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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast
Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 16 · 10 months ago

3-16. A Chip off the Old Block

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are joined by a friend- Trainer Chip Richey! Come hear about commentating, his backstory, and what's up with Battle Styles.

Be sure to check out Chip on social media! @trainerchip

What is up, everybody welcome back totag team, the POKEMON trading card games for mere podcasting duo, I'm ryly,holvert Jointd, as always for my good friend, JW Creewall, and today we areactually a tag. Team trio joined by the Arsius to our DIAGA and PALKIA trainerchip Richie guys hasn't go to there we're going to go with the igly buff tothe the jigly puffing Cui. That was actually something I was like heavilydebating when I was getting dinner today is which one I should go with,but I wasn't sure which Pokemon for the babies ouw o sign to each person. I seeit's really. Definitely, whereas, like the ARSIS, is like a h, easy choice forthe guest iappreciate it well. Thank you guys forhaving me on. I enjoy alls podcast a lot and so yeah. Thank you. So much forasking me love getting to do stuff like this ao great to Hav, yeur yeah. We'resuper excited to have you as well. What's been going on, man, how you beendoing, I've been good, we obviously justwrapped up stuff with players, Kep two, which I had the opportunity to cast, which I love getting to do great to work with all those guys, andthen you know I love every opportunity I get to cast and yeah. It saw somegood games. Actually, some, like I mean we a lot of people. I think the formatgets kind of a bad rap in the formats, definitely not in the best placecompared to past standard formats, but even all that considered, I think wedid see some like really fun and exciting, and some like prettyhighlevel play games. Yeah, remember like we GT O game specifically thatsticks out to me is jer. Sorry zaklasage versus Diego Kasiraga, whichare two like great players, obviously and yeah t that game specifically was justreally really good. I remember distinctly. There was, I don't know ifyou weren't casting this games, so don't know if you watched it, it was Zaassage versus the Bavil Seffeon and Zach was in like a horrible position,but he built up this really interesting game plan where Ho almost managed tocome back like six to one versus baby blounds, it was insane yeah yeah. I didn't watch that game, butthat's kind of the similar situation to the Diego Game. Where Diego had like areally it was one of those games where he never altered. Creation, GX TACcould take him five prizes, things just looked really bad and then diego dropshis Mawile Gx see that Zach has like three supporters. In one other cardinhand, he goes metal saucer attach big eater gx. It was just e caught jerbyandme both completely offguard, because who the heck has ever used a big eater.No seriously, that's great Itas yea still ended up losing that game, but itput him in a position where he, like feasibly, could have made the six toone come back and that's Al only cool yeah. So I would like to dig Mor intothat. Would you say that was your favorite moment from the Players Cupthat you had a chance to cast or was there some other great highlights thatcame out of it te? No, definitely that I mean it'sjust stuff like that specifically like. I think those are the type of thingsthat separate. You know good players from like amazing top to your players,which DGO obviously is like seeing like it's very easy to like have practicedwith your adpdeck and say like okay, I'm going to do this. Do this altercreation, boss, boss game all that, but then, whenever thingsdon't go according to plan, it's like the incredible players that can stillfind positions to like, even though Diegos didn't actually win that game.He like gave himself the best. You know chance like he's playing to that likepoint one percent that he'd actually be able to come back, so I always thinkthat those type of things are always my favorite moments. Yeah, THAT'S OSURE!That's awesome! So you, you know, obviously have beendoing casting for how many years now so officially for Pokemon. My firstevent I casted was in January, which was okay, either Dallas or Colinsville.I don't remember which one honestly the...

...first three months of this year, justkind of a blur. It's like a time that didn't really happen. It feels like it's like what happened in January andFebruary, but I got to cast those two events and those are the first oneswith Pok one but I've Yon e pasting, the grass rout stuff with like criticalhints right, mainly critical hit but like with other, you know, castinggroups as well O for two years or so, probably since, like twenty, theThousandan eighteen season, like the end of that, I started doing that, buteven before that I was like recording, like my local league cupsand League challenges and putting them on my youtube channel so, and thatprobably would have been in like the twend ynd seventeen season, so suretymuch for about almost as long as I've been playing the game. That's somethingthat really intereste me was casting yeah sure what what are some thingsthat you've learned over the last you know three or so years that you've beencasting. I mean I'm always eever after everysingle event. I like will watch some of my games that I cast it and like beable to pick out like so many things that I feel like. I like said that justsounded stupid are like something that always sticks out to me that I feellike when we're talking and recording I'm like never saying Um but like everysoo eah still like well, wear myself say a little M and it just sounds sobad and I hate it and it's like realistically, it's not that big of adeal because, like especially like compared to like sports casting likethis, is a much more like games. Casting is supposed to feel like alittle bit more laid back of an experience and especially, I think withlike these online events, making it feel kind of, like you know, you're youand your coacast are just kind of hanging out with the audience watchingthis game playout. So it's like not that big of a deal butlike I think not to like overly nitpick but also just like still always belooking to improve and stuff like that, so yeah, that's! The biggest thing isjust like always looking for ways to like make myself better. No, I know forsure I know sometimes I'll listen back to the podcast and I'll, hear myselfsay M and I'm like Jeez Hatamid or having the same kind of Intro to whatyou're talking about you know like, and here they're going to do, or you know,and here I find myself doing those kind of same sentence structures to try toget back into absolutely absolutely yeah. I totaly what Yo talking about so you know you. You started off as moreof a player, contecrator kind of progressively filled that commentatedrole and now officially accommentater for Fokamon Imean commentating, thegrand finals of Players Cup to that's insanely cool, like that's, reallyawesome. So what did that both path? Look like for you! If there's anyonelistening right now, who's interested in potentially building themselves upto commentating? What would your recommendations be to them all thatpast yeah? So I get asked about how to get into casting a lot, because I mean, I think it's a reallycool thing and a lot of people do genuinely have like it. Like. I don'tknow it's just a cool experience to get to like look at the game from behindthe desk and but like, I think, the best way to getstarted, and it's a little hard right now since there's. Obviously not eventsis too do. What I did is like just record your League Challenges RecordYour League cups and then even if you're commentating by yourself just dopost commentary over them and let bul them to youtube and then any time an opportunitypresents itself like the way that I got the first time I castit a regionals waswith critical hit. It was Toronto in the spring of two thousand and eighteen,I'm pretty sure, Yep and they posted in verbank that theywere looking for casters and I they had like a little google form to fill outlike if you were interested, and so I filled out the form and I had theyasked for like rep like examples of your casting, and I had allof these league challenges and stuff that I had recorded and put it on myyoutube channel. If I hadn't been doing...

