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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 45 · 6 months ago

3-45. Po Ro Flo

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back and ready to rotate! Come hear some cards to look out for as we head into a new season of our beloved game!

Yo, what is up, guys? Looking back to tag team, the POKEMON Trading Card Games Premiere podcasting duo. My name is Riley Hulbart, joined as always by my fantabulist friend MrJW creewall. J W. How's it going today? I've gone pretty well. It's going to be back heck yeah, man. What's been going on inthe the world of Mr Jw Oh man? I well, I justgot back from a vacation in Wisconsin. So if you're listening to the castand even wondering what's happening to the channel recently, and I didn't upload allthis week, well, I was on vacation. There you go. MakesSense to me. Pretty Sweet. It's pretty sweet. We did a bunchof tubing. We did I tried to water ski, which I tried sixtimes, and I I was like getting better and getting better, and thenI was like you know what, I'm cool. And then we went tosee a water ski show. The longest running amateur water ski show was locatedany distinction. Yeah, located in the town that we were at, andthey are called the Minoqua bats and they do like a bunch of you know, Pyramids and they jump off the ski jumps, things like that. Themost interesting thing that they did it did the thing called barefoot skiing and,as you can imagine, they they skied barefoot, but I thought that wasexceptionally interesting. So last nating. That's pretty cool. Well, that allsounds really fun. And you got a see now and I got I see. I think I got a little bit of Sun. Things are looking upin the cree wall household, that's for sure. There you go, lookingnice and Tan. So how about you? That's been it's been exhausting. Yeah, the project that I was working on went live. The they're notentirely stable yet. I wouldn't say, you know, take some time forI want to get used to the transition, but it was very stressful over thelast week. Things are finally getting to a better place, but itwas it took a lot of direct action for me that was outside of thingsthat I really ever have to do. Yeah, so it was interesting.So that was exhausting, but I had a nice weekend out in the Sun. It was very beautiful out here. I was constant last weekend and I'mback in the swing epics. Also back in the office this week. SoI got to see some of my co workers that I haven't seen in personand basically a year, year and a half even, and it's been ainteresting week. Yep, you know. Yeah, well, you're kind ofon the outside of that project. Great on at this point. Yeah,I'm still still definitely involved and they have a face to that. I'll beworking on until October. Cool, so cool. Yeah, a lot ofgoing on, a lot of going on, but always good to be here inthe saddle with the Premiere Pokemon podcast. So much GW. A huge hottopic here in the POKEMON trading card game scene has been the future ofthe game, namely the the rotation. You know, in the absence ofa world's format, you know, are really just kind of jumping right intoit. You know, evolving guys will come out and that will be thefirst thing that people are thinking about. So, as we're talking earlier today, we thought it would be fun to kind of talk about some things thatwe think might be good post rotation. Some of them might be obvious,others maybe less so, and be it,...

