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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 30 · 7 months ago

3-30. Rapid Striking Battle Styles

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are fresh off of Player's Cup III, and have some fresh takes on the Battle Styles metagame and how it is progressing. Come check it out!

Yoo, what ies up guys looking back totag team, OOK on Trading Card Games, premier podcasting duo, my name is RalyHolbert joint, as always by my very blurry friend Mr Ju Cree Wall Av, youhows it going today. I am so pixelated yeah, it's unbelievable! I don't know,I don't know what it is like there's! No, it was weird because it was finefor just like a second there and your audio is coming across really good. So I I couldn't tell you man. This is oneof those just Internet addities. We had that same problem last week, but aslong as the audio is good, I mean I'll. Take it right as a podcast. He podcastat the more important ele as long as you can hear me, then thatwill be okay, but I'm doing okay Ralley, I just I'm like so busy. I'm way busiernow than I ever thought I would be, and I don't know how I'm keeping it alltogether sounds kind of stressful. When you putthat I mean my plan this morning or or for tomorrow morning, is to wake a boutthre ND thirty. So I could finish some homework and do some reviewing beforemy class hes, because I didn't have enough time to do it today. Oh Wow, sopretty crazy. But what about you riley anything new, nothing, nothing too wild! I are playing this humary three D worldgame with my friend playing coop, and that was pretty fun. Now bit switch. IDHON' that that it's been a relatively low key like a week or so very busy hat a new product at work ouknow than I expected so kind of like compounding things at once.Right now, but not terrible at the moment, I'm gettingmy Gotsha yeah for sure, but there has been plenty of stuffgoing on and poke in the the last week. Poke just doesn't stop it reallydoesn't. So if you're unaware lispling on aware theotbon Players Cup, three qualifier at least the first part of it- happened this past weekend. So if youqualified, with qualifier using Aur tournament keys, you got to play andyour a top TVD six or hundred and twenty eight for your region and the top sixteam players from all ofthose are moving on to the next Tran eflimination. So got a lot of cool infote coming out ofthat and before we get into that, though, we want to talk about our ownexperiences in the Players Cup. So I should have you talk us through yourexperience. You got to Buyin that First Tran for your awesome placement. Youknow I did yeah and that's one of the things that I think a few people maynot know about the Players Cup qualifiers that you know you make itonto this next day and it's in a racket style at least the way that they'vedone it all three times and so there's potential for there to be bys, becausepeople will just drop, you know or they won't register in time. So the higherup. You are the more likely you're going to get a by right becausethey'll pair you, if you're the number one seed, then you'll be the firstperson to get a by if someone has to drop or again doesn't submit thecorrect deck list anyway. So I had a a by on the first round and then funny enough. Both opponentsfor round number two also didn't show up. So I started off to and ou in theplayers cop and I won my next two games. I played against a sent o scorch deck,which I was really hoping to play. I really enjoyed that match WBUTE I wasplaying it turn it his hammers and I was hoping to see a lot of Sentoscorge and just general firedeck and Bekarom. Those are kind of the thingsthat I was really hoping to see. ADP generally a good matchof for the deck, and so then I played against a mirror, but they had instead of thehammers, they had a Galarian wheezing, which was kind of cool. The glarianwheezing line could have gotten me into trouble a few times, but luckily I hadeither the switch in hand or the Gust when I needed it just to kind ofcombact what they were trying to do, so that was nice and then also having thehammers in the mirror match when they do not have hammers also producesgenerally favorable result. So up until that point, I hadn't lost a game andthen I face against the deck that I really didn't think would see much playin Players Cup and that was luke metal...

