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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast
Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 20 · 1 year ago

3-20. Happy 25th!

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back in town for Pokemons 25th anniversary! Come in for a fun episode with a slew of announcements!

Yo, what is up, guys? Welcome back to tag team, the POKEMON trading card games for mere podcastingDoo. My name is Riley Hulbert, joined as always by my good,good friend JW Curry, wall JW haws. It going today, Robley? It'sgoing pretty well. Almost half well, more than halfway through my first weekof code. I know you guys are getting tired of me talking aboutbut almost through my first week. So it feels pretty good. Very Nice, very nice. You, Riley. What's what's new with you? Well, the project that I've been working on since April of last year is comingto fruition. It's going live at the end of next month. So alot of preparation going into that as we approach like the final stages of that. But that's been like a tumultuous yet exciting time, you know. Obviouslyit's cool to see something like come to its end. Game of stressful atthe same time, though. Yeah, there we are. Otherwise, I'vebeen doing well. I've been doing well. Like I said last week, I'vebeen trying to like sort of have a better mentality coming into two thousandand twenty one and kind of treat myself and my mental state a little bitbetter. I think I've I've been doing better at that just in last weekat least. Say, you know, sure, how to recognize when thingsare fallen off shack and like resenter myself and you know, I think I'mcruising. Was Kind of cruising. Sure, sure, absolutely, that's great.Man. How's a has the coding been? You know, you talkedabout all the time, but are you feeling like you really getting into it? Well, today, I mean it's been a lot of review for mesince I was working, you know, for that out the last like threemonths. Well, I no, no, that's generous. I would say likemonth and a half maybe getting ready for it. So a lot ofthis. I would expect the first week, hopefully the first two weeks, wouldbe a lot of just review. Yeah, we've been doing a lotof you know, today was expressions and methods. Yeah, yeah, it'slike okay, you know, and I kind of knew, you know,what's going on there. So it wasn't too bad. I mean it's alot of we're doing some like word problems and stuff with if statements and sojust try to figure out that. And Yeah, it's a lot of it'snot necessarily hard. It's just work that is solidifying the concept. Yeah,I spent sure a good amount of time on it just because there were,you know, forty questions that we had to do tonight or so. It'slike not necessarily hard and I know what's going on, but it's like takesa lot of time just because, you know, you know how that kindof stuff goes as yeah, for sure, word problems, you just got tokind of you know, you spend a minute trying to parse out thewords and what it means and then you put it into the thing and thenyou forget a semicolon and then you go back and yeah, so, so, yeah, it's been it's been pretty good, very nice. I havehave a question for you. Actually, how do you this is like notcutting late at all. This is hair related. So I was talking tomy Mente at work today and I was kind of ranting like I feel likeright now. My Hair, I think, looks fine right now, but myhair is kind of in that awkward phase where it's like not quite longenough but not short hair either. Yeah, how did you, in your likehair growth journey, get past that phase? It was pretty bad.That was a rough match, I because I knew I was going to gofor a man but so I don't know if that's your plan, but Iknew that I had to break through this kind of middle stage. So whatI ended up doing for a while was just wearing a head band, yeah, I know, and looking like a Lacrosse kid in eighth grade. AndYeah, so I don't know. I mean I don't know how you're supposedto get through it. It's just like get a haircut scrub. Yeah,I don't know. I'm like, I don't know what I want to dowith it either, which makes it harder. I'm thinking about going with like anundercut, you know, where you like the sides and back or supershort, but then, I don't know,...

