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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 2, Episode 22 · 1 year ago

2-22. Darkness A-Raids

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The boys sit down for a quick chat on Darkness Ablaze, Raid Battles, and the current format. Stop by for all of your TCG needs!

What's up everybody? Welcome back totag team, the POKEMON trading card game for Meer podcasting. Duou. Myname is Riley Houlbart, joined by my good, good friend JW crew while. JW, how's it going today? It's going really well. Riley,how are you? I'm doing super well. It's funny for the people who areviewing the actual video. GW's got a green shirt on, so Ican't do the Chroma key. No chroma key today. That's right. Idon't ever really think about what I'm wearing, but have you ever accidentally wore agreen shirt to stream? I think I have. Yeah, I thinkI have, and I think I just got cut off, or maybe mycamera I don't have like really anything more sensitive, but maybe it was ableto distinguish. I can't quite remember what happened. Yeah, or actually,I know. I think it like was able to distinguish the two greens,but only slightly. So I was like saying hearts of me. Yeah,it's like taking a photoshop layer and like turning the opacity to fifty percent.Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, so much for your body. That'ssick. That's it. So that's we're talking about you. Speaking of well, my week's been good. We were talking about you just before the Streamstarted looking like Dr Disrespect for those of you that are not watching the podon Youtube. Or they got a nice little mustache. Well, I callit the mustache trial because what I've done is I've trimmed the beard besides themustache down to like the three millimeters, but I've kept my my stash itlike a nice full state. So, you know, it's you get tokind of get a feel for our mustache. Is that really committing to the actyet? Right? Right, and how's IT grown on you? It'sokay. I have a try out for like a week now. I don'tknow if I have it in me to fully commit, because I like howthe beard like shapes your face. You know. Yeah, have you been? Have you been getting any, you know, compliments from the ladies oranything like that? I don't see like very many ladies in person right now, so makes sense. Yeah, and you know, a large portion ofthe time actually that I see people, I'd be wearing a mask. Soreally, the fish are not. Yeah, have you actually irrelevant? You needto grow your eyebrows. Yeah, like grow the unibrow out. That'slike going to be the new fashion standard. Yeah, for sure. The newedgy thing that you do is grow out a univerrowse right, that's right, that's right. I mean I do grow on. I have to pluckit. Oh, really? Okay, so I don't really get anything herelike my to be fair, my eyebrows kind of are like I get alittle bit of like extra hair, like I probably should take care of theselittle extra hairs up there, but I don't really get anything in the middle. Well, you have a just like these nice shaped eyebrows I have,you know, the thickens. You do thickens. But enough about our physicalappearances, because I don't think that's what people listening for. I don't.I suspect not. You know, I I suspect not either, although whatthey are on Youtube, I mean a might being after right, yeah,it might be. Just listen, I'm just turn on you and just watchour faces move. There you go. Yeah, but you know, there'sa fair amount of stuff going on the pokemon world. I think there arethree main things at JW and I wanted to hit on today. So we'llstart from the top, right in the competitive natured scene, and we'll talkabout the Players Cup round one. So the first iteration of the Players Cuphas gone on. If you managed to escape with less than one loss orless and two losses start, then you moved on to the next round,this coming weekend. A lot of decks saw success, some crazy ones,some expected ones. I mean I've enjoyed following along with it and not notlike watching a ton of streams or necessarily, but I've enjoyed watching people post theirdeckliss and yeah, talk about their experiences. JW. What's your favoritething that you've seen come out of the Cup so far? Well, therewere two. So you look at Colin malls in telling on almost our list. That's I was like that was trying...