...and I just kind of didn't tech at allfor look metal. I had some things that I could do, but you know I wasn'trunning spirittum, which is really dark: Heavy hitter into the Zamazenta, and Ionly was running Evaltul, and so my opponent, just you know, didn't makeany misplays. They drew very well, and you know they got out ther Zamozentazand really nothing else and just played the match UF beautifully, and so theymoved on as five and o into the next round of play that dropped me into theloser bracket. Unfortunately, I had to wait a long time, for you know a bunchof rat. I think I had to weigh two or three rounds, because the whole ideawith this double Alim system is that you can play a head of your round, soyou could potentially finish very quickly and then you know it lessensthe amount of people that are waiting around right. So it's kind of acourtesy extended by the judges so that people can play ahead finishearly and then go get on with their day, which I like, but there's also someproblems with that. As I saw heading into my last round where I was I wasoff for about two hours or so, maybe maybe even a little bit more. I don'tknow I'd had to check the tapes on that, but it was. It was certainly a Largasoone on the tapes for sure it was certainly a long time. I playedsome chess on the stream and I don't know just chatted and stuffwith the viewers, but I wasn't I don't know there wasdefinitely a break where I wasn't quite the freshest anyway. I don't mean toset that up to like blame the break as to the reason that I misplayed horriblyto lose in the last round, but I'm not saying there wasn't anyinfluence of that. But, yes, I played against an itelion deck in my lastround and that's a pretty terrible matchup. The first game I lost they had they were able to get their wondrouslabyrinth to stick, and I wasn't able to find my power plant stadium to negate that andthey just got off to a quick start. They hit a bunch of hammers and thingswere really bad. The second game I was able to get some energy into play viathe power accelerator attack off the aternitist, and I was able to kind ofwithstand the early hammerbarage. They didn't quite have a good start, and soI was able to overcome like just barely, though again, it's a really bad matchup. They have the Keldio for that gx attack and that can just blow out aturn. It isis out of nowhere, and so it can be really rough and then the thirdgame I go to make a gust play on a benched intellion a had some damage onit and I just miscalculated the damage. It wasn't a guaranteed victory for me.If I take the knockout, but it was, I put myself in a really good spot if Itake that knockout, but I just didn't bench a POKEMON and I ended up beingtwenty damage short, and that was just an egregious era. I wasgoing through my mind and like thinking, okay, I want to save US bench spot incase I need to Crobat later, but there you know there was no reason to do that.Readt. I need to take the knockout, so I made a really bad misplay and it costme that round- and that was that was my tournament yeah really unfortunate and there you know if at least, if it's somewhatconsoling, it wasn't guaranteed Wan if he took the knock out at the very leastt right. At least you didn't completely, you know, take it from zero one hundredtezero right so but yeah that was really unfortunate.You know it's funny, because you would last week's emphasize like yourimportance, Ta, like saving spaces for Co. I know that's that's why my mindsetwas there right, because I was like okay. I need to make sure that I haveenough. You know space to devote to a Crowban in case. I need to do it and Ijust I just didn't. I just didn't think about it. You know it was actually kindof like that over overpreparation. In my mind that maybe hurt right, becauseI could have just been like turn it Tis do big damage, you know and like slapeverything down right. That would be what you know. Eighty percent of theplayer base might do, but I didn't, and then it cost me so hey who knows n yourbrain was simply too big in that moment. That's right, that's right! Well, Ithink that I think you still a lot to be proud of like your deck as reallysolid. It flowed really well throughout the day. So how do Infortu were? How did yourplayers Co run? Go righly mine was not nearly as smooth. I didn't get thebenefit of a nero show, which is unfortunate. I know, but so I was playing pekrum. I waspretty confident and it was a kind of last minute choice. Iwas going to plea Turnntis as well, but I thought Pekeron with a couple. BigCharms was a pretty good choice, and so...

I ran that and I ended up just having some reallyunfortunate games, so I played against the Sanny scorch and honestly, I feltlike I played a lot better than my bonit ther round, but sometimes tenniscorch doesn't does sounds cort things and completely steam rols you so that happened and I was a losesbrack. At that point I beat n ADP pretty soundly after that, then I lost to a mirror pretty soundly. No, it is what it is. Sometimes.Sometimes it's a four versus o your on Hamers. Sometimes you get Sono scirs,it's kind of the nature of the formar right now, but I still have fun playing. I thought:Pikeramo still saw a choice as I eicited the tournament, and I think myopponent actually, who beat me in losers, actually went on to qualify. Soyou know good for him as well. He played really solidly in Hart Games. Ithink his name is Ugar Yeah aified right, yes, stand here, barrit you canchoot in Zecron. So overall you know looking at how thingsended up taking away from our personal experiences and we'll talk more about oknow coming back from refronds later, at the end of the day, the across allthe regions, interntiss was the most dominant deck, followed closely byArces, Tagan, Palgia and PKROM, with thirten eleven and ten playersrepresenting those decks respectively. What I found most interesting, though,was a lot of these regions have like a most dominant deck. That was differentthan their other regions as wes, so a consistent trend so like NA and Oceanahad the most paper OMS by far, whereas EU in particular had the most atps by alot sure. So I don't know if there's like jisinherent differences, metagame that results in this or if it's just likethe top players or different opinions, and they play different decks. Ithought was really interesting to see like it's so different across these regions.You know, like the Cross sections, aren't even at similarorks sure yeah. Let's talk, though, about you know Nayou know being in a players ourselves. Let's give a quick shout out to all theplayers Ho made it into that top sixtean bracket. So looking at thewinners pool, we have Christian chase with Peka. shooind Zecron will Crawfordwith a Carol NA model. Mik Buchet with Pigatuan Zeram, Andre Cabodon withitturn. His fmax is crushing Camer, just like JW Azul, with Tempa ZardTehagumadi. We have ATP Kim Hunsu with turn with sorry Cento scorch and KevinCrige with CIDI Yencon in there is the one decigoy and all Fliers Cup, whichis pretty cool, very cool Kevin likes to play those kind of off metadecks andit's good to see him perform. While again here, Yeah Cevin's, an awesomedude to we'v, had on the cast Thomas Broofy in the loser bracket withSana Scorch, having Campbell with you CA, choons Zat, Crom, injry Hedrick,with Tamposard Dan Hugar, with Picatunan Zerom Jram Morsa WIS sent Ocorge vmax Mama Network coming in Clark. Yeah! Congratulations to her. I mean Idon't know the age of anyone else in this player's Cup, Oh ell, I mean, Iknow the relative age of a lot of these people. Tat Joan with gotta, be got to be the oldest O, know,gotto be the oldest n and the cool. As for sure D, that's definitely tees.Congratulations, and might I also point out very pominent.You know female player, so just really cool to see kind of an older femaleplayer t just going to show that anyone that puts in the time and the effortcan be good at this game, and you know that's just great to see therepresentation there and you know, maybe even inspiring other. You know other older women or or justwomen in general, like I think it's a great story, so I hope she doesparticularly well A. I hope she makes out of losers and goes on to win thewhole thing. Yeah, Joan wors, having like such goodruns and she's been doing she's done well ind. A lot of these online eventsis, is super cool and it's kind of heartwarming an as well, because youknow like she got into this game with her son, obviously being sceliasnetwork Luke, Marsa and she's, not only having fun with it, but she's doingreally well yeah for sure jis going down the last couple: decksthere Gup Lake Tenan, I blake Ennington with the Croma metal, Jeremy Risig withthat intellion deck and Andy Zayng with Santi Scorge, though pretty widevariety of decks there, Peter Omin, seny scorcs, getting the mostrepresentation in the NA, which, honestly, that kind of doesn't surprise me a ton andI'm just based on like the players that you know. We anticipate this Inis wordbeing a pretty big factor coming to this tournament. I think both oure decks voices kind ofreflect that as well sure being a turnist and peekeron trying to have agood as match, if as possible into...

