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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast
Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 48 · 5 months ago

3-48. Rotation Inflation

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys have suspiciously switched stances and are now discussing rotation! Come check out some thoughts on decks as well as cards to pick up!

Yo, what is up, guys? Welcome back to tag team, the POKEMON trading card games premier podcasting duo. My name is Riley Hobart, joined as always by my good, goodfriend Mr JW Curry, wall JW Haws a hanging to day. That's goingpretty well, Riley. How are you? I'm doing pretty well, I gottasay, with the exception, and it's a major one, I've hadsome pretty high level difficulties with allergies over the last last week or so.I am quite literally, I think I mentioned this last week, allergic tomy place of work. Well, can I be the first to say oof, that's right. I think you are the first to say that in response. Yeah, that is quite rough. It's cringe. It's cringe for sure. It's definitely cringe, bro it is not based at all. No,definitely not poggers. That's been going on. But otherwise things have been going well. How are you doing? Um, I'm not allergic to anything as now. Yeah, it's my change, might not my change. Who knows? You know what? The climate is changing rapidly, so they say.My allergies may change rapidly, so they say. But yeah, I'm doinggood man. I got like a bunch of like just content ideas flowing throughmy brain and I just that's good. Don't have the time to do them. And I want to play pokemon unite more, but I don't have thetime to do that. And I want to play. I want to playone last tournament in this format, because I felt like I really didn't playmany online tournaments. I mean I haven't throughout the pandemic, but I don'tthink I've played a single format tournament in this yeah, in this format.So, like I want to just give it one one try, one go, play something degenerate and kind of send this format off there in the middleof starting a massive battle that will last centuries to come. Oh Man,generations of cats will feel this on. Those usually don't end well, no, gotta say. No one comes out of these battles a winner. No, certainly, least of all you, at least of all she, atleast of all me. Yeah, now I totally feel that. Man,a lot going on. It feels like time is slipping through my fingers lately. Yeah, definitely. I mean it's it's like kind of a good thingto like I feel like I'm busy enough, like it's not like I'm wasting away, but I just wish I have more time in the day to accomplishthe things that I feel like I want to accomplish. It's tough, man, it's tough. Well as not to say, though, we don't haveplenty of cool things on the horizon. I mean, let's be be real, there too. It got rotation coming up, we got evolving skies comingout soon and we've had the great pleasure of, over the last couple ofa couple of weeks, I suppose, been learning more and more about thetwenty five anniversary celebrations set yes absolutely very exciting. I was super height fromthis are for this rather ever since they had announced it, and as welearned more and more, I'm getting just more and more excited for it.I think the one card that really stands out to me, and if youhave any other standouts, feel free to shout him out, tow but theprofessor's research, Professor Oak, that I saw it for the first time,I think, either say or yesterday, and it is so cool. Imean Fresser Oak. Obviously like the original discard draw seven. Back then itwas more equivalent, like an item,...

