you know, based on player interviews and things like that during the event, that that was definitely something that had a positive impact on a lot of people there. Yeah, no doubt everyone seemed very happy, although I couldn't see their facial expression or their full facial expression. You see the brows, you can see the brows. Yeah, I think. Well, on the side of the eye, oh for sure. But it was it was great. Yeah, it was great. People seemed to really enjoy it and I think they got some really good feedback from, you know, the Stream, obviously leander did a really nice job, and then from just the people attending the event, the judges. You know, we have, I think, in Ohio, some of the best judges that you can find. So Hulan and Jimmy and Aj all did fantastic job and made the event run real smooth so that was really nice. Yeah, and yeah, just people had a good time. There weren't any real snaffoos in terms of Gameplay, you know, mistakes or or cheating or anything like that. So I think it was an overall fantastic weekend for pokemon. That's great, man, that's great. So for the uninformed or people who haven't been listening or necessarily following the cast, JW did end up going down to the full grip double header, one K. and so on Day One there is a k tournament in post rotation format, that being the sword and shield through evolving skies, and JW finished in the top four. They're losing to as little GARCI AGREE I go. And...

...on Day two there was a k in the JIM leader challenge format. CHECK OUT JIM leader Challengecom if you want to learn more about that. and JW placed in the finals. You got second place there. Yes, yes, I said going into the tournament that I wanted to win both Saturday and Sundwhenny and I didn't. Yeah, you know, and I didn't win either. So really just I feel old, miserably so outside of your what I would call good performance. You know, what was the highlight of the the weekend? Um, it would probably be. Yeah, I mean just aside from playing cards and like seeing friends and stuff, because it is a lot of fun. You know, we got to see chip and zool and grant and and Caleb and, you know, Danks, you know, I was always good good to see him and Natalie and, you know, all the full group squad is just everybody you know that I hadn't seen in a while. So that was really fun in terms of the Gameplay. I just had a great time both days. I don't know, man like like, it was just so good to play again. And so standard format. Post rotation, I feel like, is in a decent spot, not a fantastic spot. I wouldn't say it's a particularly memorable format. I've been playing for ten years now. So, like you know, there's some there's some formats that stick out to me as being particularly skill based or particularly fun. This one falls somewhere in the middle. It's not particularly terrible, but it doesn't jump out as being, Oh yes, this is a format that I want to, you know, remember forever. It's good. It's good, though, and I really like the skill of the Entili onlines and I really like the skill of the Ershifus and I like the skilled. I do believe that there's still some skill and deck building that can be had at in post rotation, even though decks look very similar with or for Quick Ball, for research, for Marney, of inevitable every rotation right like we lost a chunk of cards. So the best one? Yeah, are what filled the decks? Yeah, for sure, for sure. And then the GLC was just so fun. I had a really great time with that format. I felt like I had the best deck in the room, which was close to being true. I there is one change I would make to the GLC deck. Yeah, that I played, but but overall, just a fantastic, fantastic weekend for cards. That's awesome, man. I'm glad you got to have that experience. Yeah, thank you, thank you, and I'm glad it was all. You know, it seemed as safe as we could be in a pandemic. I suspect that if full grip does this again, which I heard some rumblings that they would do, I think I would hope that, just with kind of cases on the rise, I think I would hope that they require being vaccinated. I don't know of anyone that wasn't vaccinated that was there. I will just like clarify that, but I do kind of feel like during you know, yeah, there maybe is that one little extra step of protection. You know, it was. It was completely fine in terms of of I don't know, the distancing and people being, you know, in that proximity and people wearing masks. It was all good like that. But I suspect in the future there might be something like that implemented where they to hold another tournament in the future? For sure, for sure. You know, I actually my primary care doctor on their APP. I can get a little qr code now that shows that I'm accinated, which is super cool. Yo, that's pretty cool. Yeah, you just scan it and it has like the the proof right there. Cool, that's awesome musician registry. Yeah, it was neat. I learned about it at work actually, because it was something done by epic and yeah, and it's like, oh, cool, side down to the APP and it was right there. Very cool. Yeah, I'm with you, though. I think you know, as things ramp up, vaccines are going to get more, more prevalent, more in the limelight.

