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Season 4, Episode 5 · 1 month ago

4-5. Greninja's Foot

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back and this time they are in for a wild ride. Evolving Skies metagame continues to evolve: there are bears, weird dogs and an artillery dragon. Not to mention we got these new feet cards that are making everyone go crazy! Come check it out!

This week's episode of Tag Team is sponsored by Manscaped.

Yo, what is up guys looking back to tagteam, Pokmon Trading Card Games for me or or podcasting duo? My name is RileyHulbert joined, as always by my fantastic friend M J, W crewall Gw. HasIt gone today on really well Riley? How are you I am doing great, I'm doinggreat got to say no follow question what you get? OhYeah. I am good. Sorry, sorry, I just drifted off a yeah you're disappearingto eat there. I did I kind of said my piece and I was waiting for you, a reciprocal answer.Okay, yeah! Well! Not Today! Sorry! So, what's going on with the with your wetman, what's the sitch a it's been okay, yeah things have been happening, thecrewall household. We got a big gaming convention this weekend, that's veryfun! If you are have played, you know before thepandemics started, then you'll know that over the last few years that wehad in person play they had the national tournament in in Columbus, Ohio, that's right andbefore the national tournament, there's usually a very large gaming convention calledorigins and that historically at least recently has happened like the weekbefore nationals, and so I've played in this convention a few times. They don'thave any sanction, pokemon tournaments, but it's a board game convention. Justgenerally speaking, so there's going to be a lot of representatives fromdifferent board game companies or startups that they have a bit. You knowthey run out of a space in the convention center floor and they try tosell people games. So my wife and I are going to go we're going to volunteer onFriday if we volunteer for four hours and we get free admission Saturday, soan to get our free admission on Saturday go hang out play some games,you know, eat at the north market and and just have a little little date.That's super cool origins is really fun. I missed that from callinus yeah, it'sSuper Fun. If you've never been. You should really consider going some timein the future. They had to delay it a ton. I think this is probably theirthird makeup date, because it's normally in the summer right again,usually the week before we would have national by July yeah exactly butthey've been delaying it a couple of times. So we're just happy that it'sall up and running and that will be able to participate and they didn't dolast year either right. They canceled it completely last year. Yeah makessense, but it's exciting, but yeah we're hoping to get some swag hoping toget a couple of new games and are you going to compete in any liketournaments? I would love to. I need to look on the website and see when thestar Roms Tournament is because both my wife and I play- and it's one of theGames- that you know she just really enjoys, and I think, would actually bepretty good at a competitive level yeah. So that could be something that we lookinto. I know that in the past they've done it and I know that in the pastthey've not only been free, but if you won the tournament, you would get acustom card, yeah somebody, the love US has one. Oh really yeah do you knowfile used to play? Maybe yeah? Maybe I would Philip LeBrian Ly other yeah yeah, Okay Yeah. I know bry yeah, so yeah feel yeah. Okay,it's so cool as a card yeah. Maybe I'll get one too, but any plans for you this weekend,Raley this weekend, probably going to be Loketh not as Loki.If you remember I was on call last week, so I just kind of hunkered down hoping to go on like a hike orsomething this weekend, while the weather is still cool but not cold,like it's gambling down kind of sites, you know that's perfect, whether tolike go on a trail or something. So I'm hoping to do that and otherwise Istarted one piece which was the biggest mistake of my life. I'm currently sevenhundred chapters in so maybe I can get to like eight or nine hundred yeah,okay, cool O, that's great so dw. Last week we did not talk too much about theMeta. I think, for fair reasons, with D live being on a on the horizon. That islike that. That is, that is like the biggest thing. That's happened toPokemon in ten years. I would say: Yeah huge so, but there's been a lot of actually beengoing on a lot of shifts, a lot of craziness, a lot of Wacky wild decksfloating around in the Meta game and, namely, since we last talked about it.It seems like there have been some titans that have defined themselves inthe format that w we didn't really give...