...but having oak like the remembered andhaving his own discard draw seven. In the modern day, the arts different, and I was talking talking to Jwfore the cast. I'm not sure ifI wanted them to go with the original art and kind of just recreate thecard or if it'd be cooler to do a new art. But the newart is really cool. It's kind of like a reaching outside of the cardand like writing on it. Yeah, I don't really know what that's supposedto mean. Like I feel like there's a symbolism there that I'm missing.He's he's extended his reach beyond the bounds of just the game, right,right, something like that. You know, when the designer was like creating thecard, they're like, oh, wouldn't this be symbolic and cool ofsomething? But I don't know. It looks nice though. I gotta Sulike a it's a fun twist on the formatting of the card at the veryleast, so I'm really excited for that. I have to imagine that a placeout of those will be very extensive. Yes, yes, I have toimagine like the whole set is probably going to be ridiculous. Yeah,we'll just have to see about allocations. Man, are you going to tryto pick up any IRL? Definitely. Yeah, I'm really, really excitedfor this set. I really want to open some up. Yeah, metoo, me too, so badly. We'll see if I can't get fullgroup to like Pook me up. Yeah, with a whole collectors master set.Yeah, collectors master set, for sure. Everything. Any other cardsthat have been revealed? We haven't really talked about celebrations. Are there anyall at the celebrations reveals that really excite you get your blood pumping? Um, yeah, I mean, I I love the primes. That's that's somethingwe've talked about a lot. But I think the primes just that esthetic isjust so fun and I'm glad they're bringing it back with the dragon pulse,the also the light, the light toxtricity, I think is so cool as well, because that was, you know, I mean that was right when Iwas getting into the game as a kid, where I wasn't you knowI could buy the neo sets right when I was just getting into it.So, like I bought a lot of base sid packs, to be sure, and base that to primarily as well. Huh. But I was also buying, you know, those neo sets, those, you know, light anddark pokemon, right, I remember them very fondly. So it's reallyawesome to see that light toxtricity in there, and I'm definitely going to try toget one of those as well. Yeah, I all the cards areso, so cool. I want them all. I kind of hope theyalmost like overprint celebrations, just so I can like get it for myself.Yeah, because it'd be so fun to open them all and like like themby yourself over time. Well, thank goodness they're not like putting them inthe happy meals or something. Yeah, no, no, tweets of ahundred happy meals. Yeah, that was a crazy week, wasn't it?That was an interesting week for sure. But hopefully, yeah, like yousaid, you know, hopefully the lines of manufacturing are maybe a little bitmore restored from when they were, you know, kind of I hesitated tosay when we were deep in the pandemic because, like, who knows what'son the horizon? I was just reading a stat today that fifty one percentof Americans think that the worst of the pandemic is yet to come. That'sgood, I mean, at least that's you know, I don't know ifthat's like to doom and gloom or like very, very realistic humor. Yeah, the other forty nine percent haven't gotten vaccinated, although I do. We'retalking about break through cases, and sorry to like take this, you know, I don't know how whatever side you guys fall on, you know,of our listenership. I sorry to take this in this direction, but somebodythat I know just like had the vaccine...

...and just got covid. So it'slike it's starting to it's starting to hit a little too close right now.We've had, from my perspective, I've had like, Oh, you know, a friend of a friend you know has gotten covid or like a friendof a friend's grandmother like had covid and like passed away or whatever. Youknow what I mean. But it's never been like a friend of Mine andOh, yeah, it's pretty crazy. Yeah, finally happening. Had covidlast week actually, and they had the vaccine. Yeah, you go toa music festival, though, kind of rest of you were disasters. Wellthis, yeah, and this one went to Florida. So it's like okay, you know, go to the Hobbit Festival, was in Florida. Brother, so there you go. Yeah, maybe maybe they met each other downthere. You know what, I wouldn't surprise me. Well, all thisto say, you know, get your vaccinations and get you know, getvaxed up where your masks and, you know, hopefully then get real lifeevents or turning back to us in a timely fashion. In the meantime nowwe still have evolving skies very eminently coming up and post rotation, as aconsequence, is just around the corner. We talked to the other week aboutgetting like to preemptive on on post rotation, but it is getting ever closer.So we thought we'd give some preliminary thoughts on, you know, what'sstanding out to us, maybe things that we kind of adjusted our stance onfrom previous discussions. GW Is there anything that initially jumped out at you?I have like a couple of ideas, but yeah, well, a lotof I mean a lot of what I know of post rotation is from trickyJim's streams. So seeing the Ray quasa deck inaction has been really helpful forjust kind of getting a feel on how that deck is going to, youknow, actually look post rotation. I got to say I'm pleasantly surprised byit, just in the sense that it ran a lot more smoothly than Iimagined. I don't know if you feel this way to or feel completely different, but I just felt like I was a little skeptical of the dynamoter,HMM, kind of strategy, right, because I've lived through that and Iyou know, I lived through Ray quasa x, right, the kind oforiginal, the predecessor that this card's based on, and it it was good. I don't want to say it was bad, but there were definitely alot of flaws, you know, right, if you didn't get out your electricsearly enough or if your oponent was able to, you know, Gussthem up and knock them out, like it just got really hard and soright. Similarly, you know, I was thinking, okay, well,it's probably going to be, you know, in the same vein as that,right, and you saw it kind of struggle against the rapid strike Ershifu, naturally, because sniping to Flaffy's on the bench is quite strong, itturns out, and then the deck just kind of folds, which was what, you know, I lived through again, or you have those, have thosebench there's knocked out but it did hit for some nice numbers, likeagainst the decks that just kind of Ram you know, Rammy, like thealchymy shadow rider for instance, and I imagine also into something like a turnityswhere it's just kind of a one trick pony. You can actually get thoseone shots, whereas the other deck asked to to shot you in most cases. It's true. It's true. I kind of have mixed feelings about rightquays a. It did run very smooth when Andrews playing it in terms ofjust like getting set up. Sometimes that when I'm looking at it, Iam worried about like the duration of time it takes hm to get a oneshot, because you you can't just fire...

