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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast
Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 24 · 1 year ago

3-24. Goodbye World's 2021!

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back, but the World Championships in 2021 is out... come listen in to the tale of scalpers, a pandemic, and a Player's Cup.

Yo, what is up? Guys? Welcome back to tag team, the POKEMON trading card games premier podcasting duo. My name is Riley Hulbert, joined as always by my scrum to de emptious friend JW Curry Wall, Mr Jw Haws. It going and it's going pretty well. Riley, how are you? It's going great, man, it's going great. Any any new news in the world? A Riley New News? Not particularly new. I've been reading a new book recently. If you've been listening to the cast, you heard me reading that thousand page home last month and my goal for the year was to read a book every month. I'm reading the sequel, the one hundred page home, this month and it's been really good so far. I've stayed up kind of late last night's reading. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. Yeah, I mean I yeah, reading is always something I'm like, yeah, I should, I should do that more, and then and then tick tock calls. Yeah, and I just you know, I spend my spend my free hour just scrolling. Yeah, and I kind of have like a very regimented day. Went on a work day. Usually, honestly, like the Wednesdays when we record, is one of my most breakaway days from that regiment where, you know, I wake up, I work, I go to the gym and work out, I'm back, I make dinner and eat said dinner and then I'm like done, you know. And so by that I go through all that and then like also start reading. It gets kind of late and, you know, then it just bleeds in like morning or I'm tired, but sure, kind of a messy process. They're sure. I hear you. I hear you. Yeah, I also I don't know if I mentioned this on the cast yet, but I have resolved to growing out my hair. I think I did mention it briefly. My goal is to look like Aaron yeager from attack on Titan with his man. Okay, so, yeah, that's like what I'm shooting for right now. I was just watching this cool video. It has nothing to do with your hair, but it was about attack on Titan where they made like irl swords. Oh, that's you know how you could like the breakaway swords or whatever. I suppose I might have seen that too. Yeah, it's pretty I love this like weapons channels. I guess that like make all the fantasy that you don't talk about. Yeah, yeah, no, like they do like the lightsaber. I. Have you seen that? Yeah, lightsabers, when you million views, ors, cameras, like all those kind of y yeah, yeah, I always wonder when they're making them, like where do they get their money? Like is it can't just be off youtube like add her. I mean maybe it can. I just seems like a sponsored they usually I like something. Maybe they're sponsored. Yeah, but where do they get like the initial funding? Like is it just two guys in their garage? And then they imagine a lot of it gets big and kind of start as like passion projects, right, or like maybe they just have a lot of extra steel or something, so they make a mule in near and then it's like that blows up and people like, oh, there's a market for this content, like let's sponsor Chrson or whatever. Sure, I don't know. That could be fair. Yeah, it's a perfect, perfect video to drop like a manscaped at it or something. Yeah, you know, I know what you're saying. Yeah, what about you, though? It's been going on. It's just been a lot of coding and I've been managing to fit in some Players Cup tournaments and then we've been looking at houses. So if you've been following any of my other content on Youtube, you'll know about the house hunt. We've actually put in three separate offers on three different houses and they've all been one was over the asking price and it just got rejected. Somebody else like went higher than we did. The other one, they were asking like a little much and we just couldn't come to terms. And then the last one that we just saw. My wife is really upset. Well, not not upset, she's a little disappointed. But there was the it was basically just a wide open, wide open living room that like went right...

