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Season 3, Episode 39 · 4 months ago

3-39. Chilling Takes

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys dive into Chilling Reign ahead of a prerelease weekend! Come and join in the fun and excitement of a new set on the horizon!

O, what is up guys walking back to tagteam, the footmen trading card games, premier podcast, ing too my name isRiley Hulbert joined, as always by my fantastic friend M J, W cree wall. Whas it going today it's going pretty well Riley. How are you I don't know?Why did I say it like that? I think I was. I was like mid change of what I was saying or so what I want yesay. I hate that, like it's, I as like it, it was good, but it was like itwasn't really that, like I'm, not feeling too great right now, like Idon't know it's, it's definitely not a high point. You know my life. I knownot that not that there's not a lack of excitement, but I don't know I'm justfeeling like in a little funk. You know I feel yeah yeah, it's kind of like oneof those moments for year, O to say, like you know, how's it going or youswitch it up to like like has a hanging or something or something. Yes. What? Yes, somethinglike that- maybe it's just the maybe it's just the the dobeen kind of getting out of my system from theweekend, yeah until the note on figure weekend yeah well, I was over hangingout with Andrew Mahone and some other local Ohio, friends andyeah. We just had like a little cook out grilled Tung out did the did the things that we playedsome lawn sports and drew almost the Hammy who won the two, the two andtouch football team Bata I ma yeats, email fa we well.We had the the Star Wide Receiver Andrew goout with a with a strained. Mussle thought he was going to pull a Hammy,so that was that was a crushing blow to our chances. But you know we well I'mproud of our guys. You know they really worked hard and they they left it allon the field and we only lost by one touchdown. So I'd say all in all great effort. You Love You love to lose of greateffort. That's right! That's right! We played some Spike Ball, all right, allright of which of which I went undefeated. If you guys ever want toplay spike ball, we like ever have a nationals or world again o'll want toplay spike ball. I'm there man! I love that game. If we ever have a nationalsagain yeah, if we ever do you're all invitedto my place, my new house, which, if you'relistening on Thursday after eleven, I am eastern time I will have purchased, and so you can, you can come over andwe can. We can spike ball in the back yard. there. You Go, what kind of yardyou rocking with the house? Oh I mean it's a it's a nice yard. I mean it'slike sizable and it's flat,...

...which is really important. You know youcan have in there you got a little deck. You know you got a little grill. I think that the owners are leaving usand then the back is yeah yeah. I mean it's big enough, certainly for atrampoline, so you know it's a nice one, it's a littlefenced into, so you don't have to worry about like the street or the the neighbors oranything. Although we didn't meet our neighbor the other day, Shane he's verynice Shane Awesome, yes yeah! So what's new in in yourWorld Riley, not a lot. I Abel started back up for work so no like between transit right now, actually staying home from now untilthe end of next week. I have to Tye at a trip last week. So what going onlike it of moving around yeah, my friend is actually on the trip I'mwatching her cats, the light barany like crashing duringthe podcast. That is like the source yeah but yeah. It's gone well definitely alot going on, but it was a it's kind of Nice to start toget back in the normal swing of things. A lot clients and mask mandate was Addison, so I still wore mine out, I'm fullyvaccinated. I still wore my now just I guess at a habit and I went to thegrocery store and like a time he wan't have as on kind of weird to see, but it was cool,yeah yeah, no nature is healing e s yeah. You know not nothing too crazy,but life carries on yeah. That's good stuff man. I I think I don't you know for just myself when Isay you know, can't wait to return to normal life or you know some semblanceof normal life, I'm a little assitant as I think. A lot in our immediate sphere are andkind of such a lax, a dasia approach, but you know, I think, generally it'sgood for people's well beings yeah. I know just to socialize againand you know, there's like a mental inertia. I think for Yeah for a lot offolks real if they're vaccinated- and you know what their local groups are.It's a little tough just to move at space, where you know we spent a wholeyear, basically living or alone, I orantis it's tough to just like a mediate backand yeah, actually at some other folks whoaren't nicest.

