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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 28 · 10 months ago

3-28. The Battle Styled Episode

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back in style... battle style! Come check out a top 10 list of the new cards from the Battle Styles expansion. Fun for the family!.. unless your family is fighting weak.

Yo, what is up, guys? Welcome back to tag team, the POKEMON Trading Card Games Premiere podcasting duo. My name is Riley Hulbert, joined as always by my phenomenal friend MrJW Cree Wall. JW. How's it going today? It's gone pretty well, Riley. How are you? I am doing swell, man, I'mdoing swell. There's a long week, lass week, not going to lie, but you know, I rest and relaxed and I have Friday off,which is kind of cool. That's great. What are you gonna do with YourFridays? I feel like I can't. I mean maybe I have. MaybeI can't remember the last like true rest day that I had, butlike, what are you gonna do? I know that you're a big fanof, you know, selfcare and like treating yourself. So you're going togo somewhere, get some food, or what's your what's your plan for Friday? Yeah, I was planning on on getting some like pancakes from like alocal place and they have these like sweet potato pancakes, which sound weird butthey're really good. Okay, and I was going to make like a largerdinner for myself as well, something I haven't decided what it will be yet, but it'll be good. Yeah, and you know, it's kind ofrefresh take like that extra long weekend recenter my Chakra is all that kind ofstuff. Is that something that you're into now? But you know, philosophically, I'm align it with that right like I'm trying to hear, you know, bring myself back to you like a normal state of be a harmony ofyou will. Yeah, I am more harmonious existence because I'm still like kindof feeling the effects of it. For sure. This weekend wasn't as restfulas I was hoping it would be because my cats were kind of trained towake up pretty early after the last week. So I'm they're starting to wean outof it now, but I'm they're like waking me up very early fora couple days there. Gotcha. Yeah, that's annoying, for sure, itis. It is. What's going on with you? Well, bootcamps going along, charging along. It feels like it's going at a breakthat next speed. Right now we're at week nine, obviously more than halfwaythrough a week nine, and so there's only four weeks left, which isjust crazy to think about. I'm excited for battle styles. I got acouple of products in the mail from the Pokemon a company, so very thankfulfor that. Going to be open to those up on the channel at somepoint in the future. And Yeah, life is good. My wife hasa job interview down and while she's not going anywhere, but it's for jobdown at Texas, and so that's kind of exciting. We've, you know, as you know, we've been looking at houses, so that's like justkind of exciting. You know, all these all these things that could happenin the future are pretty exciting. Yeah, absolutely sorry. My cat was likeeating bruth there and she just wants like wow, something. Somebody iswailing in the background. was just listening to I was just listening to abird is like a ghost bird, or it's called the ghost bird colloquially,and it has this hoot that sounds like a wailing person. Yeah, there'sa lot of creatures that make like bigly humanoid and of screams that you thinkof like the mountain lions, right, and they the screams that they make. And my cat, if she doesn't know where I am, she getsreally anxious, I guess, and first to cry until like she could figureit out. So very cute. Yeah, it is what it is. It'sbut you mentioned battle styles, you mentioned getting that product from Pokemon,and I am excited as well about battle styles. If it feels like we'vebeen hyping a battle styles up for a long time now, so I'm excitedto dive into it and take a look at what's going on there. Solet's just dive right in head first. It's true, JW and I talkedit over. Were some some fighting or is, you know, a littlebit of Brown involved, a lot of dissension, you know, plenty ofmuscles brought to the table and you know, after we settled our differences, we'vecome to a agreement on the top ten cards plus one honorable mention,or battle styles. So we wanted to take the cast today and really runthrough those give you a sneak peek at what we're thinking with battle styles interms of the individual cards and what kind of potential they have. So JWwants to start us off. Well, as with most TCG sets, they'reoften carried by the trainers and supporters, and I think that this set isno different. Usually you'll see these rankings...