...a ton of attention to before thosebeing single strike or she fu with Umbrian and drag opult with an teleon and we'vetalked about both of these decks as being present in the Meta game or maybewinning individual events. But certainly, if you look at any recentlarge im limitless tournament. These are the most popular decks and, by ausually a fair margin as well. The point where I actually was just prosingon limitless and throughout the entirety of the evolving skys format.They are now that the most popular decks, which the fact that's that theirpopularity is so recent, speaks to how popular they are relative to the restof the medal game. So GW pick out one of those decks and tell us a little bitabout it. What's for going on, there sure, so. I've actually been playing aton of single strike Ershi recently, particularly in these onlinetournaments on the client, where you know I'm trying to use up my ticketsbefore they all expire, but I've been rolling that deck and I've beennoticing a few really interesting things about it. The first veryinteresting thing is that the numbers are almost perfect for the deck and,let me explain so what has happened in the most recent sets, and in these twocars in particular the the the lifened Sylvian is that theyhave a lower than expected amount of HP. So normally we would expect a V pokemonto have. You know two hundred ten, two hundred twenty H P, that's kind of beenthe norm up until evolving skies, but these two Pokemon, which are majorplayers. You know, certainly in the Meta, have two hundred and why is two hundredrelevant well, that is perfect math for umbrean to take a knock out with on theembryon v. just this one single strike energy, or it's going to be too singlestrike energy attached and then on the v Max as well to an single strikeenergy attached. So it's just very interesting from that. Like kind ofgame design perspective that that ten HP really matters, because I don'tthink that if I don't think that, if, if like those you know, there areweren't those pokemon that had the two hundred health that were important andviable decks in the metagame, that single strike would have nearly as goodof like a matchup spread because you're not as potent with those basics. Youreally need to have that. You know you can reach to twenty with the Ershi andyou can reach two hundred with the embryon and the Abran Max, and sothat's just been interesting. I've been finding that a lot. I've been finding alot of opponents playing life, an a finding a lot of opponents playing atlife so be Honley too yeah exactly, and so that has just been one like reallycurious thing that I just noticed where it's like wow this math, this ten HP ortwenty HP, really matters to whether or not I win the game. So I just foundthat to be found that, to be a curiosity, the other I mean great thingabout the single strike. Deck is, of course, the the ability to go through Zama Sentaright, so you have a counter to that and then you just have really greattype coverage in the Meta game. I think, if you could choose your types, I think dark and fightingare probably the two like you know, premiere in terms of hitting for themost weaknesses and not really having too many problematic weaknesses inreturn. I guess fighting you have a lot of psychic, but that it's covered bythe dark, so I think those pair extremely nicely yeah. I would agree.The type coverage is really just perfect in the Meta game right now, andyou also have the umbrians ability to kind of snipe offthe evolving Tis on the bench and what I often find in the single strike matchup, especially if you're playing a v Max deck is you're just so threatened,especially if you end up going like a second and they just have an energy onone of their views. It's like now, they can just like research, and just me inthe same turn, knock out my view and I'm so far behind a absolutely it's rutal yeah, it'sreally oppressive can be at times and just the ability to have so muchcontrol over the opponent's bench, be it boss or with the Umber Gambax, is socool. Absolutely so one thing that I've seen some commentary on is that you know single strike is just is ahuge pile and it's inconsistent, and it's really just the quantity of peoplethat are playing it. Paired with its type advantages that is causing it tobe like so well represented in top cuts and wins, is that some sentiment thatyou share, because I'm Lookingi at just...

...the stats and I'm you know thinking ofmy own experience with the deck and it seems like it's got a good place. YeahI mean. Is it as consistent as as something like? I don't know like aLefen, for instance, like I would say, you know, leave you on extremelyconsistent, drag a pole like extremely consistent. No, but at the same time,like you said he, the kind of strength make up for it, and I don't find it tobe particularly I don't go into games are rarely go into games. where I havedead starts, I mostly will have really frustrating prizes. So there was aseries- and I posted in my discord where I had three tournaments. Thefirst tournament I prized for all for single strike energy. The turn out after that, the tournamentafter that I prized all for Hound. Our like not kidding, I prize all for handhour. I think I ended up winning that game, but no matter like I proof forhander and then the tournament after that I prose like three single strikeenergy. So I think this deck more than any other one is not necessarilyinconsistent, but it just has more issues with the prizing of certainparticular cards than really any other deck that I can think of. Like it'smore reliant on, you know getting you know three hound, O or two houndomand having two to four single strike: Energy in the deck right like it's.Just it's just really yeah. It's really relying on that andthen I see what I find very interesting is I see a lot of players that are kindof cutting down on the evolutions which I I don't know that I necessarily agreewith, but going down to one single striker Chifu, you know talk about.Maybe you know making things a little bit harder on yourself. I just I don'tknow that. I necessarily again that actually something I was going tocomment on to is we we've seen a lot of variation in the list. I feel like ofall the lists, like all the major archetypes in the metagame. Besides,maybe Sylvian, which is a given that there's going to be a lot of variationsingle strike, seems to have the most variation in like the counts andquantities of these cards. You know you think of like a sweeping list and youcan get it down to like fifty eight cars pretty quickly when you, when youroll it this week and in the single strike it's like. Are they playing howmany V maxes? Are they playing? What are their accounts of the vs right? Arethey playing any tool removal? How switch cards are they