I think one of the major barriers to organize play returning in full force, in my opinion, is vaccines being rolled out to like the younger folks right like there's no real vaccine availability for people in that like under sixteen age group. R actually, the younger you get, and I kind of am hesitant to say that the organized player will return in full force until there is. Yeah, and that might be part of the reason, certainly a big part of the reason, that Pokemon hasn't said like yes, go ahead and and continue on my play, because we know that magic has but of course magic is catering to an older audience. That right. Maybe it's a little more able to make those difficult decisions on their health or those important decisions on their health. So yeah, certainly that would be that would be a difficult question answer in terms of vaccines for for the under underage. Speaking of the children for a second here. You'd mentioned that you're playing for ten years. Does it feel weird like by the time organized play returns you'll feel like older in terms of your gameplay experience? Then all of the junior division has been alive. Yeah, that is very weird and it was really unusual to to interact with a lot of players that head either started just before pandemic are started in the pandemic. I talk to the bizarre I talked to a handful of players that this full grip tournament was their first in person tournament. Yeah, and that is so cool, like that is aught, like I'm stoked about that, but it was pretty surreal. It's it's crazy out there, man. I mean I can't imagine like starting to play cards during the pandemic. You know, like online is your only way to do it. You there's no way to buy physical cards because they're all being bought up. Like for me, a huge motivators. I like to hold them, you know, like yeah, yeah, me too, me too, for sure. You know, ever since I've been here, since I watched you on stream, I'm just I've had just some of my old decks that have just been sleeved up for since the start of the pandemic, and I just yeah on them and stuff, let's go. It's so fun. You know, you'll look at them, you hold them, touch it's I know, it's great, man. It's great. Get to slide the energy under the card physically. It's something. It's and like, yeah, you put the tool on, you can choose where you put the tool. Does it go up and down? Does it go off to the side? You know, there's a lot of different day stack your how do you stack your energy right? Yeah, on that diagonal pace, like there's so many ways you can. You know, how do you keep your board? Is it clean as a kind of messy? Are you just throwing cards all over the place, like what's going on there? Yeah, it's it's a good time for sure, and I feel like that just like a good like meme video is like, yeah, I've actually thought about that. Yeah, I've definitely. Yeah, types of types of people. And then it's just all the ways that I definitely have been thinking about that for like the last week. I was like, because you got like your Shufflers, your hand Shufflers, and then you got you like your what's the where they do it with the cards and they go like they kind of like crimp the edges. It's like, except it's on. I see if I can get on a camera here. It's like, oh, like their discard pile and stuff. Yeah, where they like just do the edge. Yeah, yeah, so, and then you have the people who like their board is very, very neat and they like pick up their discard pile and like very like swipe it out, almost, and then he turned it right back to it. True. True, I didn't see. Yeah, I didn't see any particularly neat players, like anyone. That's because...

I never know, I little. I think I was a little sloppy right now. Well, I've been. I've been playing a long time and you know, there are like some people that I can just picture my brain and I know exactly how they keep their board and it's like pristine, like you know, it looks like ptcgi right where everything is exactly lined up. There is he it is he not doing that? Well, I didn't play against Caleb, so I didn't really see any of his matches, but Kaylebs like the quintessential person who does that in my mind. Yeah, for sure, for sure. So that's funny. It is funny. Yeah. Well, what I was saying is I think you know people in playing online for so long that just like their general like not necessarily they're doing things wrong, it's just their habits are a little sloppy. There were definitely players that shuffle their hand in on a Marny. Really, I feel like it was almost less than I expected. Yeah, it didn't happen. I just dream at least, which is good. Yeah, no, it was. It was hand it with a trump card shot. True. Yeah, I didn't watch that match, but apparently that was a pretty big whoop. See, that's a brutal one, because he was like definitely gonna win that game. So funny. Sometimes you just feel like losing. I've been there, Pessa. Well, let's talk about the actual events themselves. To start with with day one, with the post rotation, standard format. Again, that shortan shield through evolving skies. Talk about you know what you played, and then we can talk more about like the the actual and results of the tournament. Sure, so let me pull up the actual round by round matchup. I was very I was in a very good position through four rounds and in round one I had played a right Quasa and, oh, I should say the deck that I was playing. So I was playing a I was playing at Ershfoo vmax with molt trace V and I said in just like I said. Yeah, I said, and I actually played the deck a couple of times, one, you know, one on stream and then another one against Andrew, like I was really trying to show off the deck. They're all up on the Youtube and I did a little bit of a deck profile on Youtube if you want to know a little bit more about the deck, because it's not particularly popular. Actually, I saw a tournament and online tournament that I played in on Tuesday and everyone was running Ershifu and telly on and nobody was running or Shafu moltrace, which it made me feel a little bit sad, but that's okay. So the idea there is that you have the moletrace. That can one shot your shadow riders, but it can also provide energy accelerations that you can go back to back g Max rapid flows with your with your Ershfoovy Max. So you can energy switch manipulate energy pretty well with that deck. And so that was the idea there and it worked. It worked well. I wouldn't say that it backtoback g Max rapid flow is anything that you really desire, are necessarily need in this Meta game, in this post rotation metagame, but it's certainly a nice option to have. Sure. So so we had round one was ray Quasa and the rapid flows were awesome there. You just take out two flappy's and it really cripples them, taking a shape to slaughter, for sure. Definitely. Round two I played a shadow rider and that went, I don't know, pretty pretty simple. You just get up a moultrace and make sure you have a multrace on the bench with at least one energy attached and then you can really just, you know, you attack with the first one and then as long as you have another one in reserve, then you should be able to take your two knockouts on the shadow riders if they get kind of funky and they go into the alchemy and they really get a good alchemy start. Then you can swing in with the with the Ershifu, and maybe even just do one hundred and fifty damage with the, you...