...and they'll be a little bit underwhelmingfor some people because they'll say, oh, come on, you guys rated,you know these these items really highly like, come on now. Butyou look back at it and those are the cards that have the most immediateimpact just because they're the most flexible. And so our top ten littered witha bunch of really good items, but also some very interesting pokemon as well. We start off with a card that is a reprint. There's a fewof those reprints in here, just so good that pokemon couldn't help themselves butbring it back, and that is experience share, experience share. A toolgoes on one of your pokemon and if it's on the bench and your activegets knocked out, it's going to take all the energy from the active ontothat pokemon. So a really nice card. It obviously has some very, verybig synergy, in my mind, with attackers that need a lot ofenergy. So immediately I'm thinking something like an amazing rare right where it takesa lot of effort to power it up and then it just gets knocked outand then all that energy leaves. Well, now, if you have an experienceshare, maybe you can start to chain your amazing rares. That's wheremy mind goes. I don't know that it necessarily makes a competitive but there'scertainly other applications for it. I would even think in a deck like welderdecks, you know welder youtube sent to Scorge, those kinds of things thatreally like to have the energy out board throughout the entirety of the game.That might be a nice little addition there. Yeah, I was thinking as welllike dex the use boltons would really like it, you know, evenit turn it a second see it potentially late. Yeah, that's a reallygreat point, Riley. There just seems to be a lot of applications forthe card and the reason that it wasn't ranked maybe higher in the list isjust because we could see it being that kind of sixty first card, right, like there might just be better cards than the experience share in a lotof list. But it is so widely applicable. I mean it could beplayed in pretty much every deck except maybe pour egon the decks where the onlyenergy special under it literally could go in any single deck. And then youalso have kind of the the the problem of well, if a lot ofpeople play experience share, then it probably will see a lot of dangerous drillsor tool scrappers being teched into decks. So you know, there's kind ofcounterbalance too between how good will it be and if it is so good,well we have a pretty simple counter to the card. So I love experiencehere. I think we'll look for it to make a pretty significant impact andthen but, like I said, you have that counterplay between that and thetool scrapper coming in that number ten. Starting the list here is a cardthat I was kind of high on. Riley maybe not so much, butit's bronze are and this is another card that feels like a very feels verysimilar to cards we've seen in the past, something like Hydragon, for when Istarted playing, which could move around dark energy with its dark transability.Well, it's the same kind of idea. You can move around metal energy,but on a stage one, and I think that's a very crucial pointthat needs to be made here. On the Bronzeng then maybe makes a littlebit different from some of the other energy movers that we've seen in the past. Of course, the stage one that I kind of think of. Thatwould come to I think a lot of our listeners minds. That has beena very top tier archetype in both standard and expanded since it was released.Was the Aromantis, now a romantist. Was Really Nice because you could hefeel back when it was you know, in the expanded format you can playwith Max Potion and things like that. So really nice with those big heavyattackers and you can move a bunch of stuff around. You could play withthe special energies, the rainbows and stuff to power up alternate attackers, andI think broad song fits that mold pretty well. We have Aurora, whichcan be utilized by you know those those tech attackers, if you will,and we also have just the best metal pokemon ever printed in the format rightnow that accelerates energy on to itself. So I'm just looking at bronze on. I think this has got to be a winner. Yeah, I thinkbronze on season as while I just wish there was more healing and format.Really, where's that coaching as fair? Yeah, yeah, that's Super Fair. Yeah, the only real healing that we have that's maybe even comparable toa Max potion is the hyperpotion, and that forces you to discard energy andso like it forces you to discarrect, not that you it away, butyou actually have to discard energy in order to heal. We have malone,Laana, but still, you know you're using a supporter to not even fullyheal a pokmon. So yeah, it does feel a little bad. Likeyou mentioned, we are getting that it's a linearm that what it is.My goodness, why did I forget? I like it was on the tipof my time. Anyway, there's one, but it only applies to the evolvedpokemon when you play it as a...

...supporter. So yeah, certainly notmany of the healing cards that we would cheryl, my bad. Okay,that's what I thought it was. RELEASTD Olinea no, I'm was like it'sa girl, and then I was like thinking only Alena, Lena, Ibelieve. Yeah, like pokemon to real work. So a little bit awkwardif you're trying to play with more basic focus builds that center around Zation andthe various techn takers who can play with the Urora. I will say,though, like there is a lot of metal excel on the format and orenergy also in format. So I'm interested to see what avenues. Bronze opensup depth absolutely well in the theme of searching and manipulation. I want itto hit on our next two picks kind of in tandem here. So atnumber nine we have hound doom, the single strike hound doom. So SingleStrike Hound Doom. Honestly, this is a really, really powerful card andI think the only reason that a lot of the single strike cards aren't rankedhigher is just because the single strike archetype isn't all the way there. Thesupport cards for single strike are really, really good. Single Strike Pokemon area little bit lacking, in my opinion. That said, so the hound doom. What it does is once per turn you may attach a single strikeenergy from your deck to one of your single strike Pokemon, and at thecost of having to put two damage counters on that pokemon. So really notan egregious cost for such a powerful effect. And the single strike energy, willtouch on later, is also incredibly powerful. That level acceleration is prettydifficult to find, especially in current format. So I'm doing really offers a lotto your deck. Everything could their JW. Yeah, no, I'mjust looking at I'm trying to remember the card that this is representative of,and I was looking up, but it's kind of like dark electrode. Thatwas the card that comes to mind, but I think, yeah, there'sa better card, I believe from the kind of like magma series. Butyeah, searching the the energy out of the day dark electrode attaches it toitself. The hown doom you can attach it to other places. So Iwas trying to trying to remember exactly what I could like. I feel thereis some kind of cards. This is very similar to, yeah, whereyou like put damage counters and it's not I'm not thinking of place. Ibelieve it's team Magma's clay doll. I wouldn't know, I don't know anythingabout team magna cards something like that. Yeah, regardless, though, Hounddoom is just it's it's held back by the training weights of being for singlestrike. So building off of that we have kind of the rapid strike equivalentof that and really we see the thematic like tones of single and rapid strikeemphasize really well in these pokemon. So artillery, we have his number eight. It performed a similar role as hound doom, being a stage one supportpokemon or the single or rapid strike archetype. But artillery is more around like utilityor an overall like general usefulness. So instead of being exploded a listof like hound doing and throwing energy onto your board silly, let's you consistentlygrab single strike cards out of your deck. So once per turn you can useartillery to grab a single strike card out of your deck and put itinto your hand, a rabbit strike. Sorry, thank you. So generallywhat we're seeing is that rapid strike is more based around like consistency and,you know, maneuvering around your opponent, where a single strike is more aboutbeing explosive and trying to get big oaks, maybe for a cost. And generallywhat I find is that those consistent strategies, as long as they haverespectable output, will tend to be a little bit better. So artillery,we have as a little bit higher and it has more versatility, versatility aswell, so you're not limited just grabbing that rapid strike energy. With artillery, can get things like your your V's and Your v Max's, you canget your stadium cards, you can get your item cards, so there's justso much you can do with that. That's really it's honestly impressive, likethe amount of cards you can just grab her for, you know, HillaryRiley. One could say it has a lot of versatillary. You know,I it's like I almost jumbled my words and said that. So I reallydo think, though. I think if the single strike cards were better,that hound new would be a higher renked car than octillery. Sure, becauseI think it's more powerful, but actilory just has so much more going forit as the the cards that exist in the pool currently go and you kindof see that game as we go through, like any single and rapid straight card. Yeah, I couldn't couldn't agree more. Right now, certainly theedge seems to favor the rapid strike,...