...into the kitchen, so there's no kind of divider, and then there was a vaulted ceiling so we could have put like a loft above the kitchen and she was really excited for, you know, what the space could do and how we could host people and things like that. But it ended up apparently selling for like way more than comparable houses in the area. So it just wasn't yeah, it was like tenzero or Fifteenzero more than comparable house is in the area and we thought we put in a competitive offer, but you know, it's just when you're going against people that are willing to spend, you know, fifteen more than you, it's going to get a little difficult. So I think that's true for a lot of things. Yep, Yep, pretty much, pretty much. So it's been fun. We've had, you know, is our first kind of home. So we're hoping to actually buy a home within, I don't know, six months. There's like a tax credit in Ohio that we can take advantage of if we're less than four years out of a master's degree. So it'd like time is of the essence. We could get a little bit of money back. So we're on the hunt and we got a good realtor who's really, you know, looking out for us and knows what we want. So we're hopeful. Well, I wish you the best of luck in that endeavor. I mean we got some kind of chat even alluding to the housing market being a little bit crazy right now. Well, and and the thing is, I mean it's hard to say when it's going to go down. You know, that's the that's the problem right now is just that this might be the lowest, you know, it's certainly going to be the lowest, the lowest interest rate that will probably ever be able to get, and so yeah, it's just it's it's very interesting. It's very interesting. We should have bought a house like six months ago. Yeah, very sensible time to buy a house. Yep, exactly. So, anyway, on to pokemon. We've had, of course, players cut two, our players come three. Excuse me. That has been, you know, a topic on twitter, a topic on facebook groups and certainly something that I've thought a lot about. Riley, I know that you haven't really played too many keys, but kind of walk me through like you're very, very limited experience, and then maybe I can chat about where I'm at in the process. Yeah, so I if you listen to last week, I was intending to get like thirty keys done this last weekend really just go through most of them, and I never really gotten the zone. And so I started playing a couple games on Saturday, which was my intended like sit down and go through my keys day, and I was playing Pe k Ram, you know, true to my word, and I hit an ATP and, you know, all of a sudden just everything falls apart like, you know, whipping switches, wiving energies and like I and I'll take responsibility. There's probably things I did wrong within there at like contributing factors, but it just was a little bit short and that was just super frustrating. The game was really tilting. So I took a quick break refresh my mind. You know, you I talked about the other week how like you shouldn't go tilted into your next game. Yeah, so I refreshed, I came back. It won my first round pretty handily, the peak, and then the next round I played think it was a colossal. It was like some fighting deck. I could pull up my cool doc but it was a fight geting deck of some sort. It might have might have even been ex could real. I think it was like more rogue than colossal, but it was some like miserable matchup and the MEWTWO's didn't get me there, and so I'm just like man, now I'm extra tilted because I just took this break and I came back and then this is also terrible. So yeah, I think it was either two or three keys or I'm just like I need to stop for the day. I'm just going to be frustrated if I played more pokemon. You know, recenter myself and try it again later. Yeah, unfortunately, like I was just talking about, my work day, is usually run kind of long and kind of late by the time I got through all my routine,...

...so I haven't played a lot during the week. I do intend to get through that thirty this weekend and then kind of plow them out from there. So still intending to get them all done, obviously, but that really rough start. See what players cut to. I have like good momentum at the start. So when I ran into like those rougher games, right, like, I had that energy to carry me. But when you start off really it's kind of like going oh one or hundred and one in a tournament. You just like yeah, do I got want to continue this? That's how that's how I felt. And granted I've been no one and like made day too. Yeah, right, right, yeah, it's not. It's not really actually that bad. You know, I've had tournaments very similarly that. That where it's like you start off Oto, you're in the pits, but then you just kind of ride it and and make it on. So yeah, certainly anything can happen. And I mean if you have fifty keys, is right, so you definitely on a head. I have plenty of keys left right, like I could get well over two hundred points if I doesn't win every game. Yeah, exactly, exactly, out and forehead. But tell me about your games. Well, it's been it's been great. I mean Players Cup two was a nightmare. I will just say that I felt discouraged. I felt extremely kind of at a loss for what to do. I wasn't really vibing with any deck. I was kind of switching between ATP and Peek a Ram and Luke metal and it just nothing really stuck for me and I was, I don't know, maybe didn't play as well as I could have and I know just a lot of things. And then I made it my goal this player's Cup to just be very diligent about at least controlling what I could control and just saying, Hey, I'm gonna I'm going to push this out. Yeah, I'm going to have every every instance of a bad matchup or every instance of bad variance or bad prizes, like I'm just going to push that aside. What I can control is going to be just in game mechanics and sequencing and then checking prizes for every single game, and that's kind of given me like tangible proof, I guess, that I have been doing all that. I can to win the Games, and so it's paid off so far. I'm on a like a very nice clip, expecting, with the clip that I'm at, I'm expecting to hit a hundred thirty points right now. I got my nice little spreadsheet up, but twenty keys played and at two point six points per key, so I'm at fifty two total points. I was kind of setting that goal of hitting a hundred. I felt like a hundred I could hit it, I'd feel very confident about making it into the next day and I still think that that's probably true. I feel like the lowest that we've seen is in like the S. I think that's the cutoff right now for top to fifty six. So if I can make to a hundred, feeling great. I'm on past to hit a hundred thirty, which would be amazing. So it's been. It's been a really nice tournament so far. One of my weaknesses, I guess one of my strengths, has been that I've made it out of the first round in every tournament except to so far. So I've won the first round in eighteen of the tournaments. I felt like for me that was something that didn't happen a lot in the last Players Cup, where I was losing a lot in the first round. I don't know, I don't know what I could attribute that too, and I don't know why I can attribute this success in this players cup. But for some reason I've just been winning the first round, which has been a huge, like boost of confidence, because I can walk away from the turn being like, okay, I get you know, one point from sorry, that's that's just nice. And then the on the flip side of that, the struggle for me has been losing in the finals. So I've made finals in twelve of the twenty keys, but I've only won five of those and so obviously I'd rather take, you know, a finals win then making it out of the first round, because it's, you know, an additional point essentially. But it just seems like when I get to that final, those matchup. I'm going to attribute that to variance, but I just haven't been able to convert as much as I'd like to in the top two so well, I mean two point six. That's a pretty good...