...that, they would have had nothing to gooff of t to choose me based off of so. I think just doing literally anythingyou can in even like right now like you might not be able to record a leaguechallenge, but you know ask to record games of a friend of yours playing in atournament or something like that, and you know, because there's all theseonline events and stuff happening almost every night of the week. Itseems like there's plenty of opportunities to find that kind ofstuff. I think and then just making yourself available.Whenever the opportunity presents itself, you know casting the grassroots stuffwas not glamorous. It's like I'm paying my way to get there pretty much. I getto selp inm a couch of an ARBNB, maybe the to gives us some food to like inlike Mak osterbox. At the end of the day it's like, and sometimes we don'tget all that stuff. It depends on the to a lot of the time depends on t thecasting group I'm working with. So you know, I said Yes to a lot ofopportunities where you know on the weekend. I didn't make any money Thn,but that eventually leads to a point where you know- and I actually I remembertalking to Jeremy Jellen at worlds in tenty, eighteen yeah, it was world's twothousand and eighteen I told him that I was really interested in casting and ifI wanted to, you know, cast eventually with Pokemonlike what I would need to do like what that path could look like, and he toldme just cast every opportunity you can and if you're good you'll get noticeand that's what I did. I just casted every single opportunity I could. Ifthere was a weekend that I wasn't doing anything and there was a cheap enoughflight and I could get out there, I would go do it and then I guess my name got thrown in the hatthe end they invited me on so yeah leddowns. Pretty Great Awesome Story. I distinctly remember. Actually youtelling me that that Aneccete, I think it was maybe ily regional, two thousandand eighteen about trying to just cast as much as you can. Do you rememberthat conversation at all? I remember you, ca really don't know yeah, becausewe, the reason ti bring it up, is because we had talked a lot about over the years we had talked about. YouKnow How do you prioritize like assing versus playing, because that wassomething you enjoyed both of those things. So how did you ultimately cometo your prioritization at the two different things, Ui just kind ofthought about what I enjoyed more. I enjoyed both a lot like.Obviously, if I didn't enjoy playing POKEMON, I wouldn't do it at all, but, like I wouldn't be involved withcasting or anything but like you know, I enjoyed playing, and you know part ofme does really miss out. If I'm casting at aregional championships, it's likeOh man, I could have played been playing this same deck that this groupof Friends of mine is playing. Maybe I could have been making day to. Maybe Iwould be on stage for top eight, but you know at the end of the day, I think you know, I think good commentary islike a really important path to like growth of a gameand like enjoyable like live stream, devents and stuff. Like that, andthat's hat the end of the day. What I really care about is like, I reallyenjoy playing pookmont TCG. I wish ihad started playing forever ago before,like I actually started playing, and I want a lot of people who you know,watch events to get involved, an start playing and download PTCGO and learnabout the game, and so I thought that you know that's part of why you knowmake Youtube and twitch content, and you know so I think, naturally castingkind of leaned into that as well, but it as far as balancing the two I kindof did have to make a sacrifice, and I didn't get my world's invite for thetwenty nineteen world championships, because I was mostly focused on casting now I didstill, I will admit, try to qualify. I still played in like three regionalchampionships and things didn't quite go my way, but its one of those things where it'slike. Maybe if ihad been playing a little more, I wouldn't have felt asrusty going in like if I term previous anements stuff, like that. So I feellike if I had not casted a lot of the events Idid that year, I probably still would...

...have gotten my. I ended up like sixtypoint short or something like that. So that's just a you know a a day, toit aRegionas, pretty much, but you know I mean that's ha sacrifice.So I was, I knew going into the year that I was much less likely to qualifyfor worlds and if I didn't that would be fine that I would at least havetried my hardest to get my name out there and I'm not going ta like it wasa little discouraging at two thousand and nineteen worlds watching all myfriends play. I still went to the event. I still hung out with all my friendsand stuff and at that point still had heard nothing about thePetiyeah a I was just goingto ask. That seems like something where you knowyou're putting all this time, you're putting all this money into it, and youdon't really know that it's going to pay off at the end. So what kind ofkept you motivated? I mean was it that that gold of casting for Pokemon arelike there had to have been some little victories along the way that just kindof kept you casting and wanting to you know, spend this money yeah. No, I meanI still really enjoyed it at the end of the day like and, and it also helps alot whenever, like after events and stuff, I see a lot of people like o k,O telling me they enjoyed watching the games enjoyed the games. I casted andstuff like that, and I mean I just and like at the endof the day too, like as still as far as casting events like you know, usuallystill would get paid in like a couple booster boxes and stuff like that, andif I drove to the regionals like technically end up plusing or likebreaking even on the weekend and stuff like that, which is like, I think, abig thing that a lot of people think about when it comes to like travelingto pok them on events is like the cost involved with it, but it just you know it wasn't reallythat big of a deal about that. It's just you know the time I spent with myfriends as well at events and it's so much less stress being at a pokem onevent, if you're not playing you justget kind of true behind thecurtains as well. Like you hear all your you get to hear all your friendscome up to you after the round give you their bad beats of, why they just lostor whatever, and you also get to see like standing back watching some of thevrogue decks navigate their way through the tournament. Don't know, there's alot of upsites to it, and so I just kept kept pushing on and eventually gotthe call sure sure I don't want to keep youprisoner to talking about casting forever. But I do have another questionand I want to know what, in your opinion, is the most unsung hero of theworld of casting what is the UNMOST underappreciated like trait or valuethat you think there is in the casting rom underappreciated trait? Well, Imean, I think, generally there's kind of two rolls when it comes to castingyou have whenever you have a duo. At least you know someone who does kind of likethe playby play side of things where you're like talking through thespecific actions, and then you are able to toss it off to your cocaster who'skind of the more analytical side and saying you know this is why they'redoing that- and this is what they're trying to set up. So I think you knowbeing really good at trying to leave plenty of room for your cocasterto still have analysis. I find myself kind of falling into that trap, a lotwhere I see the play, but I know my coacasterseas it too, but, like I get too excited- and I really want to talkabout it so just making sure that you're always like leaving a bit ofroom. You know, even you don't have to mention literally everything that yousee in a play and stuff like that. So I think that's a good thing to that.Personally, I need to work on as well still but sure so you brought up your youtube, yourtick tack, other content, creation avenues that you have talk to us alittle bit about those and kind of again why you started and kind of thestate of those right now for you yeah sure. So I started so I actually I've made youtubevideos forever ago, like before I even started playing pokemon. I used to I'vetalked about this a few times like on my stream and stuff, but I used tocollect retro video games, and so I had a youtube channel before I had achannel about pokmon about that. where, like it was a thing where you wouldlike go to like flea markets and yard salesand thrift stores and look for old gamesand like it's like pick up, videos and...

