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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 13 · 11 months ago

3-13. Pokemon Thankful Card Game

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are ready to start celebrating Thanksgiving. They got a slew of TCG news, meta analysis and fun times for all to share with the group. Be sure to check this out, and have a happy holiday! :)

Younow, what is up everybody welcomeback to tag team, the POKMON trading card games. For me, your podcasting duo,my name is Raly Holbert joined, as always by my good good friend, GWcrewall GW has it going today. It's gone pretty well Riley, I'm justgetting excited for Thanksgiving tomorrow. How about you? I am rearingto go for Thanksgiving man. Do you have any cool dinner plans coming up? Yougot any on treats on the table, I wouldn't say anything cool, but myparents. We were supposed to go p to my parents, place for Thanksgiving and we didn't end up. You know wecanceled our plants, and so they were going to make. You know this nice mealfor us and really treat us well, and so, since we couldn't make it up there,they opted instead to Bius some food from a local restaurant. So we havethat sitting in the fridge right now and you know we'll heat it up fortomorrow and hopefully it'll be good. So Nice Yeah, it is really nice. We'revery appreciative. How about you what's what's on your agenda tomorrow? Not a lot really ijust going to be justanother day in the life, but I think my parents want to order me something aswell, but I've kind of pushed back on it. I was I gonna, save the the time ineffort of it's just me, yeah see. Well, that's I don't knowthat's kind of what we were saying, but then I was trying to push my wife and Iwas like, and you know they really want to do it. It's not so much that I wantit for myself, but they was more so you that they want to do it and so mereceiving that gift. Is I itself a gift of that yeah? Exactly exactly. Iunderstand, I understand that's kind of what I was feeling as well. It's likeI'm not going to stop them if they want to want to do it, but I don't think itws necessary eitherlike I was just going to make a nice tick, an dinner for myself, okay, verygood Tut. My you'll, like my youtube video for tomorrow, Oh really yeah. I,like all your youtube videos. How about that? I appreciate that. I'm thankful, youcould say for your youtubity, that's good stuff, yes and Derik saysin the chat here. The boys are matching. We were just noticing that before thestream we got our cardigans, I don't Wi white hirts on yeah, I mean that's, Imean it's a nice. Look, I think it's a nice look.My wife likes it plus, I got to say both the boys hairis kind of on fleek today, so hm. Thank you so much thank you for noticing. Wewe're really killed it out here but low behold. There is a whole world outthere of Pokoma for us to explore together in our matching outfits, andso let's dive right into it. There's been some new news coming out this weekabout, but maybe possibly exciting developments in the POKMON traning cardgame. We got the new minisets coming out in Japan and it seems like theyrethemed around the DLC set, so the Islan Armor and the Crown Tundra for PokonSordan Shield really leading into especially the earshe Foo and it's twodifferent forms based on some. Some hints that we've gotten from theselling sheet in Japan seems like there's going to be some new mechanicactually related to Ershifu, with single and rapid strike JB. What areyour thoughts on that? Any idea? s As to what that might look like well justto again outline exactly what we know about this new set. It's supposed to bea mini set, so not like a full expansion coming out in Japan and March.Like you said, there's this single and rapid strike specification for cards. I wouldimagine that at least I hope that it would be oneevolution pokmon that has like two sets of cards, so ther Ershifu, for instance,being you know having having a single strikecard or a rapid strege card and then potentially being able to like playboth of those in the same deck and they both kind of work off each other wouldbe maybe one guess another guess that would be a little bit more otlandish.But not something that has never been seen in any other trading card gamewould be something where it's you would have one card and then maybe it would.It would either flip the card or have like a card that's off on the side ofthe field that you would bring into play, depending on which that wouldbehi, surpose you're in. I don't see pokeman doing that, because again, Ithink that adds a layer of complexity to the game. That's a little bitdifficult for the younger ages and I generally see Pokemon, especially now,trending more towards being very friendly for a newer or a youngerplayer, but that's something that we've certainly seen in othercard games likemagic. Like you? U, where you have kind of a sideboard of cards that might comeinto play, depending on what happens with your with your cards that arecurrently in play no or her. They also...