...ratio there. I mean yeah, that's well on pace to hit that hundred point goal that we keep talking about. Talk to me about tracking prizes. First off, I'm curious, like what's your mechanism to do that? Do you use any like the software? Do you take physical notes? You just keep them in your head? And second like, how do you plan to translate that into real life play, depending on how you do that? Yeah, I mean, obviously in tournament play and in real life play are very different terms of tracking prizes. It's very easy. It's very easy in an online setting to find those prizes because everything is it's not jumbled. You know, everything is right there kind of where you need it. So yeah, I've I think that this would be a skill that at least a habit of something where I like, I'm going to think about it every single game that I play. In real life it's going to be harder, obviously, so I'll have the practice that kind of physical searching through a jumbled deck, but it's translated here pretty well. Some of the mechanics that I've been using are like I'll write it down. I probably won't ever use any sort of software. Maybe I will, maybe I will, but at least for now I've been just writing things down or keeping them in my head and it's again, like you said, worked out pretty well, we talked about on the last cast using prize knowledge to your advantage, and that's kind of like the next step of okay, well, you know your prize is. Now what? And so there have been a couple of games where I've been thinking about, okay, I have my drive, I have a couple of draws supporters in the prizes, so I should actually take this knock out here to guarantee that I can do something on the next turn. You know, there have been those sorts of moments where checking the prizes and then being able to use that information has helped me, maybe not win the game, but at least make more informed decisions, which, you know, certainly contributed in some way to to winning the game. Absolutely absolutely. So do you plan to take like physical notes and real life events when those eventually become a thing again? or I've never really done that, but I think like the older I get, probably the more beneficial just having seriously seriously, like I'm slows. You know, the mind slows a little bit, and I havent you here in your mid twenty exactly. So yeah, I could see taking physical notes. It does get a little daunting and stressful at times because there's that stress of, you know, somebody else is waiting for you to finish and it takes a little bit more time I'm in real life than it does online. But you know, I just need to get over that. You know, I'm pretty much over that. I kind of just don't care what other people think of me. So I took physical prize notes at the tournament. I played whacky smacky, and the way I usually did that was I would shorthand like all the cards. So sure you know I had like a two letter abbreviation that would make sense to me as far as like what the card is. Yeah, you know, that's really interesting because I think you technically can't do that. You can't write in codes. I mean you can, you can have like, I don't know, a B for acrobike or something, but you can't like write in a different language or something that someone couldn't understand it hum okay, okay, yeah, because I always thought that you had to it had to be very obvious to a judge what you were writing. Maybe so, I don't know. I mean I don't know that the official ruling. Yeah, I don't know where the line is right, like yeah, you know, I guess I would have to talk to a judge about that. Like what is the actual line between like codifying versus like shorthanding? Right, sure, yeah, exactly, exactly. So, yeah, interesting thing to think about. Maybe we can get some get some Intel from anyone that's listening...

