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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 10 · 1 year ago

3-10. Amazing Shiny Rare VMax Sword

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are dropping mad knowledge on the Player's Cup, and supplementing it with lots of fun takes on the future of the game. Featuring Amazing Rares, Shiny cards, and a Rusted Sword...

Hey what is up everybody welcome backto tag team. The POKEMON trading card games, premier podcasting to my name-is Riley Holbert joined, as always by my good good friend, JW Cree Wall J hasa Hanger Day. EYIT's gone pretty well. Rigley. Today was a pretty Nice Day forme. Dude, I got to say for the audio listeners you're looking you'R lookingfresh today. Am I thank you. Well I just got. I just got the hair can saythe hair catet wetirt on yeah got the yeah, I'm looking really cumfy andreally cozy and definitely very fresh yeah, so fresh so how's it how's itbeen going man, he said going well. Yeh It's been good. Today was nice gotanother youtub video out doing some more. I post another tick tack, AotherSi Tuck Yeah. I got some coding work done. I was, I think I talked about this lastweek, but I've certainly talked about it on the Streem, where it's like. NowI'm getting into the stuff where it's like a little bit too hard for me to doon my own yeah and I don't really understand the materialbecause it's like free material and they don't really explain it like a ton.You know they'll give like a yeah. You know lesson. One is like okay here thebasics and then like lesson to is like okay build this module d. it's like Ohthere's, no like in between kind of tiared step there, but it's been. It's beenreally fun to learn, H, stuff and then I've done some practicing andreadmaking. So it's definitely a full day. That's awesome! That's awesome! Iheard you what soing what's going on, so I think it's o yeah you like coatingright right. I think it's. I think it's interesting. I think that I'm startingto see some of the differences in the languages kind of be more apparent, andit's like there's some syntax things that I just yeah, don't quite get inJava script. Yeah. I know there are some. There aresome. You know semi colons, that go in weird places that I don't understandwhen they're you know around what are the curly brackets? What do you callthose I call them curly bracket? I don't matter there's like oneexpression where you have a curly bracket and then you put a Semicolon,but it only happens like one time and then there are other there's this oneother function that I learned today. That was weird because you capitalizethe first letter Huh and I was like that that does as uppose like the firstletter being lower case in the second one to being appicated yeah yeahexactly so. I don't know just like weird things like that, I'm like I'mreally. You know I'm probably reading way too deep into it, but those are thekind of of things that are confuseing me right now. That's funny theprogrammers who listen, the podcast are cringing right now for sure I know yeahfor sure they definitely are. I Mi had is been it's been prettysmooth. You know m working on a couple, big projects at work and that asHavetein going really well, I started playing Gatan online with mycollege friends his past the past couple weeks and it's been like a really good way toreconnect with actually even some of the folks that I mentioned just in thelast episode. Are you guys playing Katan Universe, no we're actually usingcolonist io, which is like just a browser base thing. So it's like super convenient and I found out about it because I gotreally into Katan Youtube recently, which is delighted, yes, delighteddelighted exactly Antricosorus as well OA who host likethe King of Katan tournaments, and so I got really into that, and so now I hade,like all sorts of opinions, an Akatan that I didn't know I had. I have a new found appreciation forCatan. After watching delighted, videos like I used to think it was tyeah. Iused think Iwsrg fest. No, I didn't think it was all rgfst, but I was likewinning like very consistently every single game that I played, and I wouldjust- and I kind of subconsciously, knew like okay. Development cards aregenerally the way to go and, like generally speaking, cities are reallypowerful. So I would always kind of go for that. Dev Card City Strat, which you know and then you play against you,know your watch delighted videos and he talks about all these differentmechanics that go into you know where you place your initial road and thingsIG. I just hadn't thought about it like going to ports early or not Oye exactlywell. For me, it was like my friends and I were similarly sfilled, and so italways felt like it just came down at ice rolls but like and like yourinitial placements, whether they were good or not, but, like I feel, likeI've, had a much deeper appreciation for like the nuance. I always knew thatthe initial placements was like really the most strategic part of Catan ND. Istill think that is like the case, but I have such a deeper appreciation forlike the different strateties you could pursue and like how you can build froma board. You have like quite a bit of noise inyour background right now. Oh, do I apologize it, nor is it ts actuallystopped. So...