...to beat you to saying that.Okay, I was playing around with it. I have no idea how he didwell with it, because it just doesn't seem like like it's a anokay deck and it seems like it might have some like okay matchups, maybelike like a little bit favorable, like maybe ATP is love a little bitfavorable, but you're not like blowing anything out and then like you have areally bad peak around matchups. I just you must have die dge, likeall the peak around that were inevitably in that tournament. And like, propsto him. I mean it's a cool deck, it's cool idea. Ijust think that there are decks that probably do you know, probably have ahigher winning percentage, that do take less, like less to set up, youknow what I mean. It's like a little more streamlined than this.It seems a little convoluted the way he gets two wins. Yeah, butI digress. And then we also saw a Ross from peach CG radio makeit into the second day with an ex couldrill deck, which is the onethat you know, you can, for one energy, discard your what topthree cards or something and then do a hundred and twenty and then, ifyou have three cards are less than you do one fifty or something crazy likethat for one energy. So he must have hit all the peak rounds thatColum missed. And Yeah, I mean that's why it really checks out right, for sure. For sure, it's great. I mean, congratulations toboth of them and for coming up with some really interesting decks at I haveno doubt that there were more interesting decks out there, but those are thetwo that really come to mind. Yeah, I mean this is a great littletime for especially because the tournaments so broken up so you can kind ofsee how things do it different phases of the event and like what's going onthis early phase is definitely where the crazy decks will thrive, I think.Right. So, the Italian deck. When I saw the list on twitter, I was just like, what the heck is this? What am Ilooking at? Yeah, you know, obviously, like the concept of Greensplus off of stars is certainly not unfounded. Yeah, right right, being playedin like guardivoir sylvion. Yeah, I think the newer iteration of thatis having the the fossil stadium via a part of that engine, as opposedto like a rare candy, a'most our thing. Sure still, though,like a try and true, I guess you could say, idea of pairingalmost are with Greens and until the end was an interesting choice of partners.I guess in some areas it does well, although the symbol in the bottom leftof that card it's not very pleasing to me. Wow, which symbolthe weakness of all? Oh, I yes, yeah, stood, yeah, I understand. So, yeah, that one's not too great to me. I mean that that deck was I mean Colin had been working on itfor a while. I mean it was something that we had kind of knownabout for a while. I had covered it on my youtube channel maybe acouple months ago, but that was just something like he had tweeted it outand maybe didn't have a performance in a tournament where or maybe he had takenit to like a limitless qualifier. Maybe didn't do quite as well as ashe did in this player's cup. But yeah, it's just interesting to seethat that list be kind of kind of given the the the go ahead forthis tournament and then really do well. And you know, I honestly I'dbe so hyped if it made it all the way. And well, Idon't think that that will be the case. I think it was an awesome effortat trying to come up with something new for this format and that's justreally exciting. As a content creator who is having a tough time staying inthis current format, it's good to see fresh things come out. Yeah,so I think we'll look back to that in a second here. But whatelse have we noticed from the players? Got? For me, I've noticeda lot of people talking about peak ram again. It feels like Pete Romjust constantly is in and out of the conversation, and right now it's veryin. I swear this weekend was just everyone was talking about what the bestversion of Pe Kurram was. It was actually sure very odd to me thatwe still haven't settled on the Kuram yet. I guess that just shows how versatileit is. Is a deck right, I don't have it. There beenany trends that you've really noticed? I mean to me, Pe Kurramjust seems that from your deck people are talking about. Yeah, I thinkbe Ram was just probably the most consistent...

...deck to play. I mean itcan really beat anything. It doesn't really ever struggle to set up and Ithink in a in a double elimb like this, where you know your twolosses in your out like, you just want something that's going to do somethingevery game that like gives you a chance to actually play the game, andso I like that for the tournament ATP was something that I like for thetournament and I have no doubt that the performed well over the course of thatday and will perform well again this weekend. Yeah, so, needless to say, I'm excited to see how it pans out. I'd like to lookback to your comment about sort of struggling with this rebel clash format. Obviouslyyou're very intimately involved in like the content creation element, right, where youhave to show you play the game a lot, like just by virtue ofstreaming, you to make youtube videos and the challenge with the youtube videos istrying to continually make them engaging and interesting. So right, what about the rebelclash format is really made that a struggle for you? I think thatthe interplay between a lot of decks is really lacking in a lot of ways. There's not too much back and forth. There's not too much come back potentialoutside of like, I mean, Marnie is kind of that come backhard but like there's there's not a ton of like interacting with the opponent's deck, and I guess my example for that would be something like, I meanjust ATP. Being in the format hasn't nest like I've enjoyed ATP at certainpoints and it's lifetime, like I've played it. I've enjoyed the deck generally, but like now we're on to a second format with ATP and just feelsour ATPZATION I should say. But we're onto a second format with that deckspecifically, and that just really kind of puts out an it just feels like, you know, games