...stuff like that, so I had a channelfrom that and then, when I kind of like got out of that hobby and into Pokemon,I just kind of naturally you know transitioned into that of you know, wanted to make videos ofopening packs and stuff, because that's how I initially got into pick em on towas just opening packs. I didn't even play. I was just like kind ofrediscovering pokemon cards and was really into buying infolecting cards and then, as I got, into playing kindof transitioned into making deck profiles and stuff like that which, atthe time theyre really wasn't that many people doing it, itwas basically o just queaky and Hablmon. I think- and I don't want to leaveanyone out, but I'm I don't really at that point- think there was too manyother people really doing it. It was before Andrew started. Making videoswas before as well started, making videos before JW started, making videos so yeah and I just kind of gotten into it.There and I've definitely been pretty inconsistent over the years at likehaving being like a youtuber right like having a consistent, uplood scheduleand all that stuff. I kind of just have uploaded whenever there's likesomething I've gone through spurts, where I've like uploated every singleday for like a month or something like that, but it's really easy to get burntout on that. So usually nowadays, I just kind of like when I'm there'ssomething I'm really enjoying playing I'll, make a video on it and stuff likethat, and then yeah stream on twitch as well and, like you mentioned as well,jw just started making tick tolks as well, which is kind of like a kind oflike the zoomer social media, these days or whatever. But it's fun I mean Tick Tocksa. I thinkit's a really cool way for people to grow. I think it'slike we were talking about this. A little bet before we started recordingbut like I think, the easiest way to get discovered and growas a content. Creator right now is on Tick Tock, which is yeah. I A trying sohead no go ahead. Go ahead.I was just gonna say I think, if you're trying to make content anywhere like ifyou're trying to be a Youtuber, if you're trying to be a twitch streamer,you should make content on tick tolk to because it doesn't really take thatlong. It honestly does not take the most effort and it's actually and youget pretty good gratification back whenever you see like yeah, it's PrettyInsan EA, pretty intant, exactly like. I spent an hour making this at the mostthirty minutes. Maybe- and you know it's got like ten hosand views in sixhours or something like that which is like don get feeling. Well, it's prettyamazing. I have to say your your fora and te tick. Tak has been prettyinteresting because you know you don't post too much, but it seems likeeverything that you do post is pretty much a hit. You know you have a videothat is your most popular one, Na million views yeah, which is ridiculous.I mean that is great. I think your a track record for kind of just hittingit right off the bat was was right on you just got the algorithm correctlfrom the jump. Yeah, that's the big thing. I mean honestly about all these,like social medias, it's just like finding the Algorithm and trying tofigure out things that work yeah. I posted almost every single day for thefirst month of Tick Tock, but then I haven't made a video in like two weeksor something like that. Just haven't! Really, I don't know just haven't done anything.I meani Noyeah, it's kind of hard to find some inspiration. Sometimes youknow, because I was noticing some of your Ticktox, its kind of Nice on ticktock, to have themes right, because in that way you can kind of build thesemultipart series. And so you add your. You know band card kind of series andthat's that's really nice. But then, when that inspiration kind of runs dry,you know you reach the end of so many bandtirds right, yeah right exactly andthen you got ta start over so yeah for sure, really cool. So across all of your differentplatforms. Is there a piece of content that you've made that you'reparticularly proud of, like Youre, your shining jam amongst all of your content,yeah? So...

...two youtube videos kind of stick out tome that I've made that are some of my favorites and it was one Therre, thetwo things I've spent the most time on and I think that's kind of naturallyhow it's going to work great likethe things you pour the most time into youfeel like really proud of the final product, I hope so yeah right most of the time itsthe Idid a video for my top five rebel clash cards. Our top ten rebel clash cardsthat spend a lot of time editing. I spent like ten hours, I think, on thevideo because, like I was just kind of learning, a lot of the stuff withpremier pro, which is like an editing software and I used it before, but likelearning kind of the more indepth stuff of transitions and stuff like that, cantake a little while, if you've never done it before, and then I did a video about Pokemon youniht whenever thatfirst got announced that I spent a lot of time working on to just talkingabout like the news and the update and stuff like that, and that was one likethe morning that the release happened. I started work on video. I worked on itfor like six hours straight uploaded it, and then it got like right now, I'mlooking at it five months, seven hundred views, so it's like sometimessometimes you know you can be really proud of something like the work youput into it, but it doesn't necessarily always equate to you know highest amount of vews orhighest amountof return or whatever you know, sometimes just like pumping out a game play with.You know whatever a good deck is, or rogue deck ISIL end up working out alittle bit better than than you know, trying to make something unique, buttrying to make unique things as like something I really enjoy all righ. Itotally understand I'm glad that you're still proud of your content, even ifit's note the most popular ones that you've fan. You know it's but yeah,that's one of my favorites. It is what it is right, like Youre Click, Batethumbnail, saying this dectad what this is naturally going to gete ourviews right. So yes, so that kind of leads me, I guess,would be the the capstone question for this kind of content creation.Discussion is just what advice do you have for those content, creators thatare you know either beginning or maybe in their early stages of trying to dowhat you've done. You know there are just a lot of thingsthat I've been seeing pop up. You know a lot of new youtubers, a lot of new podcasts that I've seen pop up justmany different avenues that people are trying out right now, and you know thegame seems to be growing from a content creation perspective. So can you lendsome advice to those players that are new to concent creation, new to youtube,Nuwta, tick, tack, new to podcasting? I guess lendsome advice there, yeah!Absolutely I mean some of this advice is like stuff that I don't necessarilydo well, it's like tes. I Know No. I should do better like if I woas still,you know if I'm still like- and I do go through sports, where I do these thingslike where I'm like trying to you know, grow things back up, but anyway I mean,I think the most important is finding A. I think, a lot of peoplewill sayfinding a consistent schedule, but I think the most important thing isfinding a realistic schedule that works for you. You know people who are like fulltime youtubers,like they're uploading videos, one or two times a day for the most part and that's like kind of an unrealisticexpectation to put on yourself. I think, starting out, you know, find a scheduleof like I'm Gan upload a video once a week, I'm going to upload a video threetimes a week, something like that, something that works for you and, likeyou know, say that I'm going to do three times a week for a month and then,at the end of the month, kind of take a step back. Take a look at things andsee where you're at and see like. Okay can I adjust this, maybe increase it.Maybe I need to decrease it. Something like that. I just think like settingrealistic goals for yourself like that is a good way and yeah just like trying to like set short set, realistic, short termgoals and then analyze those goals at the end of that time, period and kindof make adjustments continually but...