So I don't fall to any one for you knowtaking it slow and steady. But I am excited I see like Yep, I hear you, it's gonna be fun. Youcan be fun. Perfect changes we're looking at some fun new stuff, acard game to pre release it for chilling a starting on Friday. No Do you have you? I excited. Are You forchilling rain? I'm stoked man yeah, it's always good. When a new said drops, you know I want to be there on kind ofthe four front of like trying to figure out. You know at the very least likecool little ambos, which of course, there are a lot of, but also kind oftrying to develop the the predominant ways to play the top to your archetype.So I'm really soaked about it. There's a lot of potential. I think this isgoing to be a really good set in terms of introducing a number of archetypesthat maybe aren't particularly powerful but like fit in you know fitin with the Metagami. I don't think that anything is going to kind ofdominate or take over, although it might, but I just don't quite foreseethat, but I see a lot of balance coming. I see a lot of unique and interestingcombos coming and a lot of the V pomon are pretty exciting. Yeah, absolutely achilling rain is gonna I as every and I do think. Well, I don'tthink you could say the same about like vivid voltage, though, like that that's I talked enough aboutvivid wall to the voltage was for, I guess Thevenot Ed doesn't for us theamount of time, the amount of time that it breathes life into changes right solike with vivid boltage, you probably say that it was fresh for a week right,like darkness ablaze as may be fresh for a month, so so we're open that thatchilling rain. You know it's fresh for a year. You know that seems like astretch, but there's certainly a lot of cool things that are coming out yeahregardless. I think there's o life to be found. The artside that are emergingand existing archetype will find some o tools or some new, as an fer around so with Peeles on the horizon, now makesure that I have a local or for I do Kay like local. It's always a lot of fun if youcan do like some sort of virtual peeles. Even I know like that, I recommend you Partie, I it's fun itoften this kind of stuff, yeah and I've...

...seen so pretty cheap prelacies. I saw one that was twenty five. I think, and you got thebuild and battle kit and three packs. So that's I don't know what nine packsor something for twenty five like that seems pretty strong for a Prere, so certainly be on the look at and theywere doing. You know they were shipping to right. So like for an extra two orthree bucks, we can get a chip to your house so like yeah, it's that seemspretty good, be an ill look out for those kinds of deals. Yeah, I kind ofwant to get like a build in battle kid or two. We have a friend over a afterdeck yeah that'd be sweet, but I'm curious like from chillingrange you. What are the things that you're most excited about one, maybeone to three ards that have jumped out at you: You're really excited to get your hands yeah. I I I'm pretty excited to seelike, like my kind of the card that I'm most interested in,is, and maybe that not not for like a like an attacking standpoint, but justas a card in general that I'm just really interested to see how it kind ofslots in if it has a prominent spot index or if it just sees like no play,is the Glarin ARTICA. Obviously the attack is not it's not bad. It's notparticularly something to write home to mom about, but there the reconstitutable y there, the where you discard to you, draw one I think isreally cool, not something that we've seen in a basic before and combos pretty decently, withsomething like cricket une right like I could easily see kind of some draw insin made around Articulo and Cricketin or just having Arti Cuno by itself. Nowthe draw to or discard to draw one is that enough of a drawback for next to not play the ARTICULO. Do you know? Would peoplesay hey? We already have something, maybe arguably a little bit better inthe form of Orange Room. I don't know, but, but sometimes that discardingeffect is really important, so yeah, I'm really interested to see how thatdeck or how that card, I should say, hit, sticks, yeah and I'll be curiousas well, like you know, I think arcanal benefit versus range.If there's, if there's decks that really like to have stuff in theirdishart pot, utur water decks a right, just car pileright, given the ate Depelli elene their melaniesupporter, the seer from the discard pile. You know a nos, the way that youget them there. You know, I think, there's somepotential, the are: Are there any others that have really jumped out ofyou? Well, I mean, besides the obvious right,like you, have no you'll, probably say bliss, so I don't want to seal yourthunder on that guy. But you know...