...say here that there would be you know the sheet that you're talking aboutthat was release says that the set will also feature Meta impact in cards, so the DLC pokemon that presumably will bepowerful. So it's not just going to be kind of a a collector set as we've seenwith champions path or something like that, and then the last point says thatthere's going to be special artwork, which makes me think a lot about pastsets where we've had reprints of cards. But it's been like a full art of thatcard. So, just a couple of points there to share you can find all thisinformation on poke, Guardiancom, yeah super cool. I'm I'm interested to see like how thatsingle and rapid strike mechanic develops. So that's going to Jsbe somesort of Ershy foo base thing or, if they'll be almost like tag, team orteam flar ask where there's like tags on individual cards yeah. What what Ipicture of my minds, I when I hear something like that is like singlestrike cards you play like want to turn or something and it does something bigor like Ravit strike cards like Camo into each other and something yeahhappens over time yeah and I would imagine theyre probably again. This isall speculation, but could be something like what we've seen with the ancienttraits in the pastor or mega trades or whatever. We call them. OASK E got thatto like Prima clash sets. You know. So there was some cards that had like asub trate. where it was, you know you could attack twice. You know that wouldbe a perfect kind of effect for rapidsjob yeah for rapid strike right.So maybe something like that, where there's like an additional subtext-that's maybe not an ability, so it can't be shut off. You know it's justan auto effect would be something I could also see.Angien trates were cool man. I thought they were need. It was sounded like thepool of like ancient Tra. Pope on that actually did anything was very smallyeah. That was the problem with those ancient traits is that you had primagroudon primal coyoge for hot second, and really all the others were prettyNich. For My oh, I guess Ri quas an Megarequaza, and then you had Bo yeah,but generally speaking, yeah those ancient traits were really underplayed.So maybe, if the set releases some something like that, you know maybethey'll be a little bit more played yeah. I didn't even think about doingthisthing like ancient trades. That seems that totally seems like it. Whatit could be. Yeah, of course like this, is all speculation like we're o stuckhave our butts here? Is there any Fokmon that you're excitedto see a card for from the DLC packages? Well, so I don't. I haven't played theDLCI yet so I don't quite know what to expectfrom from the DLC. I know that there are some new forms. They obviouslyfeature that Galarian Slowbro on the package, which I think looks reallycool. I think the birds, the legendary Birtrio, lookamazing and were a very, very good reprint of R re reimagination of theoriginal othe national pokmon. So I could see you know those things beingreally cool to have cards. Yeah totally agree I would be excitedto see like maybe some of those raid pokemon come back like maybe areimagination of the ultra beasts. I thought the ultravies ere honestlyreally interesting cards. I like how they all had something to do with prizecards, so maybe reinvigorating that kind of archetype would be cool. Iwould love to see Pokamon more often like revisit past archetipes. You knowwhere trip I feel like at's, something thet other card games kind of do wherethey- and maybe it's just not fit for rokemodust based on rotation and stuff,like that. But I'd love to see like a reinagination reinigration revisitingof of ideas that they've already treaded, I' kind of like add supportthe things that exist yeah. I mean they kind of do that in ageneral sense. Like you look at you know, Rain Dance, decks, ere kind ofalways around. That's yeah. I guess that's more. Just like I don't knowwhat I whan I. What I'm picturing bar is like more ultrabeast cars that, likeinteract with the existing of Raih, word sure sure sure, so that in may bean expanded format. You could have things that would boost the damage ofthose older cards in a new context, yeah, something like that would be cool,okay, okay, cool yeah. I agree. We also have one other piece of news, hit's,very small, again, very speculative, and it's featuring a trademark that wasjust filed. Byin Nintendo, an creatures called V star. So we don't quite knowwhat that would mean, but we know that we have. You know amazing Rars, and we also have V pokmon right now. Soperhaps that has something to do with the combination of the two again. Wedon't know all we know is that this v Star trademark has been filed by thosecompanies yeah, it's always hard to...

...speculat off trademarks because theycould just be trade boaking it for the heck of it Yep in case they ever wantto use something like that, but I don't know, but still we could bethatto could it is potentially like the evolution of tes kind of like how wehad yexes and mega exis or how we had gxes and tag geanes y yeah,rarty difference. You know maybe there's some like ultra rare v Pokemon,but it's star. You know a star something like that. You know we justdon't quite know or could perhaps be something like a v Pokemon, but you can only play one in your decksimilar to the Gold Stars that we've seen in ar the prison stars. The Starseems to be aeword in those cases Yep exactly that would be cool. Actually I would Ilike those kinds of cards, Yep yeah me too wel any other news out there on the inthe trading card game world. I wish we'd had more, but I don't know that seems like enough: Don't want to give it away all at oncesure. Oh you got. I got secrets brewing over there. I wish I did. I wish I did oh cool, so let's dive in then to some metagame analysis. So, coming upthis weekend, we have the chill TCG event: It's a free to play event withpretty substantial cash prizing. So Jb wan't you give us the lowdown on whatthat event is and then we'll dive into the metagame sure. So the chill TCG GG Tour Cup they're calling it is a regional style event happening onSaturday, the twenty eighth. So in three days from now, and it's a multiday tournament where you know the first day is goingto be this kind of Swiss round, I'm not sure how many rounds, yet I'm sure thatthat's determined you know based on how many people they have, but you knowsomewhere between seven and nine rounds. I would imagine, and then day tothey'll have again like another bit of Swiss and then cut to a top EPpresuming that they have enough entrance and then there's Cach prizingon theline. For this event, there's effectively two hundred and ten dollarsfor the first