...know, base Ershfoovy. But that one was pretty simple. I just was able to, you know, run through with the with the multrace. So in that matchup, do you usually like try and get to Multraus with one energy each before you go in? If that kind of the idea, Um, you don't have to. But yeah, as soon as you go in with that first Multras, you want to have a backup with one on it, right, so you're at least threatening the the next turn. Yeah, so that is that what you're saying. Like so you want to have when you start to attack with Moultras, you want to have another moltras. That's that's kind of a given, right, because you're if you're seeing your multis is getting knocked out, then you can't start charging one at that point. Yeah, right, right, I guess. Yeah. So what when I'm curious about is like how quickly you start powering up the second like do you bench to like right away and try and get one energy on both pretty much immediately. Or yeah, that I exactly. I will even sometimes just bench all three because you don't necessarily like to have the ersha food. It's a nice option for you, but there are certainly times we're just having all three out on the field is going to be optimal for you. Because, yeah, in those early turns, if the shadow rader gets like a really quick alchemy and they get enough energy and play, then they can start gusting up your moultras if you're not ready enough like by that time. So you want to make sure that you have three in the deck so you can get around that strategy that they try to employ. But yeah, like you, like you said, getting out to trying to get an energy on both before you go in with the big swing is is where you ideally would like to be. Sometimes it doesn't work out quite like that, but s's that's where you want to be. Makes Sense. So then round three I played a Varin so I play Jr play and as option deck and this was his option with a couple of Zamasentas. I didn't see the full deck but it was kind of reminiscent of one that grant manly was posting and playing with. But grant had a bunch of Articuno so that he could discard metal energies and get it back with the saucer. I see. And Yeah, but JR was playing one that had the I thought this is really going to mess me up, but it actually didn't end up playing too big of a role. But he had the new metal stadium that heels thirty from each of your metal pokemon. Huh, and this was the crystal cavern, something like that. This was the matchup where my backtoback rapid flows was really, really strong, because I was able to hit, you know, a bench's option with a rapid flow and then he healed dirty damage, but he couldn't heal enough to, you know, prevent it from getting knocked out by another rapid flow. He prized, he's telling me after the game he prized one Zamasenta, so I think his ideal strategy might have been to go, you know, double Zamasenta and then one's option to maybe draw some cards and that makes rapid flow a little less scary, but then you also have to contend like that strategy might be a little bit better for an Ershifu and telly on build, but it gets a little bit hairy when you factor in the mole trace into that equation, being able to pretty simply, you know, two shot your your Azambasentas. So take a hit and it can take a hit. Yeah, so I'm pretty tough match up for him and I was able to walk away there after a shaky early game, to to take the win round, for I was very I was like determined not to lose this one. So I was playing against frank and if you know Frank Persic, you know that he will go out of his way to play a spicy deck, although this time his spicy deck was was somewhat, you know, kind of wellknown, somewhat like on the rise, I would say. Obviously it's a deck that hasn't been played too much because it was just released in evolving skies, but he was playing the Sylvi on deck, and that is kind of the quintessential frank deck in my opinion, where it's Gott a lot of different things going on. There's,...

...you know, six different types in the deck that are all doing different things. You can play little cute tax he was playing like a meuth yeah, the Glaiyah, yeah, glaring me out so he could discard cards from his hand. I thought that was kind of cute. It was. It was really an interesting deck. But what ended up happening was he I went first, I believe, or maybe I went second, I can't remember, but I was able to get a turn, you know, to rapid flow, and he made a slight mistake on his turn by grabbing an evolution incense off of sylvion's ability instead of grabbing a quick ball. And if you had grabbed a quick ball he could have crob added or or El Degost or whatever is draw support was. He could have used, you know, an additional supporter or drawn more cards, but instead he grabbed an incense so that he could evolve his remorade. Well, I just sniped down the remarade, figuring that that was the best shot I had at winning, and he just wasn't able to mount enough pressure. I think he did get a sylvion on that following turn, but he didn't have the remorade octillery to draw into more of the the you know, wasn't able to use a supporter, so he wasn't able to get enough different types of pokemon and play. So he wasn't able to knock you know, get a knockout on my Ersia food. So that was that was a key play in that matchup and just was all the difference. I think if he grabs a different card there, he's in the clear more than likely. But I was able to take advantage of that. And then round five I was was feeling good. For No, there were seven rounds in the tournament and round number five a plague against Columbus native and good friend Andrew Dankas. So thank us, somebody that I've been testing on tabletop with, you know, leading up to the tournament, and we want to we want to play again do some tabletop stuff in the future. So he should see him a little bit more on the channel if you're following in my youtube or my twitch, but its fine. DANCAS. He was flying shadow rider and they had a spicy tech. So they're spicy tech. That didn't matter a ton, but but I guess I just want to highlight it. They're playing horror and energy and ACROSMA ver the even Baxter attack. Absolutely so. Then acrossmovie can do two hundred and twenty damage if it has a special energy attached. They play some horrors and you know they were able to utilize that. Well, what ended up happening was I wasn't able to get an additional dark energy in the discard pile because, as we were talking about, our strategy with the shadow riders is to, you know, go in and have your active muletrace and then try to build up another one on them on the bench. And I just wasn't able to find that additional dark to put in the discard pile to power up my bench and I must have dug it, because it was over like two turns and I basically just needed I needed the one on the on, you know, one of these two turns to get it, you know, somewhat powered up right and then and then I would bring another one back after my first after my first ultrace got knocked out with the direflme wings, and then I'd attach another one and do a knockout for game. But that just never happened over the course of two turns and I like researched and crow added and articun nod and researched again, an articund again, and I like saw all these cards and I just couldn't, I just couldn't get another energy in the discard pile. So yeah, it was. It was really rough. I was like a little bit. That was the saltiest I've been, I think, years and years. Oly. Yes, seriously, seriously, because I was like this is a free matchup, this is like pretty easy. I should have no real problems with this. And and I was, you know, for no. I want to go five, and knows, I got just ID twice, right, because we all know the horror stories of somebody goes, you know, for no, and then and then they lose and then they lose again and and all of a sudden they're out of the out of the top cut. So I was...

