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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast
Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 27 · 1 year ago

3-27. Tag Team Minus One

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

JW Kriewall takes Tag Team to places it's never been before - one on one. Riley had to hop out for the week, so JW brings you the latest Pokemon musings from what you can do to support content creators, to the incredible quality of Shining Fates cards. Don't miss it!

Welcome back to tag team everyone, the pokemon trading card Games Premiere podcasting duo. I'm your host, JW Curry Wall, and today got a solo episode for you. That's right. If you thought that intro sounded a little weird, you would be correct. The first time I think I've ever done the intro in one of these podcasting episodes, but super excited to be here with you guys today. Riley is sleeping, I think as of this moment. He's been working twelve hour ships for what seems to be what the last couple of weeks, and so he's out of he's out of business tonight, out of commission to take a little nap and get ready for tomorrow, which is again, from what I understand, a very hard day for him. So you got me here. We are back, Mano Imano, and let's just run over the schedule for today. So got a lot of topics to talk about today, our topics that we can get to. We'll see how how far we get on our list, but have some collaboration hype that I would love to talk a little bit more about. We got battle styles come out a few weeks but I promised Riley that we would talk over that set together. So if you're looking for battle styles reviews, look for that next week. I was able to find myself some shining fates. I'll talk about that as well as the card of the day, little bit of sent to scorch testing results and maybe a word or two about content creation and finish it all up with some user questions. So pose that to the chat guys. If you have any questions out there you'd like me to answer when we get around to it, please drop him in the chat. So we're going to start out today with the biggest news. POKEMON twenty five. The concert was last week, fantastic event with post Malone. I thought it was truly one of a kind. I mean it was, it was very special. I watched it and I was just I can't believe that I'm seeing post Malone, one of our generations biggest artists, and pokemon sharing the same space together. That was truly unbelievable because for most of my life in pokemon right they just haven't been that open with their Ip. POKEMON has grown to be this like massive, massive brand. I mean the people that that think of pokemon is as just this, this little piece of a larger puzzle. Well know, I mean it is the puzzle. In a sense. Pokemon is a massive brand, but they've always been very tight with their IP, their intellectual property, and this post Malon concert just really represented what I hope to be maybe a new era of pokemon. We already kind of started to see it. I...

...think one of the first things that made me think, okay, Pokemon is opening up a little bit is when they finally started to do well, pokemon go was a huge one, when they finally started to do mobile gaming, and then we got into some weird things like the the magic harp jump game, which I shamelessly played for about a month and a half. And then we've seen, you know, pokemon masters and finally pokemon unite, being this kind of League of Legends Asque game that I think will again really propel pokemon into spheres that it just hasn't ever been before. And so, wrapping that back around to post Malone, it was amazing to see this artist, massive artist, collaborate with Pokemon in a way that was new, fresh, exciting, interesting, a maze, I mean downright amazing. I was so happy that it happened and I can't wait to see if more things like this happen. I mean, obviously it was a very special event pokemon twenty five, twenty five years of Pokemon. They had to make it kind of an ordeal. But who knows, I mean maybe this opens the door to more collaborations, more unique settings for for pokemon. I couldn't be happier. We've already seen this year pokemon twenty five, obviously continuing the McDonald's tradition, but also doing some claps with General Mills, and we was even seeing the levies collaboration, among other things. So again, pokemon seems to be from my time in the game to now, seems to have opened up what they are allowing the company, you know, the inner workings of the company, to do with the brand image, and I think that I'll make for some more exciting things in the future. Speaking of exciting things, I was able to get my hands on some shining fates, shum shining fates. I was able to get my hands on some shining fates courtesy of full grip games. Thank you, guys, so much for sponsoring me in the PODCAST. It was amazing. got to open a couple of products, one of them being the Dednn a box set and the other being one of the eldegost tins. They were just very kind to send that to me. Nine packs and total of shining fates. That, I mean crazy stuff. Right now I can't even find it at my local game store. They sell out in, you know, hours at the local game store and in minutes at the logo target and Walmart. So it's just super happy to get some shining faiths and not a set that I really open. I've talked a lot on the podcast about how I just don't really collect for the sake of collecting. I know that there are a lot of you guys listening out there that that's maybe one of the main...