...senny scorge, what I'm kind of surprised about inNais the lack of eternitis in EP in top sixteen, do you have any idea why thatmight have happened? Yeah, I mean it's really hard to say. I think that, honestly, I thought it wasprobably the best deck coming into the weekend. I mean people would argue thatSenta scorch has a at least evend a favorable match of against Aternitis,but that really hasn't been my experience. So I don't know people mayhave been playing Wacky attornatis list, so I ve one thing that I've been seeingrecently has been atternedis with weevisle and that's to kind ofcounteract the just amount of crushing hammer that there athat there is in theformat, because you can, you know, take some damage with theactive vmax and switch into the bench and then move all the energy up to anfresh Vemax, and in that way you can kind of conserve those energies. Youdon't have to find those attachments or or get ahead on the on the energyattachment. So you know there's been that, but that takes away maybe alittle bit of of consistency, Yore trying to fit in a you know, sneezl wee B to to Sneeza webio line a lot of those decks play the dark rye for that gx attack. That canitem lock. I mean there's some things in there that kind of takeaway totract from the general consistency of the deck. So that couldbe a reason again. I played against a player who had a wheezing line, whichI just don't. I just don't think really fits with thewhole idea of eternitiss. To me, atturnitis is that kind of deck thatjust attach attach swing for O hwudred, AD eventy and like, if you do that youknow that's your that's your game plan right. It's very much a cut and drydeck and I think a lot of people are trying out new n and interesting anddifferent things, but I think maybe that leads to a lack of consistency. Yeah. I definitely think that's a partof it for sure. I also kind of have a hunch that maybethe Crim my medel was more popular than we anticipated in North America atleast, which definitely serves to you know the Tenes atrement yeah. Ithought that Pekanchun Zecrom, that would have been my choice, but I wasthinking a lot about how much how much atterniis there would be. Ithought you know okay. Well, I can't play Pica Chon Zat round, because notonly is a turnit is going to be a big deck, but ATP also is going to be. Youknow very heavily played, and now with that rested, sword is going to have amuch better time trying to swing into the peaks and the aloan Rideshe andriot ugx. So that to me also like seeing four peakechuns Zecrim from theNorth American bracket was very surprising in my opinion, because Ithink you you know you take that very bad matchup to aterninists and thenprobably a less than favorable matchup now to ATP yeah, and I think the theme here is. You know looking back on the himidmulti voltage Menagame, you had these like really andout decks, and you knowyour walder decks. Your ATPS, your Turnis is, and your pekerons withLecarn Omotelis, like a counterdack on the side and really, if you pick amongst thoseand have a solid list, you have a decent chance of doing well, is kind ofwhat I'm taking away here. Yep. Absolutely good luck to everyone thatis playing in the the next stage. This weekend, Ireally excited to see what what dexs do well absolutely ompletely. I also justwant to give a quick shout out to the two coolest decks that were able tomake it through that being Charzarg from vivid moltage and Gramaran Vmaxfor Yugon Z, both of which are just in the same Liy,alesom yeah, that's so wild. I can't believe it when I saw Robin winning.You know he was like three o four. Oh, I was like. Oh my gosh. This isunbelievable and gowing a perfect FIO with cram. I mean you know it makessense. I guess, like it's kind of one of those experts like Oh yeah, I guesswe were sleeping on it the whole time, because you just have such good oneshop potential and you have such good control of the board with that. Just CRAMRAV sniping oneprize dex. You know it's like you, have pretty strong, strong board position rightgenerally speaking, so si think your combination, ofyen rea,you catch being so powerful, like you said, the sniping being so good andhonestly throughout the name like you instnected Denas, you can snipe, youknow, set up pokmonn, all sorts of crazy stuff and then yeah that one shotpotential that very few decks can actually want chout of evacs, so yeah.True, I feel like any time you can do that. That's like notable right rightand then you also look at...