...like. If you have questions about likespecific platforms and stuff too, it's like it's honestly different like ifyou're trying to be a tick talker, you know you're going to not really it'sgoing to be a little different than if you're, trying to stream on twitch andstuff. Like that. But true, no, I, like that point of keeping it realistic andhaving short turm gials and someone dos a lot of PROJEC benefit work that, likeresonates really hard, am Eahbuti've struggled with that a lotwhere I've set unrealistic goals for myself, and I think at the time I likelike deep down inside myself, I like believe I can do it and I know I reallycould but like. I should just accept that it's like not necessarily the mostrealistic that I'm going to you know, post a video every single day make atick talk every day and stream six hours a day like that's just not goingto happen like I don't have the time to do that so, and so I don't know, I think, just beingmore realistic with yourself is a really good, an easy thing to do. Toset yourself up for success and also set yourself up to not just like getburned out, really quickly, sure, absolutely sure and speaking of time,what does a day in the life look like for trip sure. So I work for myself. I have a online ebaybusiness so something I started doing in college kind of went around like wetalked about earlier W, I used to collect retro video games at a YoutubeChannel about that and I used to like, buy and sell those type of things toand started kind of doing all kinds of stuff. With that you know when I go to a thrift storelooking for games like, I would see other things that I thought I couldsell as well, so I just started picking them up and, and that kind of became athing that I was going to be temporarily doing whenever we first,you know after I graduate college and moved to Raleigh, where I lived now, Iwas kind of like going to be a temporary thing. While I looked forother stuff and then I moved to Raleigh in two thousand andsixteen and I'm still kind of temporarily doing it- I guess so just you know- and I so I spend a lotof time like listing stuff on ebay shipping stuff. I used to spend a lot of time going outand looking for stuff to sell, but a's been a little bit lessof that. Obviously, with coronavirus and stuff like that, so er but yeah,it's been a little more tough to manage those type of things but yeah and Ireally I've gone through spurts. So it's kind of weird when you work foryourself, because the amount of time you work kind of can determine yourincome yeah and I've gone through spurts, where I've really tried to likefocus more on content creation and, like you know, I do make some moneyfrom conenting creation right, but it's not a lot, and so I've like gone through timeswhere I've like really poured like a full month into it, and I'm like allright, I'm going to try to see if I can get to a point where I'm making xamounts so like. I can spend less time doing this, but then, when I spend allthat time on, he like Youtube and twitch, then my Ebay business starts tosuffer a lot. So it's kind of a tough thing to balance. So that's usually whya lot of the time you'll see me stop like uploading videos or not bestreaming as consistently is because, especially this time of year, selling like being an e commerce, islike the busiest time of year right now in quarter four, so no kidding it'skind of hard to make things happen, but yeah Col, I mean, if you had to pick a timeto work for yourself the last ten months of five time, yeah yeah. No, I mean there's a good thingsin bad things with it. You know, I think, if I had likehunkered down- and you know just got, my major in college was parks,ricration and tourism management, and I think I you know probably could haveyou know with, like internships and stuff found my way into like working inthe you know, public parks, department or something like that here where Ilive,...

...and you know maybe I would enjoy that a lot but like Ireally enjoy the flexibility of what I do now and but there's like you know,good things on bad things with it sure for sure sure. So, aside from the Ebaystore and aside from pokmon continent, what are other hobbies outside of youknow? What do you do outside of Pokemon? That's a hobby for you that you enjoy well is ai pok him on probably still ismy like main hobby sure, but, like I mean I'm married, I have awife and a dog. You know I love spending time with with her and also my wife and but I love e Tom Ith, my family, and you know we like to watch movies andGoang Wal. I mean we used to like to travel a lot, but it's obviously wecan't really be doing that as much these days, but other than that, like I like to playvideo games and stuff still I play games with some friends. I like to cube.I've been cubing a good bit recently on table top simulator, so that's alsostill pokehem on related, but that's a that's a lot of fun, H, yeah! I actually. If we wanted to loap backto the Rechard Games for a second while we're talking about Howbes, what wasthe coolest pickup you ever made, while you're into your rethor gaming pace meand yeah, I had a lot. I had a prettyextensive game collection like over a thousand games in Y, like Litle CollegeBedroom. I sold it al though after I got engaged because, like I was movingfor, I went to school at Climpson, which is in South Carolina, and I wasmoving five hours away to Raleih after we we got engaged at the end of our junior year ofcollege and we did lot we so my so I guess backing up a little bit more. Mywife and I we've been dating since we were in high school and we went toseparate colleges, did the whole long distance thing for fory years, and so that's a persn Yeu like yeah yeah, itwas it was toughit was it was tough for sure at times, but you know, I think,sometimes you just get a little lucky and you kind of realize that you knowyou really care about this person, and you know, even if it's tough for a fewyears, that, like long term for the rest of your life, it's going to beworth it, and I think we were both kind of realized that sit that we, you know,wanted to be with the other person forever like pretty early on intocollege. I think if, if you're, not, if you're going to make it for the Pirst,like you know, probably six months or so of being in college long term,you're probably going to make it the whole time you have the ability to makeit the whole time. I guess I should say but weaol both people being committedto it for sure but but yeah. So we got engaged after juioryear and spent all of senior year. You know planning a wedding and stufflike that, so I just knew that I was going to be moving to Raleig and didn'treally want to move a big video game collection. So I end up selling prettymuch everything I had kept a couple of things that I like really played andenjoyed and stuff, but some of the like highlights of likegames. I had like I found a copy of medal warriors for the or maybe metalstorm. I think metal storm for the original Nintendo, which is like apretty obscure game, but it's a fun little platformer. I got it in a pownshop for a dollar and it's like a seventy dollar game. There's a lot ofstuff like that, where it's like you fin. It's not like crazy, crazy numbers,like you know, two hundred thosanddolar charsards or whatever, but it's a lot of stuff like that, likewhere I'd find a game in a yard sale for two dollars and it's worth likefifty bucks, another one. It would be like a lot of the like more expensive gamesare going to be like cartridge based older games. I remember finding conkers bad for day.That was like one of my very first fines in a nintendo sixty four lots. Itwas twenty fivedolars for the whole lot. It had two systems and like twentygames, including super spash brothers, maromark cookers eberday like and all Icared about like. I just wanted the the...