...because either they're exceptionally good on theirown or because there's some sort of anslerry benefit to rotation for them.Like a card rotates out that negatively impacts them. So we have ten kindof groupings of cards, like some of them are individual cards, some ofthem are cards that kind of fit together, and we'd figure that we'd take thisepisode and walk you through those so as you prepare for the next monthfor rotation, that you have all this in the back of your head.Sergew whyn't you start us off with the first card of you're choosing from thispool? Okay, absolutely. Yeah, we thought long and hard about whatwe should include, because there are some cards that, while they may beimportant for post rotation and they may be in every single deck, they maynot have kind of a monetary increase in value. I think we kind offocused a little bit more on what's cheap. Now that's maybe a little under theradar that you want to make sure that you grab for post rotation sothat you're not caught, you know, having to pay a hundred, two, hundred, three, hundred percent more for that card or you did notdo that. Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, obviously there's a bunchof post rotation cards like the professor's research and Marnie and right looss's orderslike those are very obvious. Things, but even some less than obvious thingslike, you know, rows or Carina's focus, like a lot of thesekind of supporters, or maybe you know special energy. Those are always goingto be cheap, and so we've kind of opted not to include those inour top ten. These are just some of the some of the outliers ofthe current format that you might be interested in for post rotation, should theformat shake out in a certain way and because we're losing a lot of things, I think there are a lot of potential benefits for grabbing these cards.So the one of the first ones that I thought of coming to mind whenwe're talking about post rotation is the loss of mew from unbroken bonds. Withthat bench barrier ability, I thought, for the majority of our format newhas been, if not played in every deck, at least a threat tobe played in every deck. It can to be slotted into everything very easily. A lot of x want to have the card, a lot of xplay the card, and so there are some cards that are harmed, obviously, by playing new from unbroken bonds. One of the biggest is P KRam. Of course that's going to be rotating, but with that gx attackthat can be reek, some reef, some havoc on opposing players. Sothat's one of the use cases. Of course, that's rotating. Now lookingat to you know, other use cases, when we come up on an archetypethat has not seen much play but certainly is kind of looming in thewings as one of the better attacks that I feel like I've seen in thegame. Yeah, that just has them been played and that is of course, zero Orro these attack, as zero or V does with its fist attack. A hundred damage to the active and one hundred sixty damage to the benchif you had a rapid strike pokemon attack on the following or the previous turn, and that just seems really good. Two hundred and sixty for potentially toenergy right, if you have a rapid strike energy attached, seems quite good. You can cycle out very quickly and of course you can utilize the blazekin to get a little bit of energy acceleration. Yeah, I mean it'sthe tail as old as time, right, where you know there were some sortof inhibitor pre rotation and then post rotation it's gone. In this casethe new from a broken bonds and the doors immediately open up for new strategies. You know, we've seen this historically with, you know, cards likecarboter as well that we're, you know, pretty oppressive towards certain strategies. Kindof in a similar vein, another thing that can be oppressive to youknow, a deck's success is obviously weakness.

We talked a lot about the podcastabout how weakness is incredibly influential in the POKEMON trading card game, becausethat times too is just massive. And so another Combo of cars that Iwanted to call out is the fireweak cards. So you're talking a little bit beforethe cast about these then being corvenite vmax or beetle vmax, both thesemassive fireweek pokemon that kind of had these heel based strategies. So when yougo in a fire matchup, it's kind of like makes your whole strategy completelymoved right. So both of these cards I really enjoy. I was abig fan of like the Cheryl heavy or beetle deck, and corvenite basically playsinto the same kind of strategy where you tank a lot of hits, youheal up to full with Erald is fully utilizing the power of that card andprogressively where your opponent out of the game. It's a tried and Chooe strategy.To have this like gigantic heely pokemon and the removal of their main enginefor their weakness is notable. I will preface that by saying that VIC Tiniobviously is still around. You know, it is too energy attacker that canhit these guys for weakness. But I think Vitin doesn't like have the bestplace overall in the metagame. I would say like right, yeah, itis that two hundred and twenty damage, but so much, so many ofthese other vmax is can do such incredible things that it doesn't really feel thatspecial just to be able to do to twenty four two. Right, yeah, so that's kind of that's kind of my thought. There's just being ableto consistently, you know, have these gigantic pokemon. They're healing and dealingout tons of damage. I mean, does it seem like you go wrongwith that? No, absolutely not. And just having yeah, again,there's weaknesses that will have and flow. They are strong archetypes that will ebband flow. Fire seems solid right now in the Meta. You know,of course you're beating up on those pokemon that we just mentioned, but alsothings like Lacario, mel metal, any random zoshins that are out there in, you know, ATPDX and so fire fairly well poised. But of courseyou lose one of your biggest, you know, if not the only,main reason to play fire in welder and so. Absolutely I think that wehave an opportunity to see some of these fireweek. Vmax has see a littlemore playing. Absolutely. What else is popping up on your mind? EWSo, one other set of cards. I kind of want to group thesetogether again. Are just the auxiliary draw cards. Now again, let's talkabout first, what we're losing. We're losing one of the best draw cardsof all time into den a gx, and I losing that. There's goingto be a void to fill right the then agx very notable because you discardedyour entire handed drew a fresh six. That's great pretty much at any pointin the game. Obviously was limited that once per turn effect, which justwould have been ridiculous if that was not a part of the you know ability, since, like we had cards like Shamin that could just churn through anentire deck on the first turn. But the then a very, very strong, especially just because you could dump things that you didn't necessarily need in thoseearly turns or even those mitten light turns and then get a F chance.Yeah. So I don't want to harp on it, but like the especiallyin the current state of the game, where I feel like you can havelike a lot of clunk yeah, so good to be able to just tossit. It's it's so good. Yeah, I'm really curious how how DEX looklike next format, just because we...