...but as they keep printing more sets, I mean this is not going to be the only set with this mechanic, so as we see more cards, you know, presumably there might bemore of a balance truck between the two types. So great, that's agood overview of those two cards. Coming at number seven is a very interestingtrainer card, again something that we, you know, have kind of seenbefore, but not maybe in this exact flavor. So it's a little bitof a new use for this card and that is the fan of waves.Now fan of waves, or billowing fan, as it's translated here on Poka beachis an item card that is rapid strike return a special energy cards attachedto one of your opponent's Pokemon to the bottom of your opponent's deck. Sovery similar to, you know, things like an hand stammer of the past. And Yeah, I just a very cool card that has a little bitof a different use. I mean there might actually be a reason to useenhance tammer versus billowing fan or fan of waves. Like there's actually a reasonto use one of the two cards. So I think that that's really coolthat it has a similar effect, but it's not exactly the same. Togive of players a little bit more deck building advantage or deck building choice whentrying to decide what they should include. You have any use cases in mindwhere you would rather have fan of waves you had both available to you,Um, it would be like putting, putting, just putting cards that arebad into your opponent's deck. Maybe be you use a billowing fan and thenyou are going to end them right. So now they have an energy andtheir deck that maybe is not an outto winning the game or something like thatwould be that would be a use case for that. Absolutely no sense.And I'd also call out like energy denialso important in this format. You know, people continually will talk about those crushing hammers and special energy is also reallyimportant this format. I'm also yeah, I'm also thinking to with the billowingfan, just having like, let's say it's the light game and you billowingfan and your opponent, you know, and you're going to Marni right,and you can force your opponent to draw into the energy that they you know, that you put back into the bottom of the deck. So now you'reessentially controlling, you know, one of those cards that they draw. Thatcould be another yeah, U s absolutely sure. Yeah, paired with likeanother disruption card, you can kind of like control their hand a little bit, no doubt. Yeah, I mean I'm a fan of the card.I think it'll definitely see play, especially I've noticed a lot recently an opticin people. He's and capture energy as like a consistency engine, while alsogetting an energy attachment. This kind of punishes that, right. So,like if you capture energy your turn it is then you open yourself up tobeing building fanned. Yes, exactly, exactly. That's a really good point. It's it is one of those things that you know it should see significantplay, right. It's just that good. There are a lot of really nicespecial energy you think about the speed lightnings, the capture like you mentioned, you think about the single and rapid strike energies and you think about theheat fire, you think about the coating metal. I mean the list prettymuch goes on and just to have the option to get rid of it ina way that's consistent right. I think people look at crushing hammers being alittle bit unfair because it's not that consistent disruption. And so we haven't.Everyone has used has has this card available to them, and so you canplay around it or not right or you can get punished by it. Absolutely. I see a question the chat that I'd like to get to before weget to turn xt card as a key Se Hawk ass. Do you seeit cutting into hammerslots in most decks? I could see it. Maybe.I think where it'll see the most use is either in addition to or fordecks that can't really afford to play that full crushing hammer suite. You canplay billowing fan to get a leg up on decks that use those special energy. So if you're only. So I guess the point I'm getting at isyou're only using crushing camera to be atp you still need the crushing hammers right. Like billing fan won't get you there versus ATP if you're trying to doit to disrupt other decks in the format, and maybe you're just looking to getlike one or two cards to get that disruption. Building Fan is reallygood for that slot. Ye, great point. Great Point. Let's talkabout our next card. Those and you know, you just referenced it.So a great pair with the billing fan is number six, and we pairedsome cards into this one and that's going to be a single it. Wekind of cheated because we had a lot we wanted to say, and it'sgoing to be the single strike and the rapist strike energy. If I hadto rank them, I would say the single strike and energy and a vacuumis a better card. Yeah, but we don't live in a vacuum,so I would say they rapis strike energy...