...and then one shot usually, whichis something that ray x had going for it. Right it was a loteasier to attach a fire and one shot, but three dynamoters doesn't really get youthere. You need a fourth, which is really detrimental to the deckin my opinion. That said, I think you know, if you ifyou're able to hit DEX that kind of give you that one turn to justlike charge, then you're usually in a good spot. So I would sayoverall, I have mixed feelings. I was very, very excited about Quazawhen they initially announced it, and I don't know if it got all theway to like what I wanted it to be, but it did do well. Is kind of my thought, you know, like it's yeah, butmaybe not as good as I wanted it to be. Well, and Iwonder if, and we got kind of a sneak peek of this on theStream. But I wonder if a heavier rose engine is the way to go, because think about it right, you can still discard your hand and I'mfor that for you know, like we just just play for rows, like, you know, actually just go all in on the Rowse Strategy, becauseI think Andrew is playing somewhere between one and two, you know, justa lower count right, as you would kind of expect, and just totry out the card. But you know, if you think about the damage thatyou can do right. So you accelerate with rows, that's already ahundred six stee damage and then you just would need an attachment and one dynamoter. Right, all the while you're like discarding your hand to drawing more cardsand you know, maybe you throw in a cricket tune there in the mix. Draw a few more, like there's just a lot of benefits, Ithink, to that rose. Yeah, that maybe need to be explored alittle bit more and maybe could be, dare I say, leaned into alittle bit more. Yeah, maybe you just play like a research rose,kind of supported a line and just knock that what's in front of you most. I mean that that really seems like how, you know, the RayQuasa deck of the past was played. It just seems like, you know, now we're doing it all over again, just with I mean, this islike such a close parallel to that day. Yeah, really, exactly. And it's just kind of like a one, one trick pony, likeyou're just going all in on the one shots on these, you know,on these V maxes and and and you just don't really care about your endgame. Yeah, for sure. SAR early and I will say historically Ihave in the v Max era, I've enjoyed those kind of DAX. It'snot something I've necessarily enjoyed before, but I think one shottingv Max is issuch a novelty I guess that it's more interesting to me. You know,I tried to make that work with single strike it didn't quite get all theway there to where it needed to be. Yeah, but maybe your Equaiza isthe is the next iteration of that. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Thecool thing about the Ray Quasa is that you don't have to discard allthe energy, right, so, so, so I like that a lot becauseit lets you just like build up just like a massive ray quasa andjust like devote way too many resources to it and then you know, youcan just continually like, you know, adjust how many energy dis better situation, makes things better, and against like one prize decks some things like that, where you were trying to lead more into like trading, yeah, asopposed to just one shotting. So yeah, yeah, I mean I like theconcept a lot, for sure. I think the one the one deck, and you mentioned this earlier, that just really stands out in this metagameis the rapid striker she food deck. It has the consistency of the rapidstrike engine alongside and tally on, it has the or Sheif who's sniping,which is really unchecked in this format. So decks like the Quaza can reallysuffer in the face of a rapid flow. Yeah, on turned to right andjust like obliterate your setup. You know, it's like not even there'slike nothing you can really do to counter it. Yeah, you know,that's that's the scary part about it.