and on this clock, and I don't necessarily lovethat. Or you look at a deck like you look at it like goingagainst Dragon Pault or something, and like you're facing you're playing any deck,and the interplay there that you could do is like well, if I havehammers and I can hit a hammer on turn one, then like I canwin, and like that to me as indicative. Instead of the end gameplay, it's kind of just like well, if I play this one, youknow, if I play hammer and I hit heads and I get it, then I can win the match, and if I don't, then it'sgoing to be a lot harder. I don't know, just that kind ofthing I've been noticing has been really holding this format back. Not a lotof interplay between decks. Sure. So, if you had to prescribe what isnecessarily the cause of that D do You have any idea? Is itsomething that could be fixed in the future? Like, you know, when Ihear about stuff like hammer being a problem, you know that's the hammeris just a crappy. It's just something they have. Yeah, sure,yeah, yeah, but stuff like ATP, obviously its format warping. To me, when I think about like decreasing almost the interaction and the skill capsthese decks, I think a boss's orders actually being a problematic card, justit's introducing additional free gust is, especially when decks like ATP do exist,seems tough to me. Right, you know. Right, you get soheavily punished for falling behind this format because when you talk about cards like Marni, you know they might be at effective to a certain degree for getting ridof custom catchers, but you know, one boss's orders is not at tallask off of four cars plus a Geraci or whatever. You might be doing. Right, right, exactly. And then even with cards like Aldgoss,right, if you have a boss in your discard, the turns a quickfall into the yeah, I agree with that to an extent. And likeyou look at, yeah, you look like at you look at a decklike ATP and it's like maybe it's trying to rely on having an ATP tolike tank a hit. But like if you're the ATP deck and you're playingagainst something you know and they're trying to put up their main attacker and youcan't one shot at well, you might...

...not even have to even attack intothat attacker, like you can just snipe their bench. So, like you'resaying, there with the with the boss orders, a lot of times,like you're going to need the Dnny to set up, you're going to need, you know, these support Pokemon to get going and you can just goaround and it's time on the bench. I don't know if that's necessarily thecontributing factor for me, like the main contributing factor for me. I lookat Hammers, I just look at the interplay of certain decks is not reallybeing as exciting as I as I wanted to be. There's not like alot of out I don't feel like there's a ton of outplay potential, exceptwith maybe a deck like spirit tomb, which is not necessarily out playing youropponent, but just like making the correct sequencing decisions on your turn, andthat also maybe is a little bit lackluster in my opinion. So then toreframe that, it almost is like a deck skill cap thing. HMM,sure, is that? Yeah, how you feel? Yeah, yeah,I suppose. It seems very like to me just kind of do this,do this, do this, and I think this was put in really goodperspective by if anyone was watched on the youtube channel, like I was doingan old format, two thousand and seventeen, two thousand and eighteen format, whereasbreakthrough to Crimson invasion, and that was all about, you know,and it had its flaws to I'm not saying it's like a perfect format byany means, but that was a lot about find a lot more about routing, say what. Definitely not the Crimson invasion one was, but it wasa lot about routing and like what you take a knockout on? When?And like there were sometimes where it didn't really make sense to even take aknockout. And, you know, do you want to get? You know, do you want to set up a pokemon for a later turn or whatsupport? Or should you play? Was a real big concern back then.Like do I play a mallow or do I play a Goosema, or doI play an n like that? Those are real tough decisions that you don'tnecessarily have like the best play. Like you don't necessarily know the best playat the time, you know, because they do different things. Like there'sso much variance and what could happen whether or not you play the mallow orthe N or the Goosemo or the research or the bridget even in some casesthan like that is. You know, right now we kind of have twochoices. Is it research or Marny? And it's really just, well,whatever I have in my hand, you know, and it's and then Iguess boss's orders right. So that kind of rotation of those three supporters isn'tthat skill intensive as opposed to formats in the past. We just don't haveas much choice, I feel like, as we have in the past.And Yeah, these decks really feel very linear in their game play. Likeif I'm playing as Asian deck, like Zation down on the first turn,attach an energy intrepid sword and like swing, swing, you know, swing,get us, which swing, get us, which swing, get somemetal saucers, you know, swing, and then, like with Dragon Pult, like get a dragon pulled down, attach an energy. Yeah, Idon't know, it's it's concerning. I don't know that the format is necessarilygoing to get any worse. I don't think it'll be quite as much ofthe same, which I'm excited about. In terms of the new format afterthe rotation, but I maybe I'm not even voicing my concerns like that.Well, but it just feels a very, very linear in terms of the amountof things that you can do on your turn. Yeah, I feelvery similar, and I think part of that is almost the card design isshifted direction, as it does every block. I sincerely hope that the sounded moodblock and the like in the future will be remembered fondly, because Ithink that was a very well done, especially like the early sun and moonlike. Yeah, you had to evolve into your gx has and well,and I think actually that we should get back like it. We're kind ofseeing this evolution again in the form of evolutions, like as soon as evolutionscome back, and like you have a...