...is a better card in practice.Yeah. So let's go through each of them though. So single strike energy. It's basically a strong energy, except it performs the role of being botha fighting in a dark energy. So you see, the single strike pokemonare really congregating as being fighting in dark types, and so this allows youto power up those variety of attackers, again matching kind of like the ErshaFu, having the dark and the water evolution branches. So you have thatlike dual power up option, and it does the twenty more damage, whichis insane. I mean those let me just think about how good strong energywas in its day. Buzz will really, really love that card, I'll tellyou that much. So this is really big for single strike pokemon thatwant to get that extra damage output, because what we're seeing is the singlestrike pokemon really want to get Okas and things like the single strike Orsho Movmaxdon't all the way get there on their own. So having additional modifiers likethat energy will be super important. The rapper strike energy, on the otherhand, it's kind of like the theme goes. It's more about like gettingconsistent, versatile options. So it provides to energy and it's either a fightingenergy or water energy. So Yep, allows you to power up a varietyof tackers and long as you power them up quickly, and we'll see thisbe really important with some of our later cars, particularly the Ershu v Maxfor the rap strike archetype. But really it's just such a strong card.I mean, you seen that will colorless throughout the ages be an incredibly powerfulcard. This one is searchable with artillery, so you can very reliably get outof your deck and it powers things up pretty much right away. Sojust slam this on a wrap strike pokemon and usually they're pretty much ready togo after that. Maybe like one more attachment necessary from there. So,honestly, both these energy cards are really impressive. It's hard to say ina vacuum which one is actually better than the other. You could definitely makearguments either way, and that's kind of we wanted. We wanted to lumpthem together because they feel very similar roles for their archetypes and they're both justreally, really good. Yeah, rather, I think you hit the nail onthe head. It's it's really cool. We've seen pretty much with with mostof these cards that Pokemon is kind of bringing back old concepts but ina new way, and that's exactly what they've done here. I like theversatility of the rapid strike being able to power up, like you said,a lot of different pokemon very quickly, but then the damage output is justa classic effect that is just really good to have. It's just always niceand it's so fun. It's so fun to stack them up and it's stacks, you know. So if you're getting, for of those bad boys down on, you know, a Ershvu VMAS, like you're hitting for so much,I know, it just gets ridiculous. You slam the supporter as well,like there's nothing more satisfying than like having some crazy damage Combo. Yeah, that's right, absolutely. So I'm really looking forward to these couple ofcards. But let's take a little bit of break here, Riley. Iknow we want to get into the card of the day and I also wantedto talk about some of the cards that didn't make our list that think maybehave a shot at and being played, or at least are on our radaras on the cusp of great us, yeah or yeah, being some ofthe more fun cards yeah, which is also greatness in of itself. Iwould argue. That's true. That's true. So for yeah. So I knowyou all are waiting an eager inticipation for the top five, but Iwanted to take a second and do a card of the day. And soin the spirit of our battle styles styled cast, I want to choose abattle styles car and the choice for me was obvious and that was and pollyon v. So in pulling on V when it was first revealed, itwas one of the most like insane kind of reveal moments ever for me,because they've finally come up with the term, like the rule term, to describethese special POKEMON, that being rule box pokemon. So for the unaware, and pulling on V when it's in the active position, it blocks abilitieson any rule box pokemon. So that includes your gx has, that includesyour V's, Your v Max has, includes prism stars, it includes breaks, anything that has that little rule box on it. And so that's justso cool because we, I feel like I've been saying forever, we needsome way to categorize these pokemon generically without having to, you know, reachback all the way to x has, to future pre of our cards,and this is exactly the way to do that. So having the term itselfwas really cool, but then and pulling on takes it to the next levelbecause it's secret rare art is so good. It's such a cool looking card.You don't want to talk about it?...

I've seen it. Talk to usa little bit about it. Yeah, so I'm pulling on, is alsoa rapid strike card and he has a secret art where he's just joinedin by all of his rapid strike buddies. So you got actillary, you gotme and show, I think it is, with them and it's justa good old time they're having. It's just such a beautiful card. Ilove. I Love Them. POKEMON cards like incorporate other pokmon in a nontag team kind of way, like they're just part of the art and partof the story of the card, and I feel like the inapoleon sere arekind of like ties together the story, like all these like Kung Fu warriorrapid strike pokemon like training it together and getting ready for their next situation.Sure, so, it's just I love the fact they introduced rule box,I love the card, I love the arts on it, and pulling onis a fan favorite, you know, evolving from Piploup, who's one ofthe most popular starters, I'm pretty sure. So just a knocked out of thepark. I like it. That's great, that's that's really cool.Yeah, I can't wait to see where pokemon takes this rule box idea was, again something that I was extremely excited about as well when they first revealedit, and it opens up just a wide world of possibilities and it justwas so awkward to have to say, Oh, it, you know,includes gx x, you know, etc. Etc. You know the kitchen sink, you know. It just made it so that we could understand whatthey meant, like these special cards, right, because that's all they were. Right that the two prize Pokemon, the three prize Pokemon, and nowjust says rule box and makes everything nice and clean. So I love thatabsolutely. So, JW, what are your what are some of your standoutcars? What are some of the fun cards that you're looking at? Well, there's a number of them. I think that there's there's one in particularthat stands out to me as being potentially better and expanded than in standard justconsidering the card pool, and that is the or beetle, the or beetlefrom this value you've been on. That's or beetle grind to. I know, I know I brought it up before, but just being able to evo control, you can you can attach, you know energy and then and pullup pokemon out of your deck. Stage two POKEMON for every energy that youhave attached. So really interesting. I mean that is a car that we'veseen in the expanded format in the form of createdilly. But the only realway to get out creat daily was to evolve it through Ditto, as therare of a fossil mechanic isn't really that good and as kind of spotty withthe different fossils, and expanded so or beetle, you can actually just getit out through normal evolution rules and still has that evil control attack. Costsnot a colored energy, costs just a colorless energy, and that also opensit up to being powered up with the you know, t xcel twin doublecolorless, like many other options there as well in terms of powering it up, and you can get, you know, multiple pokemon out with those multi energyso I'm excited for it. That's always really fun to see what kindof Combos people can think of with three or four stage twos into play.They're all different. Yeah, exactly, exactly. And so I mean stagetwos are some of the most fun Pokemon and it's always nice when you seethe game developers, maybe maybe going in a different round with the entirety ofthe game, but at least opening up the possibility of some kind of alternateway to play. And that is, you know, now it's pretty basicand stage one heavy, but maybe there's something that comes along that. Maybethere's some stage two that makes or beetle and dust. Stage two is Bible, the Chosen One. That's right, I like it. I like it. Yeah, what else jumps out of here? Oh, what else jumpsout of me? Oh, I mean, I think I can talk about onethat jumps out at me. I want to talk more one card thatI think was pretty interesting, that was actually suggested to me by my goodfriend Blake, was the FLAPP will and I said, Oh, flap will, the the vmax. You know, it's probably not going to be verygood. You know, it only does damage based on how much HPA hasleft. He's like no, no, no, the V. So FLAPPwill V is a card that, you know, attack for a grass andit causes your opponent to need two more energy in order to attack on theirnext turn. And I was just thinking about how flickable this might be tosome kind of stall deck, like how much they would want a card likethis to not necessarily do the damage but to have that effect that the attack, so flap will V is something that I'm certainly looking at with that soursalival, Sour Saliba attack, as being something that immediately will be useful toany kind of stall deck in our current...

