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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 28 · 7 months ago

3-28. The Battle Styled Episode

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back in style... battle style! Come check out a top 10 list of the new cards from the Battle Styles expansion. Fun for the family!.. unless your family is fighting weak.

Yo, what is up guys welcome back to tagteam? The POKMON trading card games, fom, eare, podcasting duo minding, isRaly Holbert joint, as always by my phenomenal friend Mr JW Cree Wall, dwhow's it going today. It's gone pretty well Riley. How are you I am doingswell man I'm doing well, Ias a long wee lass week not going to lie but o know rest and relaxed, and I have aFriday off which is kind of cool. That's great! What are you going to dowith your Fridays? I feel like I can't I mean. Maybe I hade, maybe I can'tremember the last like true rest day that I had but like what are you going to do? I know thatyou're, a big fan of you, know selfcare and like treating yourself so a yougoing to go somewhere, get some food or what's r. what's your plan for Fridayyeah, I was planning on I'm getting some like pancakes fromlike a local place and they have these like sweep potatopancakes, wicd sound, weird, but they're, really good. It's okay and I was going to make like a a largerdinner for myself as well, something I haven't decided what it will be yet,but it'll be good yeah and you w its kind of refresh take like that extralong weekend, recenter my Chacra and all that kind ofstuff. Is that something that you're into no?But you know philosophically Ion Wan a that right. I I'm trying Toyouno bringmyself back to like a normal state of beat harmony. If you will yeah like amore harmonious existence, because I'm still like kind of feelingthe effects of it for sure this Weeken wasn't as restful as I was hoping, itwould be because my cats were kind of trained to wake up pretty early after the last week, so they'restarting to wean out of it now but theyere like waking me up very earlyfor a couple days. There Gotcha yeah, that's annoying for sure it is. It iswhat's going on with you. Well boot camps going along chuckingalog. It feels like it's going, O Briak thats next speedright now we're at week, nine, obviously more than halfway throughweek, nine, and so there's only four weeks left, which is just crazy tothink about. I'm excited for battle styles. I got acouple of products in the mail from e Pogma Company, so very thankful forthat going to be open in those on the channel at some point in the future andyeah life is good. My wife has a job interview down in well she's, not goinganywhere, but it's for job down in Texas and so that's kind of excitingwe've. You know, as you know, we've been looking at houses, so that's likejust as kind of exciting. You know all these. All these things that couldhappen in the future are pretty exciting. Yeah. Absolutely sorry, my cat was likegeving Bruth, O ter, and she just gas like wow, something somebody is wailingin the backoundsust listenng to. I was just listening to a a bird as like a ghost bird. It'scalled the Ghostburd Colloquuilli and it has this woot. That sounds like awhailing person. Yeah, there's a lot of creatures thatmake like bigly human oy kind of scream sen, you think of like the mountainlions right and they the screams that they make as my cat,if she doesn't know where I am, she gets really anxious. I guess and o CryUntil Li she cound figure it out. So very cute. EAIT is what it is it's, but youmentioned Deole styles, you mentione getting that product from pokemon and Iam excited as well about battlestyles if it feels like we've been hyping, Balsals up for a long time now, so I'm excited to dive into it and take a lookat what's going on there. So, let's just die right in head. First TSO JWand I talked it over ver some some fightingor is you know a little bit ofbran involved a lot of dissension. You knowplenty of muscles brought to the table and you know after we settled ourdifferences. We've come to a agreement on the top ten cards, plusone honorable mention or batter styles. So we wanted to take the cast today andreally run through those give you a sneak peak at what we're thinking withbattle styles in terms of the individual cards and what kind ofpotential they have sotw on. You start us off well, as with most TCG sets,they're often carried by the trainers and supporters, and I think that thisset is no different. Usually you'll, see these rankings and they'll be alittle bit...