...l could be some practicing, that'seatering upstairs. Is it sound like a clarinet sounds like a clarinet, yeah,okay, okay, it's that big deal so yeah. I new fand appreciation forCatan, I'm enjoying playing it a lot. I was kind of brornt out on the game awhile ago, if you asked fe like a year ago, but I'm Havig much deeper respectfor the game now yeah and you, but I am also very excited for some upcomingevents in the poke verse. We got Players Cup to really just on thehorizon. Here. It's actually it', actually wild like how quickly it cameup after the the first one or like the qualifier rather ended. So let's talk about. Let's talk abouthow the metal is developed because I feel like this Meta just does not sitdown and stay put. That's right! That's very true! So t JW,you've, you've been streaving. A Lot. You've been playing a lot of games.What have you noticed has been shifting across the the landscape of the MEDA inthe last couple weeks? Well, I'm going no make a kind of a bold statement.It's going to feel a little bit dirty to say, but I don't really feel likeADP is a massive threat. I know I feel the same.I actually feel the same. I think that it doesn't take a ton of good matshipsfrom the other decks that are being played, certainly it. You know we talkabout as being kind of this gatekeeper of the format in the sense that t itkeeps out a lot of decks and it certainly does. But if you look at theother tar one deck and I think O'f like a prime example, is like theatterniists matchup. I don't particularly think that that is a goodmatchup for ATP. It certainly is winnable and that's one of the reasonsthat you might want to consider ATP, but you know it has all these winnablematchhups, but not ones that are necessarily favorable for it, and so Ihaven't really been liking. ATP recently, Yeah I've never really beensuper into playing ADP, just because I don't really like how the deck feelsyeah and so I've been raming ATP at the wall over the last couple days.BCAUSEI'm like this teck is so good like I have to give. It is fair share. It is like haven't liked how it's feltand I've tried a couple, different variations on lists, and it just feels like the Meta is sowarped. Around ATP, like all the decks, can hang with it. You know, like theyeah. I never feel like super happy going into it. Matchup with API feellike yeah, you know you got people playing Youto, you got seny scorcheslike getting a million energies turn one. Somehow you have all sorts of crazy shenatigansgoing on with like atternitis, and you never know. What's going to be aninturn of this list, and you know it just: It feels like amass and even matchups that feel like they should be good. Like acadrill,like I feel like, I can lose that sometimes and Sur. You know like I'veplayed against an exrerl the other day where they hit a couple hammers in a row andlike really oppressed my energy, and then they got like turn two or threethey were doing. Tho hundred and eighty attack, with wit with the stadium,allows them to OCO. My Saso Im like wait, a second ethat's Alegal police. So it's just been a mess. Idon't know I just have, and I think part of it is like I own personal biaslike it's, not a dact that I enjoy playing, but it's you Ko like supercompy, I really like ATP, I mean I'll j t just come out andsay it like. That was a deck. I don't know prerotation that I justreally enjoyed, and I liked playing it- and I thought was the best steck in the format and thennow you know. Certainly it was like. I think it is a very good deck, but Ijust think I don't know for either. For some reason, the kind of the resultsfore not showing themselves- or I just the comfort level for me- hasabsolutely tanked in the sense that I still think. Of course, ATP has thepotential to win, but I just don't think that that it's, the like DFACTO,like stere deck in the format. I think that there are a lot of other decksthat can really compete and give ATP run for the money like turnitis againhas a favorable matchp against ADP, something like Pikaram can go prettyeven from my testing results. So particularly if you can get a hammer oryoall ground on that first turn yeah and then you have things like CentoScorch, which I find is like a pretty even to unfavorable matchup for ADPyeah for sure I just feel like ATP takes really closematchups across the board, which is certainly not a bad thing, inherentlyyeah, but when I'm playing a deck like ATP, Ifeel like I want to have at least a one blowout somewhere, and I don't feelYeah Haing that yeah and even something...

...like Blasephalon can get kind ofsketchy. I mean that should be a matchip that you win more often thannot, but recently I've been. I don't know whatever it's been like, there'ssomething in the water for bless upon, because that deck is just ruiningpretty much anything I send id up against ASEE. I never have thatexperience te Bl Stephlon, but I always have that experience with seady scorgeevery single Suny SCORC I play with, has turned one welder Vor, two with aVolcanian start, and it's like like what a I even do now: Yeah Yeah,whereas I I play abl step a lot. I always just like six outf them yeah they just dead, draw and nothinghappened, yeah and he just marnt Hot Sam return, but Everyi every time, I'magainst the Sudy's course. This exact scenario happens. It's so crazy! That'sreally funny! Well, let's talk about it. Let's talk about the rise of fire,because I've definitely seen that to kind of this Bisephelon is being a little bit morepopular. I've played it in. I played an online tournament a couple weeks agoand the pokaxs regional and saw Bla Sapalon saw Tublasufflon. I think, and they both like kind of cream me and then sent toscorch. Also just that has been a deck. I've been seing a lot on the ladder to so what do you think about peoplechoosing a fire deck specifically those two? I don't know that there wouldother be another one, maybe like Reso, Hart or Somet, but reshazard SurBracksard, and what do you think about people?Choosing a firedeck like Senta, scorcher Bleseplon, for a Players Cupto? Is that a good choice in your opinion and is the Meta rite for it? I think the Meta is in a decent placefor it. A lot of people are really primed on Lucario malmetal. Right now,I feel like it continues to do very very well. Atonline events at least the ones I've paid attention to IAVE had a reallystrong, equarum, tmat metal, showing and even with weaknor guard energy. Thefire decks can usually give Luaralmy metal runs for this money, especiallyif they play something like Eurotina to remove it. So I think that's definitely a majorpro of the fire deks. I I struggle to play them myselfbecause I think there's a couple of keylaws. So if you're in a best ofthree, for example, it's really hard to get going. Second was special, so thismostly pice Senti scarch, thanks forth, really really thrives going. Second,and certainly it can win going first, but I think, maybe more than any otherdeck in the format it wonts to o a second, and so you already have it on the coinflip, whether or not you get to go second and then throughout the serieslike