...you know you look at the Europeanmetagame and and at least the decks that came out they're, not necessarilyindicative of what the metagame was like, but therere like you said, Europedidn't really like Pikachuand Zecrom, so you know you're not getting as long asyou're not getting hit for weakness. I feel like as a as a crimer VEX player,you're, pretty happy to play just about anything, so itw'll be interesting tosee if Robin makes it on to the final for in Europe. Absolutely, Let's shift this discussion,though so dw talked about now kind of having aheartbreaking finish there in that last round. Ind Losers, you know heartbreaking grounds arecertainly not an uncommon thing when you're playing in these Okeonteurnaments- and sometimes it's not even your last round. Right like you,might have just a a really rough go midway through your tournament. Whatkind of tips would you give to our listeners when you end up in those kindof situations or even if you'R mid game, and you realize that you've made anerror? How do you kind of like recover yourmentality and keep pushing yeah? That's a that's a really greatquestion. Well, I think I think it obviously means way more when you're inthat kind of final round or you know, if you win, you make it on to anotherstage or you make it onto you, know top ait or or you win. You Know Your infinals n and you make a blunder that would cost you a championship orsomething like that, like the the stakes are definitely higher in thoselater round situations, and I just want to say like if you find yourself therelike for me, I just feel blessed to be there. You know I've been there so manytimes so at not not to like Brag. I just sayinglike that. It's that I feel very blessed to like have the opportunity tolose it all. You know at any point right like that is very special to methat I've been able to put myself in those situations where it's very highpressure and not everyone gets those opportunities. Not everyone has themeans to travel to tournaments or has the time to play these really longonline tournaments, I mean it's just a you know it's a blessing for sure, so thin in the game that I lost. I was prettyupset, I think, about mindset right after the game, because it was a verystupid er. The deck isn't particularly difficult to run. Turniis doesn't havetoo many. You know spooky things, but I was playing against a really toughmatchup and I felt like if I could get that knockout there, that I could sneakone. I could sneak a you know a very unfavorable matchup into into a win forme, so I was pretty devastated there and obviously the recognition of beingin top sixteen is is really nice but Yeu. Just for me. I just remember thatyou know my life doesn't revolve around the game so who I am, as a person isn'ttied to my performance in the game. I think that's really important, for that was an important lesson for me tolearn as a younger kid. I think you know if you're, if you're, older andyou're playing the game, I think you probably understand that to a degree,but you know your performance doesn't dictate who you are as person. So thatis certainly something that I hold fast to and then in terms of yeah, just just being in that momentand and losing. I think about the Times where I've beenin that moment and I've won, and I empathize with my opponent and likesaying this- could be that the you know the happiest time that they've ever hadlike playing the game, or this could be one of their biggest their biggest wins, or something likethat. You know for somebody to o perform well, like my defeat might besomeone else's. You know greatest victory or happiest time or somethinglike that. Like there's, there's something to be saidabout my opponent doing well, you know Idon't know, there's some kind of I'm almost happy for them in a way thatthey got to achieve this. This win and yeah. I have to remind myself that youknow I was in that position before, where you know. Maybe I was on thefavorable end of a misplay that pushed me into some next next Rond. Icertainly have stories about that too, but yeah just kind of recognizing that okay, you know theopponent. Maybe that was a big. Maybe that was a big deal for them and Ishould be happy that that they were able to. You know, findfind success. Yeah absolutely I mean I would kind of continue to say, and we saidthis lot on Ontag team as well as you...

