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Season 3, Episode 26 · 9 months ago

3-26. Cup Round Up

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are done with the Player's Cup and want to share their experiences! Come learn about how to succeed in these kinds of events, and get some insight into the exciting future of Pokemon cards.

You know what is up guys: Welcome backto TAG team, Pook Mon TRAING Card Games, Premiere podcasting duo, my name isRiley Holbert and I'm joined as always by my splendid, wonderful, fantasticfriend Mr JW Cree Wal, W Howr you doing today doing okay Riley. How are you hi amdoing well little tired, but trudging along yeah. I feel that I feel thattoday we had mock interviews, oh n, the in the class, and so there was this one.I just want to say it was really funny. This dude was like super chill. He hadkind of a mullet thing going on and he had a Patagonia hat and he was like notreally wearing a button down or maybe there's a button now with, like shortsleeves or something so like super chilllhes, like yeah ro like we're here,we're gonna do this like. Let's have a good time like learn about each other,and I was like okay. This is going to be a really casual interview and then he you know we're going along or goingalong and I kind of amd like the conversation kind of transitions fromlike okay. Where do you see yourself in like five years and like? Why do youwant to work and technology to like just random questions, and I thought atthis point when I moved over to random questions like the interview is overand so he's like. What's Youre like? What's your biggest accomplishment- andI was like you know, this is one thing that I did in music and yeah. I didn'treally answer it very well. Allighi was just like yeah is. This is my biggestaccomplishment. I didn't really say anything and then, after the interviewwas the interview as over he's, like Oh yeah, for that answer, yeah you shouldhave said something that tied it back into the Interyeu like in Youryour lovefor technology. I was like what the heck man I thought we were justchatting like. I didn't know, Hiss atest you definitely just you got meyour hoodoing to me. That's how they get you, that's how they get you man.You got to always be on guard with those recruiters. It's true it's true. So anything new inWitsconsin Yeahi mean I produt. Ding live this weekend, so at four am on Saturday. Yeat officiallbe up and running, so I'm doing twelve hour shifts every dayfrom Baterday to Yo next Thursday, which will be very fun cool. It's avery exciting time. You know stress is definitely kind of reached his peak amongst mypeers. If iy lot of chaos going on, but it's an exciting time and I'm I'mexcited to kind of see it through, and hopefully I get a chance to workwith t a project in Ohio where I actually get to travel. That would besick. I M trying to C DIS it well yeah I mean this project was in Ohio, but obviously I didn't get to WR. Wherewould it be which part of Ohio it's in new Ark? So it's just in Columbus? Oh,no, okay, sweet! So what we trying to do tag team like live onset and well, how many weeks? Well, I won't begoing on, say, illmust be working from here, O you did kind of say that didn't, but I think my next product is alsogoing to be in Ohio, but probably not comompos itself, we'll see, there's a couple of upcoming projectsthat I am potentially getting on Gotcha. Okay. So how often do youtravel? I mean it's probably not too much, but I know that for some of thebigger projects you like for like a regular project, I would travel aboutonce a month. Okay, Mi role, travels less requently thanother folks, like other roles will travel like twice a month. Gotcha I thin once a month is like about whatI want to do in terms of like travel for work. You know it gets. You gets yeout of the house. I Yo doing something oniteresting an different place, butyou're not like always away from home either y that' Tu cool, but nevertheless, lifegoes on and goes on in pokemon to thodw Wea hiave reached almost the conclusionof players kept three. I'm sure the listeners are tired of hearing about itat this point yeah, but I think we'll be happy to announce that both of us, unless something crazy happens in thenext few days, have made it through into the next round. So that's allright. That's right! Oui, a year clockin and it just a little bit over ahundred right, a hundred ten or so wel that was yeah. That was last time, so Iam at hundred and twenty six now, okay, one remaining so okay, Gotya top toptwenty right. Now in there you go...