...pokemon that goes from being worth twoprizes to being worth three prizes all of a sudden. That's a new introductionto the game that you can, you know, decide, I'd whether ornot to evolve that Pokemon, decide whether or not to make it better,quote unquote, make it better, and I think that was a big thingthat I really noticed in one thousand, seventeen and eighteen is like you couldchoose when to evolve yours or Zurua's. You know, you could choose whento evolve your Raults, and sometimes it was you might have had the peacein hand to go into a guardivoir, but it didn't really make sense todo it that turn. Because now it's a now it's a big liability onthe bench. Obviously things are a little bit different now with certain Dextra's notyou know, you're not really able to one shot of emacs. So it'sreally hard to like, yeah, to make those plays where, you knowyou get punished really hard for evolving into a vmax. But the point they'rejust being that you you have this extra choice and the format should shift aroundevolutions, and so having that additional choice and having that extra prize given foran evolution should, in theory, make some like routing decisions a little bitmore interesting. Well, to me as well. It goes beyond even justthe Pokemon, like you know, I think they're early GX's are really awesome, just like, yeah, really fun cards. But even beyond that,like the supporters you specifically called out, like a multitude of sun and moonera supporters. Yeah, you know, gave you meaningful decisions, like Malawas a super cool supporter to use in those or arc decks. Like wehave some toxic ones to like they had goose mynece Rolla, but at leastthey did something. You know, I feel like this heart, this feelslike a heart. The sort of field format feels like it Harkens back tox and Y, which I really didn't like the X and y block thatmuch. It was very linear, like, you know, you just have thesebig ex's that did random crap and you know you had your Sycamore,your end and you'll have stander. And Really, what is the difference betweenthat and and what we have right now? We have research, Marnie and boss'sorders. It's the same start like right I feel like we're recreating theXY era very closely with the way their cards are being designed right now,with the exceptable. But now we tip, the XES are bigger, round andso and you know, it's not inherently a flaw to have like alinear format, but I I enjoyed more personally, like I love ZORARC.I love those kind of decks and I feel like we don't have as muchgameplay like that anymore. Yeah, and there's not any other thing too,is like yeah, sure, it's fine to have these kind of big boysswinging back and forth at each other, as long as we have some semblanceof like a counter strategy to that. And I think the best counter strategythat we will have in a post rotation metagame is going to be like millas opposed to maybe a stall variant or even having just like a stall kindof mechanic involves, you know, I look at like cards from the past, like Hoopa, where it's just like you there is some interplay there with, you know, how you attack into a Hoopa, what you use toattack into a hoop, but with the Scoundrel Guard ability right blocking on GX's and and x's, and so there is some kind of interplay and likesome kind of deck building choices to like, well, if I think I'm goingto face a lot of HOOPA's, you know, maybe I'll put inanother you know, basic to attack with. There's not really that kind of cardor those kinds of cards that I see in terms of like a truecounter deck that countered x Di see for the post rotation format are mostly basedon weakness, mostly based and like mill type things. So I think itwill improve generally. Like I'm not like the my my overall level of satisfactionis not is not that low. Like we're talking kind of in in termsof, I guess, degrees, in terms of like I'm at like aand I'm not saying like I hate the game at I'll buy any means,but you know, I'm at like a six or something, or a seven, you know, when I could be at a, at a ten interms of my enjoyment. So yeah,...