I don't know, maybe maybe itwork. Yeah, I don't know. My hair's like really thick. I'mearly to so it's just awkward to work with. Yeah, I alwaysfeel like that kind of haircut doesn't look the best on people with curly hair, just because it looks like you where you're wearing like a pad or amop or something. I don't know, I agree. Maybe I don't knowwhat to do, though. It's just it's awkward right now. It isreally I mean it's always it's going to be awkward for everybody. Like nobodyhas a good period there or your share. For sure. It is what itis. And let's shift away from hair, though, and talk aboutsome pokemon. So coming up here, believe it or not, tow twothousand and twenty one is the twenty five anniversary of Pokemon, not the tradingcard game, but pokemon in general. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Youknow. I remember, okay, a lot of the type around the,you know, twenty anniversary and it was it was pretty big. You know, it's pretty cool, but I don't know, twenty five is silver anniversary. You know, it's it is a little bit more prestigious, bigger,nicer number for a lot of people, and so you can expect big thingsand today was a big release for some of those big things. Yeah,a lot of cool stuff that they announced today. I also very distinctly rememberthe twenty anniversary. That's really when I started to get into the trading cardgame. was around then, and my friends and I were so excited toget all the twenty anniversary like merge in the generations packs and there's a there'sa fun time, generations packs. Yeah, that that's amazing. Yeah, Idistinctly remember not having enough money to purchase the things that I wanted topurchase from the twenty twenty anniversary. Yeah, I just didn't really get there wasone Pikachu box collection. I don't know if you remember this, butit was like a silver ful art Pikachu was kind of the feature card ofthis collection and it came with some sleeves and a deck box and, Ithink some packs, but the big kind of feature again was this Pikachu andI remember just wanting that so bad and then just not you know, Imean I was in college, so just not really being able to justify spendingthe hundred or hundred fifty dollars. Was Secondary Market. So ended up notreally getting a lot out of that twenty anniversary in terms of Merch but didget a lot of like booster packs, you know, did get a lotof evolutions ended up opening or selling, but some, some of the oreexcusing generations. I got a lot, yeah, selling and stuff, butthen kept some of the evolutions. Now for sure I I getting every singleone of those, those pin collections for generations. I came with all thedifferent mythic Pokemon, so like the MEU cell of either drachi. Yeah,I have all those pins still. Actually, they're all sweet. They're in abaggy on my shelf right now because they don't have a bulletin board toput them in. But okay, as soon as I do get a bulletsin part. How much are they? The pins? Yeah, I'm justcurious. I have no idea. I just think they're cool. Like arethey okay, okay, I wasn't sure if they were had some kind ofvalue. Now I do have. I think. The one thing I have, it's actually a value, is you remember they made plushes as well forall the mythics and they came in these like big, like square, lasthe kind of not really boxes, but kind of boxes. I guess Idon't I can pick it out and show you for the listeners at home.They came in these like plastic, almost like build a bear looking kind ofthings, and it had the twenty anniversary logo on it and there's one forPikachu. I think there might have been one for ev and there's one forall the twenty anniversaries. So I got...

...the Pikachu one. He's pretty cool, I think this is actually worth something now, okay, like especially whencoming with the box thing. Sure, but you know that's permanent fixture inthe Pikachu collection, obviously. Yeah, that's awesome, a twenty five anniversary. So did you walk us through what we're looking at in terms of thegeneral announcements? And then we'll talk about pokemon cards after that. Sure.So the biggest announcement they just put out pokemon today put out a trailer witha Rube Goldberg machine where they had a poke ball that kind of traveled throughthe different areas of Pokemon. You know, hello in Canto Joe to. It'ssuch tra the three that you know the top of your head. What'shappen? The three that you know off top of your head? Yeah,well, like the only three that I actually played all the way through.I know, Nova and Gal are right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, theones with cards. So then it traveled, this poke about travels allthe way through. It's great little I thought. I mean it was kindof it's kind of was cool because the production value wasn't like too high becauseit's a root Goldenburg machine. So there's like an inherent kind of playful toyesque atmosphere to it. Yeah, I thought just really I mean it justfits with pokemon because it's this fanciful kind of childlike thing, but also likesophisticated to the point that it's this I don't know, kind of machinery thathas to go through these I don't know, I just thought the whole concept reallyworked well for what they were trying to do. Anyway, at theend of the trailer they have this kind of hint at a Katie Perry collaboration, which was probably the biggest news from today. Yeah, Katie Perry.It's it seems so random to me, but but it's cool. Don't getme wrong, it's really cool. I don't know that it's too random.You don't think that they would trying to bring on like a big star.I think just carried Katy Perry particular to seem random. I mean it seemsI don't know why, it seems random, like she's probably one of the biggestleast she's probably one of the biggest least controversial. Yeah, that's probablywhat it comes down to. She's like a very like non controversial. She'ssuper cool, you know, at least she seems super cool and like mypair of social relationship. Yeah, yeah, now, I I'm not like I'msaid about it. I don't think it was like a bad choice.It's just like I haven't thought about Katie Perry and like a long time.You know, Katie Perry is personally one of my favorite pop artists, sosee that she is. I we don't really know what her relationship is.I think I was reading on twitter like she is our well, actually,I don't even know, based on the twitter post, now that I'm rerememberingit, but it's it sounds like there might be at least one, youknow, maybe multiple songs. If you hear at the end of the trailershe says like electric it's in its in a song form. So maybe there'sgoing to be some kind of like elemental song or songs, you know,to kind of depict, you know, different typings of the POKEMON. Youknow, that could be something, but we don't quite noa to on.Obviously this trailer was just a just a taste, just to taste, butI'm into it man. I can't wait to see what happens. Yeah,I'm excited. I'm excited and I'm excited to hear the songs when they drop. Obviously. I also saw on tyler there's some picture of Katy Perry withsome like super rare you could chew plushy, which was really interesting. I don'tknow they gave that to her, if that's something she just like gottenher own. Well, I have been really loving the branding surrounding everything.So one thing that you'll notice if you...