...know, don't let your like reflect onyour individual Wunders or when you have a rough game and like take what you can out of that, butdon't want those to find you don't, like your whole experience, be takingdown by one event or you know, one off game. You know find the chance when yourcalmer, to like look back and see how could you improve and it might have eenhonestly, like especially in this online era, were you guy? You canrecord your games pretty easily. You might notice more than you evenwould have thought about like even then yeah, even in those blunders, Oh yeah,so true, so true Yoas, I thinks they don't like your mistakes to find youlike your growth and you'r continued like movement forward, you hant to findyou instead yeah and then you know when it comes to making a mistake in thegame. Like you know, if you realize your blundermid, midgame or midturn you just you can't you can't go back.You know. That's that's thing. I don't ges oeone Yeahdo make another one. Youknow you just pick yourself off pick yourself up and dust yourself off and and keep chucking forward and just sayhey. You know I have you know now is my my next turn. I have an opportunity tobe better and it hurts it can staying for sure I letit I let it fumigate for about a day or so, but you know hey the past of thepast. I hope to be in another opportunity to prove myself and pormyself as a player and I'm happy for I'm happy for Jeremy whowho's moving on with intellion, and you know hey. I hope he takes it homehonestly. One of him are John. That's right! Yeah! That's right! That's awesome! So I think it's about timew for our car ofthe day. Would you agree? I would a hundred percent agree okay. So this ismy car the day today, and I think this is a nice sege between the pre and thepost car of the day topics. So my cart of the day is one that in er,guysis super woil or wood snar dice super well. If it was a standard cardwith one of the decks that we mentioned earlier and it's a Pokman, that'sfeeatured and one of the decks that we want to talk about next, you have any idea what that car mightbe. Jit of you. I I don't and I feel like I should Ifeel like. I should be embarrassed that I don't Okay II feel like it all, clickonce to explain it. So my cart of the day for this week is from Noble Victories, is the fourteenthentry in that set and that is going to be Victini with victory? Star Yesomctini with pictory star is a a lot of really cool arts. All of them are SuperFun, and you know very much in the spirit of ICTINI, but t has that victory star ability,which is so iconic and it was reprinted, even the ability, with a different card in the guardians rising set. So whatVictory Star does is it's actually the same effect as Glim would tangle ifyou've only seen the more modern cards where, after you flip a coin for anattack, you can choose to reflipt those coins that you had flipped. So, ifyou're playing your Cramarat v Max and you got a Victino with Victory Star onthe bench and you have you know ten energy and you flip ten tails, you canreflip those again with the Cina Victory Star. It does not stack withglimotangle or any of those other effects. I think trick. Coin is likeanother one of those thing right: Wool. It does the same thing, but it's a really cool option for thosedecks that realy an coin flits when it came out it was featured in the Vanilicsteck. You know, try and guarantee thatparalysis, or at least bring it up to his high percent chance as possible, and just this is a great part I reallylike thetin actually is a pokomon. I think it's really cool. I like it'skind of like V theming. I like Heg's, a little tough guy that just like, wantsto get in a little brawls, is kind of how I interpret him yeah so and taking it to the Segwe mictiny vmax is one of the decks. I'mmost excited about coming out of battle styles, so I figured what what betterway to kind of bridge your segments together then looking at Tictin, mictry,Star, yeah, absolutely Victami is is quitethe card and I think you're not quite true Victini lover, if you don't havethe battle roads, Victini Cups, have you ever seen those yeah ye can havevictini on cards. It's like in a little in a little trophy cup. Anyway, Idigress. It's a shiny victeinn. Do you know that I didn't what I had to go back and lookat him. Yor Serisi, a yeah it might have onlybeen on ther first place on by, is...

...definitely shiny. Okay I'll have thehow the check the Tint O'r Gonta. Look that up right now and ooll tricky, because Victinashinyis very similar to regular Vitini, okay, okay, well, chick ool that way: Yeah Yeah! Thank you! So Much Berteenvitry star for some awesome times in the formam and when you weren't hiringup Manilas and shout out to Nictinia for having ajust a lot of good cars under it spell so speaking, of which you know we'd befools Itd, be so foolish not to talk about battlestyles that the cards areout at our hands on them. We've had streamers blocking those hours inplaying the Bawan styles decks their vousouse tournaments going on w. Whatis your very first impression of some of these cards? What are the decks thatyou're liking or something that you're really attached to at the moment? YeahI mean if somebody asked me what would I play to atournament tomorrow? I would say single strike. IRST give me a rapant strike. RAMPAND strike Ershafu. I love theSteck. I think it has a ton of options. I think it can be built in a number ofdifferent ways and we'll talk about that too. But yeah the rapit strike just being ableto search out cards anything you want withthe actillery being able to snipe and do you know decent damage, reminiscentof of our old Pal Golis Pod, it's just a very smooth flowing deck. In myopinion, and I like it a lot from from the new deck an battlestyles yeah. I think the comparison theGostpot is obviously it's, obviously there with Gil throuust being sosimilar to for as impression. I think it's also worth noting that youknow galisipod being that kind of. Like one energy attacker found its way intoa lot of different styles of deck. You would see it as Texand index thatjust need, like a grass attacker Youvan, see in Thezor archtecs, and you see it in more like straightforward, GlisponDex, even and then you also see it in like the garbador variance, so lospots, aw a lot of different use cases. I feel like we're seeing that kind ofthing play out almost with a rabid strike where we're seeing you knowthese bagup hole versions, forseing the cincinover or seeing the straight upversion. So I'd be interested to talk more aboutthose in a second here. Are there any decksthat you're, maybe excited about, have O hada chance to try out or that you're curious to see more of? Well, I really want to play theCORVENID DEX. I find that card ti just be fascinating and I guess just BronzSong more in general, I have something coming out for for Youtube on one ofthese days, that is featuring Brown song that I think will be a ton of funand Yeah Yeah. I, like just the the energytransability that you know we've seen for a while in the past, with the withthe Euromatisand now kind of getting a new flavor so excited for that. Absolutely absolutely I've seen somereally cool ATP Bron Song type decks that kind ofmove aroar energies around all sorts of different crazy stuff. So I'm interested to see like what kindof applications you can find for Bron Song Yeah. You know. On my end, I ave ahuge fan of single strikers. You fee not gonna lie you're a SIMP with a single strike, I'mdefinitely a SIM. You know it's a little clunkier thanRAPPA strike, obviously, and there's more going on in the deck, but it's sosatisfying when it's up and it's kind of oppressive to deck thatlike can't deal with it quickly because you just you know you get these hugeknockouts that no other deck can do is attacked pierces through things to so,like Samazenta, isn't going to save you anytime soon, it's just it's so cool!You know yeah, and I love that you know is I mean it. The deck isreally cool because it it punishes decks that can't want shot it right,because if they don't do enough D, amage te one shot, then you culd scrolla scorn and kind of have that revenge that easy revenge. I think it justworks really. Well, I think the game designers were really ingenious. To putthis kind of combination together with the with the pound Oom that damages you,your guy, you can do one shot, so you get the extra damage from the energyyou have the scrorel scorn like it all just kind of works together and that'sreally cool yeah. It's actually, I think the scolof scorn is actuallyreally interesting to point out as well...