...maymebe at one of these bys yeah. So amaybe I mean that was kind of yeah. I didn't really start thinking about thatuntil I, you know started gettinto that mid oneten. So I was like. Oh okay, maybe there's a chance. I don't know wherethat cutoff is because I do award those by like a one game by to the topperformers, but it's just cost on the Sumber. No shows yeah exactly exactlyso. You know it'd be nice to nice to get that, and certainly there willprobably be a a handful of no shows that just won't have time or wont wantto do. The next pase of the players come yeah. THAT'S SUPER COOL! I I waschecking the rankings like yesterday and I, when did you get those lastcouple points I iaid notice that you yeah? No, I mean I was. I was playing.I played like two today, just in my lunch break so actuall, so I just wascleaning them up and I was like you know. I probably won't have too muchtime tomorrow and I probably won't play any on Friday. So go ahead and try to finish up a few.While I have the time today, nice and I'm sitting at ninety nine, I haveseven keys. Left isadly ended up losing like two moretournaments to disconnect. So no I've intotal toss five keys, which Oh, myGod, that really sad I felt like I could have got a score comparamol oyears. If I a did'T, keep happing wow, I will say, though Riley we did play once we did and you won thecoin flip and the and the crushing Hamer the Bat.You definitely won the crushing her of battle very hard. That was unfortunate, but it was till no Yeahan Yor good sport about it yeah.So you know at the end of the day, I think we're both really excited to e goon in the next trand of competition. I will say you know, there's a lot ofhate being spread about this format. I kind of I don't know if it's like aformat, that's like in my top formats, but I don't mind like just playing abunch of games of it. You know sitting down like slamming down peekarond games.That's always just like a fun time. So yeah I mean there, I mean I'll just saylike I still find that there's a lot of decision making, but it's just you have less turns tomake decisions. So that's you know. I think where most of the issue comes in,like H, the game hasn't in terms of turn by turn complexity. Idon't think the game is any different from certainly more recent formats likepeople uphold like two thousand and eighteen as being the psych incredibleforman and like it was probably better than it is now, but I think I a turn byturn basis. You're still looking at the same kind of decisions, I would saythat you did back then so yeah, I think generally, it's good forman well good forman may thatit's subjective for sure. I think it's anacceptable format. Just Games are a little short. I think think everyonekind of understands that yeah- and I think I think, really the shortness ofthe Forma- is what's allowed a lot of these strategies that people don't liketh become so prevalent like because games are so short. Thingslike crushing hammer have so much additional value, because when you'reonly getting tree to four turns to attach for a turn, Nof thos is pretty big yeah. No, I meangene generally speaking like crushing hammer throughout its lifetime, reallyhasn't been. That impactful I mean, I think, back to the first time that I played crushinghammer ind a deck was when it could be reused, multiple times with theslerpuff trump card engine. You know, and Ithink like that whole period in between then and now I don't think I everreally played crushing himmer. Maybe I'm thinking of a very obvious. Youknow exclusion there, but you're absolutely right with turns only youare with Games only going a few turns. You know three, four five six turnsgetting rid of a a couple: Energy really important right and it's- and I think you hit that nail on thehead, like previously crushing Ham Ril, be the kind of card that only reallymade sense and decks that could use it multiple times. So, like you'R,Rangeroo deck, your stabilizeak, Oh Surepardyeah, that's the Os ecuion. Youknow the things that could continually take advantage of that crushing Camer, because it's like anherentlynonreliable card, but in this R formant a I think the Cardpool is kind oflimited, which certainly plays a factor ab the Games, s so short that beingable to remove an energy attachment for turn- and I would also say like theattachment o Eturn is super. Important right now is very important. There's alot of like multiattachment attackers and there's not like incredible ways toaccelerate them. Yeah Yeah, there's, there's very yeah non well now I wouldn't say unreliable because they're definitely veryreliable, but they're very maybe unorthodox ways a lot of times in thepast. You could, you know, do that energy accelerationand then also attack, but now it's...

...generally you're accelerating throughthe attack. So you don't never really have those extremely explosive. You know turnswhere you can energy excel and get the one shot right. It's thek gone of thedays at the be strings and the maxilixers yeah and the double ColisEnergy. Where you slap things down and start going. I think really that's oneof the bigger differences is we don't have anything mad party isn't anexample but really the form as nominated by multiprize pokemon andthere's no like single attachment. multiprize pokoman really runnin theornet right now right, absolutely now Ian over allgw. Is there any likelessons learned from this player's cop as opposed to previous one? Do you think you clearlyhe success? Is there yeah? Well, I player Scop to I just did not play verywell and I was kind of upset about it. To be honest with you, I just definitely knew I kind of threwyou know. I threw at least a handful of keys, like I knew that I didn't play mybest like with every single key in playerscup to so I was kind ofpromising that to myself like don't, don't throw anything away, don't don't let one key go by that you're,not you know trying to play as best as you can, and I mean certainly it's veryhard to keep that level focus for every single game, but I certainly did a muchbetter job and the results kind of speak for themselves. I learned a lot about the format tothat. I don't necessarily think I yeah that I would have learned I guessfrom just following others opinions for one. I would say that I you knowmatchupwise. I had very, very favorable matchups in in matchups that I otherwise thoughtwere generally even or unfavorable. So, for instance, I was think I alwaysthought that Senda scorch was a generally even matchup for Pekaron, butI found that to be not the case where I pretty much smoked most of the Ennoscorches that I ow came in contact with and then ADP. I also felt like was apretty even matchup, but after just running the numbers and seeing fromPlayers Cup like I was dominating ATP like in fact, ATP was a matchup withPKRAM that I wanted to face as weird as that sounds, and then the other onethat came as a little bit of a surprise to me, but again, like always trust thenumbers, you know go back to what the number say. There's a lot of inpogemanthere's just not enough time to you, know, test every match of in depth,but when you do play these matches on the ladder or with your friends testingfor a big event like try as much as you can to like write the stuff down,because then you get to look at the numbers, you could say: okay, here'slike an objective measure. I played these games. I remember how they wentand you know. Okay, at the end of the day, here's the win loss record, and soone matchup that I found was favorable that I had previously thought was likealmost unwitnable or you had to get kind of lucky to win. Was a luke metal,matchup and I've found that to be pretty Ba, I mean, is you know I havesomething like a sixty or seventy percent win rate against Lecario mailmetal now, how much of that is them not playing optimally hard to say Iwouldn't classify any of the Games that I played against, as like being obviousthrows. I don't think anyone was very obviously misplaying, but you know just again. It goes to showfor me like. Oh, yes, writing, thes, stuff down and really tracking the data.You know, I feel confident going into a look metal matchup with Pkaron, so thatwas just something I learned and something I thought was prettyinteresting and another andh. I always say it to like thepeople that a coach like write the stuff down it just is going to help youin the long run. It like you feel, like certain things are bad, but maybe inreality they aren yeah for sure, and we've always talkedabout like the value of of recording on the cast, and I think that it goes toshow here. I I think my numbers largely agree withyours. I found most matchups to be fearwhy. I personally have one aridiculous amount of Beeronyers Yeah Oi've lost I'v played. I think I didn't do like a calculation beforethis, but I've played around Twenty Pikra Mirrs and I've lost two of them,one of them to year. So that's that's APIC, so idon't know. What's going onthe Peter O me erbut something's messed up that Mattis Really Parbul for Ptrom,yeah and yeah. My numbers otherwise have been re much in line with yearsyeah. I did I've thrown five random keys at Lucar as well jats. What I'mkind of bored the Carr memo was like the ultimate like. I don't really feellike paying attention deck like just...

