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Season 3, Episode 4 · 1 year ago

3-4. The Player's Cup Electric Boogaloo

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back and so is the Player's Cup! Come check out how to use your keys and how to approach this epic sequel to an already epic event.

What's up, everybody welcome back totag team, the FOMON trading card games, forerpotgasting Zeo, my name is Ralyholbt joint, as always by my good friend, JW cre. Well, Gw has O go today.It's gone, pretty good rily. I just finished doing a green tea. Herbal facemask wo life. Do you feel, like your poors have been cleanse? Do you feel like holiear? Now it was definitely a minty feeling goingon and there's till a little mince residue yeah coming off, so I would sayoverall success. It didn't it. It dried like, I would say overall success, butit like some of it didn't dry, even though we left it on for as long as thepackaging said, but then the packaging, you know it wasn't madein the United States there're a lot of typos a lot of extra spaces before commas.You love those, and so you just they question the Um, the intecitle radity, the integrity ofthe brand s. It was a fun experience, none theless! I I haven't really doneany home beauty home beautification before so. I've definitely never tried to facemask okay, M, actually D. I do have one my friendwent to Japan and got a Jigly poffece mask and brought it back. Fom Me, but I I just KINDAF, keep it for Dislay: okay, 'cause, its O fo. Well, maybe oneepisode of the future. We can just do dual face. Masks yeah, like abeautification episode, Yeah prety good. I don't! I don't know if that really ison brand 'm not going to lie okay. Well, I could be a completely offbrandepisode. We do things that we don't normally do like. Maybe we talk aboutYukio Mat, a game that day yeah. I don't I don't know. If I have a lot tosay about it, I'd have to probably do iiout of research getting it, but how's how's your day going Riley.It's going well. Certainly a lot going on and very busy lately, my friend wholives in the apartment across the way for mine got a like Wan, I say crossinglike I crosse the courtyard. She just got two little baby kittensand they're, so cute Anso II've been hanging out and playing with them M,not to ignore M O CAS B'cause. I at playing a lot with them as well, and they get quite jealous like I'll,walk back home, anera fence, yeah and mellow anwill walk up to me and she's,just like MMI, don't like that that not cool so but t is not rly od,definitely angered your cats. I feel like an angry cat, is not something I would want th just theurine and th Yeah Melo scranching. My cats, don't really do anything toocrazy, ellas more of like a passive aggression like if she's mad at me andI'm on my computer, Shell. I have a a my first motheris like right in frontof me and my second one is off to the right and a little bit behind my firstmonitor. So ormellow will do she'll, get behind the first MONTER and stickher like entire body in front of the Second Monitor. So I can't see it go. She knows they don't like that. THAT'S PRETTY UNUSUAL YEAH! I should doall the time when I'm like on phone calls at work S Alkin I'll, put likethe screen share on my second monitor Um for a because it's bigger but B.because then, if I get like a a chat notification like someone teamsMessageme over mecso teams, it won't appear on the second Oer Illi yeure Ou,the first moter Gosh, but I I always share that wator andwhenever I'm on the phone meal doesn't like that 'cause I'm not payingattention to her, but I'm still talking to people Um and so she'll, always likeget in front of the scree to move her cats are jealous men yeah they do getjealous, but il ill fin Hou all fine. I do love mykittis and I I like the new kittens a lot too anything else. Iiing going onin your life, W man, I can't say that there is 'v just been neind. I don't know if I told you this, butthe last time we talked I was thinking about getting into real estate, but nowthe the move is coating. So imaybe did talk about that a little bit in anamong us game, but h yeah, I'm I'm working towards you know, maybe doing aboot camp and and kind of getting up to speed right now on what I would look like to be in one. SoI've been doing much coding modules and things online that's been prettystimulating. I don't know that. I necessarily call it fun, because it'sfen kind of things that are a little Um, maybe uninteresting you know you're,just kind of going through the motions and learning a lot of the buildingblocks of code, but m. It certainly is stimulating, and it's H...