playing yeah yeah?It doesn't seem like there's really an agreed upon strategy there and I'm notsure if that's just because it's medigap dent- or we just simply don'tknow yeah for sure. I think it's definitely a deck that you have room toto mess around with no doubt so one thing I am passionate about inthat deck. He mentioned tour removal. I think that's absolutely necessity inthe deck just because it so greatly improves your speaking match up to havea jammer or scrapper in there. Like the difference between a two hundred andsixty HP and a two hundred ten H, P S, we can like you're talking about ten HP.Imagine fifty right is a huge, huge difference like being able to of aPekoa tank your hit and not be afraid about the cape being torn off. That'sthat's tough right for sure yeah. So I think you do need to have some kind oftool, movel or tool disruption. I personally have been playing with thetool jammer just because I feel like the deck wants to mow through a lot ofcards. You're not really sitting on hands very often, and I feel live rightnow. Yeah, I feel like tool. scrapper is more of a card that you know belongsin an Intelli, build where you can fetch it out when you need it or youknow some other. You know maybe a Zashiki you're kind of trying to buildup these larger hands yeah. So I like the I like the the the jammer. No, Ithink that that's good reasoning to is you can slam it down and keep Plonthrough your deck without worrying, if your Pon, it has put their tool downalready or not, and jammer can be used like a reactive way. To I mean one ofmy favorite moves in the POPMART is taking on like a HP, adding walking out the pure done. The damageyeah. Second knock out. Sure I like can really mess with you sure, becausethey're expecting to have that bench, spot open. You know earlier or later,like you're, just you're, just putting forcing them into weird positions thatthey weren't necessarily prepared for absolutely so I mean. Obviously thetype coverage is great right now. Is there any decks that you feel likesingle strike, just really hates to be against? At the moment, Dexter singlestrike really hates to be against. I don't like to play against rapid strikeor Shafou, and I think that that plays into the popularity of single strikerShafou is that we've really seen a decline in rapid strike over the lastfew weeks. I just feel like nobody is really picking up the deck and if theyare they're not doing particularly well for it with it B, but I think rapidstrike is still very good. Like Jol...

...town is increasing, so rapid strike. Ijust obliterates that deck like it's as close to an auto, and I think, as wehave in the format right now and then there is you know, but but with that deck you'regoing to be able to snipe the hand bowers, which is a really big deal tokind of limiting the damage potential of the single strike, vers food player yeah.So well, when I think of rapid strike, I think there's one thing that really sucks forthe rapper strike players and that's the other deck that we're going to talkabout, which is at rifle so dragon pole. T JACOPONE has thatfighting resistance of course week to Dart so so like has actually a prettydecent match up there, and the spread can really really tear through theseatellin engine decks and drag hold as well can play withlike a thin bench. You can play energy disruption, so some of these other manygame forces can kind of struggle in the match up it yeah. You know it's just that quint essential,like I'm, going to play the game at my pace, I'm going to bring you down to meand I'M gonna play my game better than you can play my game kind of get thatfor sure for sure. Yeah I mean snipe is always great we're seeing a realresurgence of just sniping and Dragon. Pult is probably the kind of image bear for the SNIG. No isright. nesting about that too, is a lot of people have talked about how wantingmew back in the format and things like that, but probably the single largestsource of bench, damage in the format right now is damaged, criers dragon putright, which wouldn't, which wouldn't be affected by mews right and actuallymight be more of a liability to have me because yeah, that's a sixth P pokemonthat doesn't evolve right yeah. Absolutely so I mean Dragon Polsomewhat of a known quantity. I think the Italian engine has been settled onthe way to play. It for sure you do have some flexibility with in therewith like the kinds of text and items that you play to sort of bolster yourin Tellin engine. One thing that has been the subject ofdebate as a result of dagop popularity is saviles Tu. Now you have your keep, callingsixty H, p sables obviously has the benefit of. If you're going second andmanage to attach to it. You can get some more sables into play. Then youhave your seventh piece tables, which don't do really do anything, but theyhave extra ten hip points, so dragon polt needs two zigag pigs or a Italiansnipe to knock it out right, which is a much taller order than just the one w. What are your thoughts on the thesable debate? Sure? I think there are a number ofdecks that the sixth P doesn't make any sense to play in, and those are decksthat have you know that don't have any ofthat. Really they don't have any other rapid strike pokemon in them. So Iwould say something like a rapid strike. Er Shafou deck shouldabsolutely a hundred percent play these six thb sables, but for most of thedecks that play and tell yo on quick, you know quick, calling or recallingkeep calling is going to be a move that puts you behind like you'd, rather havethat energy attached to something else, you'd rather be able to build up anattacker then try to keep calling. So I don'tnecessarily love the sixth P, just general in general, like if, at thepoint that you're going to attack with the sixth P, you've probably putyourself in a pretty compromising position. So I would go seventy HP justbecause there is a lot of dragon pult out and it's only a one car differenceright. We're talking about you know one extra zig, Zago Ping, or you know I don't know one extra turn ofattack or whatever it is, but it's that extra resource that extra time that youmight need to be able to make use of your Italian engine yeah, and I meanfor these Italian decks. You know we had the great drizzi debacle. I guessyou could call it where people were talking out changing jezilunnecessarily. It's really important that, like you, have your sables to useat meaningful times, because that's how the duck draw hearts, that's how theyget their items out of their deck, so keep getting to preserve just one extrasable over I don't know one out of every two or three games is adifference maker, honestly yeah. Absolutely so I think seventy H Pwould be where I would go. I still think sixty pit's fine, like Iunderstand d like keep calling like...