...really. That's interesting that you saythat because I feel like it's the most like of all the decks, an currentstandard. That's the most that I don't Hav! It's like you, don't do a ton on the individualterms with the car O Mon Metal. So it's like yeah sure I can just you know Ican attach and hit and Chep in t sore and then do something else and thenGome back and like I' yeling. It like the terms themselves, might bethoughtful and, like the Games tatt be longer, but it's like not a lothappening. eithers can just kind of like zone out sure IAS miike bad, but Idid really well my little Cardoka. So that's awesome decking out the DESCI UO of thecaromemeal. That's always such a good feeling, yeah yeah, exactly exactly so. What yeah anything else that you kindof took away from this Players Cup. I took away that atnt has some issuesforsure? Yes, it's been kind of like that at myapartment for a while, but yeah like it didn't happen much during theyears onto so something something changed in the water out here. Outside of that, though, I mean, I think. Ultimately, the message is thesame one that I've kind of been saying for a while and that's a you know,stick with what you know and what you like and that's, where you're going tofind your success. I mean I see all sorts of decks every different round ofthese events in the players. Cub. Actually one thing I observed that I'lljust call out briefly as I've seen a lot more ATP. The later we've gone intothe players, Cop I'v Barely seen any ATP. I said this last week I barely sawany ATP up until like a couple days ago, when I started running into like everyround. Basically, I think people now are like I had to finish my games fast, like my head yeah, it's kind of my headcannon, but you know I've seen an I've seen thefinals pretty much every deck. You could imagine at's in the Meta game, so you know playwhat works for you and like well, and that's really, I think, going to be thekey in this format like playing a deck really well that you enjoy is going toserve you better than kind of not fully going in with a dackthat he doesn't work as well, even though it's like, maybe a better deck, trure sure yeah, absolutely I'm not saythere aren't like tears within exet. Clearly, a lot of them can find successon the so right right, no, I mean overall 's been fun. Fifty keys is a lot, but I enjoy likethe players cap experience I enjoyed it for Players Cup to I enjoyed it forplayers, Kep three, I'm really. I think the hardest part is kind of likegetting going once you hit like that groove. I feellike it's EA yeah finish them out. Yeah Yeah, definitely definitely yeah. It'sbeen a great tournament, I'm happy with how things are finishing up. I'm going to plan on doing a little bitof a writeup over on twitter. So if you'reinterested in kind of hearing like fleshed out thoughts on the Players Cupthan definitely don't miss that but yeah, let's move on to our next topic,rile that some new cards that have been released, I think the most excitingones, the Bertrio. We got some new birtrio cards that are that are goingto come out: Galarian, Articuno, Galarians, afthos and Galarianmultrusbe. So why dot you talk about maybe a little bit about each of thecards and what's what's your favorite of the three yeah? So let's go just godown the line and briefly touch on the actual effects of these cards and their attacks and what they do so Laran Articuno v has the secondconstract and granded. This is all translated from dephanes, so this maynot be a hundred percent accurate to parts, but Glanar Kunov has secondconstruct. So once during ar turn, you may discard two cars from your hand. Ifyou do draw one card and it has a a tax psyche, beam for psychdelocoolist dosone time, damage and confusion. Glarian Zaptos V is a fighting type. It. Thefighting instinctability afree pokmon fee X, cost one colorless less and thenfor fighting and triplecololiss it does thunter clap kick for hundred andseventy damage and discardd special energy before doing damage. So, for example,week discard it can pierce through that. Well talk about the obviousimplications of that in a second and and we have Calaran multrisve withbolstered wings. So, basically, once for turn, you can do a dark patch onTumultreus and then it has orburn fror hunded. Ninety damage, a thirty reecoilso startedg for the top, then with articuno think articuna is probably themost underwhelming of these cards, but I think it's still pretty cool. It'spretty well designed, in my opinion, yeah, like I think when I tweated about how much I likedthe bird cars one of the responses I...