...look at all of the, youknow, packaging on the products or at Katie Perry's kind of press release picturefor Pokemon or I don't know, just just a lot of these, alot of the brand of the subtle branding that they have is just Pikachu's tailin the background and it looks really, really clean. So the two biggestexamples, I would say again are that background for Katie Perry and then they'realso doing it on the POKEMON card sleeves. There's this kind of, you know, the zigzaggy tail of Pikachew and then there's also some sleeves that they'remaking with this exact tail. So I would expect that tail kind of tobe this yeah, this subtle, not you know, continually over and over, which is really really cool in terms of branding for the twenty five anniversaryand that makes me think they always they talked about and they have the nebulousday. They talked about like when you're designing a character, like a signof a good character or a good brand is that it has a very recognizablesilhouette. And, like you typically when you think of Pikachi, I thinkthe thing that comes to mind is like the face right with around with thepointy years heading in like both directions. That's a very recognizable pokemon trope,right, and then the twenty anniversary we really into the face, like thegenerations ETB and the sleeves. I'll had the peak of choice faces, thelogo, sure, but I feel like Pikachu as a whole has it likea super good silhouette, and the tail is definitely part of that. Likeyou can see Pinka Jus tail and you know that's peak choose tail. Yeah, so I think this is really cool that peak choose like such an iconiccharacter that you can recognize it in so many different ways. That's definitely true. Definitely true. No different cool. I definitely agree with you. Thebranding super awesome. I always love them. POKEMON goes all out on these kindsof things. I think it's really fun. Yeah, yeah, II mean, you know, they have the brand to do it like theyjust they they pretty much don't miss when they make stuff like this, andthis another great example, another thing that to keep an eye out for ifyou're into kind of yeah, all this smirch and stuff. I just sawthat they're doing another print line of bear Walker, now that we're talking aboutPikachu stuff, but they're dropping some more scape. Did see that as well. That email that the nineteen of this month. So like that's cool.I just yeah, it's going to be interesting because I have to feel likethere's going to just be way more stuff that's going to come out this year. You know, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Yeah,I think February is going to be a key Mon because I'm pretty sure Februaryis like the actual anniversary month, isn't it? Okay, it could be. That sounds about right. I think that's when. Are you saying whenit dropped in Japan? Yeah, I'm pretty sure the first games were releasedin February. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what they use as the metricfor the anniversary. Yeah, the cool yeah, beyond the lookout I'm excitedto see what comes with this and and where the game is headed and wherethe brand as a whole is is planning to take this. So yeah,I'm going to be a look at for more news because I'm always excited topick up a new pokemon swag. So, Riley, if there's I was justgoing to ask you, Riley, if there's one piece of Merch thatyou are like, I have to get this. What would it be,or what would you I mean, obviously we don't have the whole, youknow, kind of merged lineup, but, like you know, assuming that they'regoing to make you know, pretty much anything that you could want.What's one piece of Merch that you absolutely have to pick up? Well,I'm always a big fan of the pelashes, of course. Yeah, that's likean obvious cake is. I'm a big fan of plush, especially Pikachu, and obviously peach. You of one happens to drop outside of plush.One thing, one thing I've been really into recently, is like your nextsweatshirts. So if they have like a...