...there might be there might be an actualstatistical. You know difference right between thetwo, like I'd, be very interested to see again when we get, hopefully someyou know, objective deck stuff up and running. If they can see the amount of games that you win. Ifyou quick call, you know just just from a from anattacking perspective, like do players, you know, I agree, I think a win or isit? Is that a winning play? Is that a losing play like what? What is it? Ithink there's like two situations where you're usually quick calling the firstis when you really out, like literallynothing else to do, and you just have to start the saval right right. So youquit calling or keep calling you got me messed up now. I know the the secondone is, if you kind of got a decent setup, but want to spread your boardwide and you don't mind losing that attachment, for whatever reason, so I I mean I'm thinking like you know,sweet con deck, you can attach the water energy and then you can melodythe next turn yeah it just. It feels weird right because in in Tellin, deckslike you're, most of the time going to be playing a very thick count of theItalian line. Like you got four sables for dressless, and then you got fourquick balls and then you got four level balls for the most part. That's not howevery debt is is constructed, but for the most part like you should be ableto draw into a lot of those pieces that there are situations you know. Havingplayed a lot of intellecks, though, where- and I still agree that I thinkis probably the move for like an average event right now, but I do thinkthere are plenty of situations where you know. Maybe the attachment isn'twhat matters as much as just having a sable on your bench to evolve. You know it at least in deck that havesome sort of acceleration or don't need to attachments. You knowlike this weekends in Dulton, where having the sable present is moreimportant than getting a turn one attachment sure absolutely so I would still like recommend, onaverage, having the seventy, because I think it does matter in those Dragon Pool Games unless you're playing like a rapistdeck like if you're playing a tower of waters or your a general rapid strikedeck, then I think the utility gained from those cards is is worth it right, plus, like you saying, or she fuuntellably struggling against Jagault to matter what some war yeah very true,very true, yeah. Definitely you know, it's been kind of a surprise or a Bummer isdragon. pults typing has been a huge part in his success, but the other ghost psychic type isshadow rider has really really fallen off. I think between Umbrian and pathto the peak it has struggled to find its footing in the Meta game I mean: Doyou think there is a place for shadow writers, though shadow rider feels like it's beenpushed out. It just feels like it's. It almostfeels like it's too. It doesn't have any tricks. You knowit's too, it's too fair of a deck. It's too it's too normy of a deck yeah, if Ican say like you're attacking with V maxes and that's kind of your onlystrategy. I think for a lot of these decks. You know you're, you may beattacking with a VM, but you have some heel to back it up. You know that wouldbe jolty on like or you're slowing the pace of the gamedown with Dragouni. You know, and you can put your opponent in compromisingpositions or you're attacking with Non v Max Pokemon, so the sweet, coons orthe single strike decks right, like you have some kind of, maybe not as line orstrategy, but the problem that the shadow writer comes in to is that thestrategy is just so linear. Everyone knows what you're going to do. THERE'S NO REAL! You know trick that you can pull out ofthe pull one bag, at least not with the way that list are built right now andyou're attacking with two big V maxes to take all your prizes, so it justyou're opening yourself up to you, know: Okay, you put a vm there and like okay,I'll one shot it and then I'll one shy, your other one and then we're we'redone or two shot or whatever it is like. The attackers are just being given toyou. The V maxes are just being placed front and center. I think that makes it so you know it's a lot easierto devise a game plan to beat that Dick. You know I would almost descent on thatin that I think the linearity isn't necessarily a problem. It does kind oflack the explosiveness. I guess where you know, shadow righter really needsto be taking to the chaos at the worst on turn to basically to keep up, and itdoesn't really do that,...