...it's things that I you know kind of theo repetitive process that the language of of coding is is interesting in asense to me that it can be so many different things. So I mean eer. I I obvious. Like coting, Idoit my job there you go. So it's pretty cool. Do you? What what programdo you use? Um? We you mean like language, neer language, a yeah. We codin what's called M Um. It's a it's basically only used for medical recordsoftware Um, but I I know anlike five languages right now, Oco. Itook a lot of different classes in college. It's Probbl, not major, sogotcho yeah. As far as I understand like the the languages, aren't the and all the all yeah. You know likethey're, pretty they're pretty fluid en they. I understand the core clasills,then you're going to be able to maneuver around anything yeah 'cause. Alot of it is more about, like I, I hate to say, like programatically,but like it's about understanding like programatically how these things fittogether. Riand once you understand like okay yeah. This is how I do thispiece of unctionality in this language. Then you know it's all about justfitting the blocks together and the blocks sometimes look different smell,different tastes different, but you K W they're all the same fondamentally yeahyeah. So I I've been having lot of fun with Java. That's what interestingearning interesting whyis that dolas is not. I don't like Ave thatmuch butit's, fine, really, okay yeah! I I think I've been looking at a littlebit of like Dotnad and job, and I I like the syntax a little bit more in inJava yeah, but I I mean, I suppose that everyone hastheir own per no judgment, of course no judgment, but I'm judging you I',I'm not done to you. Actually, I think it. I think it's really cool th yerefor seeing something new yeah. So Yep, I was going to say, lesslet's stumpright into it, though, so we wanted to start off today with alittle bit of a look into the next month or so of Pocamon. So for theunaware, the the Players Cup was so popular. They decided to make a sequel,so Players Cup, too, is on the horizon. Are They di? They say it was PLA. Is itPlayers Cup too officially, or is it like playerscop autumn or something Ithink it's players? Cup II I yeah O flayers got roamd the numeral to that'sright so sick. I know it looks a lot more official but for sure players CEPto starting in five days September, twenty eighth and lasting until October.Twenty sixth, so just under a months worth of pokemine that will matterwhich is pretty interesting, yeah and severone, it will matter for everyone,yeah, not just the people that have enough tr. You know tickets or Um. YouO things like that, everyone that has an online account that has logged inbefore. You know some arbitrary date that they set between itsaid, likebetween June nd, an September they'll, get those tournament keys and so you'regoing to see a lot of participation as opposed to players, cop one which isreally gay, kept by that by that ticket system yeah. So, let's SA, let's talk about how that system isevolved, so players kept one. The format was, you could enter any numberof the trading car g game online tournaments, which the requisite to do.That was the tournament tickets, Um and those tickets unfortunately, arekind of difficult to get. So some players felt like they didn't have achance. A lot of players felt like it would be basically a ticket war, and I don't want T, say players Cepeonflopped, because clearly there was a lot of participlation n. It was asuccess in the ole Um, but it was really difficult to get some playersmotivated to participate players. GEPT two by contrast, has the new tournamentkey system which are allocated to you, like Ovu, said. If you haveparticipated in put Montraninar game online in the last three months, andwhat those'll do is every player gets x, amount that about being fifty for thisplayerscoup, and I think it's one ticket for or one key fer tournamentand that's how you're going to qualify instead. So it gives everyone a levelplaying field in terms of how much one can participate in tournamentsgives everyone a level playing field. Just like you know what you're gettinggoing in, which wer not really the case with the first one, where it was veryambiguous like what that ticket system would really am out to yeah right and Ithink a lot of people an, I think, even myself, included to an extent kind ofover analyzed the amount of work that it would take. UMRGER in to the playerscom, it ended up. The bar ended up being a lot lower than you, or I reallythought, but I think the principale...

...again still kind of remains the same aslike. Well, you shouldn't really have a pay to play system in that kind of wayon an online thing. If you don't give enough people like enough time toactually prepare for that because surely therewere so there were somepeople and you look at you know big content creators that do a lot of youknow tournaments or whatever. It is m that just kind of you know use their tournment tickets asyou go, but then you have some people that just poured them and never playingtournaments and obviously we're at a huge advantage, but that is all wipetheway. The slate is completely clean for this player's Cup too, and Icouldn't be happier yeah. I'm definitely a lot more excited about itand I have actually do have quite a bit of tickets myself, but even that I felt so demotivatedecause. I thought it would be like you said we kind of overanalyze how muchpeople would be owned for this, and I just see such an Athon hocln outo tickets- and I was like this- is absurd. Like Havn' een want to be a part of that Oris, this one as much much moreclearly defined you can go at your own pace. You don't feel like you're you'recramped down by the pressure to constantly do more and more like youwere in the First Cup, so I'm really excited to get into this one. So beforewe do anything, I we can just briefly go over how the the game itself is.Looking? U We've kind of harped on this a bunch of times now, so I don't wantto send more than a minute on it. Att interniis Still Standing at the topcrushing hammer finding its way into quite a few lists. Now Book Mine,Catcher, finding its way in to pretty much ever esaution. Lest at this pointUm, I I mean we'v kind of reached the point where those two are the themonolists of the formath as stand Boe. Anything else and you're, eitherplaying them or playing specifically to beat them whicd. You Agree Tome, Iwoatd a hundred percent agree. There are some other decks that kind of fitin you. Look at the things like Pekoram. You look at the things like frostmoth,baby, bl Cephlon, you Decidui, there's a number of otherdecks that can compete as sent o Scorge, but really when you, when you look atit, probably the N, at least for me, like the most Um thehighest winningpercentages for my testing, have very easily come with ADP and andit'shertous yeah. I mean, I think, they've really set themselves apart inthe format and we've, given our thoughts, one of those decks more thana handful of times. So I don't want to spend too much time talking about it.Like I said, what I'm more interested in talkingabout is what the approach to the Players Cup as a whole will look like,and we ware kind of using about this before