...format. Absolutely love to see that. You know, one card that I actually think is really interesting is theis the rain dance chairum. You know, having the rain dance on a stageone is obviously good. It's just and I like how it's restricted onrule boxes because I like that they're using the rule outside of poleonus. Itmeans that they're they're setting the precedent that you can put this on other cards. Yes, so the chair Um. I don't know if it'll be immediatelyuseful because I don't think there's like a lot to do with it yet.And like you have the option of using the super growth on a real boom. It just accelerating graphs that way. But the fact that they're using therule again have a cool card to do it, I just I like that. I like that they're trying. Yeah, that's great, that's great. chairmof course you can power it up. I think what they were trying togo for in this set with the with the chairum, is that Booloo, the Tampa Booloo, where you discard and energy to do extra damage.So they were clearly kind of thinking with those two in mind. I thinktry to give, you know, an introductory deck to two players. Sovery cool. They're speaking of grass pokemon. We've kind of been on a kick. Durant comes back. Yeah, a lot of reprints and we're gettingmaybe the funniest kind of and love of all to go with it. Andlove of all to go with it. You know, we get one ofthe funnest archetypes in the history of the game back in Durant. I don'tthink that there's a single person that would ever say that they didn't like durantunless they played in the format that durant will was a factor. So durantcoming back has that devour. I don't think anyone would say they don't likedurant unless they played with her against Dr Basically, that's what I'm saying.Yeah, it was a horrible card to play against for sure. Back inthe day you just felt so helpless and the ease with which they could doit because back when I played, back when durant was a thing, theyhad a lot more tools available. One of the big ones was revived.So just get that pokemon right from the discard piled back to the bench likeyou wouldn't have to shuffle it into the deck and then try to find itagain. Now you just played revived, you gotta right back onto the benchand you were, you know, discarding for over and over and there werealso ways to search the prizes, switch out your prize cards with the Rodom. So you didn't even have to worry that much. I mean you didhave to worry, but you didn't have worried that much about what you prizedand and it was just yeah, that was a that was a dangerous,dangerous archetype back in the day. I think we look at it right now, you don't quite have the tools that it used to have, so itgets neutered a little bit by that reusability of Pokemon. Like I talked about, having to shuffle it into your deck and then find it again can bea little bit of a strain, especially when you have to do it everysingle term. Aren't and there's just not that great of you know you haveto find the twin energies every single term. So the devour attack on the originalDurant, you could do it for one metal and now you can onlydo it with well, you could attach twice, but obviously the name ofthe game of speed when you're trying to mil the opponent out. So findingthose twin energies is going to be a real big hurdle from the deck.Yeah, for sure, but it's cool to see it at the very least. Absolutely couldn't agree more, and I also want to give a shout outto to phoebe. I don't think it's like a phenomenal card, but it'sone of those cards that I feel like people will throw into their decks,giving those v Max Pokemon the ability to pierce through any effects. You've seenthis kind of effect be used with stuff like ultra forest Cartan Voy was usedwith the I don't know exactly what to call it, but like the theGuzz Lord Nagan Adel is Maygias Deck, where you just a sellery to beastrings and then you had ultra forest carton Voy to get through through the Keldeos. This kind of like a similar idea where if you play like a coupleCynthia and kitly, and you could use this to pierce through like siduise oreven like Zambi sent to. Yeah, that's a really great point and Ilove that from the card design perspective of just having these cards that aren't necessarilythe most useful, like they probably won't be played and in high counts atany point of their lifetime, but at least they exist, at least there'sthat option for people to play it in their deck, that they at leasthave the choice to do it, and I think that's that's a great thing. So why don't we head back into the top ten? So we areon number five's. They're only five cards left in our top ten. Numberfive's Pokemon, debt is, is one we already have, one that evolvesfrom a pokemon that we already have and...