...ats, like, obviously you have gmax one blow to do insane amounts ofdamage. You know we're talking like three hundred plus when you get acouple of the single stricke energy on yeah, but then you know Youc come outof that something hits into you. It's doesn't quite get that Cao. You canjust earn some energies back in Howm, doing them on to your Orshe foel andfor every single energy you put on that Sifo you're, adding, essentially fortydamage, because you work twentyigt from the Hound Room and you put the twentyfrom the energy right and it gets really insane really fast, like you'retalking like you can get back to back one hi Khaois, just by using one blowand and Scrollo scoreand, if you're, not careful and also having that kind of cheapattack. Option like it's very possible to just like roll of scorn and put onan energy and like one shot, a little basic on a bench, especially thefighting week, one so looking at the porigons in the world right so haw, the deck is just so satisfying toplay. I want to continue experimenting withit. The stadium is great. That's just a really solid dadium card with the towerof darkness. I nothing is satisfying like discardinga tower of darkness with Youta Tar. That's so epic to I it's so much fun,so I really enjoy that deck. It's kind of I feel like every set. I kind ofpick up a deck that it's just like ie talked about this before it's kind oflike my pet deck and it's definitely single srike. At the moment. I think another really solid deck to come outof battlestyles is VIC TV Max you play kind of like a tempozard kind of deck,where you have a bunch of different, like welder oriented attackers to clean up an various stages at thegame, but the cool thing about big Tamis. You can play a heavier accountof things like research. How or you count of things like bosss orders,because the Victini for two attachments can do razy damage to a Vpokemon, and so you can kind of build up yourconsistency a little bit more at the expensive. You know not playing asheavy into the welder aspect of the deck, so you know not maybe not playing stufflike baste stuff, along with fire, crystals and stuff, and instead of ofOm, more ond like draw suppor and bosses yeah, and that's just a really solid strategy.I mean having just a giant pokemon that can threaten things. It threatens TA TOAK on every vmax is going to always be solid. So that'sthis a really impressive deck of my opinion. I think the problem with tvmaxis a can struggle in kind of like gx oriented matchups if it doesn't get outof the gates with like a carzart quickly right, I think tivteen MMAXS,especially post rotation, though, like that's going to be scary, I completely agree. This is the cardthat, if it drops below like five dollars that I'm going to try to pickup as many as I can because, like you said it just seems like in a vmaxmetagame, it can dominate and why we still have tag teams and Gx spokemonand maybe isn't quite as strong, still very strong. I meant' still topping anumber of tournaments, but as soon as we move into this, this post tag teamworld that should just blow a lot of things out. Yeah, it's the damage. How put is sohigh, but also say I you know if you'repicking, O the vmaxes make sure you get your vitvs from sort and shield,because that energy verseis so much better than the I forget. What theother attack is is like victory burst or something on the newer victne yeah, an Havin hadaflah, and it's also worth calling out like having the flexibility we talkedabout this and our have ten cards of your basic TV is threatening withenergy. Verse like you, can knock out asshians that have already attackedjust by energy verse for two. You threaten all sorts of things justby you know, throwing aybe three four unergy with the Walter Energy burstingthem after they've attacked so and the deck has a lot of options and it's funny because it loses some ofthose. But votation you know, loses the water, it loses the carzards iis theheat ran, but then it gains the fact that youknow alse Ova, gx, yeah, right right, exactly very Coel, I think that's anexciting deck as well. I mean those are kind of Lik me thing, favorie decks atthe moment. Yeah one thing I want to talk about for for viewers, because Iknow people love to hear about. You know how to build certain things,and I think you probably have some opinions on the rapid strike Bershafooand how to build it. I've seen a number of different ways to build it. Thefirst way that I tried was GERATCI. The DRACI version that you may have seenchip play. I think trainerchip likes to play that version yeah a lot. Theversion that I have since enjoyed is a...