...yeah, I don't know, justsome thoughts there too. Yeah, I just I really miss like this isark days, man like standards are arc, which is so fun. Yeah,this isn't even ignoring like the toxicity that expandeds arc brought with it.Sure, sure, yeah, while says also weakness mechanic as a mechanic sucks. I mean it's fine, but it's like when you're only way to beata like an eternity is to swing into it with weakness like that. Tome it just it's too much of a shit, like, especially when wedon't have like counter cards, like a retaliate, to rack in, youknow, when we don't have these counter cards that can be like kind ofpowered up in one turn that you could splash in like a like a counterto a deck. Like when we don't have that as it really is hardto have interplay between certain decks. I mean I am excited again for rotationto kind of switch things up and maybe there are some cards that we canget into, but when the whole counter to a deck is just playing adifferent deck, that to me feels a little cheap. So let's let's talkabout rotation that. Is there anything that in your very early testing as broughtyou promise? Um, I have really enjoyed the eternity is. I thinkit's better than I really thought, which I guess is kind of I meanI was a little bit hesitant to say like, yes, this is thethe be dif but or certainly the but it's certainly the best deck to comeout of the darkness. Ablaze said like hands down, far and away.You know, there are some things you could you could argue like there's noDedenne, so maybe your setup is worse, but you're really looking at just gettingout. You know, an eternity is getting an energy attached and thengoing from there. And I think like little innovations like playing the capture energyin the list help you facilitate that, you know, getting all your guysout without really needing to have Dedenne to try to dig more into your deck. I just think it's really cool a mechanic to with the with the ability, because there are some things on the Vmax, there's some things that youcan do with the ability, like you can let your attorney just get knockedout and then that's your only one, and then you discard your bench,like, let's say you had something damaged, you just you can discard your benchand like that's kind of cool. That little again going back to thisthought that, you know, the evolution choice when to evolve is is somethingthat's interesting to me. And then, yeah, I mean I'm excited totest more things like sent to scorch and and Vika vol particularly. We're goingto throw vca volts on the Stream tomorrow with Andrew. So I'm excited tosee that. I'm excited to watch that. Yeah, yeah, you enjoying tabletopsimulator is like a mechanism to work through this. Yeah, it's okay. I initially was a little bit hesitant and it's certainly I mean it's nothinglike playing on the pokemon trading card game online client, because all your decisionsare you know, you have the manually do everything. So, especially whenyou're trying to communicate with an audience, it's like that much harder. LikeI feel like I missed play enough in the game just trying to like interactwith chat and make it kind of an enjoyable stream or like talk through myplays, like I feel like I do enough miss play there, but thenwhen you add in the manual factor, like in you're trying to keep areasonable pace of play to not make it too boring, it's it can bea lot to handle sometimes, but it's it's been really fun. It's beenreally, really fun. I hope that, you know, everyone that's been watchingit has been having a great time, because it's something that I could definitelysee in the future being, you know, regular thing and hopefully morepeople can kind of get on the tabletop simulator as more of a viable wayto just test new things or even test old things. Like could be cool. Andrew's been talking about doing a cube. Like I could upload my cube andjust do you know, have more access to those cards than you wouldotherwise have and I think that's a really good thing for the game. Yeah, I haven't had a chance to do...

...it yet, but a friend ofmine keeps asking you to cue with him on tabletop. So it's a littleclunky. You have to get used to some mechanics because obviously, yeah,I have my tabletop simulator anyway for, yeah, other Games. Okay,so I'm really kind of know where the next the next evolution of tabletop simulatoris going to be some kind of strict scripting mechanic. But I'll probably takea significant amount of DEV or. You know, it is take a significantamount of work put into that, but I think it could be worth it. Well, when you and Andrew were in the discord just hanging out andlike testing out tabletop, I was like man, there just has to bea way to do this. Like yeah, well, it's just like it's thethings like Marnie, you know, where it's like kind of kind ofan awkward mechanic in real life. Yes, Martie is Marty might be like avery special exception to yeah, yeah, yeah, so, like Martie justsucks, you know, no, no two ways about it. Buteverything else is pretty self explanatory. And and we can get a get bypretty fast and pretty efficiently now that we kind of had the ropes. Yeah, I was trying to think if I can at least know the rops,like personally, if I could try and script somethings like energy attachments. Issure sucks. Yeah, yeah, this is that's not like a promise.It's just something I was thinking about looking into myself. There's nothing. Yeah, and cont exercise. Yeah, that'd be amazing. Yeah, that's nota promise. It's just something that's like, as someone who works and like theprogramming space, it's something that interests me as like upside project that's tryingto make tabletop Moore streamlined. Yeah, but it's definitely I mean it's aninnovation in Pokemon, like it's another one that you add the long list oflike Pokemon TCG innovations because of covid and I think, generally speaking, likeit's a good thing, like it should lead, hopefully to more higher levelplayers being able to test this, you know, newer formats earlier, youknow, and I think that just overall is a good thing for the creators, it's a good thing for the viewers and just a good thing for forthe game in general. Yeah, and you know, I think, Ithink just