Yeah, so, I mean rapidstrike seems really, really scary heading into this metagame. I mean, I'msure you feel similarly. Do you have any ideas for how to counteract thatat all? I don't. I think, you know, it just will dependon like whether or not you feel like the metagame is is good enoughto play a little bit more of a setup based deck. Yeah, Idon't know that there's necessarily a count her to rapid strike other than, youknow, playing a psychic deck. So probably your Alchemy, right, shadowrider. So yeah, it would just kind of be a metagame thing rightwhere it's like well, if there's a lot of psychic, than probably nota lot of people play Ershifu. So therefore I can play my you know, break Quasa Deck, for instance. Yeah, and I guess the otherpart that I was going to kind of expand on and tandem with that isshadow rider is definitely still good. It's definitely like still a top ish tohere deck, but losing visiting a gang or maybe q feels really bad toyes, like, yeah, should missus free turns anymore. Yeah, Imean that's it makes it a lot more fair. I mean, yeah,I mean the meat the gang Ar Combo into just getting like three free abilitiesthe next turn was ridiculous, right. I. Yeah, basically gives youyou have three shadow riser shatter riders out gives you like six abilities for free. Yeah, right, right. The the way that I think the decksare going to look heading into the future is certainly more heavy on the alchemyline, but like potentially like significantly heavier, like a for two or three line, just so that you can guarantee that turn to attack on the Alchemyv Max to accelerate energy, because I don't think that going through the shadowriders is going to be particularly fruitful, just because, not that it's necessarilyinconsistent, but either you're just like relying on a lot to like chain thosetogether. So I would think that as we head into this new format thatplayers will at least bump up their alchymy line, you know two, three, two, where it was, you know on one or two two inthis current format, and then potentially go up to, you know, four, three, four, two. Probably not for for but you get theidea, just like posted alcas, that's an alchemy deck. Now, yeah, absolutely, absolutely so. But I would imagine something like that would happenjust so that you're guaranteed to have more basics down so that your Alchymy vMax attack is more impactful, right, because you don't want to use thatattack when you only have like, you know, three basics, right,that's just it kind of defeats the point of it. But but also justso that you're more able to get the v Max into the active and attackingwhen you need it to. Yeah, and actually just getting the basics downis pretty relevant. H Yeah, yeah, it is, when you're try sureus that the adornment attack. Yeah, it's very easy turn to not havea full bench and it and it's not going to happen a lot too, because you think about the format and how slow it's going to be.Like I think a lot of people aren't really realizing that we're losing the bestdraw card of the last two years, maybe even more than that. Yeah, I mean, you know, certainly sent Shaman right, and it's justlike we're losing to Denne and that really speeds games up. Like I don'tthink we've quite grasped how quickly decks can maneuver with that the Dann a gxin there and losing that I think is going to be very, very interestingfor a lot of players. Just like Oh, you know, we getmore turns. There's a little bit more of an inconsistency on that first turnright where we're not seeing as many cards. I actually think going second is probablygoing to be the way to go. We've kind of supporters. Yeah,you know, we've kind of fallen...