...ways that you interact with pokemon franchise. You know, we collect and then and then maybe we also play on the side, but that's definitely not the way that I approach the game. You know, certainly are the cards, I should say certainly I am a player first and then I collect what I receive mostly from from playing. So I think, you know, I have maybe the most one of the most expensive things in my collection was something that I just was it's just like I hold on to this, you know, don't need to sell it, I'll just hold onto it and whatever. I'll just toss it kind of in a in a closet, in a box like not even displayed, and that is my evolutions booster box. saw somewhere the other day that it had risen above a thousand dollars. I think it's I think it's come back a little bit from that, but certainly it has hit a hit a high, and that was something that I could have gotten rid of in two thousand and sixteen for Fifty Bucks and felt good. In fact, I did at one point have two evolutions booter boxes. Sold one two thousand and sixteen for Fifty Bucks. So how about that. But it was great to open this set once again. I never opened any hidden fates. Like I was all off of of the hidden fates train. I was like yeah, you know what, who needs a chars ared? I got a few of those lying around, but they really had did themselves. I think was shining fates, I mean hidden fates, also a great set, like very well produced, but one of the things that really excited me about shining fates was the quality of the amazing rare I don't again first time opening hidden fates are first time opening shining fates. Didn't open any hitting fates, so I had no idea about you know, the quality of these cards in these shining sets and the amazing rears are UN believable. Thanks so much, Dylan, for the four months description beyond. They are absolutely unbelievable. You look at the texturing on the card and it's it's the energy symbols are raised, the amazing rare splash is raised. You got to get them. You got to get them. If you don't have a play set or at least one of each kind of the amazing rares, do it now, before the price goes up to a hundred bucks each. Do It while they're still twenty dollars. I beg you, because these things have so much potential. Absolutely ridiculous looking cards. And if you can get it grated, I mean sure there that's a whole like wormhole. I guess we can go down grading. PSA is recently up to their prices of grading. Now, instead of ten dollars card, it's twenty dollars a card. I think some people might look at...

...that and say, you know, they're taking advantage of all these people sending in their cards. But I would actually say maybe not. Maybe it's the opposite. Maybe they're just getting overrun with cards at this point, because it doesn't really make sense to lower their prices right because they have plenty of competitors now in that space. You got BGS, you got C CGC, so there's no real reason for them to say hey, you know what, let's just up our prices right, other than they are just being overrun. So many people have cards in with PSA right now they are just not receiving them back for months, six months, seven months. I heard one person is still waiting nine months later for their card, and that's insane. That is absolute insanity. I could never have have foreseen this, but something to look out for if you are thinking about sending in your cards to get graded. Big Debate on what looks better. BGS, I think, is kind of the de facto third place and really PSA's the maybe the gold standard, versus the newcomer CGC and how they look. I personally like the subgrades on the CGC, but I also like just that classic style of PSA. It might prove to be a little dated, you know, ten, twenty years in the future, but for now I'm really digging the classic look of that PSA. That just is pretty much all I know in terms of grating how a graded cards should look like, how it should feel, because apparently there's a little bit of textual difference on the cases that both of the companies ship their cards, and so it's cool. I I am so happy that the game is getting this kind of traction, but maybe I don't know if it translates necessarily to the card game. And that's the biggest concern, I think, for a lot of players and maybe even for, you know, competitive teams, right the people that are trying to cultivate competitive gameplay. Like, how do we convert these people from buying the packs to playing the game? And I feel like they've done due diligence, you know. You look at the TCG Oh codes. Those thing come in every single pack that you buy. They don't take such us off. They haven't taken a set off since two thousand and ten, right when they were first released, and they come in every pack. And yet there are collectors that have no idea that they can...

...be used to play the game. No idea. I go into streams all the time and I see, you know, they're just like nonchalantly throwing the code away. I saw one very big streamer that's just Oh, these actually do something else. They were shocked when someone in Chat told them, oh, yes, that code card that you hold in your hand is worth seventy cents, eighty cents. How do you convert them? I don't know. That's a that's a question bigger than me. I certainly I like to think that I'm part of the solution, maybe a small part, just again, the more content that we have out, the better. Try to draw in people from all different walks. I do get a chance to talk with some. I have a few coaching clients that are former magic players. Talk to them in the past coming over to pokemon because they like the ease of card you know, production. That's just way easier to get better cards and Pokemon that it is magic. I mean that's that's a huge draw for a lot of people's and I think you know really pokemon is playing right into that. You look at the at the set that they're releasing. You look at the yeah, just the way that they release the cards right, like none of the chase cards are really that good, right. They're not making competitive chars ards for the most part, but then the league battle decks huge. I think this is this is what we've been waiting for. You know, we were waiting for this in two thousand and thirteen, two thousand and fourteen, like please, pokemon come out with some of the products that they have in Japan. You know, Japan tends to have more of these, you know, trainer Tool Kit, ask best of expanded or X and Y. They know, these kinds of collection boxes that just come with the standard staples, and we've never really had that until this last year and it was mind blowing just how much of an impact that those could have, or at least the potential that those presented. I think is stunning move, stunning move for pokemon. I have a comment here in the in the chat that says something I always wandered about big you tubers. Is They give away all the codes? Yeah, they do, absolutely. I mean the bigger you tubers they probably give the codes away more, more for their audience. You know, they know that their audience will just eat it up like that. That's great. That's a really nice thing to to kind of give back to your audience when you're that big of a creator and they know that they I think. I think the difference maybe between a lion heart are real breaking nate, is that...