...cool sweater or sweatshirt or a Hoodie, just like, I'd really awesome branding eye look super cool. I wouldlove to have something like that. Or another thing I really like is thingsthat kind of home to Correy, kind of things that just like fit intothe home. Okay, so, you know, and it can be somethingas simple as like Mug or something as complex as like they did like silverwarerecently. All that kind of stuff I think is really interesting and it's it'sa pretty cool way to like I always like stuff that's kind of like subtle. You know, yeah, but when you have like silverware that you knowmight have like the Pika juice tail graved into it or something, that's reallycool to be yeah, yeah, we're it's not it's not hitting over theface, but it's like if you know what you're looking for, yeah,it's cool as you have something in mine. When you ask that, is theresomething I like really tickles your fancy, I just want to make sure thatI get the the box thing. I mean we're talking about that thattwenty anniversary Pika Choose Silver Pika Chew and I just I don't know that Iit's like a big regret of mine, but like it's certainly something that Iwish I had. So I want to make sure that I get something specificallybranded with the twenty five anniversary and if they're going to do some kind ofcollection and Pokemon card box that I want to make sure I grab that.Yeah, that makes sense to me. I'll probably get whatever comes out toI'm such a Sucker, like they really school the man addition stuff and I'myeah, I'm just did H. Yeah, for sure, that's hot. Isthat's let's talk about some other other news in the pokemon world. Sothere's plenty of cards that have been kind of announced here as we've progressed throughthe reveals of the battle styles cards. JW, do you have any ofthe releases from the last week or so? They're like really stuck out to you? Well, we were talking before the cast and I feel like sometimeswe have some of our better discussions before the cast. But there's the campinggear that just got released today, an or beetle from you know, presumablythat it will be released. Excuse me, that will be released in our singlestrike rapid strike set. But the the camping gear, if you haven'tseen it, search your deck for a card and put it in your hand, then shuffle your deck and if you play this card, your turn end. So that's kind of the caveat. You could search out for anything,but if you play your turn in so it's very similar to something like Stevensresolve that has seen, you know, limited play, but certainly has seenplay in the past and the right decks, with kind of the difference being,you know, you only search out one card, but you could playyour supporter for the term, you can research and camping gear. All rightthere. You know, they are pros and cons and I was kind ofthinking that this deck or this card would be maybe a little bit better thanwhat you were thinking, and I think you've ought up some really good thoughtswhere, you know, maybe in a stall type deck where Steven's resolve wasnormally played, you would just rather have this option because you could just draw, you know, kind of or and more cards, and it's more searchablethan a camping gear. Right, you can search for a for Asashin wayeasier than you can a camping gear on the first turn and you know,just maybe some other some other reasons to play, to play something like Asaphen, you know, just in general, over a camping gear where there wouldjust be more draw as supposed to searching for one specific card. And thenthe or beetle is also very interesting because we've seen this ability in the pastsee limited again, limited success and very like specific decks. But the orbitalhaving the EVO control for each energy attached to the Pokemon, you may searchyour deck for a stage to excluding other orbitle and put it on your bench. So we've seen this with crate dilly in expanded and I I want tomake sure that I'm that I'm speaking correctly, but the Craig Delly didn't have agrass cost. Yeah, the cost...

...of one grass. So one ofthe biggest differences between craydilly and the orbitle is the attack cost. So theCRAYDILLY that grass type costing that grass type, costing that grass attack cost, whereasthe war beetle can be powered up with, you know, twin ordouble colorless or triple acceleration energy and just as a lot easier of an attackor in terms of that attack cost to get going. Yeah, the theorbile actually actually does kind of interest me. Yeah, I'm trying to even kindof rack my brain and this is something I didn't really think about,you know, as we've gone through the sets until now. Is like whatkind of combinations of Stage two's are potentially good. I think the key thatthat makes or beetle, or what will make or beetle or break or beetle, is whether or not there is a combo of Stage two's that is particularlygood. Yeah, so you know, JW, you brought up like bringingup both colossals. I think there's an argument to be made that that's stilllike a decent use of it. The one colossal, obviously accelerating, seenin the Santaconda deck, the other one doing ninety damage on a coin flipfor each energy attached to it, you know, kind of a meme coinflip, you kind of deck. I think there is still value in likegetting multiple the same stage too, because it is hard to get multiple thesame stage to have in play at once. I think the real value, wherethe money really is if there's like some kind of separate evolution line stagetwo that can be played together to like some great effect. And be honest, I think pokemons kind of been meeting with their stage two's. It feelslike they're not that good. But if there is somewhere combo that there hasnever been that stage two that you're talking about where it's like, man,if only I could get this guy out. You know, it hasn't really beenlike that. I mean you maybe could make a case for something likesomething like poor Egon, you know, kind of cool. We've gotten alot of really interesting and unique special energy cards recently. Yeah, you know, that's not something that I'm particularly like, like, that's not something. That'snot a card that I look at and say, Oh now, craiydillylike opens that up. You know, now we finally can make our POORIgun deck right. And and the thing is, like the polygon, usuallyyou're just trying to play it with a stage one or something simpler anyway,whereas I feel like you need to pair it with another stage too, likereally get the value. And I can't think of Stage two off to myhead. That like really needs that acceleration. Sure, sure, I don't knowif you have one in mind. I can't think of one. Yeah, I mean expanded is probably where this or beetle is going to see themost play. You know, you just look at well Craydilli was played andexpanded, and so or beetles. Seems like it has certain certain disadvantages inthe sense that createdly was a stage one, so you could play it with theDitto prism, but certain advantages in the sense that, you know,all the things that we had kind of talked about previously with the attack costand being able to get out multiple stage two's much more easily. And soyou know, you're probably looking at or beetles being something that could potentially workand expanded and just obviously the way Widdn't card pool gives you way more optionsfor those broken combos like you're talking about. And of course, like it's stillit's something that opens the door right, like it's now worth looking at thestage two's that have come out recently and thinking about them. And it'sone of those things where it's like, you know, and it might noteven be good for the next six months, but in a year when we have, you know, our full kind of bird, I guess in sixmonths when we have kind of our full set block, right, like maybethere's something more to come out in the set after Singal and rapid strike thatmaybactually scorbutal better. So you know, it makes you think about the stagetwo's, at least, as I feel...