it's, even it gets like even lower odds of like you getting second overallright, so it just that feels kind of awkward to me. Butseplan. I don'treally like playing in general, because it's just a kind of inconsistent deck and I don't know the matchuperss ATP islike maybe a little closer than a one prize. Teck should normally have, butit's still not want to feel great about. As you know, if they alls it's kind ofthe same as like any ATP matchup worth the ultimate right, you lose. If it'sATP is playing Marni, it's pretty easy for them to foll. That off. So I would say on the whole, like Idon't think, firedecks are bad. I think theyre, the Lecoro emetal is like veryreal, and the CRAR manable is like a deck that I'm really enjoying right.Now I've been playing a lot of it on the ladder. It's just every other matchup just feels kind ofawkward to me and even if the decks are strong, it's not something that Ipersonally would want to play. Yeah sure! Absolutely absolutely! Idon't know that yeah. I don't know that a fire deck would ever be somethingthat I would go towards. Maybe Weldermutu, I think, would be thefurthest that I would I have to like the like, the Walder Musu with the Cocoand it yeah that's been Super Fun Yeah it. It definitely is fun. Let's talkabout that for a second, I've been messing around with the lightningvariance of Meutu and it's actually put up some pretty decent numbers. A gottop five. Our excuse me top eight in a in an online tournament over the lastweek, and so what do you think about the kind of lightning ned to like? Isthat an actual play, or is it kind of more of a meme like the cannet suplantpsychic based Mutu, as or even I guess water base met to? But I don't think Iwould ever consider waterbase mutude to be it's your one choice, but what do you think about lightning baseMutu, as opposed to psychic based me to? Is there an argument to run one overthe other? You know, I think it really justdepends on what you're expecting to see, I think lightning Meu to where thrivesthe most is. It has a slight. It's still a unfavorable Matchu but as Ithink, in my opinion, a slightly cleaner game plan against turnitis andthe fact that you can swift run into a flir strike like that's that's huge,yeah...

...and yeah. That's been my person, Ithink hit's been my personal favorite play is swift run with that deck Dhat aside, though, like thit, Turnispatchup still isn't great and that's something I've been seeing a lot ofrecently. I think poison anternitis has really really grown in popularariy over thelast month, or so you know, if going from like a fringe version of eternitisinto being the premier most play version Eturnis, I seei all the time onthe ladder and I wouldn't really feel comfortableplaying Youtu into a Meta that would have where I would play more than oneanturnit this in a tournament, and I think, that's very likely in theplayers, cop sure sure, absolutely absolutely so. Yeah. Let's talk alittle bit about a turn Itdthis. Would you say that atturniis is a good playfor the Players Cup to I personally think it is. I will actually trend moretowards playing the nonpoison version. I've always found that when I play thepoison version, I tend to have more ged draw opportunities, justbecause I'm playing less like consistent cards or you're playingevolution. So you can't really get them out onto the field as quickly they just get stuck in your deck, andyou know you have to draw them in the right order for them to even make adifference and I sa and so not that it's bad. It's certainly the poisonvariant covers some weaknesses, like you know,hitting those high numbers against vmaxes and like in the mirror, and thenalso against something you give yourself a better shot againstsomething like lucario Mel metal. That's going to you know, try to ripaway all your energy and then you know shut down how much damage you can do.So there are some advantages to poison variant. I'm just carious your thoughtsrily on Atturnitis as a play for the Players Cup to and if you think it's agood one. What would your list look like? I thinkit's a decent play. The Lucaro Mametal is really thetoughest matchup. I guess Ambev Seplon or probably the two toupest matchupsthat I would foreceev for atturnit is you know it's got a decent, decentchance against ADP, especially the poison, variance, pretty good igessseny scorce. I think that's really the big selling point of the personpoisonary in my mind is tat. It can really just blow ENA scorch out of thewater sure, and it has that extra layer of being somewhat effective against the car onthat metal. It kind of just it feels like the poison. Varyat kind of justdepends on how the corol metal draws more than anything sure like do theydraw them out in lot us when they need them to deal with the boy said which isn'tsuper easy to do grand, especially if you get like three Toxicrots ow o you do yeah Riakinup, of course, so I think I actually do like thepoison bariant. Just because of extra flexibility. I think we carl man metalis really popular right now. Seni cords is really popular right now, almost asa result of the Qarto memetal being popular and that's where the poison reallyshines. I do think the more straightforward version is betteragainst ATP. I think it's better against Pekeron, probably as well,except for the fact maybe playless switch. So I would say, like a Stafordversion that plays like a heavier switch count would be better againstpegerom sure. So the e, I think, there's you got a way on both. I would probably play a poison variantif I was to play itturn. It is just because I want to have that layer, AFflexibility, going into sure going to this kind of meadow, where it justfeels like there's so much random stuff lying around. That being said, I reallywould't fault anyone either for going with a more straightforward version. Ithink tha, the SIG aguns works very wellpkrams, also really popular deck and I's. I think that's a cleaner variantto run against a more straightforward, thatk, like pocro sure, absolutely okay,good. So, let's take a look at just kind of overall picture. We've talked alot about the INS and outs like the specifics of decks and why we would orwouldn't play them and what version we would play. But let's say like what arethe top decks that you're really particularly looking to metagame for,like Giv me top three or top five that you really either want to beat or justto like kind of want to have on the radar as you're building your deck at least based on what I've seen around.I think the top decks going into this event in terms of popularity are goingto be poison, Aternitis, senny, scorch and Zashi and Basdex I'm kind of goingto love ATPN the car on o metal. Just for purposes of like explain that et aI think of the two atypiis, probably the one. I had a game for more, but the MEDIS also kind of shaped roundATP. So maybe you've been a games of car, an a botl war, actually yea sure,so those are like the big ones. I'm looking at I'm kind of I'm in thisweird state that you get in pretournament, where ithere's always the next teck in theline right and you always like. Well,...