conceptually finding more opportunities to interact with your friends and play the gamethat we love, it's always a good thing. So absolutely. And thenit's a really good like kind of gateway right to maybe a newer player,you know, if they don't want to go out and buy all the cards. Will now if able top, tabletop simulator become or some similar you knowtcgu one in the past, I guess. But if we all kind of thecommunity kind of coalesces around one one program, then like maybe that becomesthe standard for a newer player to get into the game and like they don'thave to buy all the cards, but they can still play with all thecards and you know, maybe there are tabletop simulator tournaments that could be runningthe future. I mean there is like kind of this this boundless possibility ofwhat can be done and I look at it as something that's really, reallycool for a newer player to maybe get involved in the card game a littlebit more without investing too much into the physical cards or even into you know, codes for the online client. Yeah, and you talk about newer players,and so that's a nice little segue into the last thing that we wantto talk about today, which is the Pokmon rate battles. Right, thisis to be what I got this email from pokemon about this new thing atbecause that, you know, I get the emails from their website about theraid battles. I was like, what in the world am I looking and, to be honest, now that I've like mess around with it, it'slike still, what in the world am I look? Yeah, a littlebit. Yeah, sure, I know you've kind of enjoyed it. Whatis that? Well, right, what is your take on the raid battle? Yeah, I'm when I first saw it, I mean done in alittle bit like granted, you know, is it's just kind of a bigdeparture from, you know, actual cards. Right, it's a big departure fromour year for you know, quote unquote supply was to play the tradingcard game. But when you take a when you take a step back fromit all and look at what it is...

...trying to do, I mean it'sintended for that young audience or that new audience that has these cards but can'tquite put them into the context of a deck or a metagame or you know, battling against other people, and so it's just a good little introduction tothe whole idea of competitive pokemon trading card game, and so for that itis successful. I mean this is this is really like kind of that gatewaydrug, like if somebody gets hooked on raid battling, and I could evensee this being kind of a thing that even experienced players do just for fun. I don't think it could ever be like a like a format to itself, or I don't think it could ever be anything organized in the competitive sceneor like something that people would want to do more than one or two times. But you just look at this as as something for the for the newerplayer, that could really get them hooked on, you know, using thecars, playing with the cards and then eventually, you know, building theway, kind of that gateway again to competitive right. Yeah, when Isee it, it reminds me a lot of when I was a kid anddidn't know how POKEMON cards worked. Yeah, yeah, like, I don't knowif you had this problem, but me as a kid, pokemon cardsor very hard to understand. You you like Yugo cards were very easy.You know, they had attack, they had defense. If you attack wasbigger than the opponent's attack or defense, then you wouldn't like that. Okay. Yeah, and there was like kind of an instant like mechanic to it. Wasn't like you were building up damage right of time. So like soto me, like such a new Pokemon, like there was a couple things thatwere confusing there. Like how does the damage work? Was One thing. How to energy work is another thing. Like you, I'm just a kid, not read the rule books or anything. I don't know any ofthe stuff does like Righte so just, Oh, go ahead. So likebeing able to and what it may be. Kind of sad because people were justreally harshly beating down like the Yutt't think you know on twitter and stuffwhen it yeah, announced, and I really think you know you're missing thepoint, like is there. It's for you know, it's for kids,like it's meant for is meant to be a fun gateway into using the cardsthat you could freshly, freshly got out of a pack. You know,you don't have a deck, you don't have anything crazy, you just takeyour cards and play with your friend on on the straight battle thing, andright. I think it. I think it does that well I think youknow. Ultimately, I wish it was like better built, like what Iwould wish for it, even if it wasn't integrated into the the TCO client. I would wish that it. Sorry, like hit my microphone there with myspeaking of my hands. What I would wish is that you could atleast like choose your cart, like maybe they had a card, Dad,yes, and you just choose it instead of having to do everything manually.Yeah, yeah, then, and that comes to a few other issues thatI have with it. But just for those of you that don't know thatare listening to the cast, this is the POKEMON trading card game raid battle. Just to give a quick summary of what it is, it says PokemonTrading Card Game Raid Battle is a fun and exciting game that lets you experiencethe TCG in a new way. You have a battle assistant, which isonline and it kind of guides you through how to use your cards, butgenerally there is a vmax pokemon that you're trying to kill and, like youare well, trying to knock out, and you and up to four ofyour friends, yeah, right, and you end up two. Four ofyour friends are looking to are just going to be you and up to threeof your friends are looking to do enough damage to knock out this massive andtruly Mathi. Yeah, yeah, so like two thousand eight hundred health,you know, something like that. So you're doing it with your cards thatyou have. So whatever card that you have, the theoretically you could playin this raid battle against this person. And really that is what we're comingback to here when we're saying like when I first got into Pokemon, youknow, I just wanted the you know, the Pokemon that had the most energyin their attack and the most retreat costs, like that was the bestPokemon, and so and so. Like this really kind of kind of takesall you know, somebody can think that...