place, finisher they've kind of separated it where two hundredollar cash to the winner, and then you get what are called shadow credits, athousand shauter credits. Every credit from my research is worth one cent, so it would bebasically ten dollar a store credit, so two hundred ten dollars total to thewinner and then second place scales down but should be another. You knowinteresting event for the community and I can't wait to see what does well yeahyou're, really researching thes shatow cuds. Well, the problem with the shadowcredits is that they don't actually say anything on the limitless site. Theyhave a lot of kind of this fact on the limitless site where it talksabout. What's going to happen, they one what's going to happen to day to you,know top cut all these kinds of things, rules and regulations, but it doesn'tquite explain what a shadow credit is wasspitbing, having shadow creditsbeing kind of plastered, all over the graphic that they have for thetournament. So I had to go to the GG tourcom site that talks about creditsbut its unsay, that they'r shadow credits, so it was kind of a thing, so I maybemiss her representing shadow credits. But, to my knowledge, a credit via thiscompany is worth one cent and that's all I got all that researchfor just a set. Well, that's my two cents t shatow credits. I guess, but it should be another fun event. Ialways love Hen, Theu community kind of band together and tries to makesomething a little bit bigger than just a general online tournament and there'snothing wrong with General Online tournaments. But just whenever there'syou know a little bit more money involved, there's a little bit moreprestige involved and I think this event will be. You know another greatthing to just get a lot of the player base, energized about playing Pokemon, yeah and speaking of anergized,actually perfect segue. Here you had tweeted out today a fear list of theMETADEC, and that seemed to really get people energize in the replies so well.Yeah Yeah. There were a few people that were very that that did want to discuss that thatwanted to have some discourse about it and one of the most notable was wasDaniel. Tovia and you know he is very. You know he has a very good handle onwhat is doing well. I tweeted out this...

...tearlist. It's not an ordered tearlessby any means, but I was saying that I felt like, Inter one people should, youknow, expect these decks to do very well in this tournament, and I haveAtpz Blaseflon, Lucario mill, metal and sentoscorch. As my tier one, I foundthat you know. ATPC and Luke metal have been the two most played decks prettymuch since this new format started. They've been just about one in two interms of number of plays. You know in every in almost every tournament thatI've seen and then you have sent a scorch which is kind of rising therethat has fit somewhere between that. You know number four, most playdeck andnumber two most played deck, obviously praying upon the metal decks doing well and then having asomewhat navigable atpz matchup brings that sent to scorch up. We just seen alot more people play sentto scorch this format, because the decline of both atternidis andPikeran now a Turnis and Pegeram, of course, will share that common weaknessto colossal, and so just the sheer existence of a decklike colossal, maybemeans that those two decks a tournets of Pekaron. You know kind of saw lessplay at the beginning of the format now do I expect that to change yes, butagain like? Why are we seeing this rise of Centiscorch, and particularly thisrise of set to scorch like doing well, because it seems to me like we alwaysare seeing sent o scorce performing at a at a high level, and so againthose two decks Pekerom and atturnies being on the back. Burder leads to aninflux of snse scorch doing well. Now. The kind of wild card is a deck thatI've really just come to love in the last week and that's pl sephlon. Ithink it has a lot of really good matchups. It loses a bad matchup fromlast format in Decindo iguns, which was which was pretty difficult to to win, so not that it was very highlyplayed, but still it loses that bad match of it gains. You know the metaldecks are pretty easy. Even with the weakness guard or the coating metal,you have a lot of Vmax tecks just towards the top. A lot of tag teamdecks not named ATP are generally very straightforward to play into aside fromPikeron, which can get kind of dicy if they can get a tag bolt for the fulleffect. But I've even found through my testing that the ATP matchup isn't asbad as I thought. I had generally thought that ATP had trended moretowards you know sixty forty for ATP, but I played it a lot over the lastweek on the ladder and in tournaments and I've had about a seventy fivepercent win rate against the deck. So I think that speaks to. I think thatjust speaks to the strength of cramarant, the strength of just thedeck as a whole, and I really have been enjoying BLUSS eplon recently. That'swhy I have it in my ter one its Heran Forva Seplon, just alwaysfeel sketch to me because the DECS bad man like I don't I'm not happy it'sthere like. That's, not true. You love the dect right now. Well, no happy likeputting well. I think I just have to concede that it's a tiear one like I'm,never really! I was never really happy that sent O scorch. You know kind ofbecame in my eyes a Tirwen deck right like we're, seeing it blow up some ofthese tournaments. There was one tournament the other day, I'm going tofind it unlimitless where there wer something like seven cent to scorch andtop eight. I don't know if you saw the results of this tournament, but I'llpull it up here for a second just a massive amount of sentise corchand a at a certain point. Decks have so many finishes that you can'treally ignore them as being some of the best decks in the format, and I thinkthat's certainly the case with a deck like like sent scorch and like Bliafhalon.Frankly, so it is yeah. The tournament I was thinking about is this Crolotournament held held yesterday. So a hundred andthirteen players in this tournament they had one to three cent scorch indtop eight and then undend, two three four, so seven in top sixteen justunbelievable showing for that deck. In that tournament yeah I mean that at definitely doesspeak for itself. I I think both blowns and senny scorchhave kind of gotten. The benefit of the shift in the format you know, especially like blouncs, isbenefited from seny SCORC trending. Well, because Bloune generally has adecent matchup against senny scorce. It doesn't really play the game. The WaySannys carrsh wants to play, whereas decks like Peak Roun decidoy play the game a little less friendlytowards the Esepeonde yeah,...