...besides the besides the obviouscalories like I'm looking at and Zero Ora to I mean I think that one'sanother pretty obvious one. A hundred and sixty snipe is pretty ridiculous,but the the Celeb v Max, I think, has some serious it's at least drawing someserious interest from me, because there's so much you can do with it. Sothe attack does a hundred and thirty. For two energy. It's got an ability to.Let you heal twenty damage, each your grass poke on so there's some kind of,like you know, potential there with just being able toheal a ton of damage from your celebes if you're not taking weakness, weakness,damage to the fire and you get to search up to to poke onfrom your deck. So the idea there would just be you play it with maybe a bunchof support Pogamm, like maybe you're playing it with, but Il Plume gx thatalso heals, maybe you're playing it with. You know: Vilem gx and the otherVipe that does status conditions on a flip that could be kind of cool, maybeyou're playing it with other. I don't know stage twos, you know somethinglike dusk nor, for instance, just to disrupt your opponent a little bit. Idon't know: There's there's a few different ways I feel like the card cango and just that searching cards everysingle turn. Certainly you can find some kind of combination of of pokmanty t you couldput into your deck that that supplement the Selby idea that give you a littlebit of boost against your opponent, yeah the healing forest, the build becool, YEP or Saner. Obviously, on my end, I do like theblot I actually talked a lot about the busy we did so to go. I recommendlistening to that. If you want to hear US rant about how much we enjoy blisseanother card that I want to shout out here- and this iskind of another obvious e, but a path to the peak I think, is Okard and I can just see there being somereally crazy combos coming out with this card a now I could see like ex forexamp abusing card and buying some ticky strategies, and I just generally I like having aform of disruption. I will say this: Post chaotics, all rotating. It seems alittle powerful in because we're going to lose cattle and more shadow, so I'mhoping that we make more powerful state kind of like on or act that almost butnever less. Is it still super and also I do want to shout out. I like fogcrystal a lot. I think that's a really hard yeah can I love cards that havelike versatile fact. Obviously, the Nepal- and I think that was also areally really good card, so yeah, of course, of course, yeah. The psychicarty are reallygetting that boost,...

...which is nice, and it's also reallynice, and I just want to point out that you know if you look at potentially theshifting kind of rock paper scissors of the format. It's not quite so rockpaper scissors with the new cards right because you got the you know: Art Cuno,the cally ricks psychic reek to dark right. So you know that archetype kindof falling to eternities. But you know you also have the Zato coming out,which could potentially attack for one energy and really kind of put that hurton the Attornie. So, like our rock paper, scissors format is shifting alittle bit, but maybe not in you know it's not shifting in a waylike we're getting psychic all this potential. But it's not just that. Okay,I had to play a mirror deck to be able to beat psychic like it. Maybe itwasn't the fat past right like I had to play another Muto deck or another met?U Mu Deck or another Muto ex deck. In order to beat those me two decksbecause you know psychic just is a week to psychic. Now we have finally alittle bit more balance in terms of what we're seeing with weaknesses,which I think is going to be really refreshing. They finally refined kindof this triangle of weakness, or, I guess rock paper scissors, Lizard, Spak,etc, etc to to make it so that you know, there's not one unkind of hard counterto these decks. So I like that, a lot. What I will say, though, is cards likethe CALERAS fors fighting resistance. Then it parts like Arseo, brutal, yeah yeah. It's definitely brutal. Imean you think about things that that they could tech in their decks. I mean:Will you still have weakness card energy which not a great choice? You know considering that you you know.The first attack is for that fighting energy on the rabbit, striker Shpout,still an option, certainly not the worst card that you could play in thedeck, but yeah, like you said. Certainly that's gonna be kind of frustrating atfirst plus we have the golden slack on can't wait to roll up and my firstreal life event and Sidi Player starts their goal. Sola Yeah, I hear you yeah. I just got acouple of products in the mail from pokmanty. Igot my booster box and and trainer kit or or the the elite trainer box. So I'm going tobe open in those over the weekend. Sometimes so I'm really looking forwardto that too. Yeah T be a lot of fun. I just want. I want one of thealternate birds. I want the Galerian Artic UN O v Alternate. That's that'smy life. If the that happens, everything else is cool. You know...