the cast um JTB. I don't know ifyou have any preliminary thoughts about what your approach to the Players Cupwill be like when whet. Are you going to use your tickets? How are you goingto approach like deckbuilding? What what are your thoughts having into thespecifics of this event, yeah? Well, since it is in the current format, Idon't believe that we will include any championspath in the d duration of thePlayers Cup too. We have a pretty good idea of what themedigane looks like, and so that should inform us when we bring our deckchoices and I for me I will always going into a bigtournament if it's a one time event like I'll, always focus on like threeto five decks heading into that tournament. Obviously this is a littlebit more. You kN W wide scale being fifty individual tournaments that Icould change x for everyone, but I think the whole point remains largelythe same. Is that I've been testing you know veryspecifically like five decks and I have all those decks. I D kind of know, Othe exact match up spreads of each of those decks and so heading into thePlayers Cup. I'm going to know. Okay, I want to lead with this steck and I wantto play a certain number of tournaments with you know a DP. That's that'slooking to me like the just hands down the best stack in this warmat and then,if I find that that's not working eventually I'll switch now the questionbecomes when would be the optimal time to switch decks and that's something wecan talk about in a second. But you bring up the question when should youstart, I think, that's very valid, so we have a whole month to play our fiftytournaments, and so should you begin you know and Blow Hem all at thestart. Should you space them out? Should you play everything in themiddle? Should you play everything at the ends? You know. Should you enterall these tournaments right at the end, and I think probably the at least what I'm going to do is isto to gauge the general interest and general level at the beginning. Bymaybe doing you know a couple of tournaments a day for probably thefirst week, not below all the tickets, but just kind of to accruise some dataon what other people are playing and how my deck kind of fits into this.This aonline metagame that he's largely...

...completely different than you know, acompetitive medagane right. You have to take that into account is like everysingle person that has a ptcgo account we'll get these codes, so the metagameis going to be even crazier than what it would be for, like a regionals right. So taking you know, taking it a littlebit slowly in that first week, trying to gauge what everyone's playing andwhat kind of a general metagame is and then really going into it in that inthat early second week third week and using all the tournament tickets,that's going to be my my strategy, not waiting until the end,because I think there's going to be a lot of people that do end up waitingtill the end and maybe get burned, because they're going to have to playagainst Um everyone else, that's waiting, utill the end. I have I have asneaking feeling that the beginning of the Players Cup, or that that first asecond week aroun around there like the late first week early second week, isgoing to be probably the ideal time to actually like use most of your Turmackeys yeah. I I totally agree with you about the end being like the worst timeto do it. I have a feeling I mean just generally speaking, if you're playingat the end you've the most on the line and like S it's more of an activechoice. Right like early on you know, you could just have a TCO count, seethat you have these keys and just play n early on just 'cause. You have 'em oreven midway through, but if someone's like coming in towards the end, thatmeans they know what they're trying to do. They want to get it done. So it'sGoin to be players who are probably pretty good, but we're also too lazy todo it before is which to me seems like a pretty large supset. I don't know if you agree, I thinkyou're implying that you do well. Yeah with your earlier statements, so I think the end will be kind of chaotickind of a mass. I actually think playing pretty earlyon will lead to a fair amount of success. Um. I think, even if a lot ofgood players are playing at that time, there'll be so many players that itwon't really matter 'cause. The pool will be so diluted and the same Aflis honesly I thisefirst couple of weeks um and I I don't think the medigame islike shifting anywhere. So it's not like you know it's not like gaining amedigane benefit from waiting per se. Not that I'm not that I'm likecounteracting a point of yours or anything thit's, just a point of mine, so that's Kindof, where I'm leaning is,I kinda wanted to get it done with relatively soon. If me personally, Iprobably won't actually do that in practice. I'll- probably kind of burnthem slowly throughout the month, just because I don't really have the time todegrind Hem al out at once. Unless I really sit down on like a Saturdayaserand just do it all which to me doesn't Shoun very fun, either rightright, um, but that's what I, if you're likereally trying to grind in, I would say that the earlieu're on the better yeah,I think you n less invested early on and then do you think rileyit would bebetter to you know, sit down and dedicate youknow, one day or one evening to really grinding a lot of Um your tournaments out. Or would you saythat you would rather spread them out over? You know a couple of days or aweek or two weeks I mean to me: I would I'd rather spread them out for a coupleof reasons, one just because for me time, constrain is like an issue, but on a larger scale. I think Bernoutis like real and if you're just playing six hours straight of these C, Otournaments and you're waiting like arbituary amounts of time between everround Um, I mean it would be more than six hours. I think to blast your fiftyof those a lot so en, if you're going through,like eight hours of tournaments and yeah, like you, R, regional ascomparable to that but y know, you're going to get burnt, owt and TC Jo, isnot the same as playing in real life, and you don't have like the energy oflike hanging out with your friends the whole time like you. Do it a regional,so it's it's GOINGTO KINDOF get grating in my opinion and I really enjoy likeplain t and blan go, but I know if I'm just sitting there like playing for awhile, eventually I'll, stop paying us much attention. That's ture, and this is something aspecific to Tcdo, because you know I'm on my computer, I'm doing other stufftoo buif. I ae NTRACK minded when you'replaying Ppsijo, no, and so I'm probably doing other stuff like I'm going to getless and less interested as my day goes on, Yeu I'll be halfhazardly doing whatI think is appropriate, but maybe not it isn't really like thoughtfully done. So I I say to spare yourself thetrouble of having to worry about that even and just take it at the pace itfeels appropriate to. If I, if I could actually make a macro recommendation toeveryone listening, I would say to start early on burn a couple ofthickets a day if you feel motivated go for more but like don't force yourself,int, any pigeon hol just do what feels right for you and you'll probably getyour inbesters oll right right, th, th,...