...but I think the figure problem thatshatter rider has is it has some sort of compromising flaw in pretty much everymatchup right, like in the jolty on Dragon Polt match ups, which is likethings that, in a fair playing ground, might be favorable for shadow riderbecause of the damage output. Paths of the peak really gets in theway right in the Er she fu match up. You know thesingle striker Chefoo, you know you're, obviously hitting the bear forthousands of damage, but the embryon is one shouts you for very little effortand then obviously like in this week, couldmatch up, would shadow it er. You have to bench wide, so you're settingyourself up to just be Ledie, pretty much every game right, so it just feelslike every of the big decks right now has something that just makes it be:Chatard, yeah, intentionally or unintentionally. Right and just thehigh amount of path is just really tough. Like again, shadow rider feelslike the kind of deck. That's that's almost the it's just being pushed out by forcesthat it can't control right, it's just a product of its environment where it'slike it's set up to succeed, but because everything is intentionally orunintentionally playing these hate cards, it just kind of has fall intothe background. I would agree, I would agree one other thing I wanted to make surewe talked about. We talked about this with regards to single strike is tooremoval. I think it's been a general topic of this format. Would you say that Toramava Ya, your NAuntormented every deck in the format for most TEX in the format? I wouldplay it in every deck every day I would play then every deck, because mostlythe biggest tool that you want to remove. I mean air balloon is fine. Youknow that that's a really good tool that pretty deck place, but the biggesttoole that you want to remove is the the Cave of toughness and that in a lotof scenarios on Ashin on some Zentha on, you know, sweet coons, like that's,going to provide a lot of headaches yeah. So I agree cap a toughness islike an essential component of those deck strategies. Usually, I would alsosay the the elemental badge can be pretty relevant to on jolty on Ye, sotrue o being a tricky with Sheryl and stuff yeah. So true, so true,especially yeah, because they play three, you know so if they discard oneearly and they get one down or two down, you know even and thenyou're able to tool, scraper right and in that scenario like that, can bereally tough or yeah. Even if you have the you can force them to commit extraenergy, if you have rita jam like so, you know, you also force them in asituation where maybe they can't share all and get thebadge that turn so they have to like research shermany and get the energyinstead, so they're, not healing, which is a big component, that catice rightand then they only play. You know seven, eight energy. So it's definitely one ofthe lower accounts right now in the game. So yeah, like you, said it's nota guarantee to get that either, and we at touched this earlier, butacross the board, do you have any thoughts for scrapper versus jammer? I honestly likeGamer a lot right now in a lot of decks. I agree, I think James Pretty Cool. Ithink, for the most part, if I had to make a choice and it's all deckspecific right, because I feel like the decks that rely on in Telian, I think,are a little more easily able to play the tool scrapper. But at the same timejammer is the kind of card that you can set andforget right. You can just play it and then, Oh, I have the research, and soI'm not going to you know discard my only way to get around tools. That'salso said like there are decks that rely more heavily on Marni than theymay on research right, so you know being able to hold that forthe lake game. Your tool scrapper, might be a better option in a deck.That's running, you know less research and me yea is more rol yeah or if youhave a different tool, or you know or you're, more reliant on Melanie orMarni or another supporter, then that would be also where I would considertool scrapper, because you want to save like tool scrappers that very timespecific, whereas tool jammer is a little less so and so not discarding the tool.scrapper early is very important. Yeah First, I think my general thought is amost t maxes I like Jammer and most vs. I like scrapper,...