...got was you know. What's really soappealing about Articuno, you know it's pretty costly and you draw one card Eah. The counterpoint to that is, Ithink if it drew two cards or if it was discard one draw one. It would just beso so good right, like younoes applicable. I think this Tis Card to draw one mightnot see like immediate obvious play. It's a great bench through, thoughespecially an expanded, where you can like properly an egg or maybe to yeahyeah. Exactly expanded is absolutely where I look at articuno like shining.You know it's just that extra dro N, if you're going to play as or Arctec orsomething like you, you might as well play this or if you play really anydeck. That has at least one egg. I would say because, like you mentionedyou w discard one draw. One would be really good so discard two, but if youdiscard and execute they can just keep getting back like that seems verystrong yeah, it's a great bentsitter in Anydek that plays an egg. Also, if youplay instrucktor rangre this kind of pairs really well with it. So when youget those Entelo situations, know if you get into one you will typically youknow: you'll Drav, your part return. You have two cards, so you can justdiscarb both of those if they're not what you need draw one card and thendraw more off of Ringr. So Ik there's some ACTA like pool uses there coolcomas, you can get going, I so I like it. I think it's better andexpanded than standard, but I would be surprised if it neversop playing standard Wut. We get the we get the cricket tune and that kind ofleads me you're talking about a Rangarooan like the combos that you canhave with other bench sitters, and so there is this new Crickatoune, which isvery reminiscent of another, very good, a rangaroo that could draw your hand, you know upto three or with the Cricke tune, if it's active, it can drop the four, butthat is another kind of obvious use energy there with the new cards thatare havving out, so I mean I called out: Insttracktan Expan is the same Combohere, yeah yeah, exactly exactly so yeah I like Articano, a lot. I thinkit's again, I think it's probably the most oderwhelming of the three. But byno means is it bad and I think it's well designed to I would have been. Ithink I would have been unhappy if it was more powerful on the ability thanit is now yeah. I think yeah I think discard onedraw. One would have been okay. This car too, draw two might have gotten alittle ridiculous because you could have you know four on your bench andthen you're just getting a little insane, but as it stands again verybalanced and I think we're looking at, I mean pokemant as always kind of beenabout resources, but certainly now in the in the current standard, like Ifind that I'm generally wanting to hold onto resources a like accruw that bighand so discarding to is often not like you have to make some difficultdecisions, sometimes, especially in that really game, so interesting card. Really cool can'twait to see how people use it. But let's move on to the second bird, Ithink, probably the one that is has the most obvious use and that is glarinsZaptospee yeas is Aptis again that ondred and seventy damage and reducingthe cost obvioususe case there is knocking out oturn itis Ia soturn a me Max Hav'n had three hundred a forty health. We dofighting so the math is pretty much exact there and they can't play asingle weakness guard to get around it either because appitus will knock itoff before doing damage so like it seems like a very obviouslike this is the counter card to aternit is and honestly like. I wastrying to think ecause. Morally, his cars like Dhistics, usually like somekind of reasonable way to play around it. Like the the low punty and JiglyPuff Yeph. You know you could keep your peekeron down to a couple gxes and andbe fine. I don't think Atturnin. This really has that same luxury, though, tobe honest like if you just have an Atturnis N, a backup, a turn of thisand one grow. Bat. Then that's enough right, so it's pretty cool. I mean it'll, itturns ill, probably be forced to play like big charm or something I mean any deck that plays fightingenergy or a ror energy. I don't really see areason not to play this. It's just such a good card and honestly, like Ondred, and seventyfor even like two is pretty good against decks that just have like anEldagot and a Crowbat on their banch yeah yeah. That's a that's a greatpoint! Well, it wouldn't you know, be as impactful, obviouslyagainst non fighting week decks, but still yeah, like you said ondred andseventy for like one or two, his card energy. Like yeah, I mean I'm justthinking like in terms of splashable attackers for fighting ye been likereally bad recently, so yeah sure for sure for sure be having like a a quickand easy like hunded and Seventyeih, maybe for maybeless is instill valuable for iding dex in geneal, outside of like thesplashable tech. Yeah. Definitely do you do you thinkthat Glarians apthos brings up any...

...complications in terms of like powercreep or anything like that, because, as we're talking about it like theyjust printed a card that is going to pretty much like end eturnitus in oneattack and it's just kind of funny to me thinking about their thought processwith Aternatis being like okay, we have this. You know, I don't know if it turnus to the legendary Pokemon, but this, like you, know, ultra powerful Pokmon,and you know we want to really highlight it and give it this kind ofprominent place in TCG and then they just come along and are like yeah. Okay,that was fun. You know colossal, didn't do enough.Let's, let's make this basic Fokemon that just one shots it so are there anykind of power creep pissues that you feel are an era behind a card like Zaptos?That's just like a one card, exact counter to a major deck. I mean I don't think. Zaptos is really theexample of power CROIP. We need to look at right, like I think. Exactl is theultimate ourcret card and then Atturne. This is also like a pretty power.CREEPYEU kind of card, so I mean Pepmon, is historically hadthese kinds of counter cards, maybe not or as cheap, or maybe it's not as simple to use likeyou know a good example en years past. There are others, but you have stufflike the like. The mutu against Buzzwlle waskind of like a soft counter, but that required choice ban in addition toenergy attachment, usually right so, but then you also had like the Muex,which kind of fills the same role like for one attachment for a to prizer UkoRice Pokimon. So I don't think it's like two powercreepy and in theory, atturnists can play around it and practice. I don'tthink it will be able to, but at the very least you're giving uptwo prizes when you, when it gets Kode and you're dedicating n attachment toit. So you have to still scrounge up anotheraturnists knock out because, like presumably what the I guess, the gameflow here is that you know your Attorninis vmax will knock somethingout if it's arive they're knocking you out with his Aptos so and I just neemto take like one more knockout, so right, soin theory, you know, I don't think it's going tobe like two two crazy, but it's a nice option for