...a little bummed. I want to just win out and go five and Oh and, you know, and chill and chill from my last two rounds. But that was not to be. So I played than Caus he beat me. I was lucky, though, to play another shadow at her in round six and we played on stream actually, so this was a stream match. If you want to watch it, it's on Andrews Channel. And he just didn't really have a good start, unfortunately. So I was able to take him down pretty pretty simply, pretty easily. And then round seven Idd so that was my Swiss rounds. Yeah, pretty all those Swiss pretty smooth. Well, pretty smooth from the most part. And so we get in top eight I'm playing against Andrew ionios. Well, that's just like twitch handle and he was playing in Nurschfu multras build as well, but his list had actillery so he could search out the rapid strike energy, and I've I found his deck. I don't I don't necessarily think it was bad, but I just don't know that it was optimized. I just felt like my list was a little bit faster, and I think he would even tell you the same thing, where I was able to draw with the crow bats into the things I needed, as opposed to setting up a stage one right and having to basically wait a turn to get, you know, the thing that I needed. And he was playing a few other things that were kind of cute and that maybe would have helped him if he had just drawn better overall. Like he played an echoing horn, which could be cool because you could put a crow bat back from the discard pile onto the bench and maybe get a double gmax rapid flow for, you know, extra damn or you know, doing an extra knockout right getting a free knock out there on an extracrow bat, so I thought that was that was really cool. He played like a fan of waves and stuff, but in the end I just felt like his deck was a little slow. There were a couple times during the midgame where he didn't have an octillery out and he wasn't able to draw cards and he just wasn't able to put on much pressure. Yeah, I will say this is one of text make more sense when you have an octillery to grab them because they're all yeah, definitely, definitely, so definitely. I think the other thing I don't remember his list exactly, but I want to say that there's only there were only like for dark energy. So I don't know, I just feel like I'm reading. Well, yeah, having five, five, and I would actually just play six dark energy into energy search in my list if I were to play again, but just to have highercounts of energy because you're going to need to attach basic energies onto the multus anyway and you want to get those in the discard pile. So I think it was four. Could have been five. Somebody can correct me on that one, but just a lower count because he was trying to fit in all this other stuff. It just doesn't it's not very conducive to getting back to back multus turns, which is what you really write. It kind of need that grave. Yeah, you need that in the shadow rider matchup. So then I based off against the Zul and top for and I went first both games, which I think is an advantage for my deck if I can set up like like I kind of divided my tears as I was drawing play hands where it was an ideal start if I got a supporter in hand. You know, if I was like starting and pretending as my first turn, if I had a supporter in hand, I got an energy in the discard pile with a multus out so I could die flying wings, and then had an Ershiafu with any energy attachment. I thought that that would be an ideal start against pretty much anything because I would have the option to threaten with Multus or I haven't had the option to threaten with Orshafu, and then, like a good start would be to have a supporter and like one of those so I could at least put some kind of pressure on and then a bad start would be to have, you...

...know, one or less of those requirements and I had to. Yeah, I had two bad starts against this will where I didn't even get like an energy attachment, and so I felt pretty bad. There was maybe a point in game one that I could have done something, but he had four drizzles out and I just thought, well, he is so so the play was he had for drizziles out and he researched and he didn't hit a single in telly on. So immediately in my mind I'm thinking, oh, he prized all of his in Italian. So I had an option to rapid flow two of his drizzles, but I opted to just try to swing into the the Ershfooz right because I was thinking like okay, if he didn't get in Teian's there, after a research and I for dress, I was out like yeah, when is he going to get them? Like it just doesn't really add up. But he ended up having the ended up having them all on his deck, but he just with them, which was just so unusual. So anyway, so I don't think it was necessarily a missplay because I think I lose that game regardless. But then in the next game, again suboptimal start and I just couldn't put really any pressure on on us will. So that was a that was some decent showing there for that first for that first tournament, and I was just happy to, you know, walk away with the box, walk away with a hundred bucks and look, I had the day too. There you go. And you know, it's a little thing to going on to win the tournament with his rapid strike and telly on deck had a great finals match versus chip where he really showed how rapid strike can route out games, versus shadow writer, even in post rotation Meta, and shadow rider was a phenomenally popular deck at the full grip event. So, JW, I think one thing I'm curious about is, coming out of this event, do you have any new opinions about, you know, what the best deck is in this format? Do you think rapid strike and tell you on, like we were saying the other week, is still kind of like the top dog, or are you unconvinced? Um, yeah, I think I think probably. Yeah. And the post rotation met I think shadow rider is probably king. We should see some other like and this is I'm acknowledging that it's very fluid at this point, because I think what we'll see is a lot of these other Vmax des kind of rise up. Like I'm really intrigued by just sw Coon v like those kinds of decks. I'm really intrigued by something like Lacion or leafy on like a lot of the a lot of the evolutions that I think have a lot of promise weren't really played. You know, Sylviana, I think, is a great option for for players in the post rotation metagame. So yeah, I think where I stand right now is that shadow ratter is probably the de facto best deck and then you have, in my opinion, the Orshafu Multras deck is the best or Shufu list the best way to play Arshafoo, but I know that's up for debate and certainly a lot of players think that the Italian version is better, and that's totally fair. So somewhere there. Yeah, you got the bears and he got the horses really duking it out for the king in the format. Yeah, I would kind of descent. I think the the Airship Foo vary answer the best decks in the format and and shadow riders prominence is kind of a I guess, a reflection stances that or she was so good hm, namely like I think shadow riders really good, like it's a phenomenal deck. Without or she fee. I think or spee is like what pushes it to actually be in like the true top tier of decks as opposed to like some of these other v Max is. Yeah, I think the one thing with shadow rider...