...like easy to write stage he's off. Yeah, it's definitely a shame. It's definitely a shame that that's thecase. It is, it is. Of course, there are more cardsthat have been revealed recently. We have a slew of these and v Maxhas I don't think really any of them. It out too much to me.I don't know if you had one in mind. They're you know,the cricket tune is good. I always like when they print those consistency abilities. So that will be very fun, I think, and just a nicelittle addition to a lot of decks. Yeah, I like it's a crickettune. I say this time and time again. I like when the WeirderPokemon that don't always get a lot of attention get a cool card like theperfect, I mean avenue for them to get a card right just like that. Goodness we don't have another Arangu row right like this could easily have beenin our anger, but there they decided cricket tune. It was the ones. Yeah, I like that. That's great. I do agree. Ido agree. I think every pokemon like that's one of the cool things aboutthe trading card game is that it does feel like they they don't try tomilk too hard. They're there kind of corner stones, yeah, the gamein terms of what decks are good and so, yeah, it's cool.Yeah, definitely seeing something like a Cricketun pop up as being a potential,you know, on to include in a number of decks is is really interesting. You also look at things like experience share escape rope. Escape Rope isdefinitely big to have back, yeah, because we silent and you p theresided about. So it makes me think. I mean maybe my big my bigkind of investment right now is ultra ball, cigaretta ultra ball. SoI'm kind of hoping that they kind of follow this demo reprints and bring usultra ball back. There you go, there you go. That's a housetaking a chance. I like it. You gotta, you gotta. Imean it is really interesting you see these reprints come back and you know,experience share something that we've seen in the past. Escape Rope is something that'sgenerally been in the game. You know, we look at war point and thennow they've kind of modified it into escape rope, and so, Um, yeah, you know, it'd be smart in those investments and take alook at what's kind of been in the format and maybe hasn't for a whileand you think might come back, because they do try to reuse these kindsof concepts. So I actually have two like to other, like kind ofsideish thoughts. They're not like super developed on some of like the V's andv Max is the mimic it's. I think it's pretty bad as it standsright now. The NM QV there for context if you're not aware. Ithas the attack envying eyes for one psychic pick three damage counters your opponents activepokemon for each price card your ponent is taken. So I mean you're lookingat up to one hundred and fifty damage for one energy, which is kindof cool but not really you right home about what it's ability is really interestingto me. So you play this ability when Minique goes under the bench andthen, until the end of your opponent's next turn, front all damage underthis Pokemon by attacks from your Pons Pokemon. I feel like if Mimi Qu hada vmax is like the perfect ability. Obviously just set that up. Soit's something to worth keeping in the back of your head. Like onethe tack is like decent and so like you could theoretically tack it into somethingtoo. You know, there I feel like there is some potential. They'reespecially if there is a v Max that comes out, and even I meanit could be like an interesting combat card as well, like stamp your opponentto one, put five, five times that. Three damage counters and theykeep the mimic you like. Theoretically can't be damage there. I think theymay. You Card is actually decent, especially if the get of emax andTapu Coco v Mac actually also kind of interest me. The attack isn't thatgreat, for it does want toy damage and if you're behind them prizes,you paralyze your opponent. But have a cocoa V has kind of been likean on again, off again thing.