...and definitely I mean the power of seny.Sporce is certainly undeniable, especially in a Meta, that's wroughtwith Doshan Lucron Amedel and then even theATP matchip isn't too bad. I also think tenny scorts got the tangential.Benefit of people seemed to care about it, a little less at the start of thisform yeah. So things like the melotics, they certainly weren't appearinganywhere ture. You know the Pekera also declining was verybeneficial, and that's that's a really good point that that Danny brought upin the in the twitter thread that we had just saying that yeah, you knowwhat people weren't really respecting or tecking for cent to Scorch, whenthey maybe could play other cards that had a little bit more versatility. Sothe example that he brought up was: why would you play Malonic in your deckwhen you can maybe play a Leon where Leon helps you just more generallyspeaking, and the Malotic is really only useful in that sent of Scorch,matchup yeah. For sure- and that's I mean that's the logic most players willadopt right. Is You want to be as first style as possible, especially you knowin these early Meta Game Format, tournaments, so yeah. You know itlogically follows. It makes sense and seny scorches prayed upon that for sureI think thi time that it Turneis a pigram or back on the rise, at leastfrom what I see s they're, certainly being played more and more over timeand honestly, like the fighting decxs, don't even really seem like they'rekeeping up with the Meta. You know they don't do well into the Sany scorch.They don't do that great into ATP Thoy like what's the deal, then what's thepoint right? So you know you know the peake, it's that classic snario rightwhere, if you play those fighting week decks and make it through the firstcouple rounds. You're probably doing pretty well and you probably havepretty low oys to continue to see them as you go through your tournament, so I for sure think th those stecks arecoming back, which will be teceny, sorces, detrimen yeah and I think,we've already kind of seen a small shift. So we're talking about againatturner, dis and Pikram, like maybe on the rise. I think Atturni Dis recentlyhas done pretty well you're. Looking at a couple of winds, there was thisSunday open, win on, let's see last Sunday with about ahundred and seventy players, you're looking at a few other top placementsfor cent to scorch. You know a couple of top AIGHTS and one top eight in aninth place, finishe in the higster recently, and so I think, sint excuseme. A turnidus is on that upswing. Already, like we've already seenplayers say, I think Aternitis is you know worth the risk of playing into afighting deck wheres. We haven't quite seen that with Pekaram like I think, alot of players are if they're playing a lightning deck that involves peakrum. Ithink there's choosing more for that. Mutu lightning build, which I thinkthat's perfectly acceptable. I think there's a lot of things that mutubegives you for the lightning pikeram style, deck, offor, areally, powerful,so yeah I mean both the Musy variante right now, seemd, like they're in adecent place, I mean just the verst atility. It offers the the differentattacks that you can utilize on that Mutu, obviously very strong yeah. I really am a fan still like lightningbase tex, but that has more of a Mutu or beataron focus. I really think thethe hype and I'm guilty of this as well like the hype for colossal was, was overplayed and Ithink the decks like degram like they have decent Ashan AP matchups. Theyhave decent seny sporch matchups that the matchup I feel like I want to seethe least is Pekrom is honestly like a turnof, his and sure, and that'sanother deck that' similarly suffered so yeah sure sure so, yeah and then I,the big point of contention in the tearlist that I had that I had tweetedout earlier today was the Mutu and whether or not you know me, two shouldbelong into your one or two two. I think that was the deck that I kind ofhad the hardest time. Placing, but ultimately it's lack of, like it's lack of overall results has kindof led me into that. Tear too I did some research on like you know, becauseI want to make sure that I wasn't just like talking out my bud right withthese with these lists. But I looked at a number of recent tournaments over thelast couple of weeks and just the win percentage of the Mutudeck, be itlightning base metto or welder metu, just wasn't as good as the other tearone deck. You O you're, looking at lukemetal being consistently at that,like sixty one. Sixty four percent win rate you like a bll suftline beingabout that sixty sixty three percent ATP somewhere. You know in the in thelowshighs and even Senso scorch having ssomewhere about sixty four sixty sixpercent from some of the turnamens that I was seeing, but you just didn't havethat kind of dominant well, not dominant that higher win rate with theMu to decks. I would say that from what I've seen the moutube welder decks havehovered right about fifty fifty in...