...is it has like an incredible ceiling. We talked about this the other week, but man, that deck starts rough a lot, it really does, because there's so many moving parts. Yeah, and I was experimenting in a recent tournament with adding in great balls instead of evolution and sense to try to get a little bit more explosive first turn. And I think there's some merit there, you know, just like because I feel like the Games that you get three shadow rider down on the first turn, yeah, like you have an extremely high wind rate, as opposed to the Games that you get, you know, one or so many teams where you get the one man. That's yeah, yeah, for sure. That's definitely tough because you're not even you're like you're like barely. I don't even think you can really get a two shot in most instances with just one shadow rider down. So makes it difficult. Yeah, that's kind of it's kind of my thought is, I think shadow rider would be and you know, maybe with stopcoming reprints that will help shatter rider continue. Oh Baby, I can't wait for ultraball, I think. Yeah, I think ultra ball probably does a lot of Nice things for the deck, right, because you just play ultra ball over evolution in sense, and now you have, you know, a third of your deck has the capability of getting either as or can grab a chat. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'll be really curious. And for the UNINITIATED, is officially confirmed or is it like it is it was just said. It was just said it's like pretty heavily theorized. I suppose that ultra ball is is being reprinted in an upcoming set here. So obviously it's going to have a huge impact on the game. Yeah, I think so, and we'll talk about that more, of course, as it either gets more confirmed or we get further down the line, because that will definitely be a huge talking point. Yeah, for sure, that's said. You know, sounds like we have slightly different opinions on the format, but definitely like bears and horses are the top two decks. That much is indisputable, I think. For sure, do you want to talk a little bit about your your glc run with your lightning deck? Yeah, totally. So GLC was, I think it's my favorite format right now. Around one I played water against water. I should again say that I was playing a lightning deck. So my lightning deck, I was saying on the cast last week and I got called out for it at the tournament and they're like, I thought you were going to play dark, you know, and I was like, because I was hyping up dark a lot. I did, I did, but I didn't. Okay, so, so I did because, yes, I did play lightning, but I didn't, because lightning and dark are very similar in a lot of ways. And you said element on the cast. Yes, so, so, yeah, just to run it back again, you have Hoopa and dark and you have Zaptos and lightning. You have strong one energy attackers in the form of Lux Ray and we vile, and then you have a pokemon that should generally take two prizes. You have your Guzz Lord and dark and then your rye Ku in lightning. But the difference is that the lightning deck just has draw support that the dark deck doesn't. So what I found was when I was playing dark, I would just run into the lake game. I'd get to the late game and I've got a cruise through the early game and I get to the lake game and I'd be running out of good attackers and I just get end or reset stamped into, you know two or three cards and then just not be able to draw out of that and end up losing my board position and losing the game. And so so I figured I would go with lightning because I had three different ways to draw cards. In the early game I had the Magneton, which is it's a good card. It's not your ideal card, but it certainly has its uses, that's for sure.

Yeah, now, for sure, for sure it has its uses. And in it came and clutch a number of times. And then I had, you know, the Voltorb electrode line and then the Zeb strike a line with the sprint, and so I just felt like there were three different stage ones that I could use to draw cards. I was never going to be fully out of a game just because I had a dead hand, like if I had, they were just opening up so many more possibilities to what I could have in a starting hand if I just had those draw cards. So so I have to to go with lightning. Round one, man, and told you that you did as you did. Yep, and I kind of listened. Around one, I played against water and Tom Marking and I was able to win. I find that that's a pretty good matchup for water, although I will say that the spread variant is a little bit scarier the one with Kayoker. But Tom was playing just to beat stick. Water deck very reminiscent of the ones that could match up for water or lightning. It's a good matchup for lightning. Okay, it's a good match up for lightning, just because you have weakness on a number of their pokemon. Yeah, and then they all have things that have to evolve, so yours APP those can be very potent in the early game, you know, because they usually will lead, you know, Sam or sobble or Squirtle, right a, just knock that thing out of the park, and then if you can find like a goose MOA or a boss, yeah, it's it's pretty good. And then round two, I played against Beckett and he was playing dark. Now Beckett is a another, I guess what, former Columbus player, and he was playing a dark deck, and that is it's it's pretty even. But again I find like if they can get their be string off and make their their and make their guzz Lord live, you know, two turns, then it they're going to have a really good time right and if they don't get that then, you know, if you knock it out after they take their two prizes or if they just never find b string, that could be really tough for them. And that's pretty much I having a Beckett. He just wasn't able to, in the Middle Lake Game, pull anything together. And then round three I played against twitch user Tankman, and he was playing a colorless deck and Natalie said that it was a crack deck, that it was just so cool. Unfortunately, the poor your tank minute a cracked, like crash it up, poor on variant. Oh, I believe so. Yeah, I believe so. I didn't really gets used that variant that Natalie would describe as the crack deck. It seemed cool. I didn't really get a chance to see it because again, I was like kind of I started off really fast and I was just picking apart a lot of his board, so I didn't really get to see the full strat. But that was a really cool deck. I would have liked to play that to like a real match, and then I played a lightning mirror. Oh around for was intense. So I made a I made probably the biggest misplay of the weekend in round four, where I had an active I had an active Luxeo and I was hyper focused on the disconnect attack, which is an item lock attack and it does thirty damage on a stage one. I was like hyper focus on this. So he brought up a Mariep and he put me to sleep and I flipped tails on the sleep and then so I was just like, Oh, okay, I don't have a knockout. On the next turn he evolved into flaffy and then I was like, Oh, I don't have a you had luxury. Yeah, I had the Luxey. I had the EVO in sense and I was like, I think I was saving it for like a SIB strike or something, but I just had that in hand, like I should have just played it. And then that would have done a couple of things. It would have, you know, allowed me to take a knock out. I would have gone up by two prizes, which you know, is it's always just better in GLC to get up by more than one prize right, like like, if you can. A lot of times the games were just trading back and forth. So if you're able to take that one prize advantage, then you know it doesn't matter if all you guys get knocked out, because you're ideally just trading prizes from there on out. So it would have given me that extra prize advantage and then it also would have prevented me...