...you know I can take this dack and Ilose this teck. But I eat this steck. But you know, then I lose to this teckAbalalah, like we've. All we've all been that down that rapphol JW. Wetalked, we talkd all the time about how we're guilty of falling into it yeah.So what I think, when I think of just doze dacks, though like the sennyScorch, the poison aternitis and the Lecaral Melbatl, I think ppram- is areally really good choice right now. The one thing that is really botheringme about Pikrom is: Is All these weird excadrils Mani't? It's like really bothering me yeah, I mean it hit. I mean it's aboutas close to an Atto win, as I think we have in this format right now, and soyou know if you're, an excadrole player and you're saeing, hey atturnitthisseemi, like a pretty logical choice for a lot of players, pekeram is gaining alot of steam, particularly, I would say in the you know, upper esh line ofplayers like some of the better players. I know are kind of going with Pikaram,and so you look at those two decks being pretty big and you say hey, whynot excadril? Why not take this deck that just autos essentially ye to yes?So then you fall into this weird situation, where you kind of are hopingthat the ATPS can clean up the excadrils for you if you're playingpikerom or that they draw really badly, and you can like take advantage of thatyeah, because, certainly that that's possible, I guess, but exor dol hasjust so much item support in the deck. So that's been. That's Gen! Makein mereally uncomfy. That's really the only thing! That's stopping me from justslamming the Pakrab and calling it a day yeah. You know. As you know, Iplayed teground for over forty of my keys in the cup. I playe for another,like another fifteen hundred ladder points after that. So well that, andthat is one of the things about Pekeran is like it was supposed to not havethat weakness. Factor like nothing was really supposed to be Able Tho one shot,the Pekrum or the ride, Tho ride, Cho and so you're supposed to be able towin a lot of these matchrips, where, like one of those guys, took a hit atsome point. You know you let your opponent get down to like two or threeprize cards: Lafor one price card left and then you stamp them and you go inwith riht shew and then, if they can't have a response, then you know you justkind of figure out a way to win, but now, with the excadrill being a playerbecause it has performed, yeah is done. You know well compared to how manypeople are playing it. You know now you got to think a littlebit harder about whether or not that's a good plan yeah. So that's beenthessing me out and I don't really have like a solutionto that problem. Besides hoping that you don't hit excadril yeah other thanPekram, I think the other main deck that I'm looking at is thecaro Ma metal,probably with the inclusion of weakness cards just B. I don't like weaknessCard Energy, but I think the Meta is kind of formulate itself where I thinkSenta scorch is superwinible with weakness Gard if they don't playEurotina yeah, so you just. I have to make thatconcession just because the amount of sens worches I've been seeing. Latelyit's been unreal. I don't know if you've had the same experience, but Ifeel like I'm, hitting Senis worch every other game yeah. It feels veryhigh, like unusually high. I think there were peaks where Censa scorch wasparticularly prominent, and I think it's past that peak you know in the past month or two. There havecertainly been like ebbs and flows of Sento Scorch, but this definitely feelslike some of the strongest fire presence that there's been yeah. Sothat's that's. What's bothering oot Wih Caro Mo Motal, because I don't want toplay those crappy weakens card energies, but I almost feel obligated to. I think those are probably the twodecks that I would realistically play. I might whip up something last minute,but current state Wednesday night. Those are the two decks that I wouldeven consider playing. Pikeramand Lukemetal Yep, okay, yeah God. I meanthat lines up exactly with my players, Cup keys to so well, and I think youlook at it an, and it would be something that I also like if I wereplaying the player's Cupto like. I would also be looking at those twodecks just because they take a more long form approach to the game thatmany other decks don't have. You know, ATP wants to just end the game as quickas possible, atturn it. This is just doing as much damage for as littleinvestment as possible sent to scorce. I mean, I guess, that's a deck whereyou're kind of building up over time, but but there are those game plantswhere like when you win you're generally just kind of blowing out theopponent, because you have this massive beast on the field that they just can'thandle and your one shouting things. So there are a lot of these decks that arejust go fast. Go fast, go fast, Pikarom and Lecario mal metal in particular areones that aim to slow the game down. So it's pretty natural that I think youand I'm sure a lot of other players are looking into it. Just because you'regoing to have more time to execute a game plan, yeah so we'll see if ho and Zely, and I can cook upsomething special, but that's really...