...terms of their win lost ratios per per tournament, and again that's not aperfect indicator of the deck's strength. Just because you know maybethere's one player that just loves me to that brings the whole archetype down.You know that, but ut bu, just generally speaking again, this is over.Multiple Sai was GOINTA prase it, but I was going to bring a sipilar point tothe table. Well, I don't mean to call anyone out, obviously, and not that Iam. I don't have any specific person in mind, but just that that would be areason why now, maybe that archetype isn't doing well on a win loss ratioand that's why it's kind of a flawd statistic to just only use, but I wouldcombine that with the fact that we haven't seen me to win or top for with the frequency thatwe've seen some of these other decks perform. I think the two othercorrolaries that you could bring to that is Mutu is pretty underrepresented, delative those other dacks yeah, whichof course, might be due to its Metaphysitian, but the other position.The other point that I would bring is that Muto has really volatile matchups.So I think something like something like a louke metal, Sashan and ATP arealways going to have like pretty similar game plans against every deck.I'm, whereas MOU two can have like really really tough matchup, someblowout matchup, some matchups that just really run hot either directionyeah so EA game dependent yeah. So it makes it like hard to like really lookat it and understand like what the win right means right like you. Could youcould face like forty WHIMSI cots and there's just nothing you can do as ifyou do rightlike yeah, ofcourse R. I will say, though, if I had to choosebetween the two mutus. The lightning mutue to me seems better for reasonsthat you know you know you get the autoparalyzedoption with the Ridche Ridshi, which wis really really important againstsomething like sent to scorch and you potentially could play a hammer. You know play hammers in that list aswell, since you don't need to rely on the welder package to power up yourattackers, and so that gives you a little bit more versatility anddifferent matchups. So I would personally prefer thelightning youtube variance and that also from what I was looking at inresults performed better on the whole again talking strictly win loss ratio perform better than welder mutum forsure so heading into this weekend. What do you think are going to be the topthree most play decks and what Woas your personal choice be? Well, so top three most played, I mean, Idon't think it changes, so I think ADP lukemetal and sent to scorch probablyremain at the top. I would probably say ATP with the most sent O scorch at number two and then Ithink luke metal will be number three, but you know so just kind of lookemetal and set te score switch from what's been the general trend over the last coupleof weeks, and then what would I pick? I would pick bliceffhalon. I think thatdeck can beat anything, but you might need to teck it, for you know you mightneed to sec for the mirror. I don't know you might need to take it for likea rise in chaotic swell. That's another card that I haven't seen is a ton ofchaatic swell. I think a lot of atps have generally shifted away fromchaatics. Well, and so you know you haven't really had toworry as much about that. I don't have a MAR shadow in my list right now, butI could certainly see including one for the weekend to try to get around thatcard, which again hasn't seen a ton of play. Another thing that would be alittle bit concerning would be a Ternitis if they run a power plants.Recent stamp package. I think that would be a pretty big. You know detriment to blisapline. Ifeel like that. Matchul would be pretty difficult if they could. You know,particularly if they can get something like a spir Tom, take a knockout andthen you knock ot a send te scored or excuse me, an Anneanternitis, vmax and then now you're at two prizes that can reset stamp. Youplay that power plant and then you're in a really tough spot. So if there isan turnatis that is playing that package, that would be a deck, I wouldbe worried about as blissephlon for sure yeah. I would, I think, IDlargely agree. I think the top three will probably be some mix and matchwith ATP ATS. The definitive number one is ATP than two and theree will be oneof Seny Scorchinn, the Caron that metal my personal choice. I think I would gowith a moutu variant somsort I not kind of waffling between the two.So I'm going to give a little bit of fliky answer. I like the diversatility thatwildermuse wo, gives you I'm o n get a little. You can kind of splash intothat sort of welder tool box. Things like Danny did yeah tournament, I thinkabout a week ago. I think that's a pretty solid option,but the lightning one seems a lot more consistent and I mean you can't denyhaving the full bloods into t. The...