...to the castle. Is a judge how you would rule that. But it's been a good it's been a good run come back to player's Cup and I think I've pretty consistently seen outside of the rogue decks. I've consistently see Senna, scorch at turn it is ATP and Pika and with Peka being among the least played of those four. And so saying you're just the Meta is just kind of coalescing. I think the people that are trying to win are going to play one of those four decks and that has been pretty much all I've all I've seen amongst you know, contenders. I've had a few like breathers, which has been really nice. Things like I played in the second round like a Pikachu v Max deck. That was pretty sweet. I played I played just today I played a gang Aar Mimic. You almost our deck. That just like wow, do it's been pretty good. I've had a couple of those breather games, which has been really nice. There you go, there you go. But generally speaking, again, send U Scorch returns ATPC Pica, haven't really seen too many colossal or x couldroll decks. I think I faced one of each, or maybe maybe two of each. You know, really not much outside of the box. I lost today against a wet and Youtube, which was pretty cool. Got The got the insane set up on turn two. Is Pretty Pretty narrowly. They had. They had the me too with to energy and the frost moth and the SILV aalley like, all on turn to, all without a supporter. I was like, okay, well, I definitely lose this one. Yeah, I had that happening Players Cup too, and I was playing with Caro and mom movel to, which actually just does not feel very good that match. At break they have an UNCAFF damage. Yeah, and you can't one shot him. You too. It's I that's pretty funny. I literally guess somehow with Luke Metal, I gusted three times in a row on this Prosmos, but it's like enough. That's rough cool. So I mean it seems like you know things are going well in the Players Cup, hoping that I can have that that hot run for myself as well. Any advice that we maybe haven't already covered that you'd like to give to upandcoming players covers? I've just one thing that I've noticed is that the longer I've played, like I because I've kind of done my keys at a staggered rate, like I've been fairly consistent about playing. You know, I probably played ten last week and ten this week, and so I've just noticed that there's been a lot weirder decks the longer I've gone on. Again, it's a pretty small sample size, but like I almost would expect the level of like random decks to get higher the longer we go, because certainly there will be some people that just kind of enter just because like maybe to just ruin somebody's Day and they play meme Dex and stuff, where whereas in the beginning everyone's really motivated. I'm not sure if that's you know, certainly don't quote me on that, but that kind of has been my personal experience with Players Cup, where people are just the longer I go, like the more people are going to try something or they're going to throw in some spice or play out just a wacky deck because they don't really care. Yeah, yeah, I was always curious, like what the philosophy is like. Do you have people rushing in at the end and and trying really hard because they, you know, they realize they forgot their keys and it's the last day before all workers do? Or, you know, is it the people at the start who are like really motivated if trying really hard, or maybe it's probably sure, more realistically, is probably a mixture of those two people. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and that's why it makes it so hard. So I'm just going to give my kind of what what I lived experience. Yeah, my personal experience. So are going to be obviously hard to quantify that, but that's just what I that's what I've been feeling and that's what I've been seeing. For sure. I also we alluded to real life tournaments. I feel like we'd be remiss not to mention the World Championship two thousand and twenty one. It's not happening. You're right,...

...there she goes. I know it's crazy. Yeah, they just made an announcement yesterday that there would not be players cup or excuse me, that there would not be a world championship in London in two thousand and twenty one. That has been moved to two thousand and twenty two, and so, I mean we gotta think that it'll actually happen in two thousand and twenty two, but I like the preventive measure that they took. Obviously POKEMON has a brand of, you know, being very friendly and very inclusive, and you know not that there are not that I'm like immediately thinking of other brands that would like hold a world championships in a pandemic, but you know, certainly pokemon on like the reputation of Pokemon, like they just I feel like they almost can't, you know, they're kind of handcuffed to being like well, for sure, that's not something we're going to subject their fans too, and the risk potential is just too high, especially for, you know, kids and and families and things like that. No, I mean it makes a lot of sense. Like, honestly, I can barely see a tournament at all happening by that time, ye around August, I'll let alone a championship that you qualify for. You know, like we have to play and prior for the play or yeah, yeah, and then championship that, you know, a world championship right brings one from around the globe over. You know, that just doesn't seem right. So I like Pokemon's decision. It's not one that, you know, I'm necessarily like happy about in the sense that, yeah, I want to get back to normal just like everybody else, but it's a good move on their part and I'm going to be really excited for two thousand and twenty two. It's going to be insane. Like we've just seen Pokemon, just as a brand like get bigger and bigger, especially over the pandemic, especially with the cards, and so if you've never been to a world championship you'll never quite know how exciting that whole atmosphere is. And I think you know, next year when we do have the world championships, it'll just be unbelievable. Yeah, it's going to be awesome, for sure. I'm generally pretty excited myself. So I remember being so excited when they flash that it was going to be in London and two thousand nineteen. So I'm still excited now. I think it's going to be really fun experience. But do I think this is a good assign as any like do continue to take like your precautions, you know, keep yourself and your community safe, at your vaccines when you qualify, and then we'll shepherd and a new, hopefully healthy, era of two thousand and twenty two. Now, I know can't wait. Absolutely really thogw I think that brings us right about to our card of the day. I will say before you get into that if you're starting to have questions, you're in the chat and they're ruining your mind, make sure to drop them in there. That way we can get to them when we get to the end of our cast today. So my card of the day, Riley, is one we were talking about just cars from childhood that make us feel a little nostalgic and for some reason, I don't quite know why, I like I thought that this card was kind of cool or it just had that distinctive look that I just think of it as a card for my childhood that I just remember fondly. And that is card from neo discovery. It's an Amanite and it's in that clay. Yes, the CLAYOM and I is so cute. Yeah, the Clay Amanite. And so this card to me just, I don't know, represents something about my innocence, my childhood, and that I can't quite put a finger on. Why it's Almanite. You know, for other people they might add like a starter pokemon or or some kind of you know, like maybe a Mewtwo Card or a Charz ard card or something like that. But I was thinking about it, you know, all this week and I was thinking like man, you know,...