...into going first with a lot ofthat. You know, you think like ATP like going first, like youjust get almost an extra turn because that dedn a functions effectively as a supporter. But with Crow Bat it just doesn't have the same impact that the DNAdoes. And so I think we'll just see pretty much for every deck outsideof maybe outside of maybe the Ershfu deck, the rapid strikers Foom, of justlike Hey, I'm just going to go second so that I can getmy supporter off. Yeah, and I think when you talk about Crow Bat, I think it's important to realize, like the context, that carbats cominginto this as well. Like this is a format where there's a lot ofcards that'll just be hanging in your hand, you know, right, a lotof even outside of the energy there just like pretty thick supporter lines becausewe don't have like B Sseeker or anything. There's evolving pokemon which will always fogup your hand and there's not a ton of fitting cards besides, likequick ball. Well, it's like not easy to you know, not crovaddingfor six turn one very often. Yes, no, for sure, for sure. So yeah, that kind of pace of format is going to bereally interesting. We're like the best consistency card is an evolution. Right,we're going to see DRAS I'll be in pretty much everything and I think that'sreally exciting for the health of the game particularly. But I also wanted tosay that I think another deck that could be good and I've wanted to sayit's going to be good and it's always kind of been moddeled in that tierthree area. But I think in Talian has a shot. I think thatin telling talion the energy disruption is good. You know, you think about RayQuasa like just being able to pick up energy. I think it hasthe space. If you wanted to use crushing hammers. Like crushing hammer seemedlike a good card. Again, you have a lot of these decks thatare really reliant on how much energy they have in play. Ray Quasa,shadow rider, you know, I guess it turn it is to an extentyou can get those back with Multras, but you get the idea, likeI think energy disruption is is going to be better now in the in thepost rotation. So something like in telling and I think could do really well. Yeah, absolutely, I see the merits there and definitely pick up thetelly online. Talk more about that after the card of the day. That'sright. Well, today's card of the day. Speaking of Neo Genesis,I I have this card that it just to me. It embodies kind oflike the second generation of Pokemon, in the way that chars aard embodies kindof that first generation of pokemon cards. And it's type Flosian from neogenesis,not Typlosian from Neogenesis, not an attacker at all, not even a supportPokemon at all. There was a Typhlosian at the time that had a relevantability, but this one just a crappy card, but awesome but awesome artwork. Like it just looks very simple, very clean, very menacing. Ijust and it's very simple, you know, very much without frill in a lotof ways. Like charzard was right. It's just in an attacking pose.The Art looks great anyway. So yeah, this Tiplosan got a pokemonpower and one attack. So fireboost says when you play typolotion from your handyou may flip a coin. So imagine playing a pokemon power that wasn't guaranteedor audibility to right on a stage two. So you know, again like nota playable card. But says if heads search your deck for up tofor fire energy cards and attach them to tie Flosian, so that effect ispretty good. And if the poke of power didn't have a flip, whichthey were very prone to do back in the day, like I think they'reup flips India, they were just really worried, I think, about thingsgetting too overpowered, so they wanted to make sure that there were some kindof check on that. So, yeah,...

...just weird stuff on that pok ofpower. But you could search your deck for up to for energy,so you get to like just accelerate to it from the deck, which iscool when you evolve it and then the flame wheel attack, horrible attack,does eighty damage for for energy. Again, keep in mind this is stage too. And then your force to you don't even get to choose. Yourforced to discard three fire energy cards in order to use the attack. Solike you fight like, like I'm just imagining somebody playing the Typeloan and they'relike, all right, I'm going to fire boost. Hope I hit heads, and then, like they head heads and they get the energy and then, like they attack one time with flame wheel and then they're like now what? And it is the fire boost is when it comes into player every turn. Yeah, no, it's when you play it. One shot, yeah, you, exactly, you don't Miss Your shot, and then you dolike a twenty snipe to each bench with a flame whilknees. Look, comesin and one shots you. Yeah, for to energy. Right, exactly, exactly. Yes, Sneeze, look, can do what? Like, Iguess, Sneeze, look, could do what potentially like one hundred andsixty four two, like double the damage, right, if you have for specialdark and a full bench and you have your heads. Technically you wantsixty four four, I guess, because you have one hundred sixty four four. Yeah, sure, should be a one hundred and forty four to withtwo yeahs. It's like that's not that's not a good value proposition on abasic that is weird. Tree, so ridiculous. But Anyway, tie Flosianfrom Neo Genesis Number Eighteen love ag that's awesome. That's awesome. It's funnybecause when you're describing the ability, I was planning on asking you like it. Do you think it would be playable if the ability wasn't a flip?But it sounds like no, yeah, no, no, not as ahurdle man. That's that's horrible. Yep. Well, there you go. Tieflosan is a huge fan favorite. Didn't make the transition at d verywell, but yeah, for some reason it just it didn't really work.I don't know why. It is because they turned the fire off three Dhmmm. Yes, true, yeah, he's not really flows anymore. He'sjust tie. I don't know, it's a long day, I can tell. So let's talk then, about post rotation a little bit more, namelywhat we're kind of looking at in terms of cards propositions for post rotation.So we talked a couple weeks ago about some staples to pick up. Obviously, like the Entili online was one of the first things that we called out, like get this for sure. You'll regret it if you don't, andso I if you have any more of those, I'd be curious to hearabout them. But I think it might be nice to kind of just takea step back, look at a high level and talk about when you're lookingat things in a post rotation. You're looking exploring a post rotation, eitherbuying cards or building a deck one. Are the kinds of things that youlook for, JW, in your experience? Sure. Well, I'm always lookingfor cards that can do something that I can't normally do generally generally.So, like a great example of that is, you know, the thethe the shadow on it. Yeah, a great example of that is done. There's an't an Eve's wrong. Yeah, no, no, a great exampleof that is the shadow adder where...