...what's on the menu for me right now.Are you guys going to do some testing here in the next couple of days? Ohcertainly well at least be talking about what we've been playing and whatwe've liked and disliked and yeah. I imaginal probaly get some games ondiscord grave, the next day or so. So, what's the what's the day going to look like it starts onSaturday right yeah, it starts Saturday morning I mean you know. I got my nice littleset up here and I'm goinna probably bake some cookies and chill and playplay some peeprop. You know yeah there you go there, you go and it's doubleolimb. So you know you could be out at after what a couple hours right. Whoknows, I hope not yeah yeah, but it's I it's best of three. I think so. I guessI'd have to comple check the email, yeah yeah, but we'll a'll be readingrooting for you rally, of course, thank you Om, so good. I think that was agreat overview of kind of playerscup to obviously, if you guys have morequestions, there's still time to ask us, you know you can you can tweet at Tang,Tean Pokamon over on twitter or send us dms or anything like that? We arealways open and receptive to those questions. So now, let's move into cartof the week. I have been researching cards this week for my latest tick.Tock about Shiny Pokemon in the POKEMON TCG is going to be good and well it'snot going to be particular of that Bat, like that's that impressive, but it isa cart of interest that I think is really. I don't know to me it's kind ofinteresting and funny in a way, but there were shining cards that wererevealed in the neo series and in neo discovery, which is the secondexpansion of the neo block they introduce like eight Shiny Pokmonis like Charsar knocktowl. You know Steelix tyranitar, those onesthat you think they're like a very dark, looking yeah M on and they have the youknow Shining Aura about them anyway, and they sayshining, you know, knocktile shining chars are shining etc. So my card is part of that block and it is a cardthat it's just interesting, because the shinings back then like they didn'tquite have color schemes figured out, never shining cokemine, so th it wasn'tlike they had a kind of homogeneous way of dictating what colors a shiny pokmonwould be, or they didn't have. Every single pokmon mapped out, and so thecard that I am highlighting this week is a shining that you know has changedsince the card has been released so shining riot, Chu from that neodestinyset is just a different color now as a shiny that it was back then- and so Ijust think- that's really interesting how you know this. This huge companykind of you know just did this thing where it was like. Oh we're going toput out this product, but we don't. Actually you know we're going to modifyit later. You know, and it seems like a colorscheme- would be very simple to just decide and not really have to goback and modify things, but in any case the Shining Ride Shu from neodestinyand current shining ride. Sho are our different colors and I thought that wasinteresting. So what color was Jhinny Richo and like the Goldsilver era, whenit came out it was kind of like this. I don't know how would like a bluishtype. Oh really, and it's like more of a yellow, now right, yeah yeah, it'skind of an orangey yeah, orangey type, so yeah. I don't know just justinteresting something interesting that I found when I was that is Ling throughall the all the cards. That is really cool. Thanks for sharing, I love the shiny cards. Man I likeintegreting in that kind of stuff and the TCG well they're great, and I thinkthat's a great Segoa into the next yeah of toprics. We have a bunch of newcards being released in the Shiny Star viset. These were announced over thelast week. It's going to be a set that for English it's already well, it'salready been a release in Pan. Somebody can correct me on that, but it's goingto be released. E English between our fourth and fifth set of this block andscheduled for February Nineteenth Shiny Star v again is the name, but it couldbe called something else, possibly tying into the twenty fifth anniversarypokmon cards. It's supposed to be a set, that'sbigger than hidden fate, so hidden fats was somewhere around seventy. Seventytwo cards, I think, and then Tis sent, is supposed to be a hundred and twentytwo cards. So you know almost fifty...

...percent ar almost a hundred percentincrease there in just the amount of cards that we're going to see in thisset. So collectors are probably just like screaming inside, because it's just so many more cards thatthey're going to need to get Yeahu see a bunch of you know a bunch of reprints,the most notable that we've seen so far: laprus vemax as a shiny and charsardvmax as a shiny, which is a really cool car, just that black charsart. Thatlooks really menacing and it has a hollow kind of rainbow background. Ijust think the card looks super slick, probably the best charzard that that we've seen yet and a bunch ofother shiny as a fight words for sure et what those are fighting words forthe chars Ar Community. I don't know people have been hating onthe CHARS RDV and the vmax, but I I think they look pretty good man I feellike they can compete with some of the other ones with most of the other ones. Yeah. Wellcontinue, though, can of thing you there's a couple other cards, so wehave confirmed a Rhodem Rodam has an ability that lets it search out otheritem cards that have rotam in the name. So we were talking about this beforethe podcast, but in the standard format, if you play a Rhodum, you can searchout rodem phone or rotem bike and then in the expanded format you can searchout Rotam deck. I love that. I love that personal very just very importantto throw that out there. It actually probably won't make any difference, butthere's also coughing. That's been confirmed and then a bunch of othercards that aren't necessarily shiny. I mean we have the amazing rars. So Idon't you know Shin therethey're, just beautiful cars on Owtheir Shuti, shinycards. You know yeah, but they're, not shiny, pokmon yeah, but we also have Didov and did O v Maxthat are going to be in that set and I think the Dinov and the Diofvmax arevery competitively viable. The DIT Ofyeah, having an ability that allowsit to change like swap places with a V in the discard, so kind of thatversatile card that we always kind of see, Dido having beable being able toreuse, Pokemon v from the discard and then Didov Max for three colorlessenergy. You can copy one of your opponents. Attacks so seems likethey'll, be pretty viable and I'm excited for what they bring. You know anew little