...underwhelming for some people, becausethey'll say: Oh, come oon, you guys rated. You know these. These itemsreally highly like come on now, but you lookin back at it, and those are thecards that have the most immediate impact, just because they're the mostflexible and so our top ten littered with a bunch of really good items, butalso some very interesting Pokmon as well. We start off with a card that isa reprint there's a few of those reprints in here, just so good thatpokemon couldn't help themselves but bring it back, and that is experience.Share. Experience share a tool goes on one of your pogmon and if it's on thebench and your active gets knocked out, it's going to take all the energy fromthe active onto that pokemon. So a really nice card. It obviously has somevery, very big energy in my mind, withattackers that need a lot of energy so immediately, I'm thinking somethinglike an amazing rar right where it takes a lot of effort to power it upand then it just gets knocked out and then allthat energy leaves well now, if you have an experience you there, maybe youcan start to chain your amazing raers. That's where my mind goes. I don't knowthat it necessarily makes a competitive, but there's certainly otherapplications for it. I wouldn't even think in Adect, like Welderdecx, youknow well they'r Neu, to send to scorch those kinds of thingsthat really like to have the energy on board throughout the entirety of thegame. That might be a nice lotal edition there yeah. I was thinking aswell like dex that use bulltons would really like it. You know even it turn into second seeit potentially be liy yeah, that's a really great point.Riley there just seems to be a lot of applications for the card and thereason that it wasn't ranked maybe higher in the list it's just because we could see it being that kind ofsixty first card right like there might just be better cards than theexperience share an a lot of list, but it is so widely applicable. I mean itcould be played ind pretty much. Every deck, except maybe pouring on ite, werethe only enteryeh special niterally could go in any single deck and thenyou also have kind of e the problem of well. If a lot of people playexperience share, then you probably will see a lot of dangerous drills ortool scrabpers being teched into deck. So you know there's kind of thatcounterbalance to between how good will it be, and if it is so good well wehave a pretty simple counter to the card, so I love experience. Shere, Ithink, will look for it to make a pretty significant impact and then, but,like I said, you have that counterplay between that and the tool scraper coming inthat number ten starting the list here is a card that I was kind of high onRiley, maybe not so much, but it's Bronz on- and this is another cart thatfeels like a very y o feels very similar to cards we've seen in the past,something like Hydrogon for when I started playing which could move arounddark energy with its dark transibility. Well, it's the same kind of idea. Youcan move around metal energy, but on a stage one- and I think that's a verycrucial point that needs to be made here on the brod song that maybe makesit a little bit different from some of the other energy movers that we've seenin the past. Of course, the stage one that I kind of think of that would come to. I think a lot ofour listeners minds that has been a very tom ter archetype in both standardand expanded since it was released, was the aromatics. Our romatist was really nicebecause you could he feel back when it was. You know, in the expandid formayou play with Maxpotien and things like that. So really, Nice with those bigheavy attackers and you culd, move a bunch of stuff around. You could playwith the special energies, the rainbows and stuff the power of alternateattackers, and I think broad song fits that mold pretty well. We have Aurorawhich can be utilized by you, know those those tech attackers if you will-and we also have just the best metal pokmon ever printed in the format rightnow that accelerates energy on to itself. So I'm just looking at hatbronon. I think this has got to be a winner yeah. I think browns Zong deason aswell. I just wish there was more healing informat, really where's, MaSocionof, this per fair yeah yeah. That's Super Fair Yeah. The only realhealing that we have that's, maybe even comparable to a Max potion- is thehyporpotion and that forces you to discard energy and so like it forcesyou to Discurray, not that Youco it away, but you actually have to discardenergy in order to heal. We have Malloane Lana, but still you knowyou're using a supporter tond not even fully heal a pokemot, so yeah it doesfeel a little bad. Like you mentioned, we are getting that Itsolidiam thatwhat it is, my goodness, why did I forget? I likeit, was on the if my tan anyway, there's one, but it only applies to theevolved pokemon when you play it as a...

...supporter, so yeah, certainly not manyof the healing cards that we would shareal my bed. Okay, that's what Ithought it was. He said: Yeah! No, I'm was like it's a girl and then I was like thinking Ele AlenaOlina. I believe yeah like oo a little bit awkward if you're trying to playwith more basic focus, buills that center around Sahan and the varioustechantackers you can play with Aurora. I will say, though, like there is a lotof middle excel on the format and Orin else onformat, so I'm interested to seewhat avenues Bron Za opens up deat, absolutely well in the theme of searching in manipulation. I wanted tohit on our next two picks kind of in Tantem here, so at number nine we havehounddoom the single strike Houndo, so single strike houndum. Honestly,this is a really really powerful card and I think the only reason that a lotof the single striht cards aren't ranked higher is just because thesingle strike archetype isn't all the way there. The support cards for singlestrike are really really good. INGL strike Pokemon are a little bit lacking,in my opinion, that's said so the Hounddoom. What itdoes is once per turn. You may attach a single strike energy from your deck toone of your single strike pokemon and at the cost of having to put two damagecounters on that pokemon. So really not nagregious cost for such apowerful effect and the single strike energy will touch on later is alsoincredibly powerful. That level acceleration is prettydifficult to find, especially in current format, so I'm doing reallyoffers a lot to your deck. Everything could thear w yeah. No, I'mjust looking at I'm trying to remember the card that this is representaavofeand I was looking up it's kind of like dark electrode. That was the card thatcomes to my, but I think yeah there's a better card, I believe from the kind of like magma series, butyeah searching he, the energy out of the day, a dark electron attaches it toitself the Houndo. You can attention to other places, so I was trying to tryingto remember exactly what it fel like. I feel I there is some kind of card. Thisis very similar to yeah, where you like, put damage counters and it's not I'mnot thinking at es. I believe it's team, Magmas Clatal, I wouldn't know I don't know anythingabout tea magma cards, something like that yeah, regardless, though Hounddmis just it's. It's held back by the training weigvs of being for singlesthrike. So, building off of that, we have kind ofthe rapid strike. Equivalent of that, and really we see, the dematic liketones of single and rapid strike emphasize really well an these pokemon.So artillery we have is number eight. It performs a similar role as hounddoombeing a stage one support pokemon or the single O rappa strike archetype,but artillery is more around like utility or an overall, like generalusefulness. So, instead of being explosive likeHowndo and throwing energy onto your board, artillry lets you consistentlygrab single stright cards out of your deck, so once perturn you can useartillery to grab a single striket card out of your deck and put it into yourhand, rapic strick. Sorry, thank you. So generally, what we're seeing is thatrapid strike is more based around like consistency, and you know maneuveringaround your opponent, where a single strike is more about being explosiveand trying to get big Ocos, maybe for a cost and generally. What I find is thatthose consistent strategies, as long as they have respectable output, will tendto be a little bit better. So actilery we have is a little bithigher and it has more versatiller versatility as well, so you're not limitis, just grabbing thatrapstrike energy with actillery. You can get things like your your vs andyour vmaxis. You can get your stadium cards, you can get your item cards sothere's just so much. You can do with that. That's really! It's honestlyimpressive. Like the amount of cards you can just grab. Hor Free, know,sorry right wone can say it has a lot of versatillery. You know his like. Ialmost jumbled my words and said that, so I really do think, though, I think ifthe single strikt cards were better, that Houndin would be a higer rant carthan Actilleragor, because I think it's more powerful but actoly just has somuch mere going for it as the cards that exist in the pool currently go,and you kind of see that name as we go through like any single and rapidstraight card yeah. I couldn't couldn't agree moreright now. Certainly, the I seems to...