...okay, okay, I think the only exceptionis, I think, er she fou rapid strike playsbetter with jammer or scrapper sure, and I think that's largely down to justhow they play like a lot of the VDC use. Cape of toughness like we talked aboutearlier, so they can't afford to tach a jammer and they also want to removeupon its jammers. So the scrapper kind of fits into thatstrategy, but most of the V maxes, don't really even have a tool thatthey're using a and a lot of them are now trying to get like a big v Max infront of your upon its poke on, and they don't care about, like Er rivingair balloons and stuff. They just want to turn off the keep O topes at the timeright. Exactly yeah, that's also really relevant is what kind of tools are youalready playing? Would you rather have you know the tool scrapper if you'realready trying to play tools of your own cool cool, any other things that youwanted to hit on and like the evolution or status at the game? Now I think that's that's pretty prettymuch it there yeah we covered like the decks that are on the rise, which isreally it's interesting right, because where do you go from here, I feel likewhen we started. We were all very much on the decks that were good in the priorformat, which were callere shadow rider, cally rex and then Er Shafou, and nowwe've seen just a complete shift with evolving skies into kind of a drag up, halt s single strike metagame.So is there any countering of this matter like? Do you see thisMeta evolving or do you think we're kind of in a in a light stage wherewe've discovered that those are the best ex? You know things like Joltincan hang things like Lipin can hang sylvie an can, hang a few other deckscan can be in the mix. But do you see us evolving past, where we are now interms of you know, finding a new maybe best one, two three decks. I thinkthese have kind of solidified themselves as probably the top decksoverall being the the single strike, the Dragon Pult, I think sweet coon isup there still and then some of the the evilia decks kind of hanging rightbehind that that's said, I think there's there'sroom maybe to squeeze into individual tournaments, but I think you're goingto struggle to find decks. That consistently do well against, like all three of these, but even justthe top two in single strike and drag Opole, and that you're going to astruggle to find ex that kind of cover all those bases, because they do suchdifferent things. They have such different weaknesses. You know, there's not like a catch allto that yeah yeah now one other deck I do want to bring up. But I was playingtoday that I had not played before in this format- is Sable Galerian,wheezing and Talian Huh. I really like that deck right now, because there's alot of reliance on abilities, especially to set up- and I think I think it's quite a deck.Actually, the wheezing is very oppressive and then you have the sableeye the Multis, the sniping ability of Intelli to kind of back it up. One ofthe problems with that deck was that it lacked a real good. You know damage adder right, like it just kindof I kind of lacked right, you're only doing poison for for forty in betweenturns and that's pretty lack luster on the whole. But now you haven't tellio.You have an attacker that powers itself up in the Multis, it's for big damage,and you know you have sable. I, like you always did so. I really see thatdeck as a as a pretty big threat and the ability is insane. I was playingsome games with it on the ladder and, if you're listening to this and it'sThursday, then my newest video is probably out by now covering the deckand it's absurd. I had four different people, you know and four straightgames just concede pretty much after I got the wheezing out because theycouldn't evolve into drizzle. They couldn't you know, Intrepid Sword, theycouldn't play Crowbar or they did play crow bad, but obviously it didn't worklike it was. It was really really oppressive how how much the GALARYweezing impacted the game. So I'm going to throw that out. There is like kindof a dark horse. I think I think that probably is like maybe the biggest starcourse that has a chance against both of those big decks. I don't love thedeck. I think it's really reliant on like that. First weezing slowing youropponent down a decent chunk, like my experience with and against the deck is,if your opponents able to like start swigging right away. Oh for sure, thenit doesn't really matter right right now. That's that'sabsolutely true! That's a absolutely...

...true, but in the IT pretty muchdemolishes single strike for the most part right, because that kind of needsthe abilities to start swinging in the first place. Yeah I mean you, can youcan do it with the single strike or she right, because you can accelerate fromthe deck, but that's not really a, but that's like a one time deal. Yeah, forthat's a one time deal, and it's not very often that that happens, I mean ithappens. You know you can make it happen, but it's not something assomebody that's played single strike, it's not something that happens. Youknow, I would say a majority of the time for sure and then againstsomething like dragon pot like you have dark attackers, and they really rely onthat Italian engine, especially the Dragon Pol decks that are cuttingconsistency to add in hammers they're, really relying on having a Amira YepYep. So I think that could be a deck that we see a little bit. More is kindof like the counter to the top two main decks, and then you also take yeah. Imean something like a sweet. Con could be kind of tough right because they canthey're very low maintenance, so just to energy, and they can start swingingfor for one shots on the on the wheezing, provided the weezing playerhas at least one bench pokemon, but usually they do which, which you knowyeah exactly. Usually they do so that could be one of the the kind ofAchilles heels of the deck, but I like it. I was playing a little bit with itand I could see its potential now. I think that is a fair concession. Italso does play kind of like a one prize, Dick in a way with like n finishers, asopposed to just be multi prize attackers, which is cool, yeah. Absolutely awesome, l, let's jumpinto our cart of the day. For today and Gw, I got a Banger for you, ter, a cartof the day for today lets you do something that is legendary, moveamongst our friend group and take a little peeksy pie his card. Let's youtake a look at your opponent's hand, which is a huge, huge dub and it has anattack which is absurdly useless. It does want any damage for three energyand, of course, talking about the Granica v Union Foot Pat's go thebottom right piece, not the whole ve union. Just the footpiece- okay, namely because of the ability on it, is just so fun