...makes it way, way better,way more versatile. That is victin ev Max, so vic tiniv Max.I was telling Riley before the cast. I was like, Hey, man, we got to get this card on the top ten because this thing isjust destroying over in Taiwan. Now they have a different system there there therecard pools a little bit different than ours, but it's still doing particularly well overthere and I think that you look at the Vmax and you look atthe attacks and it makes a little bit more sense. So Vic t TVMax, three hundred ten HP spreading flames. Attack exactly the same as the victev the basic but it costs a colorless instead of a fire attached upto three fires. It's trying plans already. Cost of Carlist. Or is it? I thought it was colorless cost. But you can only celery fire already. Oh Oh, okay, perhaps it's exactly the same thing. Imisspoke. But accelerate three energy, three fire energy, from your discard pileto your pokemon in any way you like and then it has a victory Max. Attack under damage, little underwhelming. But if your opponent's active as aPokemon v then this attack those hundred twenty more damage. So if we lookat this card in the context of current format, it seems good, butmaybe not overwhelmingly good, just because we have a lot of gx attackers still. You know, you think about ATP, you think about Pika Chew and ZachCrom there's still plenty of Gx pokemon out there, and so that victoryMax is going to be super underwhelming against those. But you also think abouthow many v Pokemon there on, how many v Max Pokemon there are,and this thing is one shotting the likes of Zaption. It's one shotting alot of the Basic v Pokemon, so things like colossal and it turn itis and just generally seems like it could put a lot of pressure on veryearly and in doing so can really out trade with these big V v Maxdecks. Yeah, and I think what really sold me on this is thefact that it evolves from a really good V so that victin ev, withthe same spreading flames attack. As well as that. I forget the nameof the attack, for man, my brain is family me today. Butjust thirty times the amount of energy attached to both Pokemon, which that canreally add up. So whereas the victin ev Max would only hit a peakrom for a hundred pretty much no matter what, the victin ev on theother hand, which still has like a decent chunk of HP, has onehundred and ninety, which for Peka Ram can sometimes they tough to get over. Yep, you know, you're still hitting for one hundred and fifty atthe minimum against the peak are on there with five energy across both pokemon.Yeah, like you said there, that that spreading flames attack. Very goodon the victinv colorless is correct there. But the energy burst energy verse,there's The thirty times. Right, you're doing thirty times for each energy.So if you're not maybe swinging for big damage with the Vic Tin Ev Max, maybe there's the route that you go with the VIC tinv. Yeah,I'm like BETINV can flowers on Zent has and yeah, exactly, and maybeit's even better than going into the tin ev Max. Another thing that youcould possibly do with a lot of these V maxes that I really like howthey've kind of created these Pokemon, is just like they have that we havea memory castle available to us. So maybe there's a way with the VICTINV MAC archetype to include one, maybe two of the memory capsule and thenall of a sudden you can go ahead and energy burst, you know,maybe late game, right, you're building up a giant victin ev Max totry to one shot things with energy burst. So just something to consider. Anotherlittle flavor that you could add to this step. got a memory capsuleyour victinv Max, so you can use spreading flames from your victin ev Ohthat would be a pretty epic move game a moment, for sure. Ithink. One of the things that I want to call out just before wewrap up with victin ev Max is. So the question that comes up iswhy would you play this over a sent to scorch right the other like bigfire deck? I think the reason that you could argue for victinv Max oversent to Scorch is the low attack costs and low maintenance of the deck.So between spreading flames and the to energy attack costs, you don't need tohit a welder within your first two turns to be doing that respectable damage.You know, assuming your energy doesn't get hammered, you can just attach,attach, evolve and you're already doing your damage up to two hundred and twentywithout having to do any other additional maintenance. So that lets you play like ahigher account of research and stuff. Yeah, exactly. It may beopens the door for, you know, send a scorch does try to playsome disruption cards. You know is some send of scorches will play, youknow, up to to reset stamp. Some send of scorches will play theQuattina, but those always feel like like...

...they could be cut at any moment, you know, those always feel like kind of the on the fringe ofnecessary cards. But with victin ev Max like you said, having the EnergyExcel on the pokemon is really nice. Cuts out the need for something likeVolcanyon, or at least lessons the need for something like Vulcanyon, and thengives you the option to not have to rely on welder, thereby opening thoseslots to be used for many different things. You could go more of a disruptionfocus. Crushing Hammer comes to mind. You could go more of just straightconsistency play for Victini, for the v Max X, you know,for research and just going like that. I mean, there's a lot ofdifferent ways that you could potentially play this archetype and that's because you're not relianton the welder strategy. Animates rotation proof, which is awesome. That is awesome. So let's go into our next card, though I feel like wekeep harping on Victini. If you let us have the opportunity to Sarah.Number four on our list is another reprint, and that is going to be levelball. So this is a card a lot of people are big fansof myself included. Let's use grab or free any ninety HP or a lesspokemon, which is such a good effect, especially for evolving decks or like littleattacking basic kind of deck soils thinks like spirit womb. Really enjoy levelball. It's just such a good card. It's such a well designed card,in my opinion, so it's really good to see it come back.I think we've been seeing some of these like more basic, evolved up kindof decks struggle because they don't have access to like a quick evolution mechanism andor like a quick way to get their basics on the board. Is justlike a huge part of it. Quick Ball is great. That's a reallygood card, but that's only one, like one search card, where usuallythese these decks will run quite a few. So being able to pluck your basicsout of your deck is so awesome. Free search is something that these setup decks have needed for a long time. They have tried to getaround it with capture energy, but it's just not the same. You know, there are a lot of times where it makes more sense to have alevel but there are there are sometimes where it makes more sense to have acapture energy. But just having more options makes these decks more viable. Now, is that to say that now that level balls on the scene, likeall of these set up decks and all of these, you know, kindof littler decks, are you know, going to see, you know,Tier One be Tier One threats? No, that's definitely not saying that, butjust having that option is a step in the right direction. I cantell you, though, my my Charsar deck is ready to use level ballto grab those chary manners, to grab those gratis. It's time to go. Let's do it, man, let's do it. Let's step in toour next card, though. Did W also a reprint? Yes, also, I mean I feel like that's the theme right. It seems like theyare bringing a lot of these cards back to the V format, The vBlock as it were, and that's a good thing. I think pokemon knowswhat they're doing in the sense that they have these cards that have been goodfor a long time, they've seen play over the entirety of their lifetime andthey're just wholesome, solid cards that aren't two broken one way or the other. So that next card, number three on our list is a scape rope. Now this Ray Card in the what team up format before rotation, wherewe could use it with Geraci and, you know, use that as anotherkind of out to moving the draction. Now, of course we have scoopup net, but I think escape rope is really nice as it fulfills thatkind of pseudo gust effect while also providing a switch effect, and that's somethingthat I think a lot of decks right now actually want. I look ata deck like ATP as maybe wanting over the air balloon those escape ropes.Not only can it get something out of a paralysis lock that is so commonagainst the deck like Peak Rom, but it can push your opponents active pokemon, which is usually an attacker, to the bench and maybe bring up amore favorable thing to swing into. So I really like a scape rope alot. I think it for a number of decks, probably takes over theslots that that air balloons occupy currently and may even cut into the switch countsthat people are playing. Yeah, I think decks that plays ash and especiallyare really going to like escape rope, mostly because there's not too many pokemonthat really want to take a hit from his Ashen and usually, if you'replaying at the Zashi and you'll tell, you'll throw the Pokemon who can takethe hit active and the ones you can't take a hit will all of youon the bench, populating your bench, and this allows them to draw withprofessor's research while still getting one of th those little bench suckers up into theactive position. I mean, you think...