And Pete Ram. So theoretically likethis could be like an evolution option. It does one hundred and eighty,which is beyond the typical cap that you can do for three energy, andP Kuram so right. I don't think it's like an obvious auto include,but I could get making its way as attack or people trying it out.Yeah, sure, and that that auto paralysis is something that, you know, Pe Kurram is really leveraged well in the path. Yeah, that waskind of my thought is you could, you know it, and it's agood thing like that. Is a little bit easier, more sustainable to getup with a ride shoe, ride shoe, but at the same time you knowthat one turn of paralysis can really swing games and if you're behind,certainly is going to help you out a lot. And well, part ofmy thought was against like v Max decks. A right shoe doesn't always do hitKo them and sure be or I choose a little bit squishier, though. You know good use cases would be like in the scent he scorch andthe turnity this matchup. You know typically in a turn of this, whatyou're going to try and do is you're going to try and paralyze the eternitythis, example in a one, paralyze the attorney this and try to gofrom there. But that's like not even a two at Ko unless you gxattack them for extra damage. Sure, or you have a bolt on onthe bench, but that's not always possible. Will like you. Sometimes you justdon't have that energy or type. Googley Max can just like swing.The attorneys can't Ko you back. So they have to have a ghost anda switch and you can do it Kaoh them. I feel like there issomething there it. Maybe it's not good, but I think there is something.Sure, there's something lurkin, there's something Larkin. That's all I'm saying. Well, good stuff. That's a that's a really good kind of overview. I mean surely there are other cards that we haven't talked about. Theweepin Bell, you know, the course that we can get. You knowwe got we got more cards out there, the colossal, that kind of thing, but these are some of the more playable cards that you're going tosee in the next set. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we could. We could touch on a lot of these. POKEMON are pretty cool,you know. They have like niche use cases or abilities. So we couldspend forever like talking about the various situations or each of these cards to use, which is good. You know, it's better than like usual like fillerkind of trash, or it has like no competitive value. Sure, absolutely, absolutely. So I think with that, let's move on to a different kindof card. What do you say, Riley? Let's do it our cardto the day. So today, I we need to get a themesong for the card of the day. What's that? We need to getlike a theme song for card of the day. Okay, yeah, imagineyou saying that and then there's like a little jingle that happens there. Whatif? What if we hired a musician? Yeah, do you have a musicianin mind? I don't know any musicians. That's a shame. Ithink you consider that there's no yeah, we can work so that out anyway. Just get some free will just rip some free music online anyway. Yeah, so card of the day is a card that I played that I wasprobably one of the well, it was the first Dick that I ever feltlike I had the perfect decklist. Like I think I am always in pursuit. We've talked about this on the cast in the past. I'm always inpursuit of the perfect sixty card decklist, like I would just want to haveevery card. I know exactly what it's for. I have the exact amountof text that I could ever want and it's never too much or too littleand all the pokemon lines are perfect and the recovery versus the disruption, versusthe draw versus the consistency is all just like it fits and it looks goodand you know the matchups, I know inside and out and I finally feltlike I had this for the first time ever, back in two thousand andtwelve it was, and I brought it...

...to a regional ended up going eightin one, lost to a dark right hydragone. This was when regionals werein Swiss rounds. They had like it was like I don't know if itwould have been like, let's say it was, you know, two hundredpeople or something. They would have nine rounds of Swiss. So kind ofmore similar to what you might see from an online limitless tournament now, whereit's just the Swiss. It's like a lot of rounds of Swiss, butit's all best of one. And then you would cut into a bracket stylefor a top thirty two, is opposed to cutting into a day two withmore Swiss, cut into bracket style, and that was pretty ruthless because youknow you would never get you know, if you ran into a bad matchupin your first round of top thirty two, then you would just be out right, even if your deck was good. There was no kind of way foryou to play around some of the bad match of there's just no leewaythat sense. So anyway, I took this deck in a top thirty twoand it was the first time that I felt like I had this card orthis list that was just perfect. And the card that it centered around wasthe dark explorers and Poleon, and so this some poleon has a diving drawability. Once during your turn, you may discard card from your hand.If you do draw two cards are very similar to Zor gx and also verysimilar to since Chino. But that very cool ability diamond draw kept the thingvery consistent. Also allowed you to play a bunch of little, you know, text right, just like ZORC would. So you could or just like evensince you know decks. I suppose could right. You're just able tosee more of your decks. You could play kind of more spooky tech cards. So the tech cards that I mostly played back then were to rack onthat was to take care of anything electric based. There were things like ZekRom Electric, there were things like dark ry, ex right, fighting weakness, so to rack. Yet had this kind of retaliate at I think itwas called retaliate. It was, yeah, work, do hundred and ninety damagefor to energy and then, you know, right swing into things thatwere fighting week and take them out of one hit. But the ampoleon wasreally cool. Had that diamond draw ability loss just set up all these texts, and then it also had a really great attack for the time called attachcommand, which trying to think of dirt. There's got to be one. There'sgot to be a pokemon that has a very similar attack right now,but I can't really think of it. But Anyway, attack command for onewater, does ten damage times and number of Pokemon and play both the earsof your opponents. So you just attack command. You know if you're ifyou're in the right point of the game. You know you're swing for one hundredand twenty four one energy, which again back then was pretty impressive.And then, if they didn't knock out your in Poleon, you could playsomething like Max Potion and heal it. And so I just really love thiscard because it reminded me of the time that I had the perfect decklist andthat I should have won a regionals, but I didn't because I started tarachyon all three games and top thirty two and then ended up losing because myopponent did like the Requisa gx milling attack as like a last hope, andhe had something like four cards in the deck and he had to not millthe catcher that he needed to win and it was the last card in thedeck and it was like so crushing, like such a crushing way to lose. Oh Wow, but anyway, I would have won the regionals. Iwas those the one that got away from me with this and Pullan, I'llalways love you. It's super cool. Yeah, that I'm pulling on iconic. It's a you know, obviously it's gotten power crept at this point inthe game, but is super cool, Super Fun to like revisit that cardas well if you're playing old formats. Yeah, and it was, Imean it was not the worst card.