...what is a what is a card? Certainly there are others, but what is a card that I really, you know, could bring some spotlight to? That I just think of as being a card that I love or that I loved growing up, and that's Almanie, that's almanite. So I has this pokemon power fossil. Once during your turn, you may flip a coin of head, search your deck for a card that evolves from mysterious fossil and put it on your bench. Treat that card as a basic pokemon like insane power. Yeah, I don't ever remember using this card. Has a bind attack. Flip a coin of head to defending pokemon is paralyzed. I don't ever remember building a deck around it. Like I don't think I ever really had any alma star cards or maybe, actually, you know what I probably did have? I probably had base set I'm a star, or there was like a jungle Alma star or something, Anthony. Also fossil. Yeah, Feo. So I probably made some weird yeah, almanite from Neo with the fossil I'm a star deck and it probably wasn't very good, but I'm probably still beat my dad with it. Well, that's good, that's my card the day. That's awesome. That's awesome. And speaking of like hards and collecting and acquestion thereof, I think as a perfect segue into probably one of the hottest topics in Pokemon in the last week or so, and that's like the collecting, in the scalping they are of pokemon cards. So if you're out of the loop, think at the high level, the most important thing to know is pokemon cards are probably the hardest to physically acquire that they've ever been, at least for newer sets. So sure you know products are getting mass spot out, especially like these kind of collectors sets, though shining fates is a huge one for that, where they're just lying off the shelves mass quantities. Right. We also have situations like McDonald's doing a happy meal Promo and you know, you have people buying dozens or hundreds of them just to try and get the cars that they want. It's a it's a pretty wild world out there right now. Honestly, I don't understand. I understand about maybe some of the shining stuff, you know, where you have the chars ards and things like those just are very big cards. But yeah, certainly something like the McDonald's Promo, I think. I think part of that is a little bit of an embellishment. I there's certainly true. They're certainly truth the people, you know, going out of buying everything, but I think to some extent there's maybe a little bit of embellishment just like that, you know, kind of there's a little bit of escapism. I think that the people are are finding where they can, you know, be kind of outraged at someone going out and, you know, buying up a bunch of poke my cards that could have gone to the kids. And yes, yes, that's that's true. Yeah, and I mean if you're buying every single happy meal, you know, everything happening meal out of a McDonald's, that's yeah, that's not a it's a great thing to do. Yeah, actively good, but do I just feel like that it? Know, I do agree. I think the and I think what you're getting at is like the quantity of people doing this is, I think, astronomically smaller than would seem to be if you were to read like twitter or facebook right now. You know, I can say with utmost confidence that I could go to my McDonald's and get a happy meal, no problem, right. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. So, so that's yeah, that's kind of how I feel about it. I mean, sure, be upset, I think, you know, scalping, especially something like that, just scalping in general, is kind of leaves me with the bad taste of my mouth. But you know, that's that's the free market, Baby. So, you know,...