...they have their best pokemon and itwill actually contribute to winning this raid battle. I think it's a cool mechanic tokind of incorporate with the video games as well, which is something thatmaybe they're like, is a crossover that might happen because somebody sees, oh, there's a raid battle kind of mechanic. I like raid battling and in thevideo game, so maybe I'll give the trading card game a chance.But you have a couple of POKEMON. There's some different mechanics with different cards. There's like a cheer mechanic and a knockout mechanic. The VMAX POKEMON doesdamage to the players, and so you're trying to strategically whittle this pokemon downthrough the use of your own cards, and it's interesting. I think theclient is is okay. It's just we haven't quite gotten to this. Butlike it's very manual. It's very manual based, and so it would havebeen. I mean you you know, obviously it's supposed to be very simpleand very easy to understand, but I think maybe a little bit more interms, and they might add this in the future, you can't really tell, but, like you're saying, a card database or something similar to justhelp it along a little bit more. When I first saw it, Iwas really high because I was like it would be really cool to have this, to have this thing be like all inclusive, that I could play withmy friends online. But that's not what it is. You do have toplay with the physical cards, so that is going to kind of hinder itin a, you know, a little bit. Yeah, so, yeah, and I think the fact it's so manual is ultimately it's biggest flaw because, you know, as a kid, I don't really want to have tothink about and input all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously, I I think, I think you probably work. You know, ifyour kid under the age of what would you say? Probably eight people beusing computers on the two years old. Now, okay, I don't know. That wasn't back in my day. We had, you know, Ihad AOL when I was like twelve. All right, but you know,you're probably working with an adult. You know, it's certainly kind of thatthat idea there, that you're that you're, you know, with maybe a family, you know, maybe with you your brother, your dad or yourmom and trying to make this thing work. So certainly a family mechanic there.Sure, sure, yeah, maybe you're a little bit of a boomerthere, but I certainly am a boomer. I also an idea, though.Like no, it's definitely cool. It's cool to see that they're innovatingand it's I mean this is absolutely at least from from what it looks like, this is absolutely another kind of covid you know, innovation that the tradingcard game has done, because this is clearly like you know, a gamefor people that are stuck at home can't really go out. You know,it's just their family or just their brothers or whatever, sisters or yeah,it's just something where it's kind of this self encapsulated thing where you don't reallyneed to know that much about Pokemon cars, but you can still participate in thecard game experience. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So encapsulating all ofthis different stuff. We have, you know, the present format,the rebels, we have the darkness ablaze format and we have these raid battlethings. Looking to the next week or so, if I want to dosomething pokemon related, which of the three was you recommend? JW? Imean I'd recommend looking at future format. That's what I'm going to hope todo. Well, hope to do. That's what I have set up todo in the next couple of weeks. We will be doing some stuff onthe channel. With current format. I think there are still like plenty ofopportunities to play in current format if you're looking for them. There's like pokextournaments. They are are, there are, I mean no limitless, but there'slike the Sunday Open. You'll pie Sunday open and there are various discordswhere you can get in and play some...