...that's good and, and ultimately I thinktoo. We are saying that this player's come too likely will be morecompetitive, given this more equal playing ground, but there's still two hundred and fifty sixopen slots m to make kind of this, this second phase of the tournament. So itshould be relatively easy if you put your best foot forward Um throughoutthe duration of your you know fifty tickets like it, it should beattainable for anyone that really truly wants to do it M, and so don't thinktoo hard. I mean take like O r recommendations and you know ultimatelywe're just speculating, so it it kind of doesn't really matter. If you haveyou know another take on it, then by all means you want to wait till thelast second and we've been saying: Don't do that like by all meanns, dothat if that's what you feel is going to get you a better result, I think tooRaly. We should talk about what to do if you or how you're going to go aboutselecting decks, because I think there are some people that might m. You knowplay a tournament with a deck and then it loses in the first rown and thenthey might immediately switch decks and then they might, you know, lose themagain in the first round and then they might switchnexts again and then theremight also be other people that just play one deck for the duration of theirtournament tickets. They'll just play one deck, four, Fifty Tournament keys m.do you have any thoughts on what makes sense in terms of whether ornot you would switchdeks? And what would those reasons be for you? Forswitching decks, Um there's a couple of reasons I could seefor me. If I I could even consider myselfjust playing a Dec, I just reallyenjoy, and I think it's semidecent and switching it to that occasionally, asopposed to just going for like Medamontolis Um. Generally speaking, I think you shouldavoid making snap judgments based on the results of individual tournaments,so you Kno, there's always going to be afair amount of aregy going to these an Argy, maybe isn always the appropriateword. But you know you don't know who's going to come into these individualtournaments out and given hour. You don't know what decks they're going tobe playing. You don't know if they're going to be like hard teching againstcertain decks, and so using individual or even small subsets of tournaments toinform, like your overall performance, is kind of a a downward slope. I wouldsay it's a slippery slope. If you have a deck, that's consistentand you know it works, that's going to be the real key 'cause. There's goingto be so many factors that are out of your control in these individualtournaments. So you don't want to be like. Oh you know, my at p DC cut, getsoff Turne to alter creation or turn one alter creation. You know ninety percentof the time, it God just completely pooped on by this UH random fairy, attacker adeck orsomething y. You know don't get immediately discouraged by like staythe Corse for a little bit, make sure there's no macro meatow trends like andit's especially hard if youre losing the first round 'cause, you could loseto the person who end up like winning the tournament and they just had areally good deck and and prayed really well Um, and that's just your luck ofthe draw, there's no seeding, you know you R, you get what you get rown andthen I I think particularly too, and a best of one format where going first orsecond can really make a break either deck. It's important to just keep that inmind too, is like. If you happen to go, you know you're forced to go first andyour your deck of choice, thats sent to scorge. You know, obviously, that's nota good place to be in and you lose. You know a few tournaments really early.Well, if you're really committed to playing CENSI Scorch, then again giveit a little bit more time to let that even out in terms of you know where youstart and how far ar you get in that tournament, I think for me Um looking at how many tournaments itwould take me for like bad results to influence my deck choice. ITD, probablybe about ten like I am testing before I go to the turnamits, I mean that's abig point as well like don't use the tournaments to try to figure out what'sto play, go into the tournaments, knowing what you're going to play likebeing confident in a deck that you think. Yes, you know this could win theplayer Scop. This could win a regional. You know this could do well at a at areal event and then use the the tournaments as your Um. You know, as asthe culmination of all that testing that you've done right and so probablyabout ten or so tournaments. I would give myself before I would considerswitching decks and I think I don't know. Maybe you have some thoughts onthat, but I think that that's probably a good threshhold, like twenty percentof the the tournament goes by or you know, twenty percent of your ticketsare gone. I think that's probably a good time to stop and reflect on howyou've done either with the deck you know reflecting whether or not theskill level is appropriate for you and...