element, yeah, I'm sure therew'll be some kind of crazinessthat comes from like Didov, preserving the turms in play and crazy playersthat you can gup wit up from that yeah. Absolutely some of the biggest cards inthe set, though that I think a lot of people are talking about that that alot of people are a little bit nervous about m te included in a way, but ourRusted Sword and Rusted Shield. These are the Zashan and Zamas into specificitems. Rested Sword is probably the most concerning giving an additionalthirty damage tit to is lashan. Sorry, isn't it fifty? No! No! It's thirty. Are you sure I'm like pretty positive, okay, eitherAy? Well, it's it does an additional thirty damage. Ohthe opponent got active pokamon O O. I thought then well, okay, so yeah! Maybe I don't know-maybe you're thinking you're confusing it with the shield, so shield givesthat that oe is oh, no, actually what you're confusing with is the Yell FanTowel that one heels fifty I knew fifty definitely was, in my mind, Omsomething and I'm kind of upset that the fan towel th, so yeah, so wrustlendsord is plus thirty damage. Fan Towell is healing fifty from both actives andrusted. Shield is Sevenfen, do know that be to Zamasensis, so people areconcerned about rested sword just because of the potential that you havefor Zossion to do three hundred and twenty damage and potentially moreright. So, like you have all the damage, modifiers of you know, you have yourbase damage. Two Thirty got the Rusted Sword, That's plus the out O Havete,plus thirty s, Youre O Tudre. Ninety Yep, you got Leon, you know. If you'rebehind in prizes, you could go well, you know Sergilyon Leon, so you coulddo potentially plus I mean I eah sixt, her yes and then, and then you knowZigzagun pings and you know etce there a few other ways that you can modifydamage outputs, but the fact that a basic Fokemon that has two ways toaccelerate energy to itself like it has the ability- and it also has metal,saucer and then the fact that you give it the potential. You give it this likevery specific to that card damage buff, even though it already has a bunch ofother day. Amage buffs is a little bit concerning it's really interesting. I'msurprised that they did that it just seems kind ofunnecessary. In my opinion, yeah is not...

...what's that go ahead, it's probably notgoing to be as big of a deal as some people are making it out to be, but itstill is like a very like head scratching trend for them to just kindof keep putting these out, particularly in a metagame that has ADP. I think ifwe didn't have ATP- and it was just the swort and shield block like exclusively,then I think this card still doesn't make a lot of sense, but makes a littlemore sense in the fact that it's it is pretty hard to get up to those reallyhigh numbers to one shot B. Maxes but honestly, like three. Twenty is notcrazy, difficult and, like honestly, two ninety, if you just have the you know, if you just have the item andthen have like the ATP damage buff, you can get those extra three four fivedamage counters by you know Zigzegun pings and poison damage. You know ifyou want to go that route, so I mean well. The I'm just saying likethe fact that it's available to us is the fact that we're even kind of like considering if that's possible, is just concerning yeah. I guess my takeonrested sort outeoutside of Meta is, I think I think Pokamana is trying toprint like another Zashi, an V and another Zamazentav like yeah,completely disparate from anything Meta. I think they want to print like thebase version of the dogs, and this is like met to be used with them. Yeah that all aside, though, I'm curious like what the actual likequantifiable impact of Ruston sort will be because, like people are talkingabout it in the context of doing these like crazy long combos and it's justlike, is that easier than just bossing it to Tenna like yeah, yeah suresre,Butt just feels like you're, calling, if your depk with like a lot of stuff. So I'm really curious like how itactually impacts the Meta, because to me it doesn't seem, like, I think, thathe places where I see it being the most practically applicable. ArcaoingYoutu is and Kaoing atps ECA, oh ATP, or I was thinking like Pica, I meanlike we already have like tool scrapper for that too. You know like yeah sure,so I mean I guess it. Let's. You can't write you sure, so, I'm just like really curious. I don'treally have like a better explanation than the fact T, I'm just curious howit'll actually pan out. I think I think it won't be as insane as people aremaking out to be, although it is still baffling to me that they are likeprinting a card o that buffs sashion of all cards. You know, like I think at best you know it's probablyjust kind of signaling the death of of the tag teams. You knowwith this with that and that's that's a little right, thiy've like given upbalancing our attacines yeah, exactly exactly and then yeah and then at worst,it's a return like a d escalation of theMeta, in the sense that like if people do find ways to very consistently getout like a three twenty attack like potentially the death of vmaxes, I meanthat would be extreme, absolutely extreme, but I mean hey. You never knowwhat they're going to keep printing so just gotta Yeah Ivtoy that I'm really kind of Nagon the card, though I don't think the cars is that big of a deal all ight until I mean I will be gladlyproven wrong and like there might also be other extranes Factoris, like youknow it a future set. There might be another card that really ties this alltogether. Sure. Absolutely absolutely so. We're going to open up the floor tosome questions, but while we're doing that, we have some amazing rares thatwe also should talk about that are going to be released in the Shiny StarVisa we've already gotten in vivid voltage, things like GERANCI and Rikouand Raquaza, but thereare still more to be printed so kind of proving that theamazing rars are not just. You know a one set kind of thing thatthey will likely be a mechanic that will see the new prers of stars yeahheading forward, and so we have kyoger reshiram and Eveltel Koyoger.All these pokemon. By the way have you know ridiculous attack costs, butKoyoger can spread aity damage to every one of your oponets Pokmon Russhu Romdoes resu ussha Ram Fresharan as ram you wrote, Rushirom Se Ram. I I have. I have the Zacramrashi Ram Cardin my mind: okay, so Rashi Ram, doing two hundred and seventy damage and thenevaltall doing an auto Kao move, although it does take five energy intoit: R Ey, different colored energy, yeah right, and so...