...they know that the game exists, right. They know the trading card game exists, but that's not just not really their thing necessarily, whereas I see other other people getting into, you know, opening packs and things like this on their streams and they just they just have no idea that the card game like is is actually played like. It's just shiny cardboard to them and not actually a game. So, that said, we're all doing our part in this content creation biosphere. For POKEMON, I've been watching a lot of well, maybe not a lot, but when I can fit in time between my schooling, I've been watching Yugio content creators, trying to figure out what makes the Yu Gi oh realm of content creation maybe more attractive or or more well engaged with and Pokemon. Because again, pokemons this global brand, the VGC. You have a lot of players, maybe not a lot, but you have a handful of player. I can name a handful of players, maybe a dozen players. That are all, you know, fulltime VGC content creators. I can name two TCG content creators that are that I like can guarantee your full time. A few are in that, you know, Middle Zone where it's like, well, not really sure unless you look at the analytics, but it's just wild to me that there are, yeah, that there is a such a descriptory, such a discrepancy, just with how big the brand is and everything that pokemon organized play has done to push the game and be, you know, in the hands of competitors. I think they've done a really great job and it's just kind of a head scratcher on my end as a content creator, like how can we get more people into this game, plugged into this game? And maybe it just comes down to we don't have the right personalities or the right people. Just haven't been doing this long enough right, creating the content for long enough. But I think it takes a whole army, right, it takes the people listening at home to boost the content of the players that you like, you know, I mean really like, gaining traction, more interaction, pushing it out to two people, you know, via the Youtube Algorithm, commenting, liking, all that, etc. Etc. You know, being a good I call it being a good youtube citizen or being a good twitter citizen, a twitterizen, if you will, but it just takes, you know, a more engagement. I guess. Is kind of the thing, right because if somebody says, oh, Hey, I like this and then it goes out to their friends and they say, Oh, I had no idea this, this existed, you know, it's that kind of cascading waterfall effect that we're really trying to push.

I mean that's that's what we're here, that's what we're doing. We're trying to find new audiences to bring them in. And maybe they don't like the maybe they don't like the competitive play necessarily, or maybe they only like playing, you know, meme dex, or or maybe they only like playing tier one deck. I think we have enough creators in the game. Right now. Is An amazing time for creators. We are just exploding, I think, with the ideas that some of our creators have. The the trajectory that some of the TCG creators are on is is encouraging, but it's just we're not there yet, you know, just generally as a game. And so yeah, just trying to do things that get more people involved. Certainly is the goal of this podcast. You know, you know us as being players that cared deeply about the growth of the game. You knows as players that really want to see the game blossom in a competitive sense. And you know, maybe somebody gets hooked into that right they see the podcast are like Oh hey, this is what come. It comes up when I searched POKEMON trading card game, and you know, maybe I don't necessarily love tag team, or maybe I do, maybe I'm a fan. You know, I get it amazing that Linkedin call that I gave a couple of weeks ago, I had a lot of people like hey, big fan of the show, heard your heard your heard your podcast heard you. You want to connect and like that's great. You know, that's awesome, but hey, maybe they come in be the PODCAST, they go out to some other content creator and then they found a home with somebody else. But doing our part to try to push that game and I think we all kind of play a role in that. So That's enough about content creation. I said we were only going to speak a little bit about it, but ended up being like ten minutes. So car of the day for this week. I'm holding that right in my hands. You guys know I've been building a heart goold soul silver cube and my big goal right now is to try to reverse hollow the whole thing, so everything in reverse. And this is a challenge for a couple of reason. The cards are ten years old or more, you know, released in about two thousand and ten. But what's really kind of challenging about REV hollowing the cube is that the cards bend an unbelievable degree. Like this set is notorious. This and I would say the hollows of black and white are two of the sets that I think back on and I think, Oh, yeah, those are problems sets right. Those had hollows or reverse hollows that just bent like a like a sea over time. And so you know a lot of people just have these hollows that really aren't in good shape. And so if trying to find an adequate copy to put in the cube is really...