...whether or not you know you shouldconsider switching to a deck that maybe is better against what you've beenseeing. Yeah, I would say somewhere in the like five to ten range, is about rightM, it's hard to say, because if you lose round one, you miss out on a lotof insight about how the rest of the tournament looked. But let's say I mean,let's say even you're, making it to the finals of all these tournaments and soyou've seen three rounds of all these tournaments, and you know your fivetournaments in and you notice like consistent trends in terms of how theare looking or built. You know you might not switch tax, but you mightchange like a couple of cars and be like okay. You know there's clearly alot of this deck, so I'm going to play, wait and see hammer or something you know bee thought at the same likebe rigid and confident in your decisions, but also be thoughtful aboutwhat that decision is and like why it should have volved. You know it: It's adefinitely a balancing act. You gotta, you gotta, be spinning these differentplayes and whenever one starts e tumble, you gotta, you know, Start Spinninginagain. You know right right, ultimat. Ultimately, I think Raly, there's nosilver bullet that we can give to any listener. You know, but you're alwaysfree to. You know message me. If you have questions on how your performancehas been going, I mean I'm always an open book to try to give any amount ofadvice that I can, if you're really struggling with a certain problem or acertain deck or something like that, but ultimately be confident in the DECthat you've tested heading into the tournament. I think that's just thebiggest piece of advice, because I think there are a lot of players outthere that I know that are going to be discouraged. Maybe they yea like losingthe first round, but their deck is very capable of carrying them to the PlayersCup, but they losin the first round of like the first two tournaments and thenthey're looking to immediately like switch up their whole list. You knowteck it out for certain things that just don't make sense or or just changethe deck entirely, and I don't think that's really the way to go. I thinkyou should trust your intuition trust your testing and give each dack, or atleast give your first stack, the fair shake that it needs to produce goodresults. Just definitely don't tack for Madparty. When you see a Ra you're, definitely going to try toqualify with mad pardy. Ah, I think I could do it all right. That's a challenge! I that actually leads me into anotherquestion, though hisis last thing I want to do with the players got yeah, so last players Cot people, thought thepoint. Threshal would be really high. It clearly wasn't obviously there's more level setplaying gown. I imagine there'll be like more universal participation. Doyou have any idea what that threshold will look like? Do you think it will ex,I think, obviously it'll be higher than before. Do you think it'll besignificantly higher? Do you think it will be? You know a small percent increase. Imean it's hard to say I have to imagine that it'll be significantly higher butUM. It's I mean it's tough, to give anestimate. I I think, we'll probably see you know within the first week like ifwe can extrapolate a little bit better II like thy first peap will be so hardI feel like so many people will be. You know, they'll be on Monday and lastweek and like rapit, I don't know man, it's really tough'cause. We haven't seen anything like this before so like trying to make itinformed opinion about. This is really hard, butI think you know there will be probably a bell curve right of of participationlevels, so you'll probably have a lot of people at the beginning. A lot ofpeople at the end and I'l probably dip soligtly in terms of participation, butI think e still should be able to extrapolate from that and from thepostings on the site kind of a week by week. How many points like you shouldbe at to qualify in those top two, fifty six yeah it's. I definitely thinkit'll be messy as you get like towards the bottom of that Um right it'll beclose. I think. The reason I ask is because what I,what we found the first player Scop, was people who, honestly probably mightnot haveeven, been trying to make it ended up making it, because so manypeople would like give it up so early yeah. I'm curious. If you think a similarthing will happen. I don't know about that. I think just being able to havethat again. Level playing field is very, very important and h should yield somepretty interesting results in in the sense of how many people would continueto play like it would be interesting to see that kind of data on how manypeople use all of their tickets and how many people that you know played duringthis week. You know how well they di that would be early and people knowingus the kind of data we won't get...