...super spach brothers. This is like oneof the vrery first things I bought I'd, never even heard of conquers bad forday, and I looked it up. I was like why the heck is this game worth seventydollars like more than paid for the whole lot of stuff, and that's that wasactually kind of my start into like buying and selling stuff. Was thatinitial purchase? But what was the favorite game that you gotjust from like a gameplay perspective, the one that Yo enjoyed the most one of my favorites to play? I think myfavorites to play were still games. I had when I was a kid and I think that'sTrind of the truth. For a lot of people in video games, ere like nostalgic forwhat they remember when they were younger, so some of my favorites are like the the playstation two Lord ofthe Rings Games my brother and I spent so many hours playing those games likean absurd amount of hours playing those games and then also one of the Games. I never really playedwhen I was a kid. I guess this is a good example kind of for your question,but NFL blitz for the Nintendo. Sixty four is maybe the most fun sports game,like of all time and like my roommates, and I in college would just jam out tothat game all the time, because it's so much fun and it's likea great party game, but yeah I mean, I think I guess it's kind of consistentthing like with puck them onto like you, enjoy the people a lot and that's kindof like I enjoyed like those video games that you know lead me to memorieswith people like my friends in college. My brother, when I was younger allthose things but for sure very touching, take I like it Greap. Well good. Let's see, we have a onequestion that I had wanted to ask: youthip speaking of people great seguehere what what are some of the most influential people in your life? Ialways try to ask you know our guests here, some kind of deeper question and so yeah, just just wo, are who arepeople that you really are inspired by or have influenced you besides US yeah yeah right, obviously Riley NJW, but Imean I think I mean this is maybe a little bit of a Copoun answer, but it'skind of the truth. For I mean I would hope, a lot of people, but both myparents, my mom and my dad. I mean I'm, maybe a little fortunate in that I grewup with you know in a great family. You know who cared about each otherspent time together. You know a communicated well, which I think islike one of the most important you know tease to success in like any type ofrelationship. Inyou know including a family relationship, family, dynamicand stuff, like that, so I mean they taught me so much. They taught me aboutsaving and stuff. Like I didn't even realize when I was a kid that I likesohave started to realize as an adult is like you know, just you know goodlife lessons and you know how to manage your time allthose type of things. So I think both of my parents is definitely a big one. When I was in college, I was avolunteer with a Christian Youth Organization called Young Life, I'm notsure if either of you guys are familiar Veri with young life, Yeah Yeah. So Iwas a young life leader in college and I think some of the young lives staffwhen I was in college, were really impactful to my time there I think ca,like people talk about high school being te formative years, which I thinkis like really true for a lot of people. I think for me, college was reallyformative for me, and so I'm glad I had like good people in my life there tonavigate me through that yeah. That's great, so are you still involvedin any kind of Youth Type Ministry? No, I haven't been since I graduated and that's something I would like to be.You know more involved in my wife and I either like were involved with ourlocal church, but we haven't, you know, really gotten back involvedwith like youn life and stuff, like that, since graduation yeah N, it's kind of hard, like I think,like th, those are things we've talked about wanting to do and it's kind ofone of those things hit's like yeah,...

...we'll look into it. You know maybe nextmonth, maybe next summer stuff like that and it just kind of gets put onthe back burner- An doesn't quite happen which isn't the best thing. Butyou know, I think those things are realistic and happen for people rightsure sure. Absolutely I think especially right now. You know whenyou're liking. What does it mean to? You know kind of put yourself with agroup of e of other people right now just and get kind of dicy yeah, mysisterinlaw, so my brother's wife, she is on young livestaff. So you knowshe's, you know so we're I guess kind of sort of involved through her. Youknow we support her monthly on your lifestaff, but you know so we get to hear about allthe great things that she gets to do there, but yeah cool well Riley. Whatdo you think is the time for the card of the day? I think it is a fyu verygood. Well, we have invited chip to provide our cart of the day, so chip,if you have one ready, why don't you take it away Ecard of the day? So should it be alike standard card or like just a card in the past that I've enjoyedpersonally or just be a card yeah ANA card yeah, random card generator yeah,so one of the very first cards that I ever built a deck around and I thinkactually the first card that I took a deck to a tournament with was Giaritinaex from ancient origins. Gona. I was a big fan of that card. Chaos wheel. Myfirst deck was Giaritina viol plume, which I don't really know how that iswhat I like came down to you like you would expect someone wants to get intoPokmon they're going to play like just a regular fun attacking deck, but forsome reason I was like no, my opponents not going to be able to play any cards.No. I do now you're here the person that everyone hates no energies ohmanan my very first cities. I just remember like turn one go like attach, dce andthen set up and get into all my vicomplices pass. My ponent looks attheir hand an passes. I go, attach double dragon chaos, wheel and theyr.Just like, I can't do anything win sogood time good times it's Beaulan TSO funny, Goh yeah, guaritee ex iconic carawesome. It's sad that he doesn't get any highlights anymore. No, now it's been a. We have theGEARTINA for unified mines right so yeah, but I want the tx tat, Ghat'scool yeah, some something spicy, an ultrareer, yeah cool, we're going to Seg me right in to someof the new developments in the POKERMOUNTRAAND card game. We could veer miss as a pokmine podcast, not to talk about them so recently, if yousomehow managed to avoid it, battlestyles was announced for theFokmon trading card gain the rapitstyle and single strike based on Ershfoo'stwo forms in the Isle of Armor Expansion from Pokmont Sordan Shield.The single strike pokemon generally are dark and fighting type and are veryaggressive. Doing high damage attacks, sometimes tiscarding energy and theRAPPI strike forms will often be water or fighting type and are more like tricky. I guess is the way Iwould describe them. They have more like gimmicky kind of attacks, so chip JW. What are your initialthoughts as we take a look at battlestyles in their introduction, Othe TCG yeah? Well I'll? Let ship go ahead asthe guest firsts first thoughts trip yeah I mean it doesn't seem like acrazy new mechanic or anything like that. Like I mean this is kind of beenthe trend. F, the last few years. It's like every you know three or four sets, or so weget some new mechanic, and this seems, like probably the the least or I guess, maybe the mostunderwhelming of those mechanics of...