...you look at things like this, you look at just like you said, there being no hidden faiths, no vivid voltage. Like, dude, vivid voltage competitively suck. You know, let's just let's just be straight up, but I have not seen a single etb, you know, in any store that I've been in, Walmart, target, I don't know, even like little hobby shops. I like haven't seen anything, which is just crazy to me. So what do you think is like the cause of all this? Is it really just like Logan Paul's entry into the scene, or is something larger at lay here? Feel I mean it's definitely like an nostalgia trip, twenty five years of Pokemon. So I mean you just look at like just people's nostalgia come catching up to them. Certainly a big part of it is just scalpers like looking to make a quick buck. I think a lot of a lot of yeah players that there are a lot of people that are kind of getting wise to like, Oh, I could, you know, make a hundred bucks pretty easily if I just send this card in and get a graded and then flip it, you know, like they're that's I think that business model is going to kind of come down here eventually, probably not too much, but certainly we've seen a peak, I think, and then, yeah, I just think people have a lot more well, they kind of have a lot more disposable income. Like it's kind of I don't know, I kind of feel like we're in a little bit of a a fake, fake boom for some people like getting the stimulus checks and you're not really for a lot of people are not spending, you know, I mean my wife and I, like we haven't spent money out like to eat in a couple months. You know, we're definitely saving. We're definitely saving yas money, right as money, like we're definitely saving money in kind of a hidden way, you know where. Yeah, like you said, the gas money. We're not really spending a lot to eat. So we have just like kind of that money in our pocket that we don't really know what else to do with, but that we're investing that other people might say, Hey, you know what, I can go buy a POKEMON card and flip it make a few extra bucks. So I think all those things kind of control. Yeah, I kind of agree with you. It's a almost a perfect storm we have set up where you have folks like Logan Paul. I don't think he's like necessarily the progenitor of all this, but I think you definitely contributed, not so much directly, but the fact that there's so much publicity around it right where. You know, a lot of people might not even be Logan Paul viewers or fans, but we have this whole hyped up card mark and that definitely infected other content creators as well. You know, you have like poke Maine and and train wrecked and all these streamers. You're opening up boxes on streams and as the kind of have to because it's kind of the thing right now, right. Yeah, and so you know, people are getting exposed to it. They're like, oh, yeah, like Pokemon, it's fun, or there's looking at like Pokemon's opportunity for you make money. So and they have kind of like the time and money and energy to do it. Yeah, so, you know, we're stuck at home. is like the perfect kind of thing for that, you know, like taking up a box and either clipping out a cracking it. It's it's really ironic, though, that the that the slogan of Pokemon. It's got to catch them all. And then as soon as someone does that, you know, the Internet gets furious with that. They catch all of the happy meal too with yeah, I mean it like it's you know, it's in the brand, right, got to catch them all. So I don't know why everyone's so so upsite. No, I'm just kidding. I mean, yeah, it sucks. It sucks and a long and short of it, like I want to get a I want to get a box poke my cards for, you know, eighty bucks again. It's time. I don't see that happening. Yeah, I think scalping is just really crappy, but at the same time, like if someone really just wants to buy like a munch to stop for themselves, like I don't think they should necessarily be shamed. So, you know, I'm saying like if they if someone just really wants like twenty ETV's and...

...they want to open all those suckers, and you know, if you're scalping them, that's one thing, like that's crappy, but if you just want all those, I feel like those same kind of people are being shamed and it's like, yeah, it sucks that you can't have it, but, like, you know, they did, they did want it to have this for themselves, at least not flipping it. Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's just a weird thing. It's a weird thing, and then you look at like, you know, even I just feel bad for like game stores that maybe don't get allotments and that are forced to like really really up charge certain products and right to keep us. It's a weird, weird market out there right now and a lot of things are weird. Like bitcoin is weird and you know, game stop is weird. Just general economics right now or not making a lot of sense, and I think pokemon it's just another extension of that. Yeah, and I think a lot of it just comes down like we're stuck at home with money and times, and there you go. So pokemon, though, has caught wind, and maybe a little bit late, but they have caught wind, and there's they said they're going to do something about it actually, which is pretty impressive honestly. So pokemon has but out a statement saying that they are aware that like scalping is a problem right now. The products are very difficult to find. There will be, it's implied they'll be like pretty heavily reprinting a lot of their products to try and like accommodate this. I don't know that it does it, though, because I mean my counter argument to what Pokemon is said and I'm happy, like overall, I'm happy that they're doing it. I'm just not sure how big of an impact it's going to make, because I saw the other day evolutions booster boxes are going for over a thousand, like what is going on? You know, it's just ridiculous. So so you know, and and evolutions was a set that they tried to push on us like nobody's business. Nobody wanted stuff, nobody wanted this to I you know, was I sold a box of evolutions for fifty bucks. Yeah, and I was like kind of happy because I got to eat, you know, I got to go out to a nice dinner that night. You know, I didn't a box. So I do have an evolutions box here, but you know, if you would have asked me a year ago, like hey, is that evolutions box going to be one of the most expensive pokemon items that you own, I would have said no, no chance. So the fact that it's even in that same breath is just wild to me and kind of makes me think, yeah, thank you pokemon for doing something, but it, I mean, whatever they can possibly do might not even be enough. I mean, here's to say right, like car. It's not that difficult from like a monetary perspective for them to like print it an absurd amount more right. And so it's about them. I think the decision comes to like how limited do they want this to be? Right, like, you know, we could get we get shining fates pushed upon us, like evolutions was pushed upon us if they really want to. There's nothing physically stopping them. So who's to say? I don't know. Right, I think ultimately, like once we start getting enough product, I don't I think scalping will be less of an issue a because they're being more supply. So they'll be less incentive to scalp because you can't ward at all. Right, and once the supply actually starts to meet the demand, I think things will start to settle back down, assuming that we're able to accomplish that. Yeah, and Sean brings up a good point. Is just saying like there isn't enough product. So I think certainly we've seen like a boom and then it's been. There presumably have been some kind of issues with the the path the supplied blind just being interrupted with with covid related things. So, you know, certainly if we weren't in a covid situation where there was less supplied, than yeah, maybe this whole thing would have just been the natural kind of flow of the card inflation. But we're just seeing kind of hyperinflation just because of a lot of factors, not notably for real, like you said, not enough cards in circulation.