those decks. I just needlike a little more oof. They get through Aturnes Yeah Yeah. Definitely I think it's I think it's fair generally, I feellike it. Maybe I mean for Atturno. is players it's going to feel they'regoing to definitely feel it when this curd comes out, because, like youmentione it's just very splashbule, it's just like yeah that one car techthat it you know goodbye to the whole archetype. So I generally don't likethat. I wish there was like one more way for a turno just to do somethinglike maybe if thes aptos didn't have that discarder special energy or maybeif this aptos did like ten less damage or something like that, but I mean it'svery clear that they printed this with the Turner hus in mind, and this is theway that the want to take the game and I'm not terribly mad about it. It'sjust I wonl say the fact that also discards. The special is like Yeah Dang.This is like on purpose for sure. Yeah Ye h definitely definitely targetedaggression, so it very funny for sure I mean at thevery least I mean I think, atturns is kind of chokes outlike some like two price dacks and three price decks. So yeah I mean Ihopefully Zaptus will give them more. I mean you look at, I mean you know. WhenGalarians aptos comes out, you know we're closer to a rotation as soon asATP goes like. This is kind of we're saeing that they're introducing thesevery powerful V cars. Two frisors, you know taking maybe a little bit of thestrength away from three prizors and hopefully creating more turns like wetalked about earliy on the cast for decision making. So I think that'sgenerally a good thing so that Scalarians af those v. let's talk alittle bit about Galarian multras view, which I find pretty interesting as well yeah. So multresv is, I mean a dark patch. oniability isobviously going to find some applications where I a little disappointed that you can onlyuse one bulstered wings for turn, so you can only use one ultrisabilityreturn didn't really feel like that seemednecessary to me, but it is what it is at the very least, it's a new tool foreither dark box decks so kind of like we, vile focus, decks and standard, andthose have kind of like they've crept around a little bit here and there. Somaybe maybe they'll focus more on we vial and boltress. Instead of like ahydriagoon kind of engine, sure it's also a great option for likeAttornis dexhernis Tex that use weevil...

...hetting around crushing hammer. I meanthis is like be counter to that that Strategis, so that's also really cool and then anexpand. It has the obvious application of being another sposible tech in adark box to give them a free energy attachment on which they love so yeah right. Absolutely, absolutely. Ithink you nailed it on all front squar and Multris wone to watch out for Ilike it as kind of a an energy accelerate that isnan oftenattack. I mean we talked about this early on the cast like all the EnergyExcel, for the most part is often attack power excel bulltons electrify.You know atpelter Creato DPYEAH, whatever that attack is called ItheJeus Louis, it's like my brain is fried, but all these you know off the attacks,and so it's nice to have this kind of energy acceleration that you know wehave metal saucer. I guess right. We have frostmoth, I guess, but justgiving more decks more opportunities and something that's a little less. You know more similar to that metal,saucer type acceleration, but can be used by a lot of different things. SoI'm looking at things like Vecavle, you know, maybe you get glare and Multrisin the diskcard and then you bring it back. U Get that dark energy and youenergy switch it. You know that can be kind of cool or you do something likeyou with the new slowbrow, the Galarian,slowro or slowking. That's coming out. You can do the same thing and do somefun stuff there. So I don't know glare an Multesi I like them, and it's alittle more splashbl, obviously than something like a metal saucer which hasto go onto a metal pokemon feel like this can kind of work with thosecolored and colored lists energy attacks that some poke on him. Yeah.Absolutely I mean that's a great big point. You have like that. enteryswitch Combo to accelerate e the one colorless kind of attacks, a little bit,which is obviously valuable, Yep Danal said we de your miss to nottalk about some of the other arts which were revealed. I think pretty much theday after our cast last week so yeah. I know it kind of stinks that were thatwe missed a lot of these, because I would have been great stuff to talkabout last week, but we got some new cards here. We got a Blazakin vmax,which has a clutch attack doe sixty for one energy, a I do like those low costattacks on the VNAXES and then a double CC attack Max plays hundred and thirtyattention energy card for YA DIS card piles. Up to two of your bench, RappirStrike Pokmon. I assume Wat that translation. It means you know you canattach one that each of them we have a very interesting card in the antellionRiley. This intelliand does twenty damaged. One of your oponest spoke Mon,very reminiscent of the decision ID gx that we had from a few formants ago anyinterest in this card. From your perspective, I do have interest in thiscard and what I think is cool is you know you don't Tapistar Pomon don'thave to evolve from rabid strike. Pokemon Y, though I could easily see the intellionbeing like a spash in like stage two dex like you can use the drizzisle toget your rare candy for your other stage to and then just get out liketheir rappin strike and tellion and start sniping like decidoy. I doubt that it will see a dedicateddeck like decidiual. I did I'm a because I think twenty Damagisn't whatit used to be and B it doesn't really have the same. Like kind of supportaround it like to dry, had either nine tails gx ORT had abioplumed kind of like wacker, punents down or snife really heavily. There's,not really that same thing for intellion Yep, but I think the card isreally cool. I think it'll find itch play and you know I got t evn shoutup, likeall these rapid strikean single shike cards, looks super cool as well, andI'm Al Yeah. We were talking about the art on the Sabl, he's doing like ameditation thing under a waterfall it pretty interesting but yeah. I generally echoyour sentiments where it's like it's going to be hard to see antellion inits own deck on the same level that a Decidiui was in the pastors becausedecision I had you Kno, better attacks relative to the HP AF the time you know.Obviously the ability was better relative to the HP at the time and hada nice gx attack that could get it out of some pretty tricky situations, butyou look at the whole line. You know it's very obvious to me thatthey are envisioning this card as being part of the metagame, because they haveyou know the Sabel has a continuous call attack a very nice setup attackfor a basic, and you know the intellion has like adouble CC. Energy attack cost, so I think they're kind of envisioning thiscard having some of that utility, like you mentioned the and very important tobring up yeah, doesn't need to NV evolve from a rampid strike pokemon sothat drizisle we could play...

