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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 3, Episode 6 · 1 year ago

3-5. The Brothers Chu

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are ready to crack down on the Full Grip Online Series and the Players Cup II. Whats the low down? Whats up? Who are the Pichu Bros and what do they stand for?

What is up, everybody welcome back totag tea N, the POK Montrading Card Games, premier podcasting duo. My nameis Raly Holbert joint, as always by my good good friend, Ju cre wall. W has itgo today, rightly it's going okay. How are you it's going way better than Ookay man, I'm on cloud nine over here? Oh really, I mean, I feel, like yousound happier other days really you're yeah you're Kindo, like relling meabout my mental stator, noo cause you so like you sounded not not that happy.That's why I was asking you do I do I still sound UNAP, I mean it was a longday. I was working until until seven, which was an hour and a half ago. Okay,okay, yeah. I I don't know for me too. It's been a long day, but I think it'smostly been due to the fact that you know in the Midwest it's starting toget real dark really early, so itw's like seven o'clock yeah, and it wasSudark at that point, and then I felt like, like the last two and ahalf hours. I was in this kind of I don't know dream like state. I feellike a Fony d yeah. I just don't even know like what, where I am what day theweek, it is what time it is and all because the weather is changing yeah Imean I I would say in generaliing like a little down lately, I don't know if,like today, is abnormally, so gestheesal presson certainly are like areal thing. Man, I as the daylight hours deacrease. It just feels likeyour style's getting cramped on. You know, Yep got it. So what makes you on cloud?Nine, nothing! Really! I was just. I was kind o saying it. You know tin to Os tevive a little bit. Okay, fair enough. I mean there's a lot to be excitedabout. Oh for sure, for sure I mean I I'm kind of of the belief Um- and this is like mental health.Outstanding Bet like that. Your attitude like informs like your realityright so Yoa. If you make something good, thenit'll be okay. At least right so always look on the bright side of life, butthere is more than plenty going on in the world we're fresh into players. Cup Too, wegave a lot of street cred o last Don t ow street, but we gave a lot of Lovservice toe last week. So wel definitely talk about that and we'refresh off of the fograp online series event: numbere two soanother successfulevent in the books super exciting to see that, so I think we can combinethose two things and get a really interesting take on how the form hasdeveloping and what kind of things you can do moving fort. So absolutely,let's take it from the top with the Foga bonline series. So yesterday wasthe second event in the fullgrap online series and we saw actually a prettysubstantial shift and how the Meta ended up shaking out at the end of theday. It was really interesting to see. Actually I thought it was reallyfascinating and so Andebho took it home with the lecariomo metal, deck verycool had an awesome game play there in the last round. If you saw that beating Daniel Tovilla in last roundwith his m psychic, mute to very malimarmou, to ask about relying now onthe Rotom from cosmic clipse, I think thataccelerates two secon anrom, the discardement attack Yeso, exactly you having the overhead view of how allthis was shaking out over the event. What was the? What was the cause of theship like what happened between events that all of a sudden made these decksso good was that they were undiscovered before or this underplaye or was thestyle of the decks being played more in their favor yeah? Well, you still sawADPZ and alternitives b very well represented, but the real confusingnewcomer was the Luke Metals Ashion,...