Real Real, you know, I'm I would love to get my hands on a shining face. So, you know, I'd be cool if I could like go to the store and get one of those. I'm with you, man. Are Go to the store and get one of those, but not pay, you know, three times the price, because there are there are some people. You know, I follow a couple of local Columbus groups and yeah, hidden fads. visit voltage or like etb's are, you know, a well over a hundred fifty. It's like crazy out there, man. Yeah, like I want. I want the luxury of being able to walk to my local target. Are Drive there? I guess I wouldn't that. Wouldn't walk there, you know, walk inside, go to the little card section by the cash register and pick up a box of cards. Yeah, you know, Yep, exactly, nice little pleasant collector kit of cards. Go to the cash it just R of pay the appropriate amount of money. Go, YEP, exactly. It's funny about you know. I hope that Pokemon's able to achieve that for their consumers. Yep, I did. I did. Also. I meant to mention this earlier, but I kind of forgot in the heat of the moment of talking. Do you realize that ATP effectively got banned from the World Championships? It's wild. All it took was a pandemic if he never got to go to the world championship. That's so crazy to me. Let's thinking about this as soon as they announced it. That's pretty sad, man, poor one out for a brother. It's so funny. Like, you know, people were clamoring for the band and you know, all it took, like I said, it was a global pandemic to take eighty feet down. It's going to be interesting to look at just the the just evolution of the game across like a lost two years essentially, right, like the competitive play presumably returning sometime mid two thousand and twenty two, and so, you know we last played early two thousand and twenty and then just to see kind of where the cards are at, that will be a really interesting comparison. So they should just release Riley Hulbert world champion two thousand and twenty one deck and just for the heck of it, dude, let's let's make our own world championship decks, Tag Team World Championship tanks, and then, yeah, we'll printed distribute them. That'd be sick and not illegal either. Yeah, no, no, what? We'll call him something different. It's a I just thought that was crazy. Imagine having like a one of those three turn ATP Games in the world's finals. Man, man, that would be pretty fun, wouldn't it? That would be so cool. I'll just like an inside job, different by ATP from having straight turn row finals. That's right, that's right. Yeah, it's it's like like what, like kind of the Illuminati? Yeah, exactly, for scaluminatis forcing, forcing a pandemic on the world so that ATP cannot win exactly. Seems doubtful, but does it the mean? So we'll take will take some questions from chat. We have one from Shawn here, says, do you think a lot of household names from the two thousand and nineteen season will have moved on from Pokemon when large scale events return? Riley, what do you think? That is something I've been thinking about recently, and not necessarily for myself, but you know, I look out and I see a lot of these folks that I play pokemon closely with that aren't really active in the online scene anymore. They're kind of just living their best life right now, which I think live in your best life can include poke. No, I realized I came off wrong, but like they're they're just kind of out there doing their thing. They're not really worried. I've pokemon right now and I've wondered...