...a challenge, really is a chance. But it's fun. You know, I do. I do find it fun. This is my first big collecting adventure and it's cool. I I want to maybe not do it all over pandemic and try to find some in the wild, because that to me, is always fascinated me. I back when we had regionals and this was a particularly big thing. I want to say around Twenty fifteen or two thousand and sixteen. But the trade up game. So if you never heard about the trade up game, it's essentially trading a paper clip for a house, right, you hear that story on Tick Tock or Youtube. You know, hey, I took this paper clip, I traded that paper clip for a stick a gum, I traded that stick a gum for a Lamborghini, traded that Lamborghini for a house. Boom, paper clip the house, and so I think that'd be yeah, that'd be great. I don't I don't want to just buy everything online. Is that? Is that cheating in a way? Yes, in a way. No, you know, because you know, in my defense, ends we don't have IRL events. So who am I supposed to trade with? Cut Me some slack. On the other hands, it would be nice to try to find some of these things, trade for them with the person, kind of get to know their story, because I think a lot of these cards. One of the things I miss about trading. I never really did too much of it, but one of the things I missed about trading is just kind of hearing people's stories. So talking to them, saying hey, when did you get this card? You know, for some people, especially if you're making more high level trades, when did you get this card? Can sometimes open up a really interesting conversations. Try It with somebody next time you're at the local game store. But Hey, I pulled this out of a pack five years ago. I went to the target, got a single pack and I pulled this card and it's been very, you know, special to me. But I want to trade it. You know that you get those kinds of stories. You know it's something like that. Certainly that wasn't the most heart felt that it could be, but you get the idea and so, in any case, trying to reb out the cube. This brings me all the way back around to the card of the day. I did not forget, and that is we talked about her on the podcast last week, Kannako Eo with her copycat supporter card from heart goold soul silver. Unbelievable cards. I look at these and I just I think back to it. They're just the nostalgia trip, absolute nostalgia trip.

And if I can describe this copycat supporter for you, we know that there have been a few other copycats. There may even be a legal copycat. Now I'm struggling to remember if it was in like a recently rotated set or if it's still in standard and nobody plays it. But we've had copycat in the past. I think there was one in Holland legends and then our gold soul silver really brings kind of this character to life for me. You see copycat. They're in team rocket garb, they're imitating a swimmer, they're imitating professor ELM and then they're imitating you know, you, essentially as the pokemon trainer. I think it's just a really special card, simple card, clean lines, multiple characters impersonating other characters. I think that's that's really fun to me. Must be why I like mimic. You pokemon imitating another Pokemon, but that is card of the day. Bring me back to my younger days. So as we're heading into our last segment, I just do want to open up the floor to two questions here. If you got any questions, shoot them into the chat. I make sure to get to them if I can. But the last thing I want to talk about today was Players Cup three. I've been doing some testing for the second stage. Both Riley and I made it ten months into stage to quarrantine time for sure, and thank you so much to Bart Melk for the ten months. Unbelievable, says. Quarantine time for sure. What what a great time to get into the world a Flex Daddy. But I've been doing some testing for players. Cup three, Riley, Myself Andrew the squad all made it in and I'm trying to figure out what I want to play. So I decided to give Santa Scorch some significant testing. I might even put a video out on it, maybe over the weekend, about my games from stream. But they were atrocious. If you guys were there, you would have seen some of the most unusable bull hands. And of course ten games, on the one hand, is a small sample size, but on the other I think you can you can glean information from ten games. You can definitely clean information from ten games. You know, if I'm going into a regionals and you ask me, Hey, do you want to take this deck in without any testing or with ten games of testing, I you know I'm choosing ten games every time. Right.