...from getting knocked out on the following turn because he just didn't have an attacker and I would have taken out his flaffy, which meant that he would have one less because his lightning deck wasn't my lightning deck and his lightning Dick was more focused on getting a heavier attackers like the Rye Ku and the Z that crown. So really using the dynamoter abilities. Yeah, but I didn't think the knockouts. who was able to like dinamoter twice till I go ze Crom I don't remember exactly the specifics, but he dinamotered. Maybe he was a Zaptose that he got up and he just took the knock and I he's like building up energy on US board and I was just as like, that's so stupid. So anyway, in the late game it's tied two to two on prizes and I basically come up to a point where I just had the sack of pokemon. I think. I attack with this aptose into something, but it wasn't quite a knockout, and so he goes well, I know this is a bait, but I'm going to do it anyway, and he attacks and he knocks out my pokemon that I send active, I don't know, my Zaptose or something, and so he goes down to one prize and I have a Rye coup on my bench and I just need to get the counter energy to like do one hundred and twenty two the bench and take my two prizes and win. And I end up not finding it on that turn. So I send up some beefy pokemon that can take a hit and I'm like okay, he just has to not have gus and I like and or something a reset stamp, and he doesn't end up finding guss. So I have one more turn to dig and then I find the counter energy and I get it and you get that rack who up and take my last two prizes. So there you go. That was pretty exciting, probably the best match of the weekend. And then round five, six ID was a six round tournament, so I went for no and then I did my last two in top eight. Played Against Autumn Balandron with is grass deck, and so Otto is a player that's been playing a while, but he got handed a grass deck for Andrew like the night before, yeah, or no, the day of, the day of because he was working that night or something. So like he's like yeah, play this and he ended up making it into top top eight. You go auto notioned. I was pretty sad to be playing them. And then I was pretty sad because, like you never want to cannibalize, cannibalize friends in the in the first round. That's super, super disheartening. But anyway, he like pops the heck off, like in the first game where he gets a he gets a forest of giant plants on the first turn and like, keep in mind I only have one stadium to counter that, so I am like digging frantically for it. But he gets the force of giant plants and then he finds like a couple of evolutions and he starts the shanotic and he gets that so he can start to search out all this other glands pokemon and he clips. Yeah, I remember he flipped two heads on timer ball while he had the stadium out and it was just like, oh my gosh, it's a blood bass sane. Yeah, so then I forget how I bring it back. There was one really crucial turn with a LUX ray that I think I like gusted up his real a boom and then I use Lux ray and I was able to take a oneshot knockout on the real a boom and he hadn't really been able to get much energy and play at that point. So I felt good about that. And then with a luxury I took a few more prizes and then he was able to get the rare candy real a boom back. So I get that back out into play. But then there was like one turn where I took a took a big knockout and I hexed and then that was kind of that was kind of it for grass. It just I just had just enough to get there across the finish line and then I don't quite remember how game two finished it. It wasn't as good as game one, but then I headed into top four, top eight. I wasn't streamed. So I finally got to be on stream in the GLC and that was a lot of fun. I played against a dark player that actually I played round one of the prior day. So he...