...wear like if that'll translate when hope comes back. You know, I talked to a couple of my friends as well and they said, yeah, like maybe I got one more season to me and I'll just like try to get two worlds, but otherwise I'm done. So I'm I'm curious myself. Honestly, I do think there will be some amount of people who, like you, use this as their exit. For sure, I think a lot will depend on your perspective and also, like the Cross section of household. Like what do you consider a household? Name Right, sure, I do think there will be some amount of them that will exit. I think some of them will also, though, come back, even though they haven't necessarily been doing online stuff, because they're just like aren't into the online and they'd rather play in real life. Yeah, I mean I think you look at kind of our group as being a group that just isn't really that into the online scene. I mean, you know, rally I know that you you don't play a ton like I try to play when I can. I would say amongst you, me and Andrew, like we're probably I'm probably the most plugged into the like online tournament scene, which is really not saying much again, because I probably play on after like less than less than a tournament a month. Yeah, if you go outside US three in their group, it's really very little online involvements. Yeah, yeah, so I think just looking at that like, yeah, that's but, but I think right now this is a great time. I mean, I've been I've been preaching this too. Is just like if you are somebody that hasn't made a name from themselves and you on to I think the online scene is a great place to start. And then when we do get turn in this back, like if you have played a ton already, you get good, you know, you build up those mechanics, you build up the ability to sequence well and the ability to check prize as well, like you're going to go off on a tear, I have no doubt when things come back, because they're going to, you know. I mean it's just like any other skill, like the more you let it atrophy, you know, it's not like you can just kind of I mean there are certainly you can kind of pick it up in a sense, but you know, obviously the more practice you have, the more you'll be able to to navigate situations better than someone that hasn't practiced. So I think right now is a really great incubation period for newer players or players that are looking to kind of break into that next level, be it just from an average player to a good player, from a good player to a great player. Like. I think now is the opportunity to do them. Yeah, and I think, honestly, what'll ultimately end up happening is will have sort of a partial changing of the guard where, you know, some folks might kind of step away from the game, but they'll ultimately be replaced by people who have been really grinding and end up being kind of really strong, superstar kind of players when they end up having the chance. Yep, Yep. So, JW, we've tossed a lot about Pokemon, currents and future. What are you most looking forward to in terms of like Pokemon? Mind? At the moment, I I've been enjoying players cup. I maybe I'm like gonna get freaking like railed on for that, but I don't know, man, I like just competing. I just can't wait for you know, I want more official tournaments to compete in. I like playing in the online formats and stuff like that, but I much prefer, you know, pokemon comes out and it's like hey, we're doing this thing, this tournament. Like I'd rather be there right then then play pretty much anything else. So, yeah, I've really been enjoying players cup and I feel like I found, I think there are opportunities to enjoy the game right now. I know that, you know, there's a lot of negativity surrounding the game, but I think that the negative voices are generally just the loudest voices and I think that there are still you know, you're listening to this and you're like, why is everyone so angry about pokemon? It's like, well, they're just voicing their opinion, and so, like, I'll voice my opinion right now...

...when I say I enjoy the game. They gets still pretty fun. Again, not a great format, not the worst format I've ever played in, and I find, I've been finding, that there's room for high, high amounts of enjoyment right now. Like, like my enjoyment of the game right now, when I play a game that's really exciting, is as high as it's ever been for any other format. So yeah, so I would say I've enjoyed it and there's room for enjoyment right now in the game and I want to play more games that mean something. So that's what I'm excited for. Yeah, and I'm sure pokemon will find more opportunities to kind of insert themselves in the online sphere, given they have like an extra year to do it. So yeah, we're really hoping again like that they can. I don't know that necessarily solve the online sphere, and certainly the players Cup were really good step in that direction. But yeah, you you got to think that they should try to roll them out a little bit more frequently or do other sorts of events or, I don't know, be just be innovative and creative with the way that they utilize their their online player base. Absolutely well, I will say if you ever want to see a man enjoy himself playing pokemon cards, definitely tune into JW stream and youtube videos. I say this not just as his podcasting partner, but I really like watching JWU's videos. So do give them a sub sub on Youtube, Flex Daddy Rightch has on Youtube and twitch. Follow us on twitter as well. That's tag team Pokemon for the show, mouth of riles and Real John Walter for the individuals. And be sure to leave a rate and review on your favorite podcasting platforms. Tell us what you'd like and what you'd like to see change about the show. Yeah, that'd be great. Appreciate you guys a lot. As always, I'm right Hobart, joined by JW Crery Wall, and we'll catch you next time. Peace, let's see you.

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