...favor the rapid strike, but as theykeep printing more sets, I mean this is not going to be the only set with thismechanic. So, as we see more cards, you know, presumably there might be more ofa big mound struck between the two types. So great, that's a good overviewof those two cards coming at number. Seven is a very interesting trainercard again, something that we, you know, have kind of seen before, but not maybein this exact flavor. So it's a little bit of a new use for this card, andthat is the fan of waves. Now Fan of waves or billowing fan, as it'stranslated here on Poka beach is an item card that is rapid strike return.A special energy cards attach o one your opponents Pokmon to the bottom ofyour opponent's deck so very similar to you know things like an hand stamer ofthe past and yeah just a very cool card that hasa little bit of a different use. I mean there might actually be a reason to useand Hande tammer versus billing fan or fan of waves. Likethere's actually a reason to use one of the two cards, so I think that that'sreally cool that it has a similar effect, but it's not exactly the sameto give players a little bit more deck, building advantage or or deck buildingchoice when trying to decide what they should include. You have any use casesin mind where you would rather have pan of waves. You had both afaable to you. It would be like putting putting just putting cards thatare bad into your opponent's deck. Maybe you use a billing fan and thenyou are going to end them right. So now they have an energy in their deck thatmaybe is not in out to winning the game or something like that would be. Thatwould be a use case for that absolutely no sense and I'd also call out, likeenergy denial, so important in this farmat. You know people continuallywill talk about those crashing. Hammers and special energy is also reallyimportant. This format, I'm also yeah, I'm also thinking to with the billingfan. Just having like. Let's say it's the light game and you billowing fanand your opponent yeah and you're going to Marni right, and you can force youropponent to draw into the energy that they you know that you put back into thebottom of the deck so now you're, essentially controlling you, know oneof those cards that they draw. That could be another. You Know Yeah Housabsolutelyy for sure, yeah paired with like another descruption card, you cankind of like control their hand, a little bit yeah. No doubt yeah, I meanI'm a fan of the card. I think it'll definitely see play especially. I'venoticed a lot recently, an optic in people using capture energy as like aconsistency engine while also getting an energy dattachment. This kind ofpunishes that right so like if you capture energy, your Aturnitis, an you open yourself up to beingbilling. Fanned, yes, exactly exactly that's a reallygood point. It's! It is one of those things that you know it should seesignificant play right. It's just that good. There are a lot of really nicespecial energy. You think about the speed lightnings like capture. Like youmentioned, you think about the the osingle and rampant strike energies.You think about the Heatfire, you think about the coting metal. I mean the listpretty much goes on and just to have the option to get rid of it in a way.That's consistent right, I think people look at crushing. Hammer is being alittle bit unfair because it's not that consistent disruption, and so we haveit. Everyone has Hese S, has this card available to them, and so you can play around it or not right oryou can get punished by it. Absolutely I see a question. The chat that I'dlike to get to you fore. We get to her NEX card, a a KSE Hawk ass. Do you seeit cutting into hammer slots in most EKS? I could see it. Maybe I thinkwhere it will see, the most use is either in addition to or for decks thatcan't really afford to play that full, crushing Hammer Swit, you can playbillowing fan to get a legup on decks that use Thospecial energy. So if you're only so- I guess the point I'm getting at isyou're only using crushand camera to be ADP. You still need the crushinghammers right, like billing fan, won't get you there, versis ATP, if you'retrying to do it to disrupt other dacks in the format and maybe you're justlooking to get like one or two cards to get that disruption. Building Pan isreally good for that slot. Yeah Great Point Great Point: Let's talk about our next card thos andyou know you just referenced it. So a great pair with the billing fan isnumber six and we paired some cards into this one and that's going to betessential. We kind of cheated because we had a lot. We wanted to say it's going to be the Singal strike andthe Rapistrak energy. If I had to rank them, I would say theSingla Strike and Energy and a vacuum is a better gard yeah, but we don'tlive in a vacuum, so I would say the...