If you you know, a yearor two later it was played in this and poleon dusk nor deck, Ithink in two thousand and fourteen, two thousand three hundred and twenty fourteen,somewhere on there. So to see the card like I was playing it whenit first came out and then to see other people kind of pick the deckup and or picked up Pokemon card back up and play it in a newdeck is also just very cool to see kind of the evolution of a cardthrough different formats totally agree. I agree. I'm there. You go and pullyon decks, very funesome. Speaking of Napoleon for our last topic today, and I also want to say next week is going to be a prettydeep dive and the Competiti stuff. So if you're looking at Players Cup three, definitely be sure to check out next episode. For this episode we're goingto wrap up all kind of a lighter note in honor of the twenty fiveanniversary. Want you wanted to talk about, and it's in gentially related, actuallydo another trying anniversary announcemently, don't talk about starter pokemon. So,if you're not aware, as part of the twenty five anniversary they announced thatthey're going to be releasing jumbo pokemon cards of every single starter, and thecatch is that it's the first hard of each of those starters. So youknow you have base set charm under bollostre and Squirtle, and then you havethe neos to quill and voted island chickarita and so on and so forth,and so you get all the way to stopple score running in and Grouki thoughJW in this awesome moment for pokemon starters. I question to you is for eachtype, what is your favorite starter and why? I Have Really Fundmemories of waiting in line for the Games for the for the sixth first goingto be fifth generation games with with Chesspin. I had my chest Bein hat on. I really I was the sixth generation. But yes, sir,so sorry, six generate. Yeah, sorry, sorry, sixth generation withmy chest spin hat on and just I remember that was one of the actuallythe only time that I ever went to a pre what we got it likea midnight release. Yeah, I'm a game and I just remember having areally good time when with some Michigan State people and it was very fun.And I picked chessmen because it looked like the worst pokemon of the three andit doesn't look goofy. He's very goofy, but I don't know that he wouldbe my I don't know that he'd be my top starter. Grass type, I think that has to go to Rolltt. I think Rale it isjust one of the best pokemon like just design wise, I think for methat has ever been made. And then for fire, really big fan ofSinde quill is. That was that. I would say hard gold, soulsilver were kind of the first Games that I actually like knew what I wasdoing. On my first go round of like pokemon yellow and Pokemon red andblue, I didn't quite like I wasn't quite old enough or right, yeah, quite get what was happening. I you know, something was not there. So we would just keep chat like my I remember my dad like,God bless my dad. He keep checking out pokemon on yellow for me andI would just never be able to like get past the first gate keeping activityof delivering the Potions or whatever with Professor Oak. So I'd always try torun by the bug keeper and then you know that would never work and Iand then you know, okay, three days come and you got to givethe game back. It was always sad, but anyway, but hard goold sourscausing not hard gold but silver and gold, or kind of the firstgame. So I was like Oh, yes, okay, I actually understandwhat I'm doing. So that comes with the Synd quil and so I thinkSyndic quil's one of my favorite fire well,...