I don't know Rali. What do you thinkabout these cards because I kind of have some pretty I don't know? I have an opinion on theamazing rears and at least a hope in the amazing rayers. But what are your thoughts about? You knowthese new cards that are printed? Do they have any competitive viability? And you know are you you know? Doesthis make you do these cards that are coming out and make you more interestedin like what they could do with amazing rrayers in the future yeah? And we werekind of talking about this before the cast? I think there has to be something thatthey're planning to do to make these like more viable, as opposed to justbeing like pretty collector cards, because I think, as it stands right now,getting three different colored energy plus usually like another one IV, afillan attack cost its a tall order. That being said, if there is some wayto alfill these attacks, like they're, athey're, amazing, Lik, they'e, reallygood. You Know Velta, obviously auto kayoing, the Cyoger, the spread hat's,an insane spread attack and the honestly, I think the Resteram is,might even be the best one of the bonch. Just because has a cheap cost and itdos so much damage does so much. Damige is actually insane when I first when I look at everyamazing reare, the first thought is like: could we break this expandit I've already seen some like goofyCambos people, Arepu staying on Burbank with the the Perloin that copiesattacks on a coin flip. You know what I'm talking about: YeahYeah Soi you just copy the ee O iwhould be super funny. That's amazing!You know you need a Victdi and a glimwid tangle or whatever like that,would be o. We have Gamingoor and the chat there saying Ho ex. That would beanother good one, secet yeah and then flip a coin for rebirth, and then youput three different energy on the bench and then you us, like a boything yeah.I think there's GT, there's a lot of cool stuff that opens up an extanddwith amazing reares. I have to think they're planning on doing something andstandard like maybe and not to steal, like your idea, but I think it wouldlikely be in the form of like non vsupport. That would also like atjust ancelary infact benefit theamazing rayers yeah. Can you just say that I had that idea, just so wei kindof like implied it Watl you apply to, but you need to say it specifically.Now I'm cool I'm cool now, but yes, I would agree, I think, to methe amazing raers and like the first set, I thought. Okay, maybe these arejust kind of collectors cards. Maybe these are just like filler cards or specifically forthat collecting aspect of the set, but then, as they're prunting, these newones, I just can't help but feel that there's going to be some type of special energy or tool or ou knowspecific. You know, like you, said, specific support for the amazing raresor Non v Pokemon, more than likely that will help them achieve their attackinggoals, and I think this it seems to me- and Icould be completely wrong, but it seems to me that this is some sort ofbalancing mechanic that it hasn't been fully revealed to us yet, particularlyat Resshi Ram. Doing two hundred seventy damage, like you said, that'sjust like an absurd amount and then to have just kind of a recoil effect likenothing to too bad right. It's not it's not liketo you know it's not debilitates Caturas, F, yeah, and so you something like that like if therewas a if there was a triple excel energy for a basic, you know that did three different types or somethinglike that's kind of what feels like could be released in he future, andthis is just kind of a balancing mechanic for the game to take us backto these one prize Pokemon, I could Belliev a thousand percent wrong andnothing comes out, and these cards are purely for collection standpoint, aswe've seen. Many other shines in the past. Have these like ridiculous attackcosts, but I don't know that's just my hunch for these cards, particularlybecause a lot of the attacks feel like they could be viable as long as you canfulfill the energy cost and like that's the limiting factor, so I think there'sgoing to be some kind of support for them. Yeah and I do want tospecifically say if there is support it'll likely be in the form of likenongxv support, because amazing us don't have a tag or anything, and Ithink that's what you're already implying. But just I see there somerubling at chat. I think it would be in the form of Nongx and V support and ifthey wanted to tailor it specifically to amazing rares, it could be somethinglike you said where it's like a triple energy, but it very specificallyapplies three different colors and like doesn't fulfil a colorless cost orsomething yeah like that. Could I think...