...rightso immediate option is pretty good.SETRA YEP yeah agree, greedefinitely a fan of both variancs an Meto. Let'stake a few of the questions from chat here we have Danny, saying, have y'alllooked at Alex Shamansky's cram box on channel fireball, and the answer is forme: I have nots TAT's A. I have no but IAM interested to know a little bitmore about that jolly flying man says: Do you think snorlax has a place inblowns. I have been thinking about that jolly flying man and the conclusionthat I've come to is that I think I would rather play a draw card.That is immediate. So what I mean by that is, you know you could play eitherAzahan or Snorlax, and I messed around with both. But the problem that I runinto with both those cards is that if the opponent just has that Marni, then you know you lose it all immediately.So you never get to play any of those card, so I'd rather have a draw effectthat is able to be used immediately asopposed to having something that is you k, O you get the effect on the turnafter so my thought there is that you know you might want to if you'replaying a dedene and a Crowbat and a Sasian or if you're, playing a Dedeni,O the Crobat and a snorelax would be to cut the snorelack or the Zauhian and gofor another dodene. That's what I've really been enjoying or or that crowbedthat you're missing I've just been really enjoying the ability to draw anduse those cards immediately, and I think that has a little bit moreversatility, Yeh, definitely the immediacy of it, and I think it dependson how Marni heavy a Meta game is for sure. But the immediacy of it is definitely ahuge factor. It always feels a little weird to intepid stores than have't bemarnied, yeah yeah. For sure I mean it's just tough because to like, Ithink, weset stamp to and in certain matchups as a killer. I you know againhate of having you know, sent o Scorh reset stamp you and then the only wayyou can draw cards is you know your aution hat's, just like never a goodthing, I mean, obviously the other two had to be in your hand, so reseid stampstill could just decimate your hand, and you don't have anything, but you know it's a lot easier to draw itHov a reset stamp. If you have, you know a quick ball in your hand that youcan fetch out a Crowbat as opposed to trying to draw out of a reset stamp inthe only way you have to Dra cars is with your on board, poke monability yeah. I totally agree. I totally agree another. Nothing like nich point about.The SRONAC specifically is, I feel like. Sometimes Lesepalon can really run outof witch outs. 's like burning a couple of them to get tsomelix active and thenget it out of the active and then start stellawushing seem s a little. I don't know icky to me. I guess, likeI've, seen I've seen besepon burn through like six witch cards in a turnand like yeah having to sacrifice two of them just to get your storl exactive for one turn and have a he marnied, feelds, really bad yeah. It'sdefinitely tough, because you're, probably not going to ever play snorlaxas like a four of right, so immediately your chances of starting the snorlack,that's Ot, they're, very, very low. So yeah again, like you, said, you'regoing to have to burn two switch cards. Just to get an active as opposed to theDARACI, which Jis slats in a lot more easily, you have a really good chanceof just starting in immediately and you don't have to worry about getting itout of the active later. I also the thing about thes Aushian. To that Idon't necessarily love. Obviously you can build your hand to like a very vast sizes, but the two retreat Costasactually hurt me a lot recently. I don't know if you know, obviously that's a thing:eople smell, Thi Bot and the deal yeah, but it just it's really sucked it'sreally sucked having that gustid active early when you haven't, played yourfirst welder yet and then you're scrambling to find a switch, and it'sjust a big deal. So it's just being able to treat something like a beingable to retreat something like a Cramarat that you attached t you on thefirst turn or a dedene that you maybe started with for just that. One Energyis pretty valuable to me. Yeah totally agree any other questions before we jump in acar of the day. I don't see anything you major. So,let's get into it! So for this week's cart of the day I wanted to cover acard that I am thankful for, and I wanted to be a one that I'm thankfulfor recently, and so I tried to think about. You know what kind ofdevelopments the game has had recently, where things have been going andhonestly I've been a little less fucking about this. I'm not a huge fanof like BMAXES, I'm not a huge fan of like some of the more recent cards, butone hard in the sword. Shield block that I am very very thankful for is a certain car, that's a fourof andbasically every deck and that's quick ball, and so I just want to paint the picture if youstarted playing the game ore. Recently, the metagame pre, quick ball was anabsolute mess. You know like he only had cherish fall to search things out,which was so restrictive and the void...

...left by ultrebal and nesfall leavingwas immense, so be having the option to search how to Pokemon. I mean one pricedecx really needed that right like it was insane right. I cannot expressenough like how big of a deal it was that quickball is reprinted and giventhat new effect tits just an insanely huge deal, and obviously, if you hadold, quick balls Ho got that like a a nostalgia factor and B Lhike you coan,sell thim for a lot of money. DEP is also something to be thack ful for, butoverall just I that's a car. I really tak before Ilike honestly, like. Can you imagine having to play this format without withlike pcoms, as your only search like o be Ro thatwealawl? That would be sobad, and so I had another nerve to one prize decks, an basic decks. You knowso like be crazy. I got I their respect and I think it's a pretty well designedcard on the whole, like you know, ultraball has that extra versatilitybeing able to grab anything, but you dus card an extra card which sometimescan even be a good thing, whereas football, you know, get like alittle bit more of affect out of it than Nespog BS. It goes to your hand,but at the same time, Youe just cart a card I just seems like it fits right inthe middle of those two ex those two extremes of Nessan ultraball, so yeahcertainly certainly- and we look- you know we look on quick balls being youknow, kind of frustrating now where it's like. They feel so much like theperson that can start with a quick ball in any given matchof. Like has such ahuge advantage. I don't know if you feel that way, but I always know I kindof do I also another another pro to Cuick Ball. Is You canget stamped to one and draw a quick ball and then you top deck and thatcuil call s a playa ball where's, an ultraval if you get stamped to one orend to Wy, Jot ulthmall. That card is not playable for another to right. Thatis true yeah. I totally agree like football is so powerful. It kind ofdefines the pace of the game right now and you just wish you could play e ofthose suckers honestly, like that's true, that's