...which I mean has been seeing some somesuccess recently. But it was like last week where it's really started to pickup steam, not just in the fullgrip online series, but also in many othertournaments that are being hosted online and there was one turnament. Ibelieve it was a hagster tournament where there werelike six Lucario mill metals in the top thirty two, and that is just ridiculousfor a deck that before that had some finishes certainly was in theconversation, but didn't have quite the representation, and so lists arebecoming a little bit better. People are discovering that the deck has avery favorable alternative match up in a pretty solid Adpz Natthrup, just kindof, depending on certain texts in both of those decks but having favorable,matchops or or at least winnable matchops against those two, while alsobeing able to control a lot of the rest of the decks in the format. MagLucariol melmental a really popular choice. I think also players areplaying licario mill metal because it can accommodate crushing hammer if theyopgt to go for that route. Andrew didn't play crushing in hammer in hislist, which is you know, important a note, but there are some Lecariomomenols to play, crushing humor and then Um. It's also good, for you know just blockinggenerally the M, the VMACISO. You give yourself a shot against Cento scorceand drag apolt, and things like that and also well I've like almost lost mytrain of thought twice on this, but also you're, not running theseliability pokemon for the EDP sure to just eat up on the bench, which I thinkis another a really big benefit to this deck. It feels like there are a lot ofways for you to I'l play o upon it, like you're, just giving yourself a lotof time via the metaw goggles and the full metal wallgx you're, givingyourself a lot of time to try to position yourself to win the game so ofall the decks that are being played right now. This is the least lineer inits game play and that lends itself to having more decisions in a game, andyou know more ways to play. OPONENT Yeah I've always said time and timeagain that the the longer game goes on. The more opportunities here are fordecisions to be made, the more likely it is that the better player will win,and I think lucaromemeal definitely feeds into that. To a certain extent,you mentioned not having a liability, POK hemon. I would argue, though thereis also the the flipside of that, where you don't have immediate access tocertain tools, VI, pokamon search and that's something that I've alwaysdisliked about Lucario Mametal, but it it does come with the big fro, though,where you know now, all of a sudden you get. You know, mawilegxtern one, theINFAMIU smallilgx, you don't feel as crappy about it.There' Ni are like genuine mowhile situations like if they pluck aAsashian that you can't metal goggles like that, could actually flip a gamefor sure, but there's so you have so much more control over how how many ofthose guys are in your hand, you know when you're talking about likeS, Eigty, p Mir or something you could easily lose the game to an want off amilewhile yeah, an and right and not even like inthe opponent. It doesn't even blink an eye 'cause, that's like actually justtheir strategies to try to get you into a hand that has that you know has aDedeni in it and then they win because all because they just brought it out ofyour hand on the first turn, and so you don't have that liability with Lecariomail metal. Of course, you can always just still get run off the board by adP. it's not like a fail safe by any means, and I don't think the matchup islike extremely one sided for either deck. I would consider it about offifty fifty just kind of depending on how fast each deck can get set up, butit certainly a it's, certainly a deck that players have started to take moreseriously, and you know it's definitely...

...been showing and the results it's got.Obviously, this wind, it's done well at a number of other online tournamentsand you K ow. Certainly if you haven't tried the stick, it's it's a deck thatI personally like for the playerscoup like. I played it a little bit myselffor the Players Cup. I got a nice win in my first tournament with the LecarioMail Medal, decka beating an ADP with the help of Galarian stunfisk there. Itis attacking into an ATP for the wind, and I played it a few other times andand got some decent finishes, but it would certainly be a deck that I wouldbe comfortable taking to a tournament and playing in the players Copyeah forsure so awesome deck, I'm sure all the folks who have been pigting afterThecarl n metals Ashian ar feeling really good right. Now, there's always been that crowd right.The crowd, I always thought Thas, Lucaroa TL, was the better way tosaustion sure sure am oily for sures I mean there's. Definitely some there'sdefinitely some Merrit to that and again the numbers right now. They aremagic numbers right now of you know two twenty two sixty right, which are bothkind of numbers that thes Aushian and thelucario mental have. But then you play the tool you play the the G, you usethe GX attack and all of a sudden, you were able to kind of get out of the wayof the opposing ad P astions. And so it's just it's an interesting dact thatkind of plays with the numbers in an unique way. We also saw the Psychen meto show up ges, so we had four psychic musos outside of the big. You knowthree, there, eighty P eternitis and then lucarium mel metal. We had fourMutus as for Psychic Mutus, as the number four play deck in the full groupseries, which is very interesting. I got to accommentate a little bit overDanny a couple of games and the first game that I commentated over him. Hewas able to get a donk with the Gangaren mimicue and then the secondtime I commentated. He was one trainer away from getting the Donk on aZamazenta, so certainly that card in and of itself putting in a lot of workand and really like- I, I don't want to say giving the deck viability by itself,but it's like a really strong weapon in those opening turns, particularlyagainst aution decks, which tend to you know, start one or two Pokimon n an inthe turn. With a really big hand, you can take pretty cheap knockouts therereally yeah, I mean I that that definitely has shon up in waves. I meanit was a e Ersega really leading the charge there. Do you think, there's anyother tools that really set it apart in terms of the Medigane I mean obviouslynight watch and horror, house and poter. Guys are areally strong combination of tax? U, but it didn't really show up for awhile. Now is it just the fact that people were passing over e the conceptor is there any sort of shift? That's led to that Um I mean, I think, when you look at itlike always having a reces, stamper, Marni and then shuffling two cards backin like the hand, control is not something that we've seen in thestandard format in I mean absolutely hearkens to the expanded form at wherewe have traven in Dusknor. That is, you know the teran deck and expanded. Sojust that hand control not being something that you see too often instandard. Just that's probably the best way to do it at this point in time,since we don't have a lot of the control options of the last format,Trevin Dusmorken kind of take center stage as being that m. That card thatcan disrupt the opponent in a very big way. Yeah for sure I mean Marny plusTrevna Desnar is definitely a potent combination. The one thing I always hate about thatkind of strategy, and I don't think this tack is like inherently reliant onyour ponee dead, drawing off of like a Marny Uw, a Martin trepment does NarCuambo. I think, but it is still so...