...rapistrike energy is a better card andpractice yeah. So let's go through a to them. Thowgh. So single strike energy. You it'sbasically a strong energy, except it performs the role of being bothfighting in a dark energy. So you see the single stripe, pokemon or reallycongregating as being fighting and dark types, and so this allows you to power upthose variety of attackers again matching kind of like the Ershafuhaving the dark and the water evolution branches. So you have that like dual power upoption and it does the twenty more damage which is insane, I mean those wejust think about how good strong energy was in his day, as will really reallylove that card I'll. Tell you that much. So this is really big for single strike,pokemon that want to get that extra damage output, because what we'reseeing is the single Sha pokon really want to get Okos and things like thesingle Srike Ershu Emax. Don't all the way get there on their own, so havingadditional modifiers like that, energy will be super important. The raperstrike energy. On the other hand, it's kind of like the theme goes it's moreabout like getting consistent, verstile option, so it provides to energy andit's either a fighting energy or water energy. So y allow your power up a variety oftackers and lol as you power them out quickly and we'll see this be really important.With some of our later cars, particularly the Erhpov Max for the rapstrike archetype, but really its just such a strong card. I mean you'v Seenthat will color US throughout the ages be an incredibly powerful card. Thisone is searchable with actillery, so you can very reliably get out of yourdeck and it powers things up pretty much right away. So just slam this on arapisheck, pokmon and usually they're, pretty much ready to go after that,maybe y like one more attachment necessary from there. So honestly, both these energy cardsare really impressive, it's hard to say in a vacuum which one is actuallybetter than the other. You could definitely make arguments either way and thit's kind of we want it. Wewanted to lump them together because they v fill very similar roles fortheir archetypes and they're, both just really really good yeah rig. I think you hat the nail onthe head. It's it's really cool we've seen pretty much with with most ofthese cards that Pokemon is kind of bringing back old concepts, but in anew way, and that's exactly what they've done here. I like theversatility of the rapid strike being able to power up, like you, said, a lotof different pokemon very quickly, but then the damage output is just aclassic effect. That is just really good to have it's just always nice andit's so fun, it's so fun to stat someon and it stacks. You know. So, if you'regetting four of those badboys down on you know an Orshfu vimax like you'rehitting for so much. You know it just gets ridiculous and you slam thesupporter as well like there's nothing more satisfying than like having somecrazy damage. COMBO YEAH! That's right! Absolutely! So I'm really lookingforward to these couple of cards, but it'stake a little bit of a break hereRiley. I know we want to get in the cart of the day, and I also wanted totalk about some of the cards that didn't make our list. That think maybehave a shot at and being played, or at least ar on our radar as on the cust ofGrat, as Yeah Orr, yeah being some of the more funcards yeah, which is also greatness in of itself. I would argue, that's true,that's true! So for yeah, so I know you all are waiting in eager anticipationfor the top five, but I wanted to take a second and do part of the day, and so,in the spirit of our batl styles, styled cast. I wanted to choose abattlestyles card and the choice for me was obvious, and that was in polyomv,so polamv when it was first revealed. It was one of the most like insane kindof reveal moments ever for me because they finally come up with the term,like the rule term, describe these special pokemon that being ruleboxpokemonnd sa for the underware and Poleon v. When it's in the activeposition, it blocks abilities on any rulebox pokemon. So that includes yourgxis. That includes your vs. Your vmaxis includes prism stars. Itincludes breaks anything that has that libel rulebox on it, and so that's just so cool because I feel,like I've been saying forever. We need some way to categorize these pokemingenerically without having to you know, reach back all the way toexes to future tro far cards, and this is exactly the way to do that. So having the term itself was reallycool, but then an pulling on takes it to the next level, because it's secret,rare art, is so good. It's such a cool, looking card, you know what to talkabout Ouo seen it tal talk to us a...

...little bit about it. Yeah so and polionis also a rapid strike card and he has a Secretar art where Heis just joined in by all hisrappin strike. Buddies s you got actillery you got meand show. I thinkit is with thim and it's just a good old time. They're having S it's justsuch a beautiful card. I love, I love them. POKON cards like incorporateother pokemon in an nontag team kind of way, like they're, just part of the art andpart of the story of the card, and I feel like the empolle on secret- arekind of like ties together. Thi Story, like all these, like Kung Fu, warrior rapid strike, Pokemaand like training together and getting ready for their next situation. Sure soit's just. I love the fact. Thet introduce rulebox. I love the card. Ilove the arts on it and Polyon is a fan favorite. You know evolving from Piplupwho's, one of the most popular starters, I'm pretty sure, so, just a they knockdout o the park. I like it. That's great. That's that's! ReallyCool Yeah! I can't wait to see where pokmon takes its rolebox idea was againsomething that I was extremely excited about as well. When they first revealedit and it opens up just a wide world of possibilities and it just was soawkward to have to say. Oh it you know includes gx Ex, you know, etc, etc. Youknow the kitchen sink, you know it just made it so that we could understandwhat they meant like these special cards right, because that's all theywere right. Th, the two prize book, Mothe Three Prize Bokmin and now justsays rulebox, and it makes everything nice and clean. So I love that absolutely so JW. What are what are some of yourstandout cars? What some of the fun cards that you're looking at well there's a number of them Ri! Think thatthere's there's one in particular that stands out to me as being potentiallybetter and expanded than in standard just considering the Cardpool, and thatis the horbitle. The warbeatle from this Ayou've been onthe torveto grand to I know. I know I brought it up before, but just beingable to to evo control you can, you can attach you know energy and then andpull up poke hemon out of your deck stage to Pokemon for every energy thatyou have attached so really interesting. I mean that is acar that we've seen in the expanded format in the form of credily, but theonly real way to get out cradily was to Avoba through Ditto ecause, the rarethan the fossil mechanic isn't really that good and is kind of spotty withthe different fossils and expanded so orbital. You can actually just get itout through normal evolution rules and still has that evil control attack costnot a colored energy cost just a color lest energy, and that also opens it upto being powered up with the W triple excel twin double color list, like many otheroptions there as well in terms of powering it up, and you can get youknow multiple pokemon out with those multi energy, so I'm excited for it.It's always really fun to see what kind of Combos people can think of with three or four stage twos in the playthat are all different yeah exactly exactly, and so I tes stage. TES aresome of the most fun Pokmon and it's always nice. When you see the gamedevelopers, maybe maybe going in a different round with the entirety ofthe game, but at least opening up the possibility of some kind of alternateway to play- and that is you know now- it's pretty basic and stage one heavy,but maybe there's something that comes along then, maybe there's some stage tothat makes orbeatle and thus stage Tos Bible theChosen One. That's right. I like it. I like it yeah what elsejumps Doun Ees, Oh what else jops out at me. Oh I mean I chank. I could talkabout one that jump Saut at me. No, I want to talk more. I wantone card thatI think was pretty interesting. That was actually suggested to me by my goodfriend. Blake was the FLAPPL and I said Oh plappl, the the vmax. You know it'sprobably not going to be very good. You know it only does damage based on howmuch HPI has left es like no, no, no, The v. So flampelv is a card that you know, attack Froa graps and itcauses your opponent to need two more energy in order to attack on their nextturn- and I was just thinking about how applicable this might be to some kindof stall deck like how much they would want a card like this to you know notnecessarily do the damage but to have that effect at the attack. So flapilvis something that I'm certainly looking at with that sour saliva sour salivaattack as being something that immediately woull be useful to any KOFSTALDECK in our car. Forman.