...it's got the weird. It's kind of likeswooping backwards and he's got the little rat or the bravery basic. What'sthat one roughly ruffled I was trying to, I waslike Rale: that's not correct, yeah right! That sounds about right.It's got the little rough, let in the side it looks very cool. In my humble opinion, after one well see the older I get the more Icare about that, like I'm now, starting to realize, like oh it'd, be it'd, beawesome to have a fully raved out or fully gold deck, which is just neversomething I at like the Ram or I'm not a huge can of ribs now. But I do likethe alternative. The foil pattern on alternate arts arenight yeah. I thought the rebs were always more beautiful when they werethe sheer or like the straight reverse. For me. I like that more because I e like res a lot. I just kindof you you playing Bro, but do you thinkthis is it yeah Ol arts are cool, all tarts are famlyyeah. Definitely definitely they well. We've said a lot, but they've reallystepped it up in terms of the Dar work I feel like like. There are a lot morecards are, and they cards have always kind of told these stories. But it'slike more intricate stories. I don't know more interesting stories. Maybe Idon't know what it is, but you like there's definitely like a noticeablequality in Er. Maybe they're just experimenting more, maybe that's itlike. I just noticed that these cards are a lot more unique tiles to them forthe all Tarts, I think they're using the altars yeah, I kind of like really experiment but like they're,giving more freedom to the hardest kind of give their own Pepeta ion of so I do want to talk more about now.Where we expect is to go with chilling, ran architects, you might update orarchetypes that you want to explore from chilling rain and how you mightbuild those preliminarily, or that, though, that fateful time today, let's hear it Riley you were. You weretelling me before the cast. You didn't think that I was going toget your card of the day based on thePOKADETI. I don't think you will and in fact I willing put a hundred dollarsdown so what you're willing to do like if Iget it you'll pay me a hundred dollars. What happens if I don't get it? Okay,Great. That sounds like a steel and also like. I just just want to saythere. You know you're, saying: okay, there's nine hundred something pokono.We could probably whittle that down by...

...like three hundred right because, likeyou know, if you say something about water or something they clearly know,it's not going to be any fire. But you know what I mean: it's like, there'ssome pretty obvious ones out there. So all right, let's her! Okay, IT'SPOWERFUL MUSCLES! Allow it to move out of speed that belies its Bo. That feels like there should be asecond sentence. Powerful muscles belies it's bull, speed that L at a speed that belies its bulk. I mean the Geez. That's a tough onebecause, like the obvious is going to be like a champ right like you just belike Oh yeah, what you muscles you know, the muscle spoke mon boom, a chant,it's probably a little trickier than that, because I don't know that I would necessarilyconsider my champ bulky. Okay, I would say: Is it Hariana, hoves ly? That's a good guess, but nothank it's! It's allegator! Oh Man! That's what that entry. Likedoes not invoke for Alice to me. No, it does not that's talk about trick, thusman. So that's who, as day today, is the ADHwonder it is Arora legator. So back in the day when they made dark,pokamal, dark or alligator was one of the very first and it's got a reallycool ability called us. Car is a great name, and so as long as darkfor alligators active, your panes baby pokemoke their baby powers and theycan't tack and they can't have abilities working. It's a it's pretty cool, so it's the cleferelicit to seeler and it does fifty damage proof for three energy anddiscard some energy. If you attack with it so basically like a lock down deck,you play it with dark vile plume. That kind of get the I l plume from ancient origins, ItemLock and then you lock their babies and all of the sudden, like all the set upof the NEO dex, is kind of shut down, and the reason that I thought of darkfor Al This- We actually is I kind of wanted to do entry on likeBaby Hook, em on card in honor of Tube that you all played this weekend andthen I realized I'd be way more fun to talk about Something Ethon: U Y so FRA Gator scares the babies foralligators. Definitely definitely that...