...more actillery based version, fof, noGaraci, but a two two actillory line and a lot of the rapid strike supportthey. You know you got corena's focus. You got the fan of waves, you got onecount of the stadium, you know you're, just you're able to search out those things. You know veryvery efficiently with that actillery and then the last way that I haven'tyet played. But I want to hear your thoughts on is the version with andChino. So I would say: There's more ways past that you know you talkaoutand sure sure there certainly are. What are? Could you expand on maybe some of theother ways that you've seen Oh yeah and, of course, with the Drago Pole Yeah?How could I forget, with the wit combination with Dragon pold, but ofthe first three that I mentioned kind of the the engine behind a single or rapid strike, Ershafu deck,that engine can change which of the three? Are you most excited about,which you think people should be playing right now sure I think it's tough to say like whatpeople should be playing right now, as the metof still evolving, I thinkthey're all kind of have different strengths and weaknesses Yeso. When youlook at and the GERACI variant, you know you're looking at trying to be asaggressive as possible and like gusting up the DEDENES, every turn. Tho, that's really the goal of chips,like Gerashi focus version, I would say, like M, not a huge fan ofthe drasriers ot myself, because I hate having to move those diratis around allthe time. I just feels, like you burn a lot of cards just trying to get draggyin and out of the active sure at may be. Could have been better spen elsewhere,but then you also get the utility of like you can use net on Youtube. Youuse net on Tis Agon. It kind of like squeeze out value of it in differentways. Do not say it's a bad version. It'sjust. I always get annoyed by GERACI. Ah the SIC onversion that you referencewell as the artiller version, which is really just going for like axmomconsistency and straightforwardness. So, like you, you know you can consistentlyguarantee. You have draw supart with your corenas focus yeah. You can pluckout of your deck a so it's really hard to like stamp you to low. You canalways have your energy attachment Garante! You pull out the rapstrikeenergy, which is huge, and you know you can play some of thosemore Techi you havid strik cards more easily is so like the umpolding on andthe this tower of water and all that kind of stuff yeph. That's really good,I think, especially in like an early medgame. While things are developing,it's really good to have a deck. That's very consistent! N, straightforward Trak I'll talk about drao Po Varian fora Tal Abou Chincino, so Dagon polt is going Max spread. Gagbol very is a little less consistentbecause you're playing kind of low counts of all you different energiesand they're conflicting types. They don't really work together so like justPlychicaner hes work, onother peope on that to is I've, seen a lot of thoselists, and maybe this will change as the metagame progressive, but they're.Very special energy focus playing the four horror and the four rapid strikeenergy and then maybe for you, know, psychics, but you're, very much playinginto the hands of fan of waives, but anyway, idegress continue on yeah Imean I would say, like that version is pretty pretty affected by energy disruption,as all dragonport variants are, and but it has, the benefit of you know.Ershe fe can sometimes struggle in certain matchups when there's a meawfrom ember upand Bos in the field you know being able to limit the GMAX.Rapin flow can be super impactful and the Dragon poll pretty seamlesslygets around that by using is sag again paying and the dragobolts night to wipethat off the field, while also covering, like some weaknesses and other mapchaps.So basically, every psychi Coke Mon that would hit the ORSHA food forweakness, drag polcan have covered that it could hit other urshy foods, so you'e Gotin to get that likecoverage at that cost of consistency, and then last is the Juncino variant,which has a lot more like set up involved. Obviously like you're settingup Gentino line on your board. But then the benefit is that you canchange sheryl, also like a slower Meta game or in slorer matchups. You know you can kind of like Zorarch,you can discard consistently and Sheryl, and I kind of come back and acteps. Youwouldn't necessarily expect to that's really good in those like kindof Grindy match situations where you can just continually tarall over andover and kind of check your pounet out of the game of thos variance. I think right now I I'm kind of torn. You know I kind ofslammed on drashy a little bit. I think...