...do lose that Didnne like is.I don't know how will dex we built it. It's just curious and it'llbe something that will certainly be covering here on the cast. But how dowe feel the void post rotation? One idea would be with snore lax andor since Chino. Now those cards have already seen play in the current standard, which you know, that is maybe a little bit of an indicator,right, if they're already seeing play, not in high counts, but theyhave their use cases. If they're already seeing play current format and we're losingdraw power, then certainly they would be cards to keep an eye on forthe next format. And so I think snore lax, you know, ofcourse, you have that just really nice set up and a lot of synergyactually with vmax style de x, right, because you have a one prize orin the active and then you're trying to set up three prizers. Soyou know, like with the orbital decks that we've seen in this current standard, you can go ahead and leave, you know, a store lax,maybe even to snore relaxes, active while you're setting up, get your coupleof vmax has in play and hopefully they can just sweep from there. I'mso snore lacks. I give a lot of credence for post rotation, especiallywhen we lose ATP right. That's a real benefit of having that one prizeor to set up is you just throw it active, let that take afew hits, you know, get knocked out whatever, and it doesn't reallymatter because we have those of EMAX is coming up that's going to augment theprize trade. Seven or a prize is that your opponent has to take thewin the game. Yeah, I'm just starting. Our LAX is so goodtoo. Yeah, super good. And like right now we have ATP thatkind of goes around things right where you like, okay, if he knocksout of snore lax and then and then they just have to knock out onev Max Right. So that kind of flips the whole thing out his head, maybe to make snore lacks less viable this current format the next. Butone to watch out for. Another thing, you know, we're taking away thedraw our again of the didnning since, you know, seems like an obviouskind of replacement for that as well. So since you know, does alittle bit of you know damage. It got the forty and Energy Excel. That's not too shabby. But mostly that trade ability I think I'll seesome significant play as we look to augment how we draw cards in the nextformat. A man, it's not trade, it's make do. Let's get itright. Hi, I know that. What did I say? That tradelike ability. Yeah, I totally agree, and I both of thesecards have really seen a substantial amount of play already when they're competing with theDNA. So, but the fact that, you know, to Danny's rotating,the format will likely have to accommodate that either by slowing down, whichbenefits these cards, or by just having alternative mechanisms to draw, which alsobenefits these cards. Sure. So really excited to to get my hands andplay with those. I did want to talk about another set of cards thatwe resoundingly agreed upon precast, and that's going to be the Intelli online.In very similar vein to what we've talked about with star Lacs and Gincino.Being able to dig through your deck is obviously incredibly valuable. We've seen theINTELLI online splashed into an I'm seeing number of decks in the current format withthe introduction of the rapid strike and telly on engine. So you know,what do you got going on with and telling on like? Obviously you havethe wrap strick sawble. That makes it easier to search it out, youhave the item of search drizzle and then you have both the search and thesnipe on the intellion. So just the amount of versatility that you get everysingle turn of the game where you're playing in telly on, it just opensup an absurd number of options and it's so, so good. If youhaven't tried out decks that are using the...