how amazing the car? It isbut it to me it never felt I don't know it doesn't feel like a car. That's likestrictly insanely broken it's just it's a card, thet every deck needs andthrives with having sure, as opposed to something that's just like you, playd S,Instilim in the game, yeah right right, which I think is a mark of like adecently design card at the very least sure absolutely so. Thank you, Quick Ball. Thank you,Focem on for not leaving US stranded with peacom. I don't think we can goback to those times. That's right! No! I don't think so.Imagine if we ere all running like we were running like the oaks lectureor whatever anhays like our engin we could play is probably be like fourSONA ndecks yeah. Let Sony to only came out more recently. Until then we wouldhave had the like. The professor oaks, where you like, get three differenttypes or they go to your bench. Oh Crow. They don't get your hand Hno Yah, check yourself, Riley. Oh, nos such a mass e, such a man, people o play like one eevolution, sothey could use apolition incense for their peacomes or something yeah right,exactly sounds crazy, but I coand see it so so that's what I'm thankful for and so,as we wrap up today, GW I wanted to pose the question to you not a card,but what is something that you are thankful for within Pokma? We talkedabout this last year and we really hit on like the friendships element of it.So we're not allowed to say a friendships. What is something thatyou're thankful for within the POKEMON trading card game? What am I thankfulfor in the POKMON trading card, can't be a card and it can't be friendshipd. Well, I'm thankful for okay I'll kind of say two things,because one of them is like kind of friendships, but also it's kind of not,but the first thing. I am thankful for a client that we can use. I'm thankfulfor PCCGO. I know that's not a very popular opinion, but I think the morethat people say it Andand bring it into the universe. Themore that others will like, maybe not be as harsh on theclient I mean. Certainly there are criticisms to be had and very validones at that, but I think the way that we go about them can be out of aposition and posture of appreciation and wanting better, as opposed tocriticis, hurtful criticism and just kind of anket and and and vitrial, and so I'm thankfulthat we do have some game that we can play online with friends that we canorganize. You know these great tournaments with that we can...

...play together that we have somethingthat we can test our cards hat. We don't need to do scype things, andcertainly it's not at the level of some other card games, but I'm thankful thatwe have something like that. The other thing that I'm thankful for is thecommunity step up in these recent months. I think it's been reallyinteresting to see because I've been in the game for a long time and it's beenreally cool to see how many people have really stepped up and said. I thinkit's my duty to provide something to the game that can't be provided by thecompany itself and that shouldn't go unrecognized. So if your a tournamentorganizer out there and you're listening to this, I just want to saythank you for your efforts, because without you there would be no us well, there wouldstill be us, but there would be no us. Oh if you wite from existence Obut, you know itwould be harder, itwould be much harder for us and it I think the game just wouldimmensely suffer as opposed to just minimally suffer from the lack ofinperson events. So thank you to the people that run, and you know, I guess,extend that out to the people that attend online events for sure, that's Aff. What about youRaly the time it tell me something that you're thankful for outside of you know,Card design. I think I thought about this as well and Ithink for me, outside of car design, friendships. One thing I really enjoy is just howlike simple and fun the Pookmon trading card game is, so you know it's easy toget into, while still having that, like layer, complexity and so for me, andwhat I'm leading up to with this is it's really easy to just dive into PokHemon, and I got into Pokemon and really dove into it. When I was in likea really dark time, my life and even outside of the friendships, it was justsomething I could like channel my energy into and I always felt like. Iwas doing something you know I was a huge. I still did this day like I, Isolitaire cards and decks all the time and like Pokmons, like it's just agreat game where you can sit down and play your cards and and kind of Ju tforgout about everything else around you and enjoy the simple fun excellentgame that you're playing. So I'm thankful for Pokaman, not justfor the friends but for the opportunities to supporded me. I'd alsosay, I'm thankful for Pokemon for pushing meoutside my, like normal Copori zone, in the fact that you know I've traveled toall these interesting places. I've had new experiences. You know I went to Brazil have been allacross the country and to you know to Toronto, and all thesechool places that I definitely would have gone otherwise yeah. So that'ssuper cool and I love like sharing these stories with people. It's funny R, you know being like beinga ten year old and being ashamed of playing Fokemon and like toing, that toyour friends and now now I tell people e like because it's a cool thing that Ido yeah yeah, tit's, awesome man, that's no! I'm thankful generally forthe opportunities afforded to me my pokeman and for the experiences that Ihave with in it with both the ones I have in the living room on my friendsand the experience they have around the world as an individual yeah. Absolutelythat's great! That's great! Well, let's open it upnow to any viewer questions that you might have concerning tournaments setare up coming or concerning any kind of of future cards or anything you want toask. We have one here Danny says thoughts on Dra. I an pull the BMAXI'll pose that question over to you, Riley Yeah Dragon, Polt Ive. I thinkI've talked about on the cast. If not, I've definitely talked about it:offline, AA, puls, a cool deck and it'sdefinitely a fun deck to play. I think it leans a little too hard and just todeny energy to the point where it's like you know, is Jagopolt really the goodpart of this deck. Or is it just the fact that you're denying a crat ton ofenergy and dragopols also there, and I think it's more the latder than theforr? That's said, you know Jacker polts a really fun way to play thatstyle of deck. So you know no complaints for me, yeah, I mean, I think you just run intothe problems where you have vmax Pokman that just have so much HP. You knowwhen you're swinging in with Dragga Poul into a Cento scorge and it's afresh sent of scorch like it feels bad. You do have the snip right, so you can.You can make some cheeky plays, but like against the nontag teams againstthe vmaxes, you know atterniis, obviously horrible. You know colossal can't be great. Youknow a bunch of the other. You know, Antellihao metal is far to say: YeahLucario, melmental kind of sucks, but yeah it just. I guess those HIGHHPPokmon, just you're, not you're, not...