to take apeek at your upon its hand. Every time yeah, it's like one of those where itdoesn't it shouldn't ever really impact the game. All that much because at thepoint that you're getting out of GRANICA, you probably have alreadyeither one or lost the game like the trajectory of the game has already beenset or you. I don't even have a mart in your hand or yeah yeah right or youdon't have a mark like there's no way you can plan around it. You know planaround what your pinning might have so yeah. I agree: That's what that's areally fun one for today, yeah. So in the spirit of the unions coming out, Iwanted to give praise to one of the V union pieces. So if you happen to havehundreds of packs on tg, this is your chance to go play that I guess they'refun. I did a little three part series on each of the v Unions and there are alot of fun to try to get out. You know they don't ever really seem like theoptimal rap to go in a lot of cases like you're right, you're, never theirstars search to right right, especially in standard right in expanded. I thinkthey have a lot of potential. I really did like Zash the union and expanded because, ofcourse, the battle compressor. Of course you have a little bit betteraccess to you know things like Max like Er and then Bronson or the metalsaucers come a little easier in the expanded format, with all the draw theyor some right. I did like that. A little bit more, an expanded than I sawyou know Andrew, was playing a grin, inja deck and expanded with Blas Oise,which is just a very obvious pairing, but works real well yeah. It all makesense. I was for today I was debating either doing Gringa foot or doing thesashing piece with master blade on it and making a master blader joke yeah I mean so you you did it yeah. Idid any you still did. I did both yeah well speaking of blades. Is it time to Tito our sponsor? That's right so j wfun fact about the POKEMON Video Games is one of the highest value. Items thatyou can sell to a shop are, of course, the mushrooms that you can find in thegame, so mushrooms, incredibly value valuable in a pokemon and what mushroomis more important than the one between your legs and lucky for you, we at tag team havethe Solari, and that is manscapes with their newlawn mower. Four Point Ou allows you ye.

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...just searching drawing into the piecesto discard them in the first place. It's just you basically can only searchthem with like familiar bell and grape all and great, and that's it- you can'tquick ball for them, because they're not a basic, you can't evolution insense for them because they're not in evolution and that's basically it so.You have to great ball hope, they're in the top seven or you know, familiar bell after you'vealready gotten one into the discard right, yeah, it's a really kind ofmessed up engine that we have for them. You could play Professor Burnett, it's just the weeniest play of all time.I think, as for that has to feel so bad to if you ever played a battle,compressor, yeah yeah, if you're, if you're, if you'vebeen playing for more than like two years right, if you, if you've, beenplaying longer than the pen pandemic, s been going on and you have ever playeda battle compressor in your life, and you know the Catharsis that comes frombeing able to play. You know two or three, even on the first turn of thegame. If I did you a propretor and your battle oppressors, it's insane yeah,it's so good yeah and then professor Burnette is just such a such a buzzkill. Yeah I mean when that car was first revealed. I was like man. How farare we falling absolutely? So you know, I just don't think,there's like a great way to get those little suckers out. I will say theyhave a really cool animation on tg felt like diawol last stand, you know Er yeah. They wanted to go out there like.Maybe this will save us, maybe if we finally make a really cool animation, respond, yeah, our final move, yeah or spirit bomb, soto speed so that cracks me up but yeah. I thinkthey're fun to like get into play, maybe partially because of theanimation, but they don't really offer a ton when they're out there at themoment, yeah you're, looking at there they're cool. I think, though, you know,as we keep going with this mechanic- and you know we're going to get some in one and evolutions with the Pikachu,and I do hope that they continue to evolve this mechanic. I think what Iwould like to see is: Maybe One v Union per type right. I think that would be avery enough that would kind of be an homage to the prism stars right wherewe had one per type. You know they're kind of like your boss or if you're playing that specificcolor, you were generally going to include that Prism Star Card, so youknow I could see that being somewhat similar right and then they give theman engine. Maybe a battle compressor, maybe a nerved battle compressor Icould see. Maybe about Yo got so burnet already man, yeah, t choosers, true true, but about on resier two orbattle compressor for only v Union poke man that that I think, might actuallysee play yeah. So the the interesting thing to me to is you know often times will see like thevery first like Promo of a card is usually not the pinnacle of what thatarchetype kind of is, you know, think back to like Snorle gx s are firstrevealed a snarl ax people tried to make that sucker work, but he wasreally not a phenomenal card. I mean he did. I don't want to misspeak, but I thinkhe top cut like a red. He did top eight regional. Was it top eight wow? Okay, that I wasthinking top thirty two, but I think he taught. I think this a ANESTA top eokay. That could be true. I wouldn't be surprised, but I know it like the point being. It wasplayed at a regional before yeah. You know that are going to do s purposelike it did the two hundred ten damage. You know I had his thing, but you know it really wasn't like theultimate form of a GX. You know, Oh for sure, so I wouldn't be surprised ifdown the road, we get a vunt and it makes these ones that we've seen lookkind of silly in comparison. Otha happens. I kind of hope it happensto like. I would love to to see like a actually solid enouf. The Union forlike that is a cork on poor strategy. Yeah because, like you said they they,you know. Maybe there were. There was a small component of people out therethat, were you, know, kind of saying. Oh this is you know, it doesn't lookgood and it's kind of awkward to play and like yeah, that's that's true, andbut I think, after playing with these first initial ones, I don't think theywould ruin the game even if they had some support yeah. So you know I'mexcited to see what it looks like in the end. You know I definitely wanted to keepplaying them at least n messed around...