...the the search trainer out drizisle andit can still evolve into the rapid strike in telling him so very coolstuff, from pokomana very encouraged by this by this pokemon line in terms ofthe card design coming down into the GALARIAN slow king. We mentioned thisone earlier, but I'm very intrigued. My galarians Lookang v with the doom wordsays the defending pokpon is knocked out at the end of your opponent. Nextturn so obviously there's that kind of cabiat that you have to wait. A wholeturn for your pones spoke mind to get knocked out, but there are certainlysituations where that can be extremely powerful. It's just the defendingcokmin is knocked out, so it could be a one prizer. It could be of VEMAX. Youknow it could be anything over ound, your pontost side of the field and ifthey don't retreat or switch it out of the active, is gote. What do you think about a card likegalarians looking be rily, yeah do word and similar attacks hive. Never superimpressed me, especially in this format in particular, where which is probablythe highest. It's been played in years. Sure that's sad. It's still really cool. Italso has a really interesting v Max, which goes all in on the poisonstrategy, placing twelve damage counters perturn with Max Toxin, and it's got that reepy Galarians,looking look to which yeah eah these are awesome. I love these twocards because I mean you look at again like the carddesign is very encouraging to me. You have three attacks that are all likevery usable in certain situations. You got the Glariaus. Looking vis firstattack going to draw you some card just get that early game set up. You got thedoom word, that's going to be pretty good. I think, like generally most ofthe game, but maybe in the late game, you can get a reset stamp or somethingput your opponent in a kind of an awkward situation where they have tomake weird decisions. Yeah, like you said, maybe not the most playable, justin the sense that there's a lot of switch out there and a lot ofbirdkeeper and Maloan Lana and Scup Nen, and things like that. But still justlike a USABL attack can knock out anything I think that's always veryvaluable, especially for to energy and then the BMAX pretty powerful. You gotsome poison stuff going on again. The switches are going to be reallyimportant against agalarians looking vmax teck, but if you can get that tostick, maybe you get out a you know something that augments poisondamage, something like the t. He the Tax Croak Line, then Oh, hey, you're,taking knockouts coming back into your turn, which is always really powerful,love to take knockas cin sure to it also is the Begi Line betrol knockedout a pokem on the Hase, any special energy attanched to it, but I think the cards that have de havereally drummed up the most ype or discussion. I guess you couldsay I have been the trainers, in particular the echoing Horn card BAPKICstrike item, but it is' really have any relation term HAPA strikein. Particularit's just a rappir strike items you can stearch with artillery, I guess yeahand what it does is. It puts a basic pokem on from your pronise to scar pileonto their bench, so it's just target whistle abut rapid strike, and so the implication of that, ifyou're listening, I think should be obvious and that's that ATP can putinto Dene or Crow Gat back on your benchand win the game without youinventing it. So you know PLA on my wileis now becomemore difficult than ever mov for yeah, it's kind of absurd. I mean, I thinkyou probably just go into echoing horn instead of malwhile and ATPDEX. Rightlike it seems, like maybe a better option, because you, you know, arealmost forced to in this current state of the game to play those support.Pokemon so might as well just get it back from the discard pile EAH. I meanmy wile is like thet good that and I think the threat of it is also enoughto force them to this cart things right. So I mean even thinking of like the decision bykind of decks right where they'll try and like fit out the basics see don'tmowiall them. He just egoing orn, thou, Ye, yeah and the card seems really good. I'm curious to see like what kind ofcounts Woll make it into ATP and yeah. You know how use because, like yousingle count, items just aren't really going to do it. In my opinion, like Ou,I need to play multiple of them yeah. The only real single count item that wecurrently have would be resed stamp. You know, and most of thetime you'll see it in a two count, but I will just say: Sand's ADP. I don't really think thatthere's a deck that would want to play echoing horn target whistle isgenerally not that playe like...