Obviously I'd like more. Obviously we can go on the results of others to an extent, but for me send us or just did not play well. I drew the worst hands. Look consistently like it was starting hands were we're bad, but then mid game hands we're bad, and game hands we're bad. I think one of the worst losses that I took was to an or beetle deck, an or beetle deck. Granted they played weakness Card Energy, but granted I played Guarantina. So I know Guarantina maybe isn't the most popular choice right now. I mean, certainly a lot of people play it, but certainly there are something that don't. In any case, I should have had a field day with that deck, but my opening hand said No. We got into the mid game, my mid game hand said No. Now we just kind of lost out from there. So some will be screaming right now. They'd be like, JW, you're manipulating the meadow. When you say a deck is bad. I say, you know what I just we've been saying it on the dream and on the podcast for so long. Like please think about what you're doing when you play a welder deck, particularly sent a scorch and I know I'm going to get a lot of haters and a lot of texts, a lot of DM's being like JW. You are absolutely wrong. Let me show you my sent a scorch list. My sent a scorch list is different. My send a scorch list is good. I I'll give it another ten games before pcthree, but I think even if I went nine and one or ten and no, I still don't think I could touch the deck. We were losing a mad party. We lost to an eternity is wheezing deck. What do you want me to say? It was a slaughter out there, man. We got so low on the Elo ladder. We were playing aloneland sand slash garlic, Gallerian darmanitand decks, which we won, by the way. In any case, if you I if you came today, we're hoping to hear me say, please play sent a scorch.

Cannot recommend it less. What does a send a scorch lists, metagame, you know mean? Well, maybe means a better field for deciduagoons, although some would argue that you send a scorch certainly is winnable, specially if you play bird keeper. Go ahead and Ping those volcanions. Get him out of there. I just can't recommend it less. We have a question in the chat we're going to move on to chat questions here. Have a question about streaming. Pcgo online using obs or stream lambs? That's a great question. So I use obs to stream. I think there are a lot of great streamers right now that just stream for fun. That's another really cool thing that we've seen in the last well, I mean really over pandemic. The last year seen a lot of new people just get into streaming casually. I think that's great. Again, it's great for the game to have many different voices. You know, you don't like flavor a, you go to flavor be. Don't like flavor be, got to flavor sea and all of a sudden you wind up with the best flavor, chocolate chip cookie dough, and you're set for life. But I use obs. If you're thinking ever about streaming ptcg oh, it's the easiest thing to stream. It's the easiest thing to stream. The game does not take, you know, a huge load on your computer. It is simple and you really don't need an overlay. You can certainly do it. There are some really good overlay ideas. It gets a little difficult because you have the corners with the names, but if you don't really care about the names. You can certainly cover those up, but you have a lot of white space on the sides where the board is. I think that makes it so good. You can put a lot of stuff in that space. Great game to stream, I think. But it's cool that we're developing, yeah, another kind of this ecosystem of streamers. Right you're pretty much always seeing, at least during your peak hours day and night, somebody that you know is a content creator streaming right, which is not something that you could say a year ago or two years ago. So people have a lot of choice right now and that is that is a beautiful thing. scrolling here chat. Okay, Somebody says here I don't know what...

...a competitive charsar price would look like. Oh my goodness, imagine if they made charzard vmax. I don't know what is to be competitive. What would you need to do to Charsard Vmax? You need to lower the energy requirement by too, something like that. Duncan says. Are you familiar with Yukamori Clay Cards? She is my favorite artist. Yes, we did. Actually that was my profile a couple of weeks ago. Actually, she is amazing. She does this in Har goold souls over, she does a slugma that is just beautiful. Dusn't says any tips on cards I could use in place of Rosa. For Standard I think roses probably your best bet. But if you are maybe if for some reason roses on the trade ladder are just very, very expensive. I don't know why. But instead of Rosa, I mean maybe you could do something like Cynthian Kaitlyn, like you can get back maybe a preferred supporter, if your preferred supporters Marnie, maybe you can, you know, cheat your brain and thinking you're playing more Marnie, play some Cynthian Kaylyn. Usually find that having bigger hands is good, and that's one of the Nice things about Rosa is that they kind of increase your hands eye just over time, right. So maybe another card that increases your hand size. You could also think, I mean Rosa. I'm trying to think about cards that have the property of Rosa. Opal comes to mind is something that you know searches out other cards. Now there's a twenty five percent of chance that it does nothing. There's also a twenty five percent chance that it opens your third eye and you become an all powerful pokemon master. Thank you guys so much for tune and into the PODCAST. It was really a great time tonight. Sorry that Riley couldn't be here. I know that there's probably a...

...large contingent of you, larger than I want to even know, that are only here on tag team for Riley, but I hope I did an adequate job keeping you up to date with all the latest Pokemon musings and news. Once again next week, listen out for the battle styles set covering we're going to be looking at that set from the art to the attacks or some really unique and interesting attackers that I think a lot of people aren't talking about right now, so you won't want to miss that. Appreciate you guys hanging out with me here on twitch. Will be back again next week, same time, different place. If you're watching on twitch, I hope you guys have a great rest of your day. This has been tag team. I'm JW creewhall. I'll talk to you next week. See you later.

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