...with the ability you get to attachenergy. So you get to attach extra energy for turn and then you alsodo you know, you get to draw cards on an ability. Right.So, like that's just good. We all know that. That's kind oflike impressed into our brains at this point. But then, like you know,you look at other cards that you know and some of these are themost obvious ones, right, like Pokemons, only giving us a handful of archetypesin any set. So like I'm going to say, like Oh,Ray quas is good because you can discard your hand and draw three and likeDuh, write, like Duh, that's good to draw more cards like that'sgenerally always going to be good. But you know, there also comes apoint where it's like you had to decide on what you want to test,right. So, like I can tell you, like it's good, butlike how do you prioritize? And I guess that's kind of where you splithairs with a new format, right, because you're wanting to put all yourtime and energy into testing a small handful of deck because you don't want tohave to go through every single archetype to figure out what's the best one.Like that's just so tedious, so time consuming. Just nobody got time forthat because, you know, there's not really a real event and people areplaying with paper and it just it gets hard. Right. So how,I guess the question like I pose back to you is like how do youdetermine, you know, the wheat from the chaff, like how do youdetermine what's good versus what you should maybe put on the back burner for nowwhen you're heading into a new format? Yeah, yeah, and we're actuallytalking about this over the course of the week, I think. I thinkone thing you have to keep in mind whenever you're building a pokemon deck iskind of like balancing your power and your consistency right, like there are thereare cards that are very powerful but not super consistent, and there are carsthat are very consistent but maybe not super powerful, and there are a bunchof cars that are in the middle of that spectrum. Whenever rotation happens,the cards that you should scoop up first always are the consistency cards. Thoseare the cars that spike up a ton. Those are the cars that will ultimatelyform the bones of whatever deck that you build. So thinking of ifyou for some reason don't have researchers or Marni's like, those are going tobe the cores of your decks. If you don't have intellions or drizzles,those are going to be core components of many of the decks because they arejust such fundamental consistency to what will make your deck actually work in practice,and what you typically will see in a post rotation format is because they areso narrow and scope. Having a consistent deck is just a valuable trait inof itself, because every deck will lose some of out of consistency, sobeing able to execute on your strategy reliably is a huge plus. So that'swhere I would start, as I would start with things that utilize things likedrizzle on and telly on effectively, because those are really going to be themost consistent cards available to us. Now, if you're thinking about those cards,what kind of archetypes do they fit in the best? Well, naturally, you know for looking immediately at post rotation, they fit in with rapidstrike the best because they can also search out rapid strike cards with the abilitywith the attack on the Sobbl so that leaves like the blaze Kin Zeroor dexand it leaves the rapid striker she food x. So those are literally thetwo archetypes I would start with before anything else, because they have a fundamentaltie to the most cossistant archetypes in the metagame and they're already like proven,known quantities that you can quickly like ship off and take you like your existingframeworks and make work. After I go through like those decks, the nextthings I would look at is things that...