...last years. Like you now we got phrismstars added. That was cool. You know I mean even more recently, we got amazingreaers added. I think the amazing rs you know, while maybe not the bestor,are definitely unique, and this seems like definitely the least unique kindof like the ultra beast. You know that was kind of like the new mcmenic andthat wasn't it's like. Incredibly, you like the thing that was unique aboutthem, was that all of their gx attacks had something to do with the prize card.Hing yeah, like that's other than that, is just having that ultribuse little symbols so like you could havecards like beastball that interacted with them and that's basically whatthis feels like to me. It's just kind of like a little ad on, so you have a couple of cards that kindof look like they should should synergize together working together.Sure sure. Do you see this ever extending out beyond one set? I mean Ilook at it an it's probably a ant Ed done type of thing, but do we thinkthat ther rabid strike a single strike is going to carry onmaybe multiple sets? I wouldn't expect it to, but you never know. I mean it's obviouslyvery much built around Ershifu, which is like kind of the flagshit pokemon ofthe first of the SORD and shield expansion passes right. So I imagine Imean I don't know I think, probably not outside of like Ershifu there's nothingreally. That like goes along with this theme. I guess so.I would be kind of surprised to see something else. To be honest, surmindsme a lot of the O wenteam magma, an aqua cards came out in that one uniqueset and we're never done again. This feels like the same thing, they're even read and Blue Yeah. I think it was zander. Peroposted a Mene that was like mom. Can we have POK HEM ON TCG battlestyles? Shesaid we have battlestyles at home and it's just about Te Imaqua Ver Isteam Ma, because it really does feel likeexactly like the like. You said the colors are the even the same like thatyeahthat yeah yeah for sure for sure, but I think there are some cool cardswith in there. So let's talk about the individual cards, well start with JW this time and thengo to chip. What is your guy's favorite card to come out of the new like Lompof them? I mean, I think, generally speaking, they're all kind of cool. Ilook at a card like yeah. I think there are a lot of obvious ones, but for methe one that kind of stuck out to me was the mine show with the ninetydamage and confusion, and it reminds me a lot of Excel Gore in the past and Ithink it's maybe a little bit more of a balanced, Excel Gor in the sense thatyou know the opponents confused Os supposed to paralyze like paralyze. Youcan't really do anything right, but confusion. You know there's that fiftyfifye chance at a at a an attack on the next turn. So I don't know I just lookat that card and saying like okay, that seems like they brought something back.It's pretty obvious what their inspiration was, but they made it alittle bit more or balanced, which has been honestly a theme recently withPokmon cards for sure yeah. I think the man showsreally cool. I think the problem accarrd like that is going to haveexisting, especially right now I mean like you, if you compare itdirectly to a cellword, which is obviously like a very powerful dack fora few years and like even it would kind of die off in popularity and then comeback at some point just because, like some other support could come out forit, I mean the ability to do it, for justone attachment is good with th the rapid strike energy. I think that'slike a big part for it to see any potential success. I think the problemfor something like this right now, though, is like so many decks, areplaying just like four copies of switch yeah Niy, so you can just like just get out ofthe confusion and then also like I mean this is kind of a throwback like I remember at world'stwo thousand and seventeen grants. WHO's like a good friend of mine, butalso like a very polarized individual...

...in the pokemon community. Right haslike a lot of really strong opinions. I'm sure a lot of people are familiarwith grant, but he he just said he could not comprehendwhysbeyon. Deoxis are sorry not aspadaxis. SBEON garbader was such agood deck because their damage cat. He said unless you do something theirdamage. Cap Is thirty, because they can only hit you for thirty, with the firstattack of s Beon, you know, their psychic attack is only going to do moredamage based on how many energies you have in play and trashllanconly doesmore damage. Based on how many items you play and- and he said, the thingthat DEC relies on is confusing you and you flipping tales, and so what he saidhe would do is he would just flip heads and punish his opponent for relying onyour opponent, flipping pails. I mean that sems like a good, Strat, yeah, yeah right but yeah. I mean th t that that is arealistic thing, though like when you're paralyzed with Ha cellgor. Youliterally can't do anything even with me and show your opponent can switchout of it to get the guaranteed hit, even if they don't, they can stillalways just flip heads, and then it just doesn't even matter right right tochip that it sounds like Meanchou, isn't your top card. What is your? Whatis your choice? Yeahi mean mine might be a little bit of a cop out because Ithink it's probably pretty obviously the best card, but I think rapid strikeor Shifu VBOX is insane. I think it's going to be a tier one, deck basicallyright away. I mean for one attachment for just one fighting. You can do ahundred and fifty damage from moving to the bench, the active and then, if youjust attach the special water fighting Energy Youo once shot a purose you getto just discard to energy. You Discard that one attachment and do a hundredand twenty damage to two things: it's pretty nuts. So I think that that to me that seemslike the one. That's obviously going to be the best, I think maybe a different answer forlike something. That's a little more unique, I think the ampoleon like theability, you know it's kind of cool like theyintroduced the rulebox thing, Ia yeah, but it's weird as well, because I feellike it should have been the other wayaround like R for it to be good, like should turn off the rulebox abilities.You know the fact a is Tue that would make the card incredible,but the fact that it only turns off non rulebox Pokemon like what are weshutting off in the format right now. I me N Gerachi, that's not really playedas much as it used to be Tapou cocoprism star that affects onedeck and they can still use it on turn one. So I don't know, I think the empolleonis really cool, though yeah I was going to say, ampoll out might be mypick justbecause the introduction of the Rolebos as like a germ, I feel like people,have been asking for some such term forever after thei just has really goodkind of future proofing, Orxactya exactly right. It can work really wellin an expanded format like almo sobock robox takes a way less room on the cardthan POK hem on V, pokemon, gx, pokemon ex pok them on vmax, Pok them onprism's Lek. It's just rubuts makes it way easier. Exactly exactly and likeyou know, having that for future like day Sai for future prooving, you knowno more scoop up net shamand kind of stuff, yeah eahlet's like let's nip that inthe bud before it happens, have easy way to interact with all of those kindof poemon a right. I like it a lot. I don't really care about the Empoli onitself. To be honest, it's like whatever sure yeah but the introductionof techanic as super cool yeah, I m an. I definitely agree: Rapir strikers. Sheyou looking pretty high, you think Pekeron will be able to survive thiswave of trouble. It survived everything up to this point. This eer this seems pretty dire, though I mean astage, one that for one energy, just...