...itellian engine, I honestly recommend thatyou do, because it's a very satisfying game plan to play. Or you'rejust plucking exactly what you need out of the deck every turn and then snipingin the league game. It to blast, but it could be really confusing towrite it. It can be. Yeah, it can be frustrating,it can be an honestly, those decisions like which in Tellian do I evolveinto even can be really difficult sometimes. Yeah, absolutely exactly. I wasjust going to say, like, if you're playing that split of the finalstage, it can really make your head spin. You know, do Iwant that extra twenty damage? Do I want the two items? which twoitems do I want? Way Do I want them? You know, itjust there's a lot of decisionmaking, especially when you have that dual count ofintelli on. So certainly be prepared, both by playing these cards and alsobuying these cards. Do not be caught, you know, fumbling around trying tolook for your entire really like getting getting the actual and Tellian. Ifeel like the Dr's I on the SOBB will probably be fine, but gettingthe intellians themselves, they feel like that's going to be one of those cardswhere it's surprises people by like how much it spikes up. Yeah, absolutely, okay, moving on. Some of these are a little more obvious right, but they still are worth mentioning. So for me, One v Maxthat I currently don't have because I haven't played any standard format in person yet, but that I want to make sure that I have is a turn itis v Max. Now turn it is v Max. Deadlocked in this kindof you know, Dark Week Meta. Right. So you're seeing a lotof ATP Multris, you're seeing a lot of a tarnity is to try tocounter all of the shadow rider Calias. But just taking it at face value, of course we have, you know, Galarian moultras or excause we glaryan article. Is APTOS. That you know one shots the etarnity is, butthat is less of a conser say every other bird before Zamptat. It's likeit's like dad's with their children. Your Dad ever do that? Honestly thatI monded that more than my dad. But yeah, go through all theother kids and then you get to the one that you want. But anyway, so you got the Galarians, Aptos that you know takes care of etarnityis, but that, I mean, really hasn't slowed the deck down toomuch. I would certainly argue that at tarn it this is still somewhere,certainly towards the top, like third, of archetypes that you could play rightnow that are viable for competitive play. So a turn is one card orone deck, one set of cards that I would absolutely make sure that Ihave. That power is so overwhelming, especially when you get it on turnto thanks for really hard times for your opponent. Absolutely so we've reached thehalfway point of our top ten here, top ten pods of cards, Isuppose. I did want to call out some honorable mentions before we jump intothe car of the day. So one in particular that I feel like weneed to talk about, I just because I think there's some interesting conversation there, is the amazing Ray GERRACCI. That was one that people were definitely hypedup on a couple months ago, you know, looking ahead towards post rotationas potentially kind of a draw engine or, you know, drop pokemon out,and when we were building this list we weren't exactly as hot on it. I just think just the fact that that you have these options like canTali on that are much smoother and overall more reliable kind of reduced the valueof Graci, despite the fact that Gragi is a basic yep. Do youhave any further thoughts about why we might not include Rachi? But you know, it's still an okay card. Yeah, I mean Geraci is good. Again, I don't know that it, like with a lot of these othercards, drash, it doesn't seem like the card that will get particularly bigin a lot of decks. I could...

...be completely wrong about that, butit seems maybe only you know, if it were to see play, itwould see play in a select number of decks. And then again, ifit were to see play, it would probably only see play in like aone or a two count, just as I kind of pivot. Yeah,that made the light game. So you know, it's it's not quite asgood as I think we know. I think you're right. I think Gratifits in best. Is like a one of slap an air balloon on it. It's your pivot kind of card, but not as like an actual reliabledraw engine. It's not stellar wish like. We can't force it into that boxright. And we're also getting a new kind of Gerado, maybe arguablybetter GERACI, coming out in the next set, are we not? Idon't remember. Is that? Yeah, they're there it. I believe it'scoming out next set. There's a card that that you look at the topsix and you take you take an item. Oh yeah, that is coming outin bolling skuys. have to parable believe that's that's pixies. Yes,exactly. I'm forgetting the name of it right now, but but there isthat kind of that kind of card coming back. You know, Geraci inessence is coming back and then arguably better. So yeah, I think you know, with that, you look at Geraci being kind of the amazing rare, being one of those overlooked cards. You know, saw a little bitof play and things like colossal bacco nos released but never really caught on andI just don't think there's going to be space for it post rotation. Ithink that's a fair assessment. Another card that we didn't have make our listbut is notable is going to be the cricket UNE v. We are superhype on this card heading into last format with battle styles, and it hasn'treally shown up to to play. You know, I think it kind ofHarkens back to what we were talking to earlier, honestly, about dedanna beingable to think cards out of your hand. It's you find yourself in low handcount scenarios that much more rarely, I feel like in this format.Like even when I'm dead drawing off on Marnie, it's like I have fivecards. It's can't play them all. You know. I don't know ifyou have further thoughts. They're on cricket to JW. Well, I don'tknow. I feel like hands are about to get really big post rotation,like we don't have the cycling that we did. Well, that's what I'msaying. That's what I'm yeah, yeah, it's like cricketoon just doesn't seem asgood. I mean I guess if you're like parent crickatoon with rows,which which we haven't quite done yet in this format but I guess could bepossible in the next format, that's valid. That's but you're never really getting thosesmaller and sizes. Yeah, I would agree. So I would agree. Yeah, Kricketine really hasn't shot out to play and I there's going tobe less options to make your hand reset next format. So I don't reallyand there's also we lose reset stamp as well. So like you don't needthat same insurance. That you may have used to. So I don't reallysee Krakatoon getting any better post rotation. Right exactly? Any other mentions youwant to give tow honorable mentions? I mean I was thinking about you knowagain, like maybe there's some other vmax archetype that gets a little bit betterpost rotation. We lose Pekarram of course, the lightning type, so maybe there'sa thought that a water vmax gets significantly better the two right now thatyou think of our course lappers and then telly on but it. Those wouldbe, you know, a couple of honorable mentions. I'm always going tolove and telling on. I don't know, I don't even know. It ruinedyour life. Yeah, it absolutely did. I I we can laughabout that now. It's all good, Um. But yeah, I thinklike those, those two could be good again. You're losing a weakness.That's pretty bad, but you're not really...