...throughout pretty much its entireexistence. You had some you know expanded Genanicans that you could dowith it and hit certainly like shown in the expanded format, but, like you saidwhen you're not reusing the card, when you don't have other cards to reallyget it back regularly, then it becomes a little bit less impactful. On thegame. Yeah I mean there might be some kind of stall strategy that uses it orsuresomething of the like, but I on ye ti screams ATP. When you lookat it, it certainly does certainly does moving on to Karen's conviction. Thisis a supporter for again single strike. During your turn, your single strike.Pokamons attacks, do twenty more damage from your opponents, active Pokemon foreach prize card. Your Pont is already taken so a potential to add anotherhundred damage on top of what you're already doing is very reminiscent ofanother card for the past Iris, so tylors ramped up for sure yeah, it'svery cool. How do you think that this will factor in to the MEDA game? Do youlike this card at all, and do you like that they boosted that that damage douby? I think the damage definitelyneed to be increased, O it to be viable from Iris, and I also I would hate to see likesupporters, especially just get reprinted with a different name outsideof those like draw three supporters. You know I like what they're doing nowwas well with like e the research off hise orders, an cart, yeah ai think Ithink Hara's conviction is okay. I don't think it's like fantastic. Ithink. Overall, the single strike pokemon have just been kind of lessI've been more underwhelming rather than an the rapid strike pokemon. Ithink the one hit Cao kind of vibe they're going for is just as e Ou Dus, like the the really consistent vibe at therapper strike, is going for, I will say, thou the one thing I like about Karan'sconviction is also the introduction of a new single strike item where thewelcoming lanterns, so you get to retrieve a single strike supporter fromyou justcytpile and put it in your hand, so that let's cards like Karen'sconviction where they might be a little more Nich in their use, be liing more consistyo right like theyget that you can use the multiple times or if you discard in the early game,you can use it in Lahe game yeah, the Super Cool. I I think the welcomingLantern Akabsecer two point: Ou is really the savor savior of carts likecarens conviction, Eah, absolutely couldn't agree more.there. We have one last trainer rapid strike, Brawley Searcher Dick Forup tothree rampind strike basic pokemon and put them on your batch important. Anote that at least with this translation doesn't say you know non VIPokemon. So, presumably you know you could get a bunch of V pokemon which,but you know, is interesting. I mean it only searches out those rapid strikesso certainly have big help to those style. Decks yea and you youten to seethat kind of then where it's like the single strike is about having somecrazy ballistic turn and the rapid strike is about having like consistentn, convisanc setup and parents yeah, and I think youall should know which, which ofthose to, and I like more I mean super cool overall, I think thesingle Strikan rappid strike was a really cool idea. I'm going to be sadwhen it when it nefinitely gets dropped, idn't like one set but yeah. I knowjust it thiis going to fizzle out, because I think there's a lot of coollike cammos that they're, obviously setting up you know pretty inherentlybut yeah we'll have to see how this that goes down. I'm certainly intriguedat the at the car design. I mean just to what we talked about on the cast.There's a lot of good things happening, and I hope they continue to make. Youknow, basics that have good attacks, that evolv into evolutions that havegood attacks or good abilities, and then I hope they continue to printthese very at the very least, intriguing options for items andsupporters very well said yeah, so beon the lookout or are single and rapid strife battle.Styles TAT coming out yere. Soon it's going to be Super Fun and the cards alllook really really cool. That's one thing Ha's con across all of these. Let's Ponsition, though, into a littlebit of a blast from the past Takean, look at our card of the day so for carthe day this week it's Pokmon Week, you know the the big anniversaries comingup at the end of the week here, twenty fifth anniversary Pokemon, and withthat I wanted to all back a little bit. No this pokmonweek, especially in a lot of like brewing hype around the Gen for remakesand for getting a lot of spotlight bokmansn't new this things for the lasteight days, Ori Guess not h. Last but thell eight days, leading up to PokemonDay for every day, they've tweeted out,...

...like the starters from that generations.On the eighth day, they tweeted out the and eight starters and seventh day thatJenan, seven and so on, and the Gen four starters. First off they startedthe to eat with, let's go, it's kind of, like maybe implies of doing a let's gogame but sob that twe got o so much interaction compared to the others. Itwas insane. GENFOR is really on people's mindsright now. I was also bikin a Gen, for that was like kind of my school busskime when I was in middle school yeah, so very fond memories of goingunderground and playing with my friends. There, though, I wanted to pick a gen forstarter at first, I was thinking maybe on thefireside, but the Gen for starter I settled on is one of my favoritepokemon actually, and this card is just so the and its Turt with Gl. I love that card. Everyone loves to, Ifeel, like everybody loves toinggl, it's such a cool card, it's the art is dope, he's just so angry andready to fight, and it's so for Dona ware. TURTWI GL is a GIM leader Pokemon,so an SP pokemon from the diamondin Pearl era. So it was a basic, but itwas it didn't evolve. It was just Turkwav Buhad NINHP, which is a lotmore than you expect to have on on Turtwig, and it had a overgrow ability where, if it's HP depleted below sixtyit did thirty more damage and you'll see how that all ties together with itsattack Gig a dram which does thirty damage which, on its own, maybe not too crazy.But after you attack, you get to heal, Turkwig Gal for the same amount ofdamage that you did so the Combo. There is pretty obvious where TURTWAG will continue to like fall below sixty, butthen it does sixty damage and it heels back up. So it's ust such a cool card. It'ssauce, O Nich use and a bunch of decks. There are people who play their own,dedicated Turtwig gieldecks, it's just it's! So awesome and the artis just like Al Timer. That's like a amaz fock hem on car yeah. Well, youknow what