...one shocks your entire deck and testhree hundred a four Oksoo. Well, you could play the MU. I mean hcould play the YOUTUB. You could play the T, no colossally at least didn'tWanc at you. If you had like a big charm or ouside Youa likesure I meanand Pekerom is like the King of just reset stamp paralyze. I win the gameand three turns somehow. You know like that, just as happend so consistentlyfor Pikarom over the last couple formuts. Who knows, I saw that one Mene,I think JW was in it to that. Someone posted to like r talking about future yeah likepikarob still survives. Omailpikaon hammers is still good, probably the truth. Yeah now I'm looking at the eirtshinfowere talking about this. It has that little psychic Simpol in the bottomleft so ow you throw im you to and you attack team Gx and your you hit it withthe. I don't know, eenau discard all of yourlightning type tag teams I mean Zack was playing two copies of Metuan Meu,so you know could happen it's over Tho funny, any other really exciting cars that youguys are ready for from the battle styles rapid strike sets, I don't think, there's anything crazy.Coming out the other support cars are kind of ManYeah. The Fan Card is htw at you're. Talking about I'm talking about thescroll of Fury, the tool, Oh yeah for one Energ, rige or whateveryeah that's kind of interesting, and then also, of course, we're gettingthat, like. You were just about to say the the fan where it's you know we have.Finally, some special energy disruption comes back to the format yeah, and I think you know the mustardsingle strike and the mustard rapid strike. I don't think either of thoseis really great. It's obviously just trying to be like archies and maxisright, but the I think the mustard singlestrike is definitely has potential to be much better. Just because you pullthe card out of your deck and put it onto the bench as opposed to you know like Ourchs, an maxis thenalso the mustard rapid strike. You have to pull it from the discar pile andthere was like an older Maxi Card, an Archi card where you had to pull themout of your hand. I think this is like you can just search the card which iskind of cool, though I do think that the single strike cards are overall abit weaker. You know, that's that supporter is definitely muchbetter than he. The rapid strike, one sure Sur for sure cool. Well, we had we had to talk aboutthe battlestyle, so thank you for giving your takes guys any other choolthings on the horizon that you guys are looking out for on the pokemon world.Any an new cards yaure excited for developments in the metagame thatyou're looking at and well. I guess everyone's kind ofwaiting to hear what a V union is Yad ship had a hot take on VI UNONSbefore the cast yeah, it's just going. No, I mean thatit was it's based off that the one twitter meame right, it's like callyrex and whatever the horse things name is Idon't even remember spectriar or something like that. Ithink I sure in lastrer it's probably just going to be V. it's probablythere's going to be twov unions, it's going to be Kally Rek and the ghosthourse and it's going to be callyrex and the ice horse and that's the twocards and the ghost horse is going to be a psychic type and it's going tokill the Ershe Fuve Nex, that's kind of just the trend of howthings have gone. A tigrod, hammers alsto lie the last fe years. It's kindof interesting. It's like there's one really like we had dragapult,incredibly good strong card. T aturnit just comes out Ka Drapol gonna have ahard time. You know, then we have a...

...turn. Atiss comes out O here, Caes thisErshe Foo by Biaturnitis, and then it just seems natural that we'll see someother psychic thing. That's incredibly Brok en pop up who knows Du yeah, absolutely wol. Well, W. We couldjust be totally wrong and it could be just some other like unique ow. We'vebeen right before and we'll be wrongng Yeah T. so, yes, here's hoping man cool so I'll, open upthe chat, then for a couple questions. If you do have any questions that you'd,like us or ship, to take a look at be sure to leave those in the chat boxhere ill take a couple of them. Befor we sound ot for the day they got one from a Zul earlier. Idon't know what o think about, but I feel like I need to ask it. He says toask chip what his full name is. He just asked it again to NSO. My fullname is Samuel Frederick Richie, the fourth WHOA, so it's so legal yeah. Helook anytime, there's it's always kind of a confusing thing to like wheneverthere's tournaments happening and stuff- andyou can see the leader boards, my name on the leader boards is Samuel, Richieand so people are like who the heck is like Owho. I remember WHO's. A friendof mine text me and was like. Have I been lied to this whole time?I've known you, chip who the heck is Samuel, Richie, but yeah, so I'm thefourth, my dad goes by Fred for Frederick and my granddid goes by Samfor Samuel, and my parents didn't want me to growup being called like Little Sammy or little Freddy, and so they said I was achip off the old block chip comes from, so I my name, my wholelife. No one calls me Samuel. Everyone in my family calls me chip. All myfriends call me chip. That's really interesting. I just really INTEEIG. Sois there a plan to keep the family name going? I mean it's like. I don't evenhave a choice honestly at this point on the forlike. I don't think my Granddador dad would ever talk to me again. If I you know, didn't keep the trend goingbut wow I mean I guess you could foil the plan and just have girls that is fwou're planning on having Coption Sam Ella Samuella. I don't think that one's GOINGNA flywith the wife, but that's Abantha, Amantesur Idon't know what you're Gong to do withFrederick Bit Yeah. Well, I think at one point my dadwanted to name me rick for like Fredrick, I would be rick, but my mom,like, I think, had a rick that she grew up with. That was like she didn't likehim or something that was off the table and OMP iworked outrt WEM trader trainer Rick Work as well. I guess Super Cool Super Col Jifpyou attacked earlier about yourGuauritino Vio flume deck is. Is that like a mainstay in the trainership Laraor you just? Do you love like disrupting your opponents? I mean not particularly. I have playedmy share of like control, deck and stuff like that. I think the decksoverall t the strategy I like the best in Pokmon is just like, likeoverwhelming your opponent, with offense like the deck I've had, themost success with in the past was Megaraquesa, so I mean, and that's what that deck isit's like pop off. You know hit you for two hundred and forty on term. One turnto never look. Ok, never look back, don't think twice, just gast your deckof resources and don't even think about it. Absolutely those are those are thedecks I've liked the best, but like I played my Fisher control,like I said, I played pigioto control at Atlantic Cityregionals this year, samegrant and I came up with a really good list that wethought was good and grantend up...