...boy that definitely that boyimpressively love of hip points, though, for a stage to crazy. I mean it'samazing that that they were ever printed. I guess it kind of makes sensecanonically right, because the the dark like Pokan are like technically may bestronger, but they have less P is in that kind of how they they are reallyare in into dark pokamal. But I think that's the idea. Yeah, like here's,sacrificing your health or power right, yeah, T H, th, P, insane stuff, Ol great card ofthe day, Raley. Let's say: Let's continue down that so Arada for alligator at's time to talkabout cards. No chilling rain luck about a bunch of cars that interest that it is the first art I look in tobuild with killing me. I can I eat existing one or a new one, sure yeah,and I would this is not the yeah yeah. This is not going to come as anysurprise to anyone, but I really like that:Chater Rider, cally, rex vex, you know you're going to do more damage based onthe amount of energy that are in play and you get to attach energy and drawcards. I don't think the ability is particularly good. It should helpcertainly right in terms of drawing cars in terms of attaching energy, butbut you you're, really looking at that kind of attack doing a bunch of damagefor a bunch of energy on the field. Like that's, really cool, I think you know the very obvious wayto play. That would be to just go. You know four, four, you have a bunch ofsupport. You may be throw in like three to four Crocella, and maybe you haveyou know some Zig Argus you're doing some ping damage. You know build it. Alot like something like sent to scorch right,where you have all these things, then, and then it's maybe even a little bitbetter than set to Scorch in the fact that you can just accelerate energyonto yourself and draw so you know, there's that so probablysomething like that, that would be where I would initially go. You know,maybe you have some drage's in there as well. You know whatever, but theremight be some ways you can go with that that are a little outside of the box,and one of the ways that I was thinking of for the shadow rider callere is tokind of play into the High H, P and lack of dark type attackers potentiallyright we're thinking about the Galerian at those coming out that that might notguaranteed but might make a ternates less of of a player choice, and sothere's not going to be a ton that can one shot the caloric in one hit. So youcould play it with something like Genga. There's a Gangarid Sword Shield thatallows you to move damage counters from...

...one psychic pog man to another psychicpok on, so you can potentially get out of Ganga and move all damage from youractive cally rex to a bench. cally rex, you know you can make funky plays whereyou could knock out pokmanty and then reset stamp. Your opponent or somethinglike that. You know there are some things that you can do with Ganga, justlike you could have done in the past with UNICIS. You remember that cardrily, and so that's one way that I would think outof the box. You know darkest down. So what's really one shouting you rightnow, you know maybe like blisset, you know maybe well Selon, like maybebill sepo, I don't know, sent scorch. I guess not really a ton right, so youcan lean into that health. You can lean into that good weakness and maybe get aganger up and going and be able to win kind of the mirror matches or othertight matches where healing would really be beneficial yeah. Those are some cool ideas. I dolike the idea of like or are all kind of, Oh yeah yeah. You could do somesherill's that'd be sweet too pretty cool. For my perspective, one thing I don'treally and it makes me want to build it's seen a lot of like Japaneseresults with Ice Peter cally rags like I, don't totally understand how it'sgood enough. So I kind of want to like experimentwith that and, like maybe I'm just completely a powerful like the nextland yeah all the right. I have a lot of it's kind, O rack. The one thing I'm reallyreally looking forward to building now is dark box, the GALERIAN maltres. Ifyou watch the champions you in Japan, you saw credible game where a dark box playergets. I think it turn to read a what is it called Dark Moon Gx,the full effet fun then turn three. They get the the Taranis for three more prizes andit was just intand. I love that kind of stuff. I love dark, boxy ex I I alwayshave yeah, I'm just so excited to slam down a glary, multos player, red andblue a yeah and get some crazy stuff going. That sounds so fun to me. YeahYeah! That's that's pretty epic yeah! I didn't see that game, but I do remember you. I think you talking about it to. Idid on the cast as well a yeah yeah exactly it was such a good game. It was soentertaining yeah nobody. I don't think his opponent had any idea what wascoming in.