Absolutely love to see that you know. One Cardthat I actually think is really interesting is the. Is The Rain Dance Charam? You know having the rein dance on astage. One is obviously good. It's just and I like how it'srestricted on Roleboxes, because I like that they're using the rule outside ofempoease. It means that theyrethey're setting the president that you can putthis on other cards. Yes, so the chairom- I don't know if it'll beimmediately useful, because I don't think there's like a lot to do with ityet and like you, have the option of of using the super growth on a real boom at just accelerating grassthat way, but the fact that they're using therule again have a cool card to do it. I just Ilike that. I like that they're trying yeah, that's great, that's great charm.Of course you can power it up. I think what they were trying to go for in thisset with the with the Cherum. Is that Booloo, the Tampa Booloo, where youdiscard an energy to do extra damage, so they were clearly kindof thinking with those two in mine. I think trying to give you know an intoductory deck to two players, sovery cool there. Speaking of Grass Pokeamon, we've kindof been on a kick. drant comes back, yeah, a lot of refrends and we'regetting maybe the funnest kind of and lovea lat to go with it and Loveablleto go with it. You know we get one of the funnest arcotypes in the history ofthe Gameback Induran. I don't think that there's a single person that wouldever say that they didn't like the ran unless they played in the format thatDurant W was a factor so dran coming back. Has thatdevout helthing anyone woul say they don't like Duran unless they playedwith or against her basical? That's what I'm saying: Yeah Yeah. It was ahorrible card to play against for sure back in the day you just fot sohelpless and the ease with which they could do it. Because, back when Iplayed back when durant was the thing they had a lot more tools available,one of the big ones was revive, so it just get that pogemon right from thediscard pile back to the bench like you, wouldn't have to shuffle it into thedeck and then try to find it again. Now you just played revive, you got to ritetback on to the bench, and you were you know discarding for over and over, andthere were also ways to search the prizes switch out your prize cars withRhodem. So you didn't even have to worry that much I mean you did have toworry, but you now have worried that much about what souprised and- and itwas just yeah, that was a that- was a dangerous, dangerous archetype back inthe day. I think nee o look at it right now. We don't quite have the tools thatit used to have, so it gets neutered a little bit by that reusability of Pokemon, like Italked about having the shuffle at Indi your deck and then find it again can bea little bit of a strain, especially when you have to do it every singlleterm, aright and there's just not that grade of you know you have to find thetwin energies every single turn, so the devour attack on the original Diran.You could do it for one metal and now you can only do it with well. You couldh attached twice, but obviously the name of the game is speed when you'retrying to mil the opponent out so finding those twin ever Jesus going tobe a real big hurdle for the deck yeah for sure. But it's cool to see it atthe very t least, absolutely couldn't agree more and I I also want to give a shoutow to toPhebe. I don't think it's like a phenomenal card, but it's one of thosecards that I feel like people will throw into their decks, giving those vmax pokemon the abilityto pierce through any effects. You've seen this kind of effect be usedwith stuff like Wultra forse carton. Voy was used with the I don't know exactly what to call it,but like the the guds Lord nd Aganadel, Tis Megius deck, where you just seceller with be Srings,and then you had ultra forest carton Voy to get through the Caldeos thisskind of like a similar idea. where, if you play like a couple, Cynthiancatlind, you could use this to pierce through, like sidizes or even like same sento. Yeah. That's areally great point, and I love that from the current design perspective ofjust having these cards that aren't necessarily the most useful, like theyprobably won't be played in in high counts at any point of their lifetime,but at least they exist at least there's that option for people to play it in their deck athey at least have the choice to do it. I think that's that's a great thing, sowhy don't we head back into the top ten? So we are on number fivetherere. Only five cards left in our top ten number, five spokmon that is isis whone. We already have...