...horse, and- and I mean I don't evenknow that it's like on pokamonts and like if they even have a tracker forthat kind of stuff, but it'd just be interesting O. I would love to see thatkind of stuff too yeah 'cause. Then I mean you think about it too Players Cuptoo, is you know there there's a thoughtthat there will be more in the future, its inplied yeah we're not seeing kind of aslowdown in corona that we maybe could hope for, and so you know for theindefinite future, the game will likely be online. So you know this'll be a good litnus testfor this online tournament format and being able to ye try to track how itgoes from this tournament will be huge to inform you know, potential futuretournaments agreed agree. I'm excited to see itOnfo, that's for sure. Ayyou can expect us to give us the lowdown as far as howwe're doing as well as tips and tricks for you all, as the Players Cup toprogresseves. Moving on, though we have our card ofthe week presented by JW this week, s Jw, you got me all hiped up what yougot cooked up for us. Did I get you hyped up for it? No, but I got hypedcasete you had mentioned that year had already picked it up. Yes, yes! Well, II'm a huge fan of this this card, not necessarily thisPokamon to Oh lucky, I know N, I mean I like the pokmine. It's not it's, not the best fokmine ever okayanyway, but I loved his heart for a lot of different reasons. But my cart of the week for this weekis a prime okay. It is the I I mean I I don't even know ifit's arguable it's the like best, prime, in terms of consistency, oapower, Iknow what it is now it's an electric tyme. It got one eyeball that ismagnazone prime. I love magzom prime, with its pocapower magnetic draw drawuntil you have six cards in your hand, so this was the era you know when, whenHargold soul, silver came out, this was right. After we had a format that wasum pretty it had clayedall pretty entrenched in the format and deckconstruction yeah, and so you go from Clata, which is a stronger power right.You put two on the bottom of your deck and drow up to six M, but magnetic drawkind of filled that void that we had went by losing clatol being able todraw until you had. Six in your hand, was just awesome. 'cause you were ableto you know I mean that's, that's just agreat ability so and then it also had a blasephylongxtype attack for thoe that that weren't around back in the hardgold soulesoverera, magazone also had a low spern attack. Put as many cards attached,topogamizs you like in the law zone and it does fifty times the number ofenergy in the lawsone. So I mean you look at like like let's just comparebeseflon and magnazone like Ma Blasefhelon came out what six yearslater or something like that and still had that same damage potential thatmagnazone did back in the early twenty tens, and that's just crazy to me tothink that you know the attack is essentially exactly the same: Yeah, theonly ndifference being the the counts, the cost. You know, cost one lightning,an one: colorless, IM, agazone to TAC, actually better N S, Wat's thatmagazons tacks actually slightly better 'cause. They can't get any energy offany PROVEO. That's true! That's true! It doesn't have to just be fires, andthat was a big thing. When Magazon was around Ecause, you could play thingslike rescue energy m. You could play magnazone with with fire cards. Therewas a tiflotion that you could get things back with. There was mbor whenblack o white set came out. There were a lot of ways to play. magnazone thatwasn't just you know, it wasn't one track mind kind of deck and I actuallygot my first regionals top eight with magnazone. In my second tournament everI played magnazone just and again speaking to the power of the card. Iplayed magnazone with vile plume, because I thought I thought you know what this was mydeck theory at the time I was like: okay, what's like the best card in theformat, why don't I put it with the second best card in he and like makethis wacky deck, and so I did that and I really did believe back then Magnazinwas the best gard in the format you had this insane draw potential. That wasreally the main reason for playing it, but then it was also a sweeper of sorts.You know in the Lake Game You could start hitting those huge numbers if youreally needed to take out a threat on the opponent side of the board yeah andthen ye he had vioplune, which of course, just locks everything down. Sothat was a really cool dact that I had created that I invented that like gotme way farther than I should have gone was super hilarious and it just alwaysmakes me remember: magazone super...

...fondly yeah magazon prime, is one of myfavorite cards too, and it was before I even started playing. It was just sucha cool card. I actually have the Magna boreworldsteck Um, the mwor magazine, Prime Ysheram, andit played Um Jack strictwy as Allegen as well iwasso broken. That cart was sobroken, yeah that that was inisinall. EA nood really like played it. Thatmuch though it was the thing that carly so good yeah that wasn't even reallylike that popular then like it. It was popular enough to you know, win world,but it wasn't like it was it wasn't like ad p s now, you know justeverywhere. It was pre m kind of unusual. I guess thething is it's like? Yes, it can take the extraprize. I amfor the uninformed reuays, an daxis legend Ori, think it's Azit Um. It willtake an extrarprise with its ability. It dies one fifty damage so body, it'sbody, Boddy, yeah, Budy Um. It will knock out pretty much anything in frontof it m. It does either one forty or one fifty and it so take anextrapriarthe Si. The downside, though, is that magazone can just ca it backwith thre energy. Then it takes an additional fricecuardfor caing a legend. So it's a little awkward Um Yeah. That's like my favorite D, Dec ofSolitaire. Whenever I'm like cooking food or something I get on mymagnaboard deck and to solitaire it 'caus, it's so Funyou, just se, youdraw the cards, you lot e, the stuff Kno E. I mean it. It really is amazing.How versal that that card was you played it with Mbor played withTyflotian, you could play with Kingdroy. You could play it with Yanmega. Youcould play it with vile glume. It was just the perfect card because it had-and it's US energy that we haven't seen a long time and fireflying fire bringsit up in the chat just this great drawability, with a very, veryreasonable and powerful attack. That's you know it it's good. I don'tnecessarily think that it's overpowered, you know it does a lot of damage. Youhave to get rid of the energy forever. So I think there is some balance tothat, but you very rarely wish you get allsix with just magnesin right right, just n an amazing card. I I love it somuch yeah I mean for the more modern player is, is still like a little bitdate of an example relatively speaking, but imagine if actillery had knuckleimpact. You know like Thatso, that's what we're working with here,yeah right or it'd, be like if Zatian's ability didn't end your turn. You know like Ye h, honestly, honestly,yeah, so so fun goell. Thank you for JRD. I lovethe Hart Golds, also over Eri, gards superfine they're awesome, ther re,despite being some of the uglier like secret, rares or or rares. I guess with the primes kind ofthat close up view. I think it brought a lot of interesting stuff to the table.They definitely did so, let's jump into our last topic forthe day before questions, and that is the upcoming set release on this Friday.Champions Pash so for the uniformed Chancyan chapions path is the QuonocoBona set for the year every year. Pegamon will do like an additional setaround this time we had hidden face. We had shining legends, UM and JACPIES passthis. I new asiteration of that. We got a couple F new cards, some refrend old cards, theshiny charzards and via and Rainbow Chars R VMAC for the collectors outthere and Aisa it's a fun little rop in the pokamound trading card, Dame Worldd s ther anything your especially excited for champion's, Fath Um. I Ithink the charsards both look beautiful. I just want to say that, like I, theolder I get, the more I understand collecting I used to not be that intocollecting and then recently I've. Just there have just been cards. I showedyou earlier today. I bought the lanticular Deoxis from a few episodesago. I was like it just. It was a card that you know they came on sale and Iwas like it just seems you know really Os and I don't often do that kind ofstuff M in terms of buying cards. But I understand now why people do it,because the the shiny charsare just looks amazing in the and like theRainbow Rar Vnax like looks so good and then there's another card coming outsoon. The PEKACHUVEMAC Li losing. I love that yeah I'm getting, and so Ilike really digging the art that they're coming out with Youre hrecently and- and I can understand that you know people just want to get theirhands on those charsards. They look awesome. I will say for all theeighttimes: I've ragged on bmaxes they'd have really nice art on the whole, likeall of teaxes look supergill,...