it's so funny, because I looked at that and I was like Huh. Thislooks like one of my favorite artists of all time and turns out. It is so I was just looking at the art work fromfrom Kanako Eo and that's the artist that does this and she does a bunch of harkold Sol silver era. I mean she did she's doing a lotof car. I think it's a she, but they are doing a lot of carts from from Harcolzel silver era,especially the supporters. So like the copycat supporter is her as well asthis Turtwig and, let's see, there's one other one. The twin supporter isalso. I see that yeah there's some other thing, but the thing I love abouther art style and you'll notice it if you look at her Pokamon Poga, my Cotch, but generally speaking,they're all on a tilt go back through and go on the Pogonowebsite and look at her or their stuff. Sorry I keep saying her, but look attheir stuff and you'll see that they always put their pokem on on this likeslant. Well, that's not always, but it's like seventy percent of the pokeminar on a slant it just it's very interesting because as soon as Irealized it like, I couldn't unsee it that's pretty cool, and I also when Ithink of their art, I think of like very bold lines, but with soft colorskind of Yep and that turwig definitely has thatgoing for it. So a great card, great art, Super Funto play, and but he's a big boy is while I gotthrough O crheat cost, no, it just go sosomlov for turn Wa. Ilove the Turtmey line honestly. This may come as acontroversial take, but I think the PIPLUP line is my least favorite of theGenforla augers yeah yeah. I can't can agree with that. You cats, your least favorite, then, isit Tur Twi? Well, it's like no, because I like Turtwig, but I think the theworst final EVO has to be Tortera, Tor Terris, so cool, okay. Well, I agree to disagree. He'sgot like a zen garden on his back yeakind of a weird thing, though, thinkabout it. No, it's cool okay, WEL GREE! To disagree. You got afire monkey, that's pretty sweet! You got a penguin like I think. Penguinsare pretty cool. I think the Genfour startes overallwere pretty cool. I just have a fondness for the church.We line- I don't know I think in Frir might be like Y overalmost favorite,but Turtlig in particular is rocks.

That's fair, like Tur sekis is reallycool, yeah, definitely defitely a cool one for sure he does have one of themost underwhelming second stages, though, and Grottele Yeah GradelcanGroda an eat it man, cols Gatfor, thats Def on that never needed to be madebrattles, not great! Well good! I'm glad you brought thatcard up, because that also brings that great memories. I use TURTWIG A lot inmy high school pokemon card deck. So that's very fun. There you go tho IHT,that's really! All we had today so feel free and drop any questions in the chathere. If you want us to address anything there, ojw now that we've gotten moreher preview into matal styles, is there anything that you're particularlyexcited to try out coming into battlestyles ilike for the for the memepotential I mean I was thinking about the I was thinkingabout the Galarians Slowbro v with that doom that doom attack- I just I alwayslike like trying to make that work, because you know that there's going tobe some player that puts them into a like put themselves into a very badspot where they don't find a switch, and then you do Moredem and they justget knocked out and, like that's hour, only attack her and then you just keepdo wording and, like you, just win the whole game and you don't actually doany damage. I just that's. That's the dream. Man. I can tell you're very excited aboutdoome word. Oi Am ire NNA tell at you like that before. I think it is doomcounted on anflow yeah. It was on an absole, I think, but for some reason II remember that being a little more expensive. Maybe it was still just two,but it was through. I was going to say I thought it was three, so it made it alittle harder to get out or no doom news was two, but you had to put theenergy into your hand. Oh, that was it yesh. So it's not. Itwasn't very reusable yeah see the thing about the Galariat sloking is like youcould potentially tank. This boy like Yeu, could take a hit right like youcould put a Cape of toughness or something on Hem, so you cul at leasttry to get a couple of doom words off, which seems pretty reasonable. To melike to Durm, do Morns perssloking, I think you're. I think you're doing goodthings. If you can do that, I think so. Yeah we got Wala S DND six, nine n chatasking any battlestyle stuff that has expanded potential. None of itshonestly jumped out too much to me for Spanid in particular. I wouldn't besurprised. I guess the Ershi Whu Vax saw some sort of expanded play like strong energy on the witchingattacks, kind of cool yeah e h. That would have been the the answer for meas well. Not of these are really that strong, inexpanded or they're, likemaybe effects that we've already seen in the like there. A lot of these arekind of reprints of older cards that are currently in this expanded format.You know I look at like intelliatn right as being like classics as anexample or like Karen's conviction. You know something like that, but those are already effects that wekind of have, and they don't make much of an impact currently so probably not thinking that these will impact mutch in the expanded format.But you never know you know. That's cool thing about printing new cards islike there's always the possibility. There always is the possibility. I agree, and I think I also am hearingthat there's a possibility that you listener will be following us on ourSocial Megia platforms, so if that is possibility in your future be sure tocheck out at smiles as Riles at Real John Walter and aunt Tagteam Pokemon ontwitter and leave a rate in review on your favorite podcasting platforms feedthe algorithms for us they're hungry, they are very hungry and it does us agreat service. I've been noticing a lot more on more people just found the cast. Isend that shout out for the Linkedin and it was actually really cool to dothat, because I got to interact a little bit with some of you guys justMessagng at me and hey like hey, I listen to the cast like love, your showand all that- and that's just really, I don't know, makes me feel good and likegives me more energy to keep going so not that I was thinking about quitting.But, like you get, the idea, just you know, makes you feel good. So thanksfor reaching at guys and and continue to do so. Thank you. All so much for listening asalways, we appreciate you and we will catch you all next week, hes see a.

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