...maybe are a little less consistent buthave a really high power ceiling. So in this format, I think thatwould be like a Riquaz of emacs would be the next thing I would lookat. In previous formats you might have seen that manifest as like a hasa rate mega requaza ex. You know, that's so true. Back in liketwo thousand eight hundred twelve twenty. What? Oh, you're saying rayquasi. Oh okay, sorry, I'm tucking there. Says that quasi.Yeah, I said Mega Ray quasi es. Oh, you said Mega Ray quasi, because that's the funny thing, right, because there's like mega quasx, there's quasi gx. weady like that has requaza in the name fits. They're both like auld nuts on the table, like all in turn,you know, one, two, three, like just dig through the entire deckand then, like I'm that thinking the whole time about y Quas X. with the electrics. It's kind of a weird combination of all of them, isn't it? It's bizarre yeah, right, it's a definitely has aas a mold that it's fit itself in. Yeah, it's been typecast, forsure, you know. But yeah, so, like those are the thingsthat I usually tried. Next is because I they are fun to executeon and usually if you can find a way to make these high roller deckseven like remotely consistent, yeah, they will thrive in a post rotation metagamebecause everything else is so much more inconsistent. A good historical example of that isactually quays a gx, when Andrew Mahone and JW and I played thatat the Philadelphia regionals a couple of years ago. That truthfully was not themost consistent duck out there in the grand scheme of things, but we itwould had a high power ceiling and we made it consistent enough where it couldstay in the game versus a lot of the Meta. And so that's kindof where I would start, is I would start with the most consistent,proven archetypes and I would start with the maybe less consistent but high power levelarchetypes and kind of work your way out. Yeah, and then from there Iwould try like the more niche things that just generally interest me at likeI have my pet deck. Every single set I have a had deck thatI talked about, and so then I would like branch off into those things. I would recommend do think, a similar strategy. You know, thedecks that you choose within there might be a little bit different, but kindof work off of that framework of starting with things that you know work andyou know how they work and branching out from there. HMM HMM. Yeah, that's really great advice. I think going with what you know is goingto save you some time, right because, like, okay, at least youhave something in your back pocket. Right, if you're trying to preparefor an event and you're trying to make something new work without really testing whatwe already have, like, you might find yourself disappointed when you get tothe event because you didn't have that solid foundation. So knowing what we've alreadyhad and knowing that intimately and being able to put that over into the newrotation is where I would start, like you said, just because then Ihave a basis for what I could expect, not only for my opponent but likealso like a backup plan for, like if my new archetype goes horriblywrong and testing and I just can't quite make it work like I have somethingto fall back on. Yeah, that I feel good about. And this, honestly, is something that a lot of people fall into the trap of, not even just in rotation, like whenever a set comes out, isthey'll immediately try and test like the new things against each other without making surethat, like, the proven arculd types are not still a relevant factor.There's plenty of historical examples of that.

You've even seen it just in formatsin general, where like the new decks kind of dominate the early tournaments becausethat's what people put the time into, and then, like, a coupleweeks later it just ends up being like, the old decks are still really good. Sure, who knew? Yeah, so, I guess another like tangentialpiece of advice I would give is, if you're testing a new thing,start against the stuff that you know works. Yes, true, true. Don't try and just test the new things against each other and pick thebetter of the two, because because they might just be significantly worse than what'salready out there. I remember I did that one time with a big teenyx plasma or nose victenix, not a plasma, pokemon, I don't believe, and then art uno, articuno x plasma, and like a lugia plasma, and it was like the these, yeah, with a v piece,and I thought I was like hot stuff and I was like testing it againstall my friends, like yeah, like you said, post rotation or youknow whatever, new decks right with the new set, and then I bringit to league and everyone's playing the old stuff and I just get smacked.Oh Man, I thought I had this really cool archetype that I was workingon and it just turns out it's it's actually garbage. That's sick. Soif you'll have any thoughts, though, we'd love to hear them. It'salways