...one that evolves from a Pokman that we alreadyhave and makes it way way matter way, more versal that isVitini vmax, so vitn vmax. I was telling Rileybefore the CASI was like Eyman. We got to get this card on the top ten,because this thing is just destroying over in Taiwan. Now they have adifferent system. therther, their card pools alittle bit different than ours, but it's still doing particularly well overthere, and I think that you look at the Vmax and you look at the attacksand it makes a little bit more sense. So the ttvmax Toeter N TNHP spreadingflames attack exactly the same as the Vigtnev, the basic, but it costs acolorless instead of a fire attach up to three fires and Strede plams alreadycassedacolist or is it I thought it was cololess cost, but you can onlycelerate fire alrighdy Ohioh. Okay brass is exactly the same that I'mmisspoke but accelerate three energy: three fire energy for Miuis car, pileto your Pokamon in anyway, you like it. Then it has a victory. Max Attackunderdamage little underwhelming. But if your oponets active as a pookmind ofV, then this attack does a hundred and twenty more damage. So if we look atthis card in the context of cormrand format, itseems good, but maybe not overwhelmingly good, just because wehave a lot of gx attacker still. You know you think about ATP. You thinkofout, Pekachu and Zetcrom. There's still plenty of gx pokemon out there,and so that victory Max is going to be super underwhelming against those. But you also think about how many V pokm ontheyre, on how many Vmax spokem on there are- and this thing is oneshotting, the like SOM Sassian, it's one shotting a lot of the Basic vPokemon, so things like colossal and iternities and just generally seemslike I could put a lot of pressure on very early and in doing so can reallyout trade with these big VVMAX DEX yeah, and I think what really sold meon this is the fact that it evolves some a really good B, so thevtv withthe same respreating flams attack as well. As I forget the name of theattack forus man. My brain is fill in me today, but just thirty times theamount of energy attached to both Pokmon, which Bhat can really add up so,whereas the victnv Max would only hit a Pekrom for a hundred pretty much, nomatter what the victinv, on the other hand, which still has like a decentchunk of HP, it has one ninety which for Pikarom, and sometimes they topp toget over yeah. You know you're still hitting for ahundred and fifty at the minimum agais the peeker on there with five energyacross both Pokmin yeah, like you, said there, that that spreading flamesattack very good on the V. Ttv colorless is correct there, but theenergy burst Andreyever, there's the entirement thirty times right, you'redoing thity times for each energy. So if you're, not maybe Y swingin for bigdamage with the Vigtnvmax, maybe there's the route that you go with thevcttv yeah, I'm like we TINB Plou to Zommzentaz and yeah, exactly maybe it'seven better than going iner. The TB maxs another thing that you couldpossibly do with a lot of these remaxes that I really like how they've kind ofcreated these pokmin is just like they have. We have a memory cassuleavailable to us, so maybe there's a way with the VICTVMAC archetype to includeone maybe to the memory cancile and then all of a sudden you can go aheadand energy birst. You know maybe e Lake Game Right, you're, building up a giantVICTN vmax to try to one shot things with energy burst, so just something toconsider another little flavor that you could add to the stick, got a memorycapsule your victnvmacx, so you can use spreading flames from your fitiny beet.Oh, that would be a pretty epicg Mo men for sure. I think one other thingthat I want to call out just before we wrap up with tnvmax is so the questionthat comes up is: Why would you play this over Acentis porse right at theother, like big fire deck? I think the reason that you could argue for fifteenMax oversent scorch is the low attack, cost and low maintenance of the deck sobetween spreading flames and the two energy attack costs you don't need to hit a welder withinyour first two turns to be doing that respectable damage. You know, assumingyour energy doesn't get hammered, you can just attach Attacha Ale and you'realready doing your damage up to Twu d twenty without having to doany other additional maintenance. I'm that lets you play like a higher coundof research and stuff yeah yeah. Exactly it maybe opens thedoor, for you know, send a scorch does try to play some disruption cards. Youknow some Sentos scorchers will play. You know up to two reset stamp. SomeCENTU scorters Il play the Guaritina, but those always feel like like theycould be cut at any moment. You know...

...those always feel like kind of the onthe fringe of necessary cards, but with Vitin Vmax, like you said, having the Energy Excel on the Poke Monis really nice cuts out the need for something like volcanion or at least lessons the need forsomething like Bolcanyon and then gives you the option to to not have to relyon welder, thereby opening those slots to be used for many different things.You could go more of a disruption, focus crushing hammer comes to mind.You could go more of just straight consistency play for Bictini for theVima xen. You know for research just going like that. I mean there's a lotof different ways that you can potentially play this arcetype andthat's because you're not prolion on the welder strategy, anamazementrotation, proof which is awesome. That is awesome. So, let's go into our nextcard, though I feel like we keep parpin on Victini. If you let us have theopportunity to so number. Four on our list is another reprint Anna is goingto be level ball, so this is a car. A lot of people are big fans of myselfincluded, let's use, grab or free any ninety HP or less pokemon, which issuch a good effect, especially for evolving decks or like little attackingbasic kind of deck. Sas Ti like Spiritom, really enjoy levelball, it's just such a good card. It's such awell designed card in my opinion, so it's really good to see it come back. Ithink we've been seeing some of these like more basic, evolve up kind of deckstruggle because they don't have access to likea quick evolution mechanism and or like a quick way to get theirbasics on the board is just like a huge part of it. Qlick ball is great. That'sa really good card, but that's only one like one search car where usually thesethese decks will run quite a few so being able to pluck your basics outof your deck is so awesome. Free search is something that thesesetup decks have needed for a long time. They have tried to get around it withcapture energy, but it's just not the same. You know there are a lot of timeswhere it makes more sense to have a level buht there are. There are sometimes where it makes more sense to have a capture energy, but just having moreoptions makes these decks more viable. Now. Is that to say that, now thatlevel walls on the scene like all of these set up decks and all ofthese you know kind of littler decks are you know going to see? You Know Tirone te ter one threats? No, that's definitely not saying that, but justhaving that option is a step in the right direction. I can tell you, though,my my charzar deck is't, ready to uselevel ball to grab those charm manters to grab this derasis it's time to go.Let's do it, man lets, do it lat's Dome Finto. Our next card, though,do Vu also a reprint. Yes also, I mean I feel like that's the theme right. Itseems like they are bringing a lot of these cards back to the V format, The vBlock, as it were, and that's a good thing. I think pokmon knows whatthey're doing in the sense that they have these cards that have been goodfor a long time, they've seen play over the entirety of their lifetime andthey're just holesome solid cards that aren't too broken one way or the other,so that next car number three on our list is a scaperoad. Now this Ray Cardin the what team up format before rotation, where we could use it withGeraci- and you know, use that as another kind of out to moving theDiracho. Now, of course, we have scoobup net, but I think a scaperope isreally nice as it fulfills that kind of pseudogusteffect, while also providinga switch effect, and that's something that I think a lot of dex right nowactually want. I look at a deck like ATP, as maybe wanting over the airballoon those escape ropes. Not only can it get something out of a paralysislock, that is so common aget t the deck like Pekram, but it can push youropponent's active Pokemon, which is usually an attacker to the bench andmaybe bring up a more favorable thing to swing into. So I really like ascaper up a lot. I think it for a number of decks probably takes over theslots that that Airbullance occupy currently andthey even cut into the switch counts that people are playing yeah. I thinkdecks that plays Zashi and especially, are really going to like a scapebrope, mostly because there's not too manypokemon that really want to take a hit from Asahan and usually, if you're,playing at Asashi and you'l you'll, throw the pokem on who can take the hitactive and the ones you can't take a hit will all Yeu on the betchpopulating your Bengh, and this allows them to draw withProfessor's research I'll still getting one of those little bench suckers up inthe active position, I mean you think...