...was my ray quasit opponent in round one and he was a former magic player. So well, former or maybe still still plays, I think. Actually, I take that back. So place, but it's it's really funny. I don't know if you really interact with a lot of magic players, but but I have over over the time that I've been playing and there since magic and to an extent, Yugio as well. Like they're very you have to be very aware of what your opponent does. He was super acknowledging of everything that I did. Right, like I says okay and stuff like any yeah, because, like you know how pokemon it's a little more solitaire, like our board. Like sure, it affects the opponent's board, but there's nothing that's like an immediate effect, right, like you could figure out on your turn the effects that are on your Pokemon, right. So like yeah, he was like Yep, Uh Huh, seems good. Seems Good, Uh Huh, like everything, and I like, Oh yeah, like magic player in the House. So it was that was really fun. And so, yeah, I played him with dark and he just missed B string I think both games on the turns that he needed it. I was able to get a quick, you know, early attack really kind of stifle his board position and then I ended up using Ryku pretty well in both games to to take the win. And then in top two I was off to a great start. I remember winning game one. I watched back game two and there were a couple of errors by both of us. The first one was my Cynthian Caitlyn. I did them in a re did the CYNTHIAN Kaitlyn and a reverse order, which, just looking back on it, I think I think I have a really good shot to win that game if I don't have a double prize penalty, because basically I just needed to I had a board set up that was pretty nice, but I just needed the game to go a little bit longer. So, anyway, what I did was I drew my three cards and then I picked a supporter out of the discard pile and it's like well, you know, of course, yeah, I can't blame the judges for that. They did a really great job. I think throughout the course of the event cracking down on those things. So I just made an error. That was sad for me. And then tray made an air where he drew an extra card, or he didn't draw an extra he like saw an extra card potentially, and that was sad because we were both set back to to, you know, only taking four prices. Claim. Yeah, yeah, it so. It kind of like even now. But unfortunately I think I think I'm better, in a better position if we both had to take six prizes, because my board was a little bit behind trays and he just had a bigger, you know attacker at the right time and he was able to take two prizes and and it and then in and then in the last game. I like watched it back because it was kind of a blur at that point. I was actually trying to play faster because I was thinking that, you know, tray trains deck could take multiple prizes in a turn. So I was trying to get a big lead before time is called. Uh, and and I wasn't wearing my watch, so I didn't really have a good idea of where time was, but I was playing kind of fast and like maybe not thinking exactly like clearly, but I just remember, like watching it back, I remember trey getting just like such. There was a there's one sequence in the early game that I knew that I had kind of like you just know that you've lost when this series of place happened. So he has an active Guarantina and he attached one energy as like his first turn, and he had a bench ralts and that was his only board position. So I'm like I can definitely punish this if I can goozma up the ralts or or if I can just, you know, knock out this this guarantina before can attack me. And I end up going in with his aptose into the active because I wasn't able to get an escape roper or Goosema or boss or anything. But I put that to sleep. I put the active Guarantina to sleep, and so he has to flip for sleep and he flips heads. If he flips tails there I don't think he has a way to retreat and...

...attack, but that's neither here nor there. So then he also gets a rare candy in the guard of war, which I'm like pissed. I I'm laughing at him. I could see pulls the guard of here, out of his deck, and I think you can kind of you can kind of see this on the on the stream game, and I'm like, Bro, if you have rare candy, like I literally say. I like Bro, if you have rare candy here, I'm going to be sick. He's like, I got rare candy. I'm like, I'm sick. And he were candies into the guard and that's really hard to defend because it's just such a tank and it can accelerate energy to his other guys right like jaws cards and draws cart like it's just so good. It's so good, especially on turn what two or three that he had it, and so he was able to draw two cards and he got the stadium and that was a killer because I just wasn't able to get rid of that stadium for the longest time and he took two knockouts with that, with that guarantine. It was like basically at that point that I had knew that I had lost, because you just can't get I didn't have a response after that initials APP those it was. It was just rough from there. And Yeah, that was the crucial turn that he needed to again go up by one really put all the pressure on take out my only real attacker. I had to sacrifice of Pokemon and it was just kind of downhill from there. So yeah, yeah, so, so I was but yeah, still walked away with a hefty amount of prising. So yeah, probably made about a, you know, five hundred bucks on the weekend. So all on all cannot too bad much. Can't complain. Yeah. Well, congratulations on some awesome showings. Sounds like it's a really exciting, fun event and shout out to full grip and and Andrew and Natalie and all the folks there for helping to put that on. Yeah, it was awesome. I can't thank them enough. I hope we get to do something in the future. But yeah, well, the other tournaments on the on the horizon here. So I'm not going to play in the Pog Championship. We're having some friends in town and I just I don't know. I played in it last year and it was like twelve hours or something and it just I don't know, man, especially after playing like in person, like the online game is, is still really fun, but I don't know if it's I don't know if it's twelve hours fun for or you know, and full of packs. So sure I'm not going to be playing in that, but hopefully there's hopefully there's something coming up. I want to start doing on the channel, a little more tabletop action. I've been reaching out to some local players and saying, you know, Denk is, Hey, you want to come over some time and we could do like a four person like round robin type thing that I would maybe like commentate and we can hang out with the guys for a little bit. So that might be in the near future terms of in terms of tournaments. Yeah, well, I'd be fine. Do you have its evolved opinions on Jim Leader Challenge coming out of it about what the best decks might be? So I think that lightning is the best deck and I think it could be nerved slightly by banning, like or retiring maybe one of the draw support so like maybe just retiring the zepstrake. I think would really newter the deck in a way that wouldn't make it too, you know, terrible, but wouldn't make it, you know, the kind of draw powerhouse that it currently is. And then I also really enjoy the water snipe deck. I think that deck is crazy good. Yeah, the chiarger deck seems quite good. Basically anything that's nips. Yeah, basically anything that's knipes is like really cool. And then there's also, of course, the Y, the sidekick deck. That one, I think, is you know, tray psychic deck is quite nice as well. So I would say those three are the ones I would consider heading into any future tournaments. Yeah,...