...frustrating when you do that to themand they have like a research plus energy ti witch research or whateverthey need t that just feels so awful. It doesn't matter. If it's like gamedeciding or not it just tilps me yeah yeah. Definitely definitely, and it'slike it's going to happen and like you're, putting yourself in thatposition to you know, get get topdect out ofthat situation or or have them have. You know the one card in the hand thatthey needed, but yeah it's going to happen with a deck like that. You knowit just comes shirt, hertory and that's that's again, decided to merit to thedack like tha, its just something that happens, and you don't necessarily needyour pane. He ddaw to do well with this deck. Itit is definitely just a strongarchetype in if itself, it's consistently doe Wele over the lastcouple of days, it turnmentswith n ny kind of leading the charge there, butthat's just something whenever I play AUC like that, I get so annoyed Soi. U One! One other result that I do want toalso mention m. We had a couple of eight excuse me aternitists that alsomade the top a, but the one surprise at eighth place at a forein two record. Wehad air an flynn with their salaments, so this is the second tournament in aRovancia that Salomons memax has made atop eit. Of course, in the lasttournament, David Ngrett got a top four with Salmons, and this is pretty muchthe same liss I I don't know there. There's not too many differences herebetween the two, but congratulations at Earin, Salamon's Venax, potentially notthe most viable deck. I mean. Certainly it's it's not. You know teer one by anymeans, but it can hang it can compete. It does some cute things and it can hitsome big numbers with the powerful energy. So I don't know if you'vethought too much about this deck, but I kind of enjoy it. It's something kindof fresh kind of new. It's a vmax that hits hard and h sets up prettyconsistently, which I, like yeah, never heard of a VNAX that hits hard and tatsit consistentr. No, I I haven't really put any effortinto Salomas, but it's a deckis real t to watch. It's like really coolexecuted, yeah, so propt all the Salomons fans out there. I want to posea question to you. Now we talked a couple of weeks ago about kind of offmetoddecks that we enjoyed, and you know t seems like at at least peikedyour interest. Are there any sort of off the beaten path decks that you'vefound really interesting either in your own game play or from these tournamentsor the last couple of days? Yeah? That's a good! That's a good question!I mean for me off the beaten path. As of the last week would have beenLecario mal model. It was a deck that I had a little bit of experience with,but really about a week ago. I started kind of putting some real games into itplayed a little bit on stream plated it in the Players Cup for a couple ofrounds, and I really have started to like that deck. We have a question inthe chant about that saying. What's the key thing that sets that deck apart,many people thought tha, the metal frying, pan rotation would have been adeath sentence to the deck, but you still have metal goggles so essentiallythe same thing if you're not facing against a firedeck, and I think thatthat really keeps it m really keeps it vible and then yeah just againextending the game for as long as that deck can makes it really hard for theopponent to win at certain times, because a lot of decks. You know youlook at ADP um that deck really tries to go as fast aspossible as quickly as possible and sometimes h. The the negative to thatis that there are often games where they only have like one real attackerset up. You know they only have one Zashan set up because, generally speaking and all the othergames that they played, they only really need the one's auhion. So Um,you know, Lecario mail metal plays a little bit more methodically a littlebit more slowly and can set up multiple tackers a little bit more easily andthen m. have that kind of consistent...