...that would be like a way tospecifically target the amazing reares Yeah Yeap, absolutely so great. Well,let's open it up to chat questions. Raly. Have you seen some chackquestions that we want to yeah tonight, yeah, so John Posted asking about howhe can help his seny scorch deck an dealing with poison aternitis earliertoday and honestly, I think that matchups isreally really tough, there's not an immediate one size, butit's all solution. You could potentially add big charms to try andjust like assup the math a little bit, but I don't know if that's really aneffective solution to the problem. Yeah. I wouldn't say that I thinkyou're just taking a hartolt there. I don't know that there's any type of tech, particularly one that would belike. Oh yes, I'll just slot something in like one or two cards, I thinkyou're just taking a bad match up there, and you know I wouldn't be particularlyconcerned. I mean you just got to know going in if you're going to play a decklike Cente scorch like okay. If I hit a bunch of itternitists like it's notgoing to be a good day for me or if I hit a bunch of poison toturnits, is not going to be a good day. For me, but if I hit a lot of you knowLecario mail metal, then I'm Goin to have a great day and just kind ofunderstanding, those matchups and what you would like to see. I don't thinkyeah right now that there's a ton. I don't think right now, por inparticular that there's a ton of ways that we can teck our decks to like beatthe other decks like. I think a lot of the teching right now comes to likewell. Do I want to play for crushing hammer and have like a fifty percentshot of hitting an energy and ATP. You know turn one like that to me feelslike a lot of what teching is right now. So you know if you're worried aboutposin poison osturnit is it might not be something that you can do to yourdeck, but what deck you choose yeah agreed. That's a got shiny, swadlyand,asking what pokemom would you like to see? Get the amazing rare treatment? That's a good question! I he do youhave anything in mind. In particular, I mean I'd like to see you know morepseudo legendary stage. Tos things like my favorite Pokemon Dragonnites Kingdra,I'm sure would be a really cool amazing rear. I mean even something like t theproblem. If they do end up doing state shoes, they'll probably do somethinglike garchomp seems to be a very favorite stage to pokemon yeah but yeah, and you any of thosekinds of pseudo legenders. I don't like to haveamazing rars all been legenary so far. Is there any nonledge naries I'm trying to think I don't. I don'tbelieve so, but let's see I'm just struggling tothink about all the ones from from vivid voltage,but I don't believe so. I think they've all bet legends. So I, if I try torestrict my answer to legends because there's all sorts of pokemont that Ithink would be cool, I I would love to see, is thereeenAsernius Yeh. I think tit's arony. This would look amazing hm yeah. No, theyjust have evoltal it's kind of weird they're kind of like Cherry pickinglike from they're, not picking like a yeah they're, picking like on egonsTheyre, picking like one from every Doo Yeah Ei, see that so we have a question from Horshe heresoys. Would you guys like to see an ultra ball or something similar toultraball be printed or do you think it would be too broken in this Mattar? Itsays I feel like adding more search, might add some diversity to the Metaand allow you to play some text. What do you think about that? One riny, Idon't think they're going to make a reprint ofn ultra ball in the immediatefuture. I think they've kind of made that clear with the kinds of cardtheoferen thing that they don't want ultra ball again, which is fair. I think Ulsraball is anincredibly powerful card and I think we underestimated how powerful it wasuntil it was gone. I would like to see some extra searchcards. I think the options for more generically searching your deck arekind of weak right now, and I guess that would happen to manifest and, likemore nature, type specific support. I think there should be options fordecks. That aren't just gratefall is what I'm saying, because I think yeah Ithink com is just I don't like calm, yeah and greatball. It just is feel sobad, so yeah yeah absolutely got another question from twenty wile.Do you think we'll ever get a MOUTUBE MEU TAG team ask Card For v? Pokamon Imean you have to imagine. There will be some equivalent of like the mewarchetype in this block. I think they've done it in pretty much. Everysingle cardblock they've had like a copy cap, yew of some sort, at least since, like Pokomon, took overfrom wizards yeah yeah. It's definitely a it's definitely an archetype thatthey or a style that they try to emulate every time that they can getthe chance- and I mean those kinds of things- are very good for the skill ofthe game. You know you look at being able to play all these differentattackers and kind of change it up.

Like Mouto, you know again the the factthat we can play Mesu and Megx in three very distinct I mean, maybe even forvery distinct flavors is, is so cool and so good for, like thehealth and playability of a card, yeah absolutely yeah, I think for sure they'll,probably print something tvd. What that's something is, and it might not be a mew card likethey did mar sadow for the gxs sure Yeph, so that was kind of cool one last question here and that iswhat's the deck you're looking forward to building most from vivid vaultagefor Mass Dave, W thoughts from vivid voltage, I mean I'm lookingforward. I really like just colossal as an idea, but what I love is taking adeck and like perfecting it. So that's what I really enjoy about deck building.I like making something new to be sure and I've done that a lot in the past,but I really like honing a deck and I think colossal is that deck. That isjust it's very obvious. What Pogamon is trying to do and like it should be very. It should be a generally easy thing tolike put together, but then to figure out and perfect. I think will be verydifficult and I want to be. You know right there doing that and being kindof that that first voice for that arkantise yeah. I I kind of agree that colossal seemslike an obvious pick there. One thing I really want to experimentwith, and I don't know if this is really the true answer to your questionMasday, but I'm really excited to get in the lab with Orbeedlegx and t liketry and freak that car. That card seems so fun to play with yeah, and I want to see like, what'sthe what's the best way to mess of it. Yeah Yeah I'm going to be particularlyinterested in the expanded events, because you know now that we've banneda couple of them most problematic cards. It should open up the expanded formatand that orbetel should be a great card for expanded to to mess around with forsure yeah. So super excited for vividvoltage and, of course, for the Players Cup. If you're playing in the PlayersCup this weekend be sure to, let us know how you do. You can tweetof, thusat Tagt pokemon at smouse et Ryles, Anda, real John Walter, and what youwant to hear how you do if again, if you're wondering we'rereally enjoying the car O Maetalan peake around right now, so those wouldbe the top choice of the DAG team podcast and with that we will catch younext time, Yuess one other thing: yeah go forit!We if you want to watch these videos and you've, been wondering wherethey've been on my youtube channel. We've created a second tag: TeamPokemon Youtube Channel, so that is where all of these vods are going to goevery single week. So if you like listening, I mean obviously, if you'relistening to this, then you're not watching it. But if you're wonderingyou know, if you want to watch it on the Youtube, we've made a secondaryyoutube channel for that awesome, ankually Avo. So we sure to check thatout for updates every week leave a rate in review and we will catch you next:Tine Peace, so yeah.

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