...having a good time, you're, not havinga good time so Dragapole, certainly something that I wouldn't be surprisedto see. Maybe take a top eight or a top sixteen slot, but definitely a deck. Iwould be surprised to see win an event yeah. I would agree the other comments in the chat here. Myfriend Thom as saying he's thankful for you n make a break. That's cool man got a comment from Sham Dodi in chat.Hope I didn't put you your name said: Hey First Time Watch you guys an twitchbye been subscribed and listening to guys padcast last evour weeks love thecontent El. Thank you so much. We're thankful for your viewershit Ryan says. Is there any chance for agood spreaddeck in this format? That's Good Question Sa Andrew recently postsomething about the Galarian Darmanitan vmax deck with that spread, and thenobviously there are some things that you can do with like Crama Crameran Bas,dex with the scope you know I was seeing some someexpanded lists that are playing scope with the mew and the Dimension Valleyand the Cramaran so you're hitting one ninety aturn for a stadium in a dcethat looks really cool. I don't know Raly. What are your thoughts onspreaddecks in this format in particular? Have you done any messingaround with Ar Manatan? Have you done any messing around with the BARRISKScuda crabby? You know not really more with be or evenorbutale. I guess yeah more with the orabeatle than anything, but honestly,like I was saying before, or Butal dosn't really take that much advantageof this spread, except if there's like as ixagoon on the field versus the turnit is so I don't know if that really qualifies.I don't know if there's like a really great spreaddeck at the fact that newexists kind of hurts the concept if they ever do rise to prominence right,because then people justplay you and they use their Foro fickballs to findthe meaw yeah, and so that's unfortunate, but yeah I don't know, I don't think,there's like an attacker for spread. That's good enough to really justifyspread. I think it's more like the decks. That spread are also are justlike. Generally, okay, like the Darmanishand, saw some success, butlike the Darmantens like a decent card, even without doing thes pread or not soyou know it's a highhpv Max tit does to hit chaos. It's, like you know, that'severy yeah thats as pretty Onta, exactly that's Kotd of my Bot. I don'tknow yeah yeah that the spread doesn't maybe impact the be spread. Is SpreadIsh good for sure it's just like you know. Does it really, at the end of theday, you're still a gigantic vmaxa to Cao stuff, so yeah yeah? That's forsure, just it just a different color! That'sHowi work blue this time, instead of instead ofred good. Well, that will close us off for the podcast. Think you guys onceagain for listening. I know Rilei said it already. I'm very thankful for youguys. Thank you so much for your support over the last. You know fewweeks, Wa W. I do have one more question for you. Actually in the spirtof thing, what is your favorite bird pokabon favorite bird pokeem on? Does noyback count? No, that's a MA'knoing bout! No Bout doesn't count. The mambl. Okay does crowback count. Bats are still mammals. Last I checkedokay, so zoo bat, nor Gol, bat or Swoob at for thattime.For me to take a biology, classi'm, Messini'm eman, I'm emen, let's see I think and have to be likeunpheasant. That's a untraditional answer yeah! Well, I just rememberthere as this unpeasant yew prime deck back in the day or Youd lost on the theon pheasant and then you would get to flip and the heyce o like two coins,and then it would make you invincible, and that was just like so gas yeah.That's still like a legacy deck, isn't it yeah? It is funny, that's funny, I think, for me, it's a tossup betweenswellow and Talon flame, both Bot classics, e Toi got a classic, but a recentsuccess. Yeah Yeah, very good ones- well, tha not to take away from yourthought. We do sinctecurly appreciate and our thankbulfore all of the members.His community were thankful for the Pokmon community at large, and we, since we just can't expressthat enough. You know we thank you all the time and it doesn't really do it.Justice be sure to follow us for more on our social media platforms. That'ssmiles of frils, Real John Walter and Tacdi Bokemon on twitter, as well asour twitch channels. That's munner and...

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