...tournaments. So I would look ahead. Looking ahead is has brought me probably more joy for this set than ithas for a lot of sets in the past. I kind of rag onthe people that look too far ahead, like it's kind of a joke inour friend group, like you know, you will just get a new setand like people are already looking to like two sets in advance and it's justkind of like, why would you know? Why would you're talking about rotation inSeptember? Yeah, yeah, exactly, and so, but I've just beenreally excited for this, this next format. I should I think thatit should bring about a lot of healthy growth, healthy change for the tradingcard game and some really interesting new cards are going to be released. Yeah, I would recommend the same thing. I would recommend either playing some newformat refresh yourself or finding some alternative means, like building a cube on tabletop simulator. I think is a really fun idea, a really good way toenjoy time with your friends and to me I always, I say, I'vesaid this so many times, when the cast I always get refreshed on thegame when I kind of do something new with it, like take it outsideof this current standard realm and do something fund and new. And whether thatmeans playin old format on like the pokey stats things or yeah, the oldformats, I just wish that the Tcgo could better support them. Yeah,it's what we were talking about the wind pide that maybe it's genuinely sad.Yeah, yeah, definitely. So, yeah, we're talking about enough formercasts that when you play in the old formats, like they obviously don't havethe old format rules, you can't really set the rule change. So youhave to kind of figure out how to how to implement, you know,a first, because I'm the old formats you could play a supporter on thefirst. In our current rule set you can't. So how do you kindof try to balance that out? And it makes some decks just kind ofunplayable, which is the shame. There are there are some fun workarounds forsome of it, though, like if you're playing some really old formats likepre x and y, you have the no flip catcher. Yeah, andso what people have done and is, instead of playing catchers, they playedlike circulator here or repel or whatever. Right ads and just say the Pokemonthey want to bring up in the chat. I think that's like just so clever. That is really clever. That's super cool. Yeah, but youknow, I think at the at the end of the day, just fine, find whatever works for you. Yeah, you know, people keep saying weren'timpressed ended times. If I think we both recommend just, you know, Frenching out, finding the thing that keeps the Game Fun enjoyable while we'renot able to enjoy in person with all of our our pokemon brothers and sisters. Absolutely look for those tournaments if you're still interested in standard format. Imean I'll be doing some tournaments here coming up, I do. You know, again, I don't want to say that that I don't like this currentformat because, like, I enjoy Pokemon, just playing pokemon in general. Ithink like this format does have some interesting things about it. There aresome interesting things to to do and I think it is generally like exciting,even if it isn't like the most interesting format that I've ever played it,there are a lot of exciting elements to it and so, you know,I'm always happy to to play a game amongst friends and enjoy this game thatwe love. Yeah, well, said. Well, said, we're just pokemonlovers at the other day. Absolutely awesome. Well, if anyone hasquestions and chat, I feel free to drop them. While the six,nine and six time asking, does anyone think world so I want, isactually happening? I have my doubts. It's I mean it could be thekind of thing where, like the US is excluded. We're kind of seeingthat the United States is being barred from entry into a lot of Asian countries. Were falling further by. It's that we just keep falling further behind.Yeah, exactly. And so we're getting really we're getting really hammered out hereand it's kind of embarrassing on this global...

...stage to even be having this debateof like whether or not we should wear masks when we are seeing the successrate of masks and other countries just almost maybe not eliminating the problem, butcertainly like keeping it under control. And so to say that two thousand andTwenty World Twenty twenty one worlds, is it going to happen or not?I think there is like a pretty decent chance that it does happen, butI think there's also a pretty decent chance that players from the United States likeare not allowed to come and play. I could just see, or maybenot by pokemon specifically, but like if it's still held in the UK,like potentially travel band or something. I travel band from from play people comingfrom the United States. So that could be something that I think is avery real possibility of happening. Yeah, yeah, I could see that's true, which is sad, really sad, I'm sure. Jolly fine. Iasked what prevents radicate from cheese and raids? I mean nothing. Yeah, that'sthe other thing too, about these, about these cards, is like youjust have some cards that are insanely powerful against these raid array pokemon.You look it, yeah, that there's like a jot to that like flipsa coin and does the same thing and like sure, I mean, Iguess if you have those cards, then like you just ought to win,essentially, but I mean it's I mean you can bring what I mean,you could just type nine million damage and when like that's right, that's right. There's not even a damage cap, so you can do whatever you want. Really. Yeah. Yeah, at the end of the day, theraid battles, like you have to you have to use it correctly. Youknow, you have to use the interface correctly, and I guess radicate wouldbe using the interface correctly, but you have to also, you know,it's about the spirit of it, I was going to say yet to tryto make it interesting. Yeah, the spirit of the game got a beg. Yeah, for sure. Well, Gw, I've had an awesome timechatting with you. I'm really excited to see more of this new format stuffdevelop. I'll be tuning in for sure to watch you a funnel around andtabletop simulator tomorrow. Yes, for those of you who want to catch upmore on GW's new format content, be sure to subscribe to his Youtube Channelif you haven't already. A Flex Daddy righteous on Youtube and on twitter TV, and be sure to follow us on twitter as well, smiles of filesand Real John Walter and tag team Pokemon as well, just to follow thecast. We appreciate all of you guys support through Covid nineteen and we hopethat you all are continuing to stay safe and be reasonable. We're masks,not for just yourself but for the good of others, and we'll be catchingnext time base. So yeah,.

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