...hitting anything for weakness. So youknow where that leaves you. I'm not entirely sure, but certainly there's roomfor those to be good, especially with the deck, like I can tellyou on that can too. Shot disrupts some energy and or like the thelambers Fomax, that can just go ahead and one shot anything in its path. Absolutely perfect. So let's transition then into our cart of the day.Sir Jw, I have a POKADEX entry for you, and if you canguess the Pokemon, I will give you five dollars. Okay, so polkadx entry is as follows. Don't Google. Okay. They gather on moonlit nightsto form a large chorus. Their cries sound angry and not at allpleasant, but they are certainly distinctive. I feel like I know this.I say one more time, all right, one more time for all the money. They gather on moonlight nights to form a large chorus. Their criessound angry and not at all pleasant, but they are certainly distinctive. Okay, so I'm just thinking of the the Pokemon anime, and there's there's acouple of times where pokemon gather round and like they might gather around quite frequently, but they like all sing to the moon. Yeah, you remember thedo you remember the Venus or episode? I do. Yeah, yeah,that's like what I'm thinking about. I'M gonna say? I think, Ithink I'm going to say cliff fairy. That's a good guess for sure inline with the anime. Unfortunately, it is not clif fairy. You can'tget a second guess for one dollar if you'd like. Well, my secondguess would be would be bulbous. Or then it's not bolmos are either.So that's the card of the day. Is polytoad x from x unseen foris polly toad cries to the moon. Pollytoad, they cry in the Moon, all right, in a large chorl. Well, yeah, I had noidea. It's kind of a thing. That is crazy. So the thereason that I chose polly toad X is twofold. First, it isa long time staple of our good friend Neale shampay's old decks where you playwith the fossils and it's just a ton of fun. But also, Iwas in kind of a nostalgic mood today. I was talking to one of myfriends the other day and just thinking about cards that we enjoyed together andwe really enjoyed cards with interesting attack names, and Poly Toady X is probably theKing of interesting attack names. It has three attacks, all of whichyou could call interesting. It has upward, lick, punch and run and swallowup as it's three attacks. Bloods, that's just three bangers in a rowright there. That's so true. So, I mean you can,like, if you google like funny pokemon attacks, like you'll see all threefrom this polly down. So that's just so cool. The cards is awesome. It has this his tongue like sticking out like ready to slap someone withhis upward lick, and it's actually got...