...with them, because they're fun to messaround with it hot and they are satisfying when you get like theirultimate as hack off and when a game with it yeah, no doubt cool. So I mean those are the main things youwanted to hit on today. Jovy do have any nuggets of wisdom to leave to ourlisteners. Do I have any nuggets of wisdom. Well,first, is to go to Manscapes and use the CO tactteam buy something help us out a lot. We don't really ask for much on thePODCAST, but we're getting varied, we're getting dangerously close to apoint where the podcast is actually going to cost US money. So the Penes, you guys are you- have sucha good listener ship that that we're getting dangerously close toa threshold, the amount of times that can that it can be streamed. Thepodcast can be streamed before we have to pay our service to post our podcast.So so we don't ask for money, you know very often you know, but if this wouldbe a product that you're in need of you know, consider the other Nogat ovewisdom that I would say for players is that there is anoverwhelming number of that choices, and I cannot. I cannot recommend more just getting one deckthat you just grinded into the ground and know all the matchup inside and outand then kind of expand from there. But I think what can happen, especiallywith maybe a newer player. I was this player. I still am this player to anextent is like I'll, see something win and then I'll go player. I know, or youknow I'll go to that deck or I'll go to like the C, the exact counter to thatdeck or I'll try to fit in a bunch of weird stuff into my deck to try tocounter the top deck like that. That's me, I'm always like a very reactionaryperson, as opposed to just saying you, okay, I have this deck like I'm,going to stick with it and just know the strategies inside and out to beable to try to counter you know anything, the it's just so wide of ametagame that I would really suggest, especially for younger players. Newwere players to take a deep dive into one specific deck and then kind of likework. Your way out from there know the match ups inside and out know what theMeta needs to look like for you to succeed, know the matches. You wouldneed to hit to go deep in a tournament and then, if you know you realize Ohhey, the metagame is not looking very good for for the deck that I put allthis time into. Then you know then branch out, but don't be kind ofchasing around. Like again, I always tend to do that like chase around tothe new hottest thing or the counter to the new hottest thing, and I think thatgets me in trouble more often than that start with sweet on Max weekly thatback sweeten yes, so we can is a great onefor sure for sure anything for you riling. Ithink my negative wisdom would be make that dex wee con. It's a great deck to not only in the Meta game in general,it's great to practice. Sequencing! It's straightforward and strategy has alot of nuance to it, and it's really fun and powerful. I would say, play toremoval. I would also say don't run with scissors, because if youtrip and fall you hurt yourself really smart. I know I know and don't take scissors downthere get one from get a long more for final for Manscapes, good, APP, excellent episode, J W, always apleasure talking to you. If you all enjoyed the episode of it or if youjust made it to minute fifty four and you hated it, then please right inreview. So that way we can get that feedback on your favorite podcastingplatforms and be sure to check us out on all of our social media platformswere on twitter smiles of Riles Real John Walter and tag team Pokemon formyself, T W and the podcast respectively, and you can catch USalive every single week on twitch tat TV Munner, an jaw does some of therecording himself as well as some awesome streams of his own, so makesure to check out flex, Daddy, righteous on Youtube and twitch.Absolutely looking forward to plugging in you know more with you guys, youknow just interacting more and you know feel free to shoot me DM or through thepodcast twitter. We we love to hear from youguys absolutely with that. We will catch you all. Next time base, do you a.

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