...getting. Second, I got top hundred andtwenty eight. I think I went six and three, but I hit Nag quagg in the firstround of the tournament, which is like the only auto loss for the deck, andthen I hit aanother another deck that played not Ganadele, which is and pre.I still could have beaten him, but I prized two of my three customcatchers, so that was the quick that was a quick o to start and I started climbing backand then I lost to a Geuritina, a Malamar player,which was a a close matchup. I think if the theMANCAR player they di it well and we hadn't totally figured out thematchup yet on our end, I did beat multiple of them throughout theournament, but this player played it pretty well, and so I was unable to winthat one, but the deck was, I still think, and the Zoles in the chat. Iknow who ended up beating grants in the finals, but I still think that deck wasthe best deck for the tournament easily. It was like insanely good Tel tell usabout your most memorable tournament performance, be it good or bad. So I think one of my favoritestournaments performances. I think like when you askd about that. I have tothink about like the deck I played because, like I think, that's how yougauge things as like how much film you had playing the Deckyo played atCharlotte regionals in two thousand and eighteen, I played Azork counterboxdeck, that deck was so much fun and I got to play one of my favoritecards of all time, which was CARTONA gx. I think artonagx is such a cool cardlike the jocks attack. Just take a prize card, it kind of fixed your youknow your seven prize game scenarios against certain things. So that's one of my favorites alsoIwo'LD, say one of my favorites is not an actual pokm on tournaments, but atNAIC in two thousand and eighteen, there was a two thousand and six formattournaments. On the last day of the the event, and I won that event with an LBSlist that I made myself a palm of blod yeah, yes yeah, he apom and Med cargo snappy move Combo was likenot a thing that people had played in deck. Up to that point, and so I mean,I think, that's one of my favorite ones to and also because like now nowadays,when I look in snowpoint temple, which is the Ritro pick hem on facebook group,when I see people building lbs, a lot of people use that list as a lay theirreference point, as opposed to like a list from twothousand and six, which Ithink is pretty cool. I viously got oeon to see started W. I ways thikinsuperesting, like how things develop like in retrospect, right, like onThali things, people didn't think of at the time that, like looking Therelik,Oh yeah, this is like a good Combo. Theve done this yeah, and especially with that thatspecifically, I mean you know. If I mean the deck aims to play: Haul onmentor. Basically, every turn once you've set up to just get your castform and your attacker, and then you can get your apalm, so you just getbasically two quick searches of turn, and it's also, it was basically put ingthe deck as a counter to battle frontier, which is a big problem forthe deck, because you rely on pigeout a lot so yeah. That was a good reason for it,and I mean- and also like I mean it- wasn'teven the first time that, like someone like, I think not something you wouldreally see. A lot is people putting that cargo plus Pigioto or pigyot anthe deck but Ross coffin did it at two thousand and five worlds. He got secondplace with that with playing both Pigioto and BAC cargrab. He didn't playthe APOM, but yeah it ended up being cool, and I do I really enjoy that tolike just revisiting old formats and trying to optimize things, because Ithink there's just not as much information shared back then. So therewere less opportunity for decks to get optimized because less people had theirhands on them right for sure. But I think I have one last questionirrogating from chat before we sign our for the day and it's you talked earlier about, there'sdifferent mechanisms for different...

...content creation outlets. I want toknow about Tick Tock. What is the secret to O tick tox success? Dude? I wish I could tell you I don'tknow, still figuring tick talk out myself. I mean I haven't been makingvideos the last couple weeks for it, but you know tick. Tock is very trind baseso and a lot of it's based on the soundused like the sound, is a big part like basically from the first time like youas AF youer log into watch, tick, Tock and, like Makang account all everysingle thing that you do, while you're in the APP is tracked. How long youspend watching a video. You know if you click the follow button on the ticktolkpage or if you click on the person's profile. Like all these things, and allof these things lead to what you get fed on your for you page and then alsoall of those things, depending on how often a lot of people are doing thosethings when they see your video on the Frou page will affect how much yourvideo gets pushed onto the Freeu page and so just kind of trying to figureout a balance of that type of stuff. You know most of my stuff on tick. Tockhas been related to Pokemon. You know- and I think that's a big thing to islike finding a thing that works and like really sticking to it and tryingto like build off of that, but then also try to do things similar to it. Soyou can like do multiple types of things, but I mean I'm still very newto tick Tock Dorin, her ticktock imfancy Igoti exactly, but I think it's like I said I said a couple timesalready, but it's definitely the best way to like try to grow as someonewho's wanting to make content and like get like instant gratification from youknow what you're putting out there that'. I will say: I don't think that putting pts I haven't done it yet. Imight try it but like stuff specific to Pttcgo is like justprobably not going to do very well on tick tock, because there's like a huge number of peoplewho are like you got to think- and this is kind of I guess- can go back to anytype of contentration. You can think about things kind of in like bubbleslike this is like all of tick talk viewers and then this is the amount oftick tolk viewers that are interested in gaming and then inside of thatthere's this many people who are interested in Pokem on and inside ofthat there's this many people and PUK them on Tcg, and then this many peopleare interested in PDCGO. You know so it's like you're, just really limitingyourself when you're. That kind of you know sunken in, like you can getsomeone who's, maybe outside of the the pokemon bubble. That's like kind ofinterested in like gaming in general to like watch one of your pokem on videos,but your wayles like I to get one of those people to look at your pok themon TCG online video. You know o make sense to me. Col, well, chip you've been awesomebefore we sign off for today. I wanted to give you a chance to blug anythingthat you got so our listeners will be sure to check those out yeah sure you can follow me on prettymuch all social media platforms. Just at trainership, you know I make you to videos a streamon twitch pretty inconsistently, but you know when I do. We have a good time,so you know and I'd like to get back into.I always I say this like at least once ie, every single time I make any typeof video or stream. It's like. I would love to stream more because I reallywould but it just. You know it's not like my job. You know so Ican't yea, maybe someday it'll, get to a point where I want to make take ashot at it and you know commit to it a little bit more but we'll see but yeahjust ADT trainer chip on pretty much everything. FACEBOOK, twitter, twitch,instagram, Youtube. I don't think I PUTEU on instagram in like two years,but I have an instagram. So there you go any shoutout s, you'd like to give as agrap up today, yeah shout outs to you guys think so much for having me on. Ienjoy OLS podcast. You know I, you know really appreciate peoplemaking content like I talked about earlier. I think content. Is You know one of the keys to growth ofthe game and that's at the end of the day, what I really care about, I reallyenjoy the pook on TCG. I want to see...

...more people enjoying it. I think it hasso much potential to be huge, and so you know seeing people like youguys, making good content. You know makes me happy. So I'm happy to come onand appreciate you guys asking me we're really happy to have you. This wasgreat ship. Thank you. Thanks. Guys, awesome well guys be sure to givetrainer chip all of your love and support. He was an awesome guess and aphenomenal dude so definitely check him out. If you haven't already and we willcatch you all same place same time next week is so yeah thanks guys.

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