a little bit of a push and pull when trying to like experiment inthese new formats. Please, please, please, do buy your and tellyon sooner than later, because you're going to regret it if you don't.They've already started to spike in price pretty absurdly in my opinion. Really,what do you think they should be? I don't know what they should be, but it feels bad. By a drizzle for ten bucks or more.Oh, is that what they're at right now? That's what I was outwhen I was looking at the other day. Maybe that's not maybe that's okay,Suation, but okay, yeah, no, I saw five dollars.But yeah, I mean even like it's a that's just straight up like anuncommon that you get in like the evolution pack when, yeah, came out. True, true, yeah, you should not be spending that much.You know, like I still have I have my original pree rely stack fromsword and shield still built and I just like to shuffle it sometimes and there'sjust like drizzles just in there from the evolution came well, I gotta say, Riley, I didn't take that advice. I still need to get my dressiles. Am I intellians maybe the first to say hoof, I know.Well, I have, like a lot of the other things, I splurgeda little. Don't tell my wife. I bought the Rainbow Rear. TheRainbow rears foosh. You Bought Rainbow Ergi Foos, not the altar archie foods. And he bought it before you have any on them. Ha, ha, I'm crazy. I'm crazy. He's on head. Just Lady. Now, watch out, watch out, now, that's not the craziest thing I've everdone too well. I guess the message that I'm hearing, based onfeedback, view and chat, is the drizzle isn't constant flux. So getthem whatever you see them for a reasonable price. What would you say isreasonable? How would you I would say like five dollars or less. Itis reasonable and okay for an oncommon. Okay, Gotcha. Feels really badwhen it starts to get more than that. Yeah, for sure. I don'tthink we've seen an uncommon in recent memory. Get that, I Imean we have like Max Luxer is very expensive. Sure, maybe the trainers? Okay, okay, yeah, maxlixer was like nearing what ten? Tenor more? Yes, twelve was over...

...ten for a while. HMM,yeah, it happens occasionally. Crazy. Wanted to give you all preview,though, of what the next couple weeks you're looking like in terms of thetag team. So next week we will be doing a season highlight reel.Will be talking about some of the top moments for from the last year inthe POKEMON trading card game. So be on the lookout for that. Ifyou have any ideas, feel free to shoot us over at DM on twitterand we'll check that out. The week after that. So recording on thetwenty five and released on the twenty six of August, will be doing aanalysis of the post rotation metagame as well as the Jim Leader Challenge metagame headedinto the full group double header. K. So if you are planning on headingto that event and need any last minute tips, tag team is theplace to get them. You'll want to listen into that one. Or ifyou have any other post rotation events that are coming out that weekend's perfect placeto come check them out. Yeah, then starting in September, sorready cutyou off. Got Season Four. That's right, I can't believe it.Yeah, I've been going strong for a long time. So really excited tobring home the next season as well as just a new season of pokemon.Yeah. Any any teasers that we can give about the new season? Anyteasers that we can give about the new season? No, no, yeah, yeah, we did say awesome twitter, follow us on twitter. We didsay, remember Riley, that we were going to do some some merchwe did. We do still want to do March. We do. Yes, you merge. Maybe we'll do like a couple of designs and have likea vote. That could be cool. Also say follow us on twitter?Yeah, absolutely, at TAG team pokemon. That's a tag team pokemon and ifyou want to check out our personal twitters, I'm at smiles riles andMr Jw Crey Wall is at Real John Walter. If you ever want tocheck out the podcast recorded live every Wednesday, you can check it out at twitchDOTTV monner. Most weeks. JW also hosts the podcast on his channeloccasionally and he does a lot of great content on his channel, so youwant to check him out. That's a twitch dot TV flex daddy righteous,and make sure you're watching the flex daddy righteous youtube channel. Guys Jaw ascontent that you will not believe coming out all the time. He's doing somehistory of the POKEMON trading card game. It's been a joy to watch.Yeah, but new and next one. I'm hoping to get that one outby the end of the weekend, so it's going to be a good one. I have the script written up, but now it's just like recording it, editing and all that. Sas Man has scripts. It's Great Bar Huh. It is crazy. If you know me at all, it is crazy. So make sure you check out his stuff. Make sure you check outfull group games for all your evolving skies needs and we will check you nexttime pace. See You.

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