...place in a deck, which iseven cooler. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to be on the receivingend of one of them upward licks. You Punch and run is a legitimatestrategy. Punching and roll. What do you play it with? You playit with just a bunch of the fossils from the time they didn't give upa price. So it's like a down fan. Yeah, it's kind oflike a down fan deck. And then you could also do like other cooland then you have swallow up and upward look like alternate options. Yeah,wow, so super cool. Guard definitely recommend check it out. If youhaven't seen it before, and you're lucky, you may hear a polytoad seeing ina chorus in the night. I wonder what that sounds like, apparentlynot good, but it is distinctive. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Withthat, with the blessings of polytoad behind us, let's jump back in tosome of the cards that we're looking at for post rotation. Since we didtalk about eternity is, I think it's only fair that we talked about somemore the obvious offenders here, one of the most obvious ones being shadow rider. Callie REX. If you haven't picked up shadow rider already, I wouldlook at doing it sooner than later, because what will inevitably happen is whenwe start to learn more about actual sanctioned events coming, the prices of importantcards like shadow rider will sky rocket. Yes, so shadow rider. Youall know the drill. You know why this card is good. I don'tneed to harp on it for you. I recommend getting it if you planon playing it any time soon after rotation, and it's relatively cheap. I'm sureif you bought from a local card store you could probably and they,assuming they had a full place, that you could probably get it for aroundeighty dollars. I found for shadow rider on TCG player or Ebay, likea play set, and I bought them each for five dollars, which youknow I mean fine right, for for arguably one of the better cards inthe game, and then for the v Max's, they go somewhere between fifteenand twenty five dollars. So again, if you're listening to this cast andyou think like maybe this would be a deck that you would, you know, at least look into playing at some point, like the alchemy shadow rider, which is probably going to be the way you play heading into heading intopost rotation, then certainly pick yourself up a place out of these guys.And I would also say in that vein, if you think that Alchemy is superiorversion, which it seeming more and more like it might be, getthe alchemies as well, because those aren't super easy to find, like juston a pure pack perspective. So he don want to end up with yourpants down that one. Yeah, for sure, and this I mean frankly. This also goes for for online as well. Yeah, Oh, yeah, sure, you know, certainly soon like make sure that you're getting thesecards too, because we've seen some ridiculous spikes from cards that do not deserveto be worth as much as they're worth in the online game and yet forsome reason we see they just like overra seeing cards just go to obscene values. What was one that you remember recently? I think the most obvious offender wassham and e x went up to like a hundred and ten dollars afterrotation that year. That's so crazy. Yeah, probably was also really bad. Really, I didn't think Tapulelah was all that bad. It's about upto like eighty, I think. Eighty for one. Oh my goodness.Think so. I think back when I think of like a card spike,I think of like Shining Lugia. That one was so random. That wasdidn't that jump to like forty or sixty dollars? Yeah, that one waswas bizarre. That one was crazy,...

...man. And the cards all playat one of bed. So yeah, no, no, not true.It's all play like two events, didn't it? Didn't that see play inAustralia and then it saw playing like Philly, and then that was pretty much it. I was really only thinking of Philly. Yeah, so, inany case, get your creamies, get your cream get your shatter rider.Don't be caught. Don't be caught. Slip in on those. That's right, Jerry. What's next on the docket? Here. Well, we got another, again obvious one, but people haven't played in a long time andthey're probably people listening to this cast that got into the POKEMON trading card gameover pandemic. So if you're one of those people and you just need anotherreminder that again, this is one of the best cards and you should makesure to pick it up. Grab Yours option bes. Grab Yours option be'sgreat attack, excellent ability. This card can be played in just about anydeck. I mean for the ability alone right there, those first few turnswhere you're looking for resources in a lot of decks, like it doesn't makesense, and a lot of decks, but like it's certainly could be playedin pretty much any deck just for that extra draw power. And who knows, again, we're talking about kind of the Dedann a. You know what? Replace it to Denn a if very well, could be for a numberof decks ostion, just to build that hand up in the early game.Yeah, attack is Great. That doesn't change still has, you know,a lot of the tools right. It's got your mental saucers, has gotBronzong, it's got the GALERIAN mealth perserker line, it's got the rusted swordlike there's still a number of of cards that interface extremely well. Was Ashen, so just make sure you have your place set. Of course there's alot of versions out there. You got the gold, the you know,it was the ten full are, the tin, you know, etc.But those could still certainly spike, no doubt, absolutely, and it's acard that you need for sure, but you can seem like pures Oshi anddecks like do well and post rotation events. So yeah, slippin. Yeah,I'll go over one more obvious one and then our last two will besome some more more hidden offenders here. So that's going to be rapid strikeor SFU VMAX. Again, some wonderbout JW is saying. A lot ofus have really only played online over the last year and may not have pickedup some of the staples from the last couple of sets. So even thoughrapid strike is in a worst position now because of the rise of shadow rider, it is still a phenomenal card to have a specially if things like zeroaura or a turn it is continue to thrive in a post rotation format.You know rap strike and come in and really capitalize on those. Rap Strikealso benefiting similar to the Aurora, with the removal of mew from the format, being able to use its gmax rapid a flow much more freely, whichwas truly an inhibitory part of that. That like not being able to useyour second attack to its full effect almost ever right to being able to useit whenever you want. Rapper strike can really prey on slower decks that aretrying to set up by just slamming rapid flows on them quickly. So definitelynot a card to sleep on. It's going to still be good and evenif shadow rider is still the best deck, there will be dark decks that aretrying to capitalize on that, and wrapper strike takes advantage of those nicely. Yeah, no doubt. I think that rapid strike or really skill basedcard. You got the couple of attacks, you can snipe, you can domore damage to the active. I mean it's one of those cards thatcertainly is favors the better players that play...