Well, it's I mean it's pretty cool. Wealready have a ton of decks right now like there are just you know, I wouldsay upwards of fifteen to maybe twenty o twenty might be a littlehigh, but this somewhere around there fifteen just the amount of decks that anyonecould play and like reasonably expect to do. Well, so we're going to add in ahandful more archetypes from this set, no doubt which is very, very cool, very exciting and veryinteresting to say the least, yeah so fun. So I'm really looking forward tosome of these cards, especially a mulches other water stuff. That'scoming out. Unfortunately, I M mad party ears across the world are hearing the spear tomb that if you havea bad, a party match up your time is so: Yes, yes, which d be a good one. That's four Tomis like so laser focused and its purpose. It's actually insane yeah, that's pretty much no use hardy yeah. I would almost argue that,like the the orico is better in a lot of matches,because you don't want to shuffle, in the bunk sure sure only against the night, arches andparties actually pull him back. So that's kind of funny, but I think we're going to play. Are there any other like cool new ideasthat you got Bruin right now I mean the you know the what's that Atpat the horn yeah yeah, Imean. Certainly that will be something that just kind of is there and we'llhave to deal with and probably makes that archetype justsignificantly better, because now not only is your hand not safe with themall, while your discard bile is neither so you know that for sure is going to besomething that'll affect things, but I also think, like man, I am reallylooking forward to seeing how some of these single striking ram strikepokamal incorporate themselves in the deck, particularly that Zero Aura. Imean, I think that attack is just insane. It can chain really well yeah,just doing a hundred and sixty you know, you're doing a hundred damage theactive and then you're doing a hundred and sixty the bench. A hundred a Dsixty of the bench is enough to you know obviously two shot most things outthere, so you know I certainly would look at thatcard and say: Well, you know you would think of that. archetype becomes big,like maybe fan of waves or hammers, or you know on the rise or something I'minterested to see how people play that deck and what they play it with now,you could do something like electrode:...

Electro can knock itself out andaccelerate a couple of energy from the deck on to an electric Pokono. Maybethat's something: Maybe you're just using Bolton to accelerate a muchenergy but, however you're doing it. That seemslike a like a very cool just card. I really interested to see how peoplebreak that one there's a lot of danger for someone that live on the bench. Yes in recent ght. Yes, yes, well, I think spread.archetypes are generally, you know well liked and bring more strategy to the game. Iwould say right if you're, if you're not swinging at things, for one shotsfor you're doing that kind of you now spread damage and you're,putting your opponent in potential positions to be knocked out,but they still have the opportunity to heal themselves. I think that's prettyhealthy. You know, I think, that's that's generally going to lead to you know a healthier format, so I like that man I, like that a lot yeah. I was mostly a kind of likeleaning into Oh yeah Mus, going to be a Er yeah sure you know, people arealready playing so much be it that that's rapid strike being the mainright and you have you have ice rider, which basically thing coming so true. I see im a God pour one out for the dudeney any other.Like initial impressions. I have on now I'm stoke to get these cards on myhand, man, it's of the a o M. I know I know pick upcard put card down excited to do that with this new set awesome. Well, I think that's a it's apretty good look into what our thoughts are. Let's hit with chilling rain, makesure to support your stores and as really it's doing something like that, I thinkthey're always really right out and let us know on to media you'reexcited for for chilling and what you're going to be playingwhen the set drops were curious to know yeah. We are for sure you can find uson twitter at TA team pokmanty for the cast at Real John Walter. That is myown personal twitter. I drop bangers weekly. We D had smiles with riles keydrop, bangers, Bi weekly. Would you say so? I drop aBanger Banger a week. Okay, so there you go, you got you follow USguaranteed two bangers a week and then we're also on twitch. If you want tolisten to the cast, live twitch, not TV...

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