...so I can't hate them for that. Arethere any of the new cards that you think might have splash the guard of arthe dread? Andnaw yeah weeweere ing a little bit yeah. We were talking alittle bit about those Um. I do like the dreadnaw. I think it probably goesinto an ad p style deck. Just replaceing, xaustion Um. It has alittle bit more health, which would be the reason youwould want to play it over Asahian. You know in the mirror match. Azahian canjust get you know, one shot in return by an opposing Xaution, so m,potentially dreadnaw gives you a little bit more stability for like a mirrormatch. Um Gardi war seems fine, like seems good,I'm interested for sure Um, but really I mean you're you're acollector. I think, if you're buying the set in bulk for sure yeah, I I tendto agree, I don't think there's any car that really sticks out in the sethonestly. The car that sticks out the most of me is that like mysterious canor whatever Tla the one that heals is like yeah,the fact as the secret errors is so funny to me that I kindof just want one yeah for sure. It's like one of thefoice gards. It's like it's there's some specific name. What's it called it's not like stinky tin can, but it'slike something just like really disgusting yeah. It's got like an awfulname. I I think it's so funny. I think theart on it is very funny. The fact at t has e seceair is extra funny, so Ikindo just want one of those yeah. It's like suspicious can nay be suspicious. Are you looking it up? I'm trying yeah, so I had pulke each other earlier. Ishouldave shouldhave, kept it open. That's! Okay, Lookin! I'M! Looking S! Oh strangecanned, food change, canthat! So yeah, that's better than anything. I wouldhave ever thought of. That's so good. That is so good. That's definitely myfavorite card in the set honestly that Wass, like close ish tobeing playable, sure sure more than some of the otherssure yeah I mean I mean there are a few other interesting things. You know.Obviously all the vs are going to be somewhat vviable in the sense that theyjust have enough health to like potentially survive enough turns to wina game, but yeah I mean it. It's an interestinglittle set that Uh. That certainly won't make that much of a splashcompetitively. I think there's a lot of things that you don't need in terms ofcompetitive play, but I think one thing that we do need to talk about thatit's.A little item that is in the set is the Rodum phone look at the top hive cards and chooseone card you find there and then put it on top of your deck. So that's a littleconsistency boost card that could be pretty interesting, yeah, it's kind ofcool. If you play like your anger on your deck kind of a Micargo Ticambo where you youdraw like the top the card that you choose Um right, it's it works, bast,an cards that are probably like jampacked with consistency. GRANDA. Youknow you play a Ronof Pone Esranger to draw, hopefully one of your high countitems, t sird or cars. It's really easy to find yeah. I I do Kinda like thecard. I don't know if it'll see an extreme amount of play, but I think ithas potential. I mean yeah. I kind of Rem reminds me of trainer's' mail andsomething that we've been missing in this Mormatt. Specifically, is thatitem based consistency? We lost acrobike yeah. I was thast about thesale, we a AL, the other cards and so m that to me is a way to introduce a little bit more item,basdraw another card that I've seen some players really talk about,especially at the beginning of this farmat Um wherei players werediscussing. Deciduy was that, well maybe you know there oildl be a card inthe future. That is a little bit better in ultaria having that same kind ofability that Decidui has where it can't be damaged by Pokman, Viarpogmon chx andthe difference there is. That is the stage one as siduit being a stage too,and so maybe there's a little bit more viability with the wall SK Strategy,you look at certain decks like hi and rundecks like a greedent, forexample, you know not that greed and saw anyplay in this format, but you also have to think, like the difficulty insetting up a Decidui was certainly one of the hindrances to a deklike greedingbeing successful, and so you looked to ad just a few more walls like that,something that I welcome. I think that's a good thingfor the game we've seen diigy do pretty. Well all things considered in thiscurrent format, and so I welcome you know an easier decidui like a way toget out something that has that same ability. That's been super strong inthis warmat and just being able to get...