...it, and I think that'll beno no difference. Certainly post rotation you get a little bit of I don'tknow if you want to call it like there's some flavors that you can playwith right like currently we're seeing tapucco go into some of these rapid strike decksto get that energy acceleration so that you can do the gmax wrap of flowback to back a little bit easier. I think post rotation, I meanof course we lose the tape of Coco, but you could play it with somethinglike the blaze Kin, you know again, right, or if you'refine really crafty, you could go for the Glarian multraus energy switch. Thatcould be another possibility. Right. So there's some flavors that we're not seeingright now, but certainly post rotation we could see be played a little more. Absolutely, JW, we're on the home stretch. What you got right? Yeah, my last card here is hound doom. Hound doom. SoHound Doom, the single strike, of course, Hound Doom, not thatthere's, I think, any other round doom, but the single strike.How doom with it. Is there another hand doom? I think there isone in standard but not one for post rotation. Okay, that's as wonderingif they're like a sword and shield. Hound doom isn't a single strike?No, no, I think I don't think there's another sword and shield.Yeah, that no wrongs thinking. Okay, yeah, you got it. Sosingle strike roars the ability. Of course you search your deck for asingle strike pokemon or single stroke energy and you attached to one of your singlestrike pokemon. This is just gonna be good because at some point they haveto release a good single strike, you know, a good single strike pokemor do that way. Well Fair, but you know, it's one ofthose cards that you want to have around because when they announced that new singlestrike pokemon that does have much better synergy than what we've seen come out,I want to be prepared. That's kind of my my thought on this card. How doom energy cell oration from the deck for essentially free, as always, really nice. It just needs that pairing to make it really work.We've seen it work with with the single strike Ersia food. Not a baddeck and arguably gets, you know, maybe a little bit better poised.Arguably, again, there's probably going to be a very significant psychic contingent,which is one of one of the biggest weaknesses of the deck. But arguablygets better. But I think, I think you know that one has alwayskind of stayed in that tier to or lower list the hound doom Ershia food, but I think yours. What's that? Also Tornados? Tornatus? Yeah,you could also play with Tornados. And then there's there's bound to beif we keep up with this single strike, rapid strike kind of printing of cards, there's bound to be something good for only fair. I'm gonna it'sonly fair. It's only fair. Such a good ability. Yeah, it'sjust a huge fans in our strikes. You know, I'm going to bepicking up my hand dunes, even if it means that I'm going to justbe slamming tornatis and in are she feah. There you go. Awesome. Sothe last card here today is more of a fun one, and butI think it is notable. H Jw, this actually was your idea initially,but I kind of vibe with it the longest from sitting on my screenhere, and that is the toe a Kiss v Max line. So ifyou're unfamiliar to to Kiss v Max, basically do one hundred and twenty fourtwo and you can search out a couple of cards in your deck for yournext turn, very similar to cards like sylvion from the GX era. accepted. Actually just damage to it apply if...