...about Pe Hurram especially, like youknow, usually you'll have like one tanky boy in the active and you knowyour populated bench of two prisers. Sure, so that's pretty scary. There's alsoa card coming up later in the top ten that will definitely appreciate escaperoute. Yes, absolutely, any kind of effects that need to be reset. Are always going to love more switching outs, and right now the onlyway to switch out the V pokemon is with switch or with Maluen Lana.I'm I'm struggling to think if there's another one, but those are the twothat immediately come to mind. Certainly the most playable that you'll see in anygiven archids type. So it's really great to have just even more options.So with that said, let's bring it to card number two. Riley,take it away. Yeah, Card number two. So this card, Iwut to say also Cyder guys has with escape rope and that's going to bea Cricketun v so curcatum V. It has an ability which Harkens back toa huge fan favorite in the instructive or Wrang Guru. So cricketune will allowyou to draw up to three cards in your hand, unless your Contun isin the active position. Winking out of escape rope, you can drop tofour, which now you can't use multiple cricketuns in a turn, so it'snot quite as abusable as instructor angaroo. That's still such a good effect,like being able to help stamp proof yourself, especially for decks, to have alot of burnable cards. You know, you think of like your mad parties, you think of like your ATP's where you're just like really plowing throughyour deck. This is like a great bench sitter, something you can promoteafter a knockout and just draw that extra card. You can escape rope intoit with decks that are playing escape rope and then just retreat out of it. I'm a huge fan of this card. I was like when I was buildingthe top ten on my personal list, before we started comparing I was reallydebating putting this at number one because I think this is something that willsee a lot of play. Yeah, it's really interesting that we have thiscard as as good as it is, but it does feel to certainly tome, and I mean it sounds like to you, that it is oneof those kind of auto includes in a lot of decks. You know,it's similar, if not directly comparable, to something like a crow bath,potentially at the Denny, although I think the den's effect is significantly better,but something like a Probat, something like an elder GOSSP just to give youthat that extra draw that every deck wants. So certainly a great card and yeah, I think you lacked it up well with with your explanation as towhy we put it so high in our top ten. Yeah, I justI think there's just two things that are maybe not too but a couple thingsmissing that in chucked her anger had obviously ductor angry had a really great attackwith psychic to deal with. Kind of those multi prize blocking Pokemon like HoopaCrickotoon won't really help you there. Couldine is also multi prize pokemon itself.So it's a little more liability and you can't spam them like you could withher anger. Yeah, I would also say like these days is like theone other thing that I think really kept me from what Krikatoon higher is Ithink hands are a little more clogged these days then maybe they were in someprevious formats, you know, with ultra ball and stuff like that. Soa little bit harder to like really get the fect off like repeatedly throughout thegame. Sure, but I still so good. That effect is really great. Yeah, sure, and it's definitely one of those cards that you knowin the future as well, like it's stilling going to get better with therotation of cards like or Choreo. Yep, you know, you were going towant these kinds of things at the lake game where we can draw ourhand back up, and so yeah, absolutely, one of those cards thatgood now, probably even better in the future. Absolutely, JW. Takea song man, dude, let's do it. Well, this is probablyno surprise to to any of you, but the the Persha whoo's are thecards that are, you know, emblematic of the battle style. And hereat number one, our favorite card from this new set is rapid strike ErshafuVmax, N rappids Drake Erschafo vmax, three hundred thirty HP fighting type pokemonwith a Gael thrust attack. If this pokemon moved from your bench, theact the spot, the attack does a hundred twenty more damage. Riley,what card do you love and do I love? Does this remind you ofthat's kind of eglisivive man glass. Yeah, actually. And then it also hasa very strong secondary attack. GMAX rapid flow. Discard all energy fromthis pokemon. Pretty big drawback. But again you're attacking for one energy onthat first attack. This attack does a hundred and twenty damage to two ofyour opponent's bench pokemon. So you're sniping, you're setting things up. Or maybeyour opponent has retreated something that had...