...about Pekerom, especially like you know,usually, Yo'll have like one tanky boy and the active, and you know yourpopulated bench of two risers sure. So that's pretty scary, there's also acard coming up later in the top ten. That will definitely appreciate ascapebrop. Yes, absolutely any kind of effects that need to be reset arealways going to love more. Switching outs and right now, the only way toswitch out the V pokemon is with switch or withMallowan Lana I'puggling. To think, if there'sanother one, but those are the two that immediately come to mind, certainly themost playable that she'll see in any given archetetype. So it's really greatto have just even more options. So what that said, let's bring it to cardnumber two ily. Take it away. Yeah Card number two, so this Cardi ought to sayalso cynerdizes with a scaterope and that's going to be crickatune V, soCERCATOMV. It has an ability which hearkens back to a huge fan favorite inthe instruct Orangaro, so crickatune will allow you to draw up to threecards in your hand. Unless your cocatoon is in the active position,winking out OA scape rope, you can drop to four, which now youcan't use multiple criccatoones in a turn. So it's not quite as abusable asinstructor rangaroo. That's still such a good effect like being able to helpstamp proof yourself, especially for decks, to have a lot of burnable cards.You know you think of like your mad parties. You think of like your adps, where you just likereally plouing through your deck. This is like a great bench, sitter,something you can promote after a knockout and just draw that extra card,you can escape rope into it with dexk that are playing a skaterope and thenjust retreet out of it I'm a huge fan of this card. I was likewhen I was building the top ten on my personal list before we startedcomparing. I was really debating poing this in number one, because I thinkthis is something that well see a lot of play yeah. It's really interestingthat we have this card as as good as it is, but it does fl to certainly to me-and I mean it sounds like to you- that it is one of those kind of auto-includes in a lot of decks. You know it's similar, if not directly,comparable to something like a crow bath potentially into Denni, although Ithink the DENNA's effect is significantly better but asnomthinglike a Probat, something like an eldagos just to give you that thatextra draw that every deck wants, so certainly a great card and Yeah Y. Ah,I think you actit up well with with your explanation as to why we put it sohigh in our topten yeah. I just, I think, there's just two things that aremaybe not to, but a couple things missing that inchuctorange hadobviously doctor Angro had a really great attack with psychic to deal withkind of those multiprize blocking pokemon like HoopaAcircaton won't really help you there Catinis also a multiprice spoke onitself. So is a little more liability and you can't stand them like you could,with a ranger yeah. I also say like these days. is s likethe one other thing that I think really kept me from Tacirton hiher is, I think,hands are a little more clogged these days than maybe they were in someprevious formats. You know with ultrabal and stuff like that, so it's a little bit harder to likereally get defect off like repeatedly throughout the game. Sure bit, I stillso good. That effect is really great, yeah, sure sure, and it's definitelyone of those cards that you know in the future as well like it's Felny, goingto get better with the rotation of cards like Orcoreo. You know we're going to want thesekinds of things at the lake game where we can draw our handback up and so yeah,absolutely one of those cards that good now, probably even better in the future.Absolutely JW Niccason Man Dud. Let's do it well! This is probably nosurprise to t any of you, but the the Firstrfoos are the cards that are. Youknow, enlenatic of the battlestyle and here at number one. Our favor card fromthis new set is rabbid strike, Pursha food, FEMAX, no rapi, Strik, Ersian,Foo vmax, three hundred thirtyhp fighting tipe pokemon with a galethrust. Attank of this Pokomi move from your bench, the Actti spot. The attackdoes a hundred and twenty more damage Riley. What Card do you? Love and do Ilove, does this remind you of it's kind of eugolisaod man, glise Wie, Budgx,exactly and then it also has a very strong secondary attack. GMAX rapidflow discard all energy from the POGEMON, pretty big drawback, but againyou're attacking for one energy on that first attack. This attack does ahundred d twenty damage to two of your opponents, bench Fokmon, so you'resniping, Youre setting things up, or...