...that offensive pressure while searching out yourdeck. So typically you'll see toga kiss in standard it'll be played with someof these more heey cars, kind of like corvenite and or beetle. ButI think the reason I actually like toby kiss even more is that post rotation, in my mind, is likely signaling the start of events happening soon again. And there's actually been a decent amount of success with Toga Kiss and expandedit's been a pretty successful archetype and it seems all the all the more wellpoised. And this is like just one of those things where you know ifyou slip on cards that are going to be good, they end up bitingyou right, right. And it's cheap again. It should be, youknow, somewhere between two to five dollars right right now. Tok a kissis a bulk V v Max, so not too expensive. But it's oneof those cards again, you know, you could see it go, certainlyfive to ten, maybe ten to fifteen. Right, it could sneakily sneak up, just depending. SNEAKILY SNEAK UP. So nickeli snake up. You knowhow as you do, as you do, for sure. So yeah, certainly one of those cards that you'd look at and say hey, Iwant to pick up a pair or place it while it's cheap. For Real, for Real, especially if that's a strategy that you enjoy and no harmin it. Absolutely not. Especially especially if you're in a region that hasexpanded events regularly. Oh, totally yeah, in America there's almost no excuse notto have a place at a Toka Kiss, in my opinion. Absolutelyso that brings us through. Are Ten things to watch out for in postrotation. Obviously there are things that aren't on that list that you should makesure that you have taken care of. Make sure you have your boss's orders. Your research is your Marne's, your quick balls, all of that,your energy like those are those are definitely here to stay. But we wantto try and point out some things that maybe will will change in the landscapeof post rotation. If there are cards that you're wondering if maybe they'll havea better position post rotation, some general rules of thumbs that we used is, does it lose or gain a notable weakness? Does it have a kindof inhibitor card that is leaving or entering the format? Maybe that wouldn't beas present otherwise? Or generally, is the power level of the format shiftingin a way that's beneficial. One other thing that I'll emphasize as well iswe didn't call our path to the peak on the list, but I thinkit is another kind of honorable mention because really the stadium game is is shifting. There's no more chaotic spell and there's no more marshadow, so stadiums havea lot stronger of a position on the board. So I would say pathto the peak is an obvious one where it has benefits. There the reallyevery stadium in a way kind of has a power boost from those cards exitingthe format. So make sure that you're taking a look at at all thestadiums you have at your disposal, but path of the peak especially, andif you're deck is week to path of the peak, find another stadium thatwill counter. Absolutely. Yeah, stadiums are going to be some whole newball game because, yeah, again, paths of peak very good and I'mjust so excited to see how these archetypes play out. Absolutely, I'm excited. I'm excited. It's the new new age once again, the POKEMON tryand card game. Yes, and I you know, would when vmax iswere first announced. I think the general sentiment was man, you know,more three prize Pokemon, like can't we...

...go back to the good old daysof one prizers? But I think the more that we shift into sword andshield only. You know, there have been a few events online and Ithink they've been generally well received. But the more that we shift in andobviously with post rotation, I think people are going to really enjoy the healthof the format. I think there's a very nice counterplay between do you wantto play? You know what kind of Drawingsen do you want to play?How do you want to build your deck? What's supporting attackers do you want touse? I think there's a lot of decision in terms of deck buildingand so I think that'll make for a really good format. Yeah, I'mdefinitely excited and I will say even when tag teams are rotated, the tagteam podcast will stay true. We are not changing to the v Union podcastor anything crazy like that. So you can feel free to stop asking andwith that, be sure to check us out on social media in case youneed any updates about whether or not we're changing the name of the show.You can find us at smiles with Riles, Real John Walter and at tag teamPokemon on twitter, and if you want to watch us on twitch,either to catch the podcast live or see any of our live streams, youcan find us at monner and at Flex Daddy righteous. That's right. Weappreciate you, guys, hanging out with us here, whether you're listening onthe cast or whether you're listening over on your favorite podcasting platform. We justappreciate you and you're a listenership. Thank you so much and we'll catch youall next time. Peace. So You.

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