...the varians pretty good, though I also I do really like the Chanchinovariant, but I'm also kind of like biased. I really like sor Ark so likeand I reallize oo pod like Tue, and that that kind of really effectivelynot it's, not a perfect recreation. Obviously, and like you compareisZoropod to the Gincino Irshy Food Deck, I'm pretty sure, Thet Erth, Ho deckwould beat this Orl pod like every single time. You know one on one like without dropping a single game Ri, but you know that's not the whole storyeither. You know the there was plenty of situations wor like you're, not even going to get to theend game where you can share all consistently sure and so like settingup quickly early is really important to make a deck like that work. But thenyou also need a lot of bench, space for your Orshi foods and your Cencinos. Soit's hard to fit like a Dedane on the bench and let Alona Didanna Anna Crobat, so you suffer in that kind of way. Iwould say it's the dekide, the verson Ih enjoy playing the most right now,just because I really like that engine and levelball was a huge asset to thatengine, of course yeah. But it's I can't say for sure if it'sthe best right now, I think if it's a to Hick Hao metagame like where Ershfoslike tanking hits consistently and like it's a little bit slower in general,like I think in Ershi, fo mirrors, it's pretty effective, but I don't know I ho's the mosteffective overall right now, yeah, it's tough to say I just for me. I lovebeing able to search out everything you know having that, just being able topick the car that you want, because there are times with Sinsino that you're going to dig you're Goingna, youknow, dig six. Eight carts you're not going to find what you need, and youmight even not only not find what you need, but you might have to give upsome of those resources that she might need later. So it's never this kind of this kind of perfect one to oneequivalent right you're, giving up some of that consistency to have maybeconsistency in the in the early game, you're, giving a for consistency in thelake game right because, as soon as you go through your entire deck and as soonas you're getting rid of the cars, you maybe don't need lay game, then thesentino build becomes really good right because you're able to get into whatyou need more regularly, whereas the actillery you're not really diggingthrough your deck but you're. Getting what you want at any moment. So it'skind of that trade off like, like you, said so hard to say, with this evolvingmetagane. What's going to be better, and maybe there is that gheral heavyversion with, since you know that that works out just a little bit better. Youjust have to sacrifice some of the some of the tech cards in order to fit inyou know your heavy Sentino Lion and in the level balls like you mentioned, socertainly a lot of for debate still and I'm excited to Continin to test withthese decks and try to find the perfect variant. Yeah. Absolutely I mean single strikeis so flexible and how you can play it, because it has just that very simpleengine of like the oneerergy attack, followed by it. You know the secondattachment into sniht, that's just so easy to conceptualize and reallybecause the rapperstrike energy fulfills both fighting requirements,like you, can tech this into a lot of different decks and just have your fourrapid strikes and whatever other energy you want, like you, coal attach a fireenergy on it in a welderdeck and then rappit strike energy. It if you reallywanted to and get access to both of your attacks. So now I'm really excited to see howplayers kind of like flex, that creativity, I think, Drago pollor Shi e,was like a great example of that of of like kind of taking it into a newinnovative direction, and I think it Weshif who kind of needs that, likerapistike kind of needs like little bit of shaking out to to reallymake the most impact that it can butit really struggles against ThourDragon polts. It really struggles against dex tic an either hit it for aweekness or like hit it significantly harder, O also brushing off it's attack. You know, stuff, like ingle strike, isactually a pretty bad matchup for rapper strike in most games, so o o, I'm just curious to see. I'mthat's! I don't have any like not gets of wisdom for what's going to be thebest, I think they all hade their strength and weaknesses, and I think,there's more to be seen as well. Yeah, it's really cool. This metagame is quite interesting. I've found thatthis has been one of the more enjoyable ones, at least early metagames, thatI've, maybe ever been a part of in ten years of playing. So I hope you guysare enjoying it now, while it still seems fresh and then you know, rememberthe feelings that you have right now, for you know three months down the roadwhen everyone's like. Ah This metagame, you know it's all dominated by this oneneck. I can't believe that this, you know all the all the tournament resultsare just this seck in this teck in this teck like. Why can't we get anythingnew, remember how you feel now...

...and and take those warm feelings when,whenever you feel like the Meta game is a little stale yeah I mean I would say: If there's one way at, you can try andboth Strep your game right now, just in general, with your deck building, Ithink finding ways to slaught, in I hate to say, bout flying finding ways.Os slotting, like your hammers and your fan of waves, really slows down a lot of decks at themoment, O a Al f. The popular ones yeah, both Arshe Foos, are pretty impacted byboth fan of waves and crushing Hammer Schagfoll, really hates to see acrushing hammer. ATP is still big and honestly ADP is like still kind ofthe most popular and successful deck at the moment. So crosh cameras great there. So don't forget to include them. Youknow I flip. Some coins put SOM to energy on the bottom. I just I stillfeel like fan of waves being really slept on. I think that that card shouldprobably be in just about every single deck, there's just so much specialenergy there's. I there's almost not a deck that I can think of. Besides thewelder BAS DEX that doesn't benefit from a special energy attachment, so itjust seems like a good card to have that has a lot of utility and I canreally punish some of these decks that are going very special energy heavy agreed yeah. I think energys no wasgoing to be a peminent part of this coming format as well. I just say you know: Let us know whatyou think like tweeted us tms on twitter. Let us know what kind of deckyou're having fun with what kind of stuff that you've seen ibe successful and what you want us to try out nextAIS Wei're more than happy to take some weird ideas and talk about him here onthe show. That's right! Absolutely! So! If you want to do that, te'St Way toget to us is going to be on twitter and it's at Ta Team Pokemon as Smosof Rilesand at Real John Walter for the show myself anjw respectively. You can alsocatch us on twitch. So if you want to listen to show live, you can catch iton twitched, O tv, Suchfo Moneer, and if you want to seejw in action, that'sgoing to be Fuk. Taty rigthos yeah absolutely be great. To have you andalso check out the youtube as well youtubecom flex, Deddy orighteous has been reallyGreay Riley. Another good episode. Thank you so much for joining us today,everyone and yeah- let's, let's it it good luck to everybody, that's playingin Players Cup! Three! Congratulations on those that made us to the secondweekend and yeah. Can't wait can't wait to get moretournaments in with these battlestyles cards. It's been really fun so far,absolutely well catch you! A on the flip side pace, see.

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