...maybe your opponent has retreatedsomething that had been gail thrusted into earlier and you're, going to knockthat out with a gmax or at least set it up to be knocked it out later with aGMX rapid flow. So I love this card lot of verstility, a lot of differentthings that you can do and it comes in at number one on our list. Yeah I mean, what's left to say thecard is phenomenal. You know I just wish you had Guzma, that's right. Yes, cozmo probably takesthis thing over the over the top for sure. Are there any synergies outsideof maybe the escape rope that you would play or Shifoo with or any cars thatyou look at that are currently informat that you really like as a partner withErshefu Yeah? I mean, I think the key with Urchfu isfinding like a good pivot right like something that w works well with yourUrshe Fu, so immediately. Something that comes to mind is like h. Theamazing rer Jerashi is like a great option to continue to DRAK cards forkatoon in drashe kind of fulfilledthat similar iniche, but Gragi Lazi just tacked your hand up. I would also be interested to see likewhat kind of engines people pull off with Ershi Fou. I could see like a tagcall I e healing kind of engine potentially being successful where youlike. Have some Malalanas and Cynthian Calins to you know, accentuate yourOrshefu, but really, I think the car is sosimple in of itself. You just have to somehow get it tideactive that you can find a lot of differentways to play it, and you saw that with Licepot as well like he saw it playindwith garbageor. He saw it being played as like attack and rainbown or twodecks, and you sopp played obviously a sorark. No, the one thing I wish isthat there is Arolla, but it'sroll is just such a ridiculously broken card,so o or the best. Now this gale thrust attack, if youfulfill the condition of moving the Rabbit striker Sho from the bench tothe active, does a hundred and fifty damage so are there any cards that youlook to pair orshop food with to you know, be able to ensure that you're twoshouting vmaxes yeah? I guess I haven't thought aboutit. Like too much directly. I mean you have obvious contenders like yourvitality bands, to get you to hunded and sixty, which you know hit one sixtytwice and that Willkayo most vmaxes and obviously like you'll, knock out your your aternit is to Ko no matter what yea to be hostest. I guess I haven'tthought about. Like the the different excelerants or pairs to be used withheirship, you do ind depth, I mean o. You have something in mind when you askthat O Kno, I was just thinkng vituality band. Of course you havesomething like Zixzgoand. I think that those are you know some ofthe options that you culd choose. The other thing that I was thinking aboutwhen MOU cal play with like a a slow brow, Aglaran Slowbro, vmat, vd, yeahyeah. Of course that's certainly an option. The other thing that I wasthinking and it kind of brings in not not to bring in another car that wedidn't talk about, but there is also the the Worldpool scroll rapid strikeitem that can go on to this pokeman that does thirty damage to each of youropponents bokmon. So that could be another option to just like. Do that,little softening up and then get them a couple of times and then maybe eventhrowing a snipor two. So just some some options there for you as Rasyou're thinking about how to play this card yeah I mean there's so manyoptions that open up in the rappid strike. You know it's been the theme throughoutthe entire top ten that rapid strake has like a whole tool box available toit. It's really verse tallent. What is options are in Ershe food. Definitelylike fits into that mold as well, Yep and honestly, like I do want to say,even though a single striker should Bo be maxd an making on this list, it'sstill a pretty cool card. You know you get a couple hounddems out and startswinging for one Akos on vmaxes, so I mean there's, there's a lot of coolguards that we didn't mention. The cormenite is something that comes to mymind. You got things like the MIVIQV idoa. How do you like? Nimi Ke? Youknow you got things like Tampo Cocovmax, I'm a personal. I do like Temeoe Aso,there's a lot of things that we certainly left off. These are the topten that we think are going to be the most impactful over their lifetime, andso we hope you enjoyed this breakdown of battle. Styles really excited forthis new set and yeah can't wait to conway to get the cards in our handsand start playing with them. Absolutely I'm excited to see the metashakeup. Ithink this is going to be a significantly larger change, as opposedto vivid voltage yeah. So I'm very excited to see what that looks like and these cars are honestly just reallycool. I really like the the kind of the themes they're goingfor YEP. Absolutely. I think there will bea lot of new things for players to...

...explore and a lot of new Cambos forplayers to choose from and that more choice makes for a better game, and I'mreally happy that battle styles is coming out when it did absolutely thatwe hope you enjoyed. We hope that you check out battle styles. When it comesout, we sure to check out full your games and folgup codes, if you'reinterested in any of that and to buster in chat asking. If we're ever going tochange our name from tag team to the next mechanic, we will be tag teamforever. We will never be the v Union podcast. That would be kind of funny, thoughmaybe an Aro bools they that coudit could be funny we'll see, I don't think it'll bedissape fror fools, because we an won't be out yet, but that's right, at', something I geve y mind again. Weappreciate all your listenership be sure to rate and review if you'relistening on your favorite podcasting platforms and we sure to check us outand all of our social media. You got JW here on twitch at Flex, Daddy Righchiuson twitch, and we got our twitters as well. That's tag team, Pokemon, smouthof riles and Real John Walter. You a are the best. The most loyal awesomeopen my community out there and we will catch you next time is se y.

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