I think the lighting deck is my favorite personally, just the fact, yeah, the fact that you can get those, the fact that you can get those early knockouts is so strong. And then you have a couple of beefy stage two's so you can you can stay in those like really grinding games with those big poemon and then you just have insane draw. So yeah, it's it's best part about it too. Just got, yeah, so many options on any given turn. There any other cards you would, you know, maybe consider for retirement in the GLC UM? Yeah, I mean I think the snipe stuff, like I would consider retiring the amazing rares or maybe putting them on like a rotation. I think that could also read pretty cool, like if Andrew or to say like okay, we're not necessarily banning them forever, but just maybe for this you know, this season you know this. Three months we're not going to do amazing rays or something. I think that could be kind of cool. So, yeah, the the amazing Rayors, I I think could go just because they provide a little too much, too much spread, and they can really dominate a board position. Yeah, I feel that I've kind of like waffling on the amazing rays. I also almost want to consider like X for retirement. I think HEX is one of those cards, though, that I don't know how much like you're that decision is based on like how much you've played, but I feel like Hex is one of the only car or one of the few cars that allows for a come down Max. Yeah, no, I I see that side of it, but I also feel like I feel like Hex is used more to win harder than it is to like prevent comebacks, that it is like a really back. Yeah, and I'm my opinion. Yeah, I definitely like played hex when I was up and like just completely destroy, like completely destroy any hope of I'm coming back as a yeah, it's been great able to come back. No, no, it's a great thing, in my opinion. Like heck does kind of give you a way to come back, but usually if you're trying to come back, you're trying to like draw cards, like build up like your boards state, whereas usually, like hex will kind of also shut that down. It is right. I don't know. That's kind of my take on Hex. I could I could understand hex not being bad. I think. I think I would consider first and foremost the amazing rares. I think they're their power budget is like a little higher than maybe the single prize basic intended. Yeah, it's tough, though, because I think, like the lightning amazing rare, Ryku is a little bit balanced in the sense that you you, you if you're trying to go up on prizes early with the Zaptos. So it's often energy. It's a little yeah, so like the counter, so you have the like there's three terms of attachments that you need to get onto the RACKUS. So like it doesn't feel too too bad. The KYOGRE is, I don't know that it's necessarily a different story, because they're both definitely more like repeatedly abusable just by yeah, sure of like the type it's built around. Yeah, yeah, so the that would be the only thing. For the tiger is like well, you also get the melodic which has kind of frustrating to deal with. Yeah, I don't know if you watch the the Chiger deck that was streamed. I did. That was that was insane. Also, Caleb play the deck that I would have played at the colorless control there. Yeah, yeah, that was I was trying to talk about before. Is like you have, yeah, all these different like dolls and rang guru and, yeah, all your disruption cards. Yeah, so fun. Yeah, I love that kind of stuff. Well, I don't think it wins against I don't think I went against lightning. I have no idea. Never played the matchup but got the test. Not...

...a lot of people want to test those matchups. That's true. That's true. That's a little difficult, but you know, all around great stuff. You know, we're brotting up on probably the end of of where we want to be in terms of time here, but I did want to give our car the day and then we could talk a little bit about some up coming topics we got here on the cast. So car the day today is a very special card from the plasma freeze set, JW. Do you have an inkling for what that might be? Is it isn't an I SPEC no, it's not a is it a isn't a pokemon? No. Is it a supporter? You're take it too long. It is. Is it course no, although chorus is a good is a good choice there. Corus are definitely like an alltimer card. Yeah, it's ultra ball. Flas free is older than I should have known. The goated print of Ultra Baal. Anyone who says that Sonno, Moon and better is lying to you. As JW pulls out his son and Moon, ultravol and cry, yeah, you're right here there in this box. But flasi calls are all just so sick, so awesome. Honestly, I think originally one sun and moon dropped. I like that style better, but as I played the game longer I kind of appreciate the fact that it that the plasma freeze one's kind of in like the original formatting of the card in a way. But it's just gaudy and gold and awesome. Yeah, so, in honor of like Ultra Bal being kind of like hinted at returning, I thought it'd be nice to honor the goat. That is a goat indeed. I can't wait to have that boy back. So in the coming week some we wanted to talk about a new upcoming thing in the TCG, that being the the objective, Deac, and kind of like the ways that you should be thinking about like you're testing and deck building in general. So look forward to some more topics there. I'm also thinking that we should be talking more in the coming season and we have rotation, so kind of about like some deck building fundamentals. We haven't talked about that in a little while, so look forward to some of some things there and of course we'll be talking more about post rotation met as inevitably develops into a way that we could have never for seen. Yeah, no doubt, and we have. Yeah, for just to speak a little bit more on that objective deck, it's a website that you can use to give you some statistical insight into your games. That's that's about the extent that I know of it. I've played around with it a little bit, but we'll be talking a little bit more about that in the coming weeks. We'll also be talking about the new clients that will probably be premier in about weeks right, like, because they're gonna probably run well, they're probably going to run the draft the world tournament through this new you think so that would be my guests. I think that would ailing. I think that would be if they don't run it through, that they'll at least like showcase it. But it makes sense because playing in past formats you would have, you know, potentially like different rule sets or different bands or something depending on the format. So, like, I don't know, I could see that being being a part of of the the draft the world tournament. Yeah, so the future of how we play trading cards virtually also on the table. A lot of cool stuff on the horizon. There's there's plenty of things to talk about. We also got celebrations coming within the next month or so, which I am personally really excited about. I got some free orders in and I can't we just we don't have enough time soon. It's going to be like an hour and a a half or twohour cast, I know, I know. But with that, I...

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