...been gail thrusted into earlier and you'regoing to knock that out with a gmax, or at least set it up tobe knocked it out later with a gmax rapid flow. So I lovethis card. A lot of versatility, a lot of different things that youcan do, and it comes in at number one on our list. Yeah, I mean, what's left to say? The card is phenomenal. You know, I just wish you had Goosema. That's right. Yes, Kusma probablytakes this thing over the over the top for sure. Are there anysynergies outside of maybe the escape rope that you would play or Shafu with,or any cars that you look at that are currently in format that you reallylike as a partner with Ershiafoo? Yeah, I mean I think the key witharch foo is finding like a good pivot right, like something that youknow works well with your er she fu. So immediately something that comes to mindis like the amazing Ray Gerashi is like a great option to continue todraw cards her coatoon and dract. You kind of fulfill that similar niche.But GIRAGI lawsy, to stack your hand up. I would also be interestedto see like what kind of engines people pull off with Ershi Foo. Icould see like a tag call, like healing kind of engine potentially being successfulwhere you like have some mal a lanas and Cynthia and Caitlyn's so you know, accentuate your Ershifu. But really I think the card is so simple inof itself. You just have to somehow get it to the active that youcan find a lot of different ways to play it, and you saw thatwith Gli spot as well, like he saw played with garboard, or yousaw it being played as like a tack and Rainbow Energy Decks, and yousaw plate, obviously, was arc the the one thing I wish is thatthere is a so Rolla, but it's role is just such a ridiculously brokencards. So it's fun for the best. Now this gail for us to tack. If you fulfill the condition of moving the Rabbit Strikers, Foo fromthe bench to the active does a hundred and fifty damage. So are thereany cards that you look to pair or Shafu with to, you know,be able to ensure that you're too shouting v Max has? Yeah, Iguess I haven't thought about it like too much directly. I mean you haveobvious contenders, like your vitality bands to get you to one hundred and sixty, which you hit one hundred and sixty twice, and that will Koh Mostv Max is and obviously, like you'll knock out your your eternity is toKo no matter what. Yeah, to be honest, I guess I haven'tthought about like the different accelerants or pairs to be used with theirs, ifyou too, and Dapth, I mean, do you have something in mine whenyou ask that? Oh No, I was just thinking vitality band.Of course you have something like Zigzago, and I'd think that those are someof the options that you could choose. The other thing that I was thinkingabout with me, you can play with like a slow brow, like Larian, slow Brov MATV. Yeah, yeah, of course that's certainly an option.The other thing that I was thinking in it and it kind of bringsin, not to not to bring in another card that we didn't talk about, but there is also the the whirlpool scroll rapid strike item that could goon to this pokemon that does thirty damage to each of your opponent's Pokemon.So that could be another option to just like do that little softening up andthen hit up a couple times and then maybe even throwing a sniper two.So just some some options there for you as you're as you're thinking about howto play this card. Yeah, I mean there's so many options that openup. And the rapid strike, you know, it's been the theme throughoutthe entire top ten, that rapid strake has like a whole toolbox available toit. It's really versatile and what its options are in her she who definitelylike fits into that mold as well. Yep, and honestly, like Ido want to say even though a single striker should mov Max didn't make iton this list, it's still pretty cool card. You know, you geta couple Hound dumes out and start swinging for one hit kaos On v Maxhas. So I mean there's there's a lot of cool cards that we didn'tmention. The corvinite is something that comes to my mind. You got thingslike the Mimic v I do I do you like Mimick v? You know? You got things like Tapoo, Coco v Max. I'm a personal Ido like type of movie macrounos. So there's a lot of things that wecertainly left off. These are the top ten that we think are going tobe the most impactful over their lifetime, and so we hope you enjoyed thisbreakdown of battle styles. Really excited for this new set and yeah, can'twait to cant wait to get the cards in our hands and start playing withthem. Absolutely I'm excited to see the Meta shake up. I think thisis going to be a significantly a larger change as opposed to vivid voltage.So very excited to see what that looks like. And these cards are honestlyjust really cool. I really like the the kind of the themes are goingfor. Yep, absolutely, I think there will be a lot of newthings for players to explore and a lot...

...of new commos for players to choosefrom, and that more choice makes for a better game and I'm really happythe battle styles is coming out when it did. Absolutely that we hope youenjoyed. We hope that you check out battle styles when it comes out.We sure to check out full your games and full grip codes if you're interestedin any of that. And to buster in chat asking if we ever goingto change our name from tag team to the next mechanic, we will betag team forever. We will never be the v Union podcast. That wouldbe kind of funny, though. Maybe in April fools they that could thatcould be funny. We'll see. I don't think it'll be this April foolsbecause you and don't be out yet, but that's right, something I givein mind. Again, we appreciate all your listenership be sure to rate andreview if you're listening on your favorite podcasting platforms, and be sure to checkus out and all of our social media. You got JW here on twitch atFlex, daddy righteous on twitch and we got our twitters as well.That's tag team Pokemons, mouths of riles and real John Walter. You arethe best, the most loyal, awesome pokemon community out there and we willcatch you next time these see.

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