...out a little bit more consistently. Hehad to wait for the HOOPA and Wa for the Hoopah Yeah, the basic with thesame yeability right that'll, come towards the end of theblock, though right yeah, right, right, yeah, I I think eleris cool definitelyeasier to splash in to Daxthan Decidui. Yes, I mean that goes withthat thingright, yeah! No! Now I I think it's still as the problem where there arecertain tacxs that wall strategies are still ill equippedto beat. U, namely thinking of stuff likeCentascorse or at P, with one prizors sure, but still cool. I I want to seemore alternative shatitis rise up over the Courseis metagaine and I think, ascards are injected into it m through the steff that are coming out,including champions bat that'll become more and more of a thing: Duany otherchampion's path, cars catch your eye, nothing that I particularly like thosewere the cards that I was either really excited about myself or haveheard about that. I think, have some amount of idality cool, so let's justjump right in then to viewer questions. So if you do have a question and you'rewatching live on, twitch feel free to drop it in the chat. We'll answer acouple more before we HO offerday. As always, we appreciate your yourship andlistenership. If you're listening on itunes feel free to leave a review, ithelps us atellite and we'll get right into the questions. Now so miroed ofasking about the Ulterian Championspath Yep, there is an ulterio like esaid. Ithas a very similar ability to deadvise only different in name where it is safefrom Pokomon, VN gx, so cout cower and Weare Eigt p. what's that coward Frra, I don't laythat Torot O I they do play the Tou. I no that'sunlucky. I mean H, we're looking at you know,championsbath coming out in a couple of days and th. We also have vivid voltagecoming out here in what the December or November sat so afesets. I I haven't really seen too much from vivid voltage that I amgeeked about that. Should you know flip the forman on its head by any means, but still you know new cards more cards,always nice, always nice to have yeah,apparently they're doing at twenty fifth anniversary set to in Finr inFebruary on Pok Monday Um, some years wit that'll be yeah exactly yeah. I H.I can't I can't wait. I really m enjoyed you know when they hadevolutions come out. Thete was the what twentieth anniversary, Um theevolutions and generations and all they both came out, and then you know theyhad some mre products like the during the fifteenth anniversary they had likea Pikichu product, or was that also twentieth anniversary? Do you rememberthe Silver Pekachu? The silver ficacho was fifteenth, yeah, thwas, fifteenth,Okay and then you know, they've just had different little special things.That are absolutely amazing. I have loved all the kind of promotional itemsthat they've done for the anniversary, so really excited to see what they havein store for us here with the twenty fifth, I just O, there's a CoolpecacuGard that Pecichu v Looks Insaneroi, love,Pikachive, Mac man, hes thb. He looks great also. I know they both Lik go,but the Venax is just so big yeah for sure for sure. We also have a questionhere from Ryan. How do you feel about the players? COPH changes. T are youplanning to participate? I think the changes if I had O grade them on like a fiveout of five star scale, I would say five I mean it was exactly what weneeded in terms of you know, everyone being equal and everyone playing at thasame level. The tournament keys, great idea, perfect execution, I think, beingable to give every single person fifty and that's there. You know all lotedamount. I think it's going to work out really well in terms of are we planningto participate? We definitely are. I cannot wait to orers entally stream,some of the playerscub- I probably won't do all of it like I'll. Probablydo most of my players Cup participation just on my own offstream, but yeah, I'mstoke to participat. I can't wait to UH. Can't wait to compet sounds like you'reafraid of shreetncycres NA yeah dude, I'm so afraid of stream,snipers, Ro yeah. I'm definitely looking forward toit too, but nobody's allowed to play mad party counters all ladder or on theTargo, while I'm doing it yeah yeah, you heard o here, nobody can playagainst Riley. At least you can't play AP, let's see Meredaf with the rise of nonVGX tx recently like mad party and...

Arropot. Do you think these decxsactually have a chance in the metter or are they currently just here to, as itis they're pretty much capped at ter, two or lower, because ADP just be sumso consistently yeah I mean en, and the thing is likethe decks like that always will sacrifice some amount of consistency tothe two prize and onwards decks so stuff like et turn o this, even thoughin theory it should have rough match. UPS against these one price tacks thatcan ont totwot co atternatises. It doesn't always end up that way becausethey are just so consistent and we'll do the same thing. They want everysingle game or close to everything we well but well, gray, Raley. I thinkthat will conclude our episode for this week. It's been another good one, goodup good out man yeahwell. Thank you so much to everyone who watched again,thank you to azo for the Rad as we got towards the end of this sream here andstick around if you're watching live and you'll get c, JW Stin apot. Thank you again for watching guys we'lltalk to you soon.

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