...my favorite fire starter. And thenterms of water starters, yeah, I think I have to give thatdistinction to sobble. I think that Pokemon is just a really funny looking dude. He's just hilarious, a funny looking dude. Yeah, that's just veryfunny looking. What about you, Riley? Give me your give me your lowdownon starters, though, grass I have to agree with you. It'sdefinitely Rallt, although the Roulet is definitely like one of my all time favoritepokemons. Parkman, I like collect stuff for yeah, I also, though. I do. I do want to get special shoutouts to both Bullis oranger key. I think they're also really cool. I've also obviously iconic bullsor. It gets kind of the shaft. It's not like loved as much asas his brethren in Gen one, so I make sure he has alittle bit of attention there. Yeah, for sure. For Water, kindof in the same boat as you where wasn't really Mard enough yet to playPokemon, and Jen one's done one or two really. Yeah, you know, I played yellow, but my Pikachu had like three electric moves and itwas my only like leveled up Pokemon, so that was like not great.Yeah, yeah, and I don't think I ever beat silver. I don'tknow what happened there, but by the time like Ruby and Sapphire came out, I was like actually able to effectively read and comprehend information that I wasreading. So sure iconic to me is mud kit, because mud kit wasso cute, so fun. You know, he's I feel like he's a hugefan favorite. Anyway, sure you know, but that line is supericonic. It was like the first time I really beat the elite for wasfor the swamper. So I always love mud kid. He's adorable and viralvideo of my kids just chirping out each other. It's just great. Yeah, fire is like a little bit contested for me really. Yeah, whereyou whatever a fire guy, because I mean they they kind of I feellike people would choose fire starters. Always choose fire starters. I don't knowif you feel the same. Well, I never realized it until like manyyears later, but they kind of built build in this the the difficulty ofthe game starter you pick right because generally speaking, the first you know,if you look like the original games right, like brock week to week to grassright. So billb stor is like, quote unquote, the easiest one tostart with because you basically coast right through the first two gyms. Squirtle, you know you only get that one gym advantage in the first game,and then charmander, you know you don't really get that much of an advantage. Or you know there's no advantage in brack facing against brock and then there'sa disadvantage facing off against misty. So I always I didn't realize that untillater, but yeah, that built in difficulty. So I always generally straightaway from fire. It's funny, though, because fire types actually or sometimes easierdepending on the gen notably Gent too, I'm pretty sure was easiest for syndicwill because the first Gim was actually strong against a Grida. Sure that'ssaid. Fire types. My my two favorites that really come to mind.One is an old classic syndic will, syndicals my starter, and Gent toand Nicole is just so, so cute. You know you want to just givey Nicol a hug all the time, even if it might set you aflame. Awesome. So it's in the quill and his line were reallydone dirty by the transition of D I feel like. Sure, yeah,they don't look really as cool as they do in sprite form or in theircards when they, like are inactive. And like in these goofy weird poses. But well, and they and you...

...know, part of the part ofthe POKEMON is that they're their flames are not the exactly like always Sam bywould. Actually they look just very unusual when they don't have their flaming backsexactly. So then it cale is done dirty by the transition. But he'sstill so cute and no fun. So I love Syndequil the the other onethat I really like is actually score bunny. I think the score bunny line issuper awesome. A lot of people, least in my friend groups, weren'treally a fan of synd race. I think Syndras is sick. Iactually like him a lot. I like these like a little soccer player you's, and even even the middle form that like the name is. For somereason it's keeping me reboot at reboot is also is also super cute. Ilike this little mask. So they're all really good. I think I'll justI'll give it to score bunny just because he's newer and like doesn't have asmany fans as Syndicole does. Yeeah. So I love I think that wouldbe that would be a pretty fun pull to put out on the twitter pitch. Yeah, to find out what what everybody's favorite favorite starter. As tucks, you can only do for only four whole option. I know that's theproblem. There's so many starter is now, I know, but pokemon getting toobig, too big to fail kind of thing. Yeah, those aremy three, and Ngwes as well. Overall, though, I think startersare just like some of the POKEMON. They probably put the most effort inand usually they do a pretty good job with them. Yeah, I'm well, I mean then they get down to the end of the you know,the end of the line. They're like, okay, well, what can wedo? Guys? All right, let's let's animate a coffin. Yeah, it's a good idea. Okay, okay, all right. What elsecan we do? Guys? All right, let's let's annimde a teapot. Okay, all right, yeah, should you know? It's it's always someweird ghost type that's just an object. Yeah, I feel that for sure. So be sure to tweet us what your favorite starter is and which ofthe jumbo cards you're excited to pick up. I'm definitely want some of those firstgen ones. I think those are really cool. Base at reprints.Actually the first time we've gotten like digital art of base set in a while. So yeah, Yep, it's pretty cool. I A fan of that. So Tweez us. Let us know what you're excited to get. That'sat tag team pokemon on twitter, and also be sure to check out ourown personal twitters. That's at Real John Walter and at smiles with trials.And while you're in the middle of following things, do drop a follow onJW's twitch channel as well, at flex that you right, just on twitch, and this is twitchtv slash Monter, if you ever want to watch thepodcast live, which on TV slash motter every Wednesday night at thirty PM easterntime. You. Thank you. So last words before we sound off fortoday. Be sure to leave our eight and review if you're are listening onyour favorite podcasting platforms. It does help us out, helps us get discoveredand continue to grow the fan base, which is, as always, agoal because we think you guys are awesome and want to include more of you. In addition, make sure, as you get your full, as youstart to get your battle styles as chart, to look at your shining legends pokemoncards. Sure check out full GROP Games. They're great allied to thePODCASTS, and if I've really helped move us along and get some our getwayis going to showing that love helps us continue to do what we do here. And with that I think we are done. Aw, we are finalwords or we sound off. Today I have a twenty five anniversary. I'mlooking forward to exploring with you, Riley, all the different, different merch differentthings that are going to come out just in general for Pokemon and forpokemon cards. It's an exciting time right now and I can't wait to findout more. I agree. Well,...

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