...staying power to be able to hit intothes actions over and over and over again Um kind of take advantage there,and so just the longer. The game goes on the better. It is for Lecariomelmental and that's just what sets the part of my eyes yeah, but that will beyeah. That would be. That would be one of the nexts that I would say has beenkind of under the Raidar. I guess another one for me that has been underthe radar that I have enjoyed and I've heard people do well with is andtellion.I don't. I keep bringing all those cosacto o now bringin it up, and it's just we'regoing to have to change the hodcast name to be the Italian show. But I havea have a friend that just messaged me saying: Hey Yo, W I'm doing pretty wellin in the Players Cup with Italion and I've seen a few people posted aboutthat, and you know again another another nice deck that that can hangwith the big boys, yeah prefer sure H, Yeahi'm still stuck in mad partylandmyself, although get out Bre G, I'm not going to take it to any playerscottournaments, but itis. Definitely my favorite dock to play. I do actually really like Pikrob, andthis this goes away back. I mentioned Togroun like a while ago. Irotation washitting and like using Bolltan and going to eep into that realm, and Ithink that's actually like kind of allegit strategy. vigramagainst actsthat don't just immediately destroy. It really sets up these very dangerous Borstates very quickly. Go example, specifically, is evenagainst these Um ts slower decks like the metal dacks or the Buto Dek thatdon't do a lot of ocoing action. You set up a lot of energy on the board.You said multiple beak, roms or multiple big GX pokem on you got boltunready on the the sidelines. It just gets really scary really fast. I thinkit's a really strong deck right now actually well, and that's a reallyinteresting transition we'll get to it in just a second but EAN ROB hasactually been playing a lot of Pekaram we'll talk about. Why that matters, andjust a second bufirst. I think it's San Forcardo the day, yes, and so I'mactually doing two cars, but it's because it's for a very obvious reason.So the RELIGENS! No, no, it's not allegion, although that would be funnya nice little follow up to last week's magazone. I love legend parents. I dotoo, you know I wasn't playing TCG and actually I was critically. This is myin my pase of life when I was crtically disinterenested in Pocamo. This is inmy Carlea, but I just have a tantion about legends, and I heard about legends- and I waslike this- is so absurd: poot ist the stupidest game, all time, it's Jus, so dumb and N, I'm looingback O Likewai, that's so sick! Those qerks were amazing, broad. Theeart is like chef's Kiss Hi's got to feel so goofy, though, to pull half acart out of a pack. I hope they bring something like that.I I swore that that would be the mechanic for like GIGANTIMAC. Well, Iguess Grigantimax is still a mechanic that we can still play, but I thoughtfor sure that you know ax anyway, the th I'm featuring two cardsand the reason I've featuring two cars is ecause. Only two of them exist forthis Pokimon and that is the Pichu rose. So if youdon't know me, Piche brose are like my favoriteelement of Alla pokomat more than the Pekachoese that I keep behind me on mywall. More than Ralit the peachebroers are, like my inspiration of my life umway back in the insider forms. My name was Pchu Bro Four, because PCHEBRO zero through three were taken so yeah and it ACTU. I think it'sspawned from the Pokmon Channel Game, where you like progressively unlockedthe Teachi brow shorts. If You'e ever played that one sure anyway, they have two cards, they haveone which was a pop series card, and that was really cool. It's really cute.It has I's, like a twenty damage, fot point attack for two lightnings and hasthe two little Brost chillen, but the...

...better one of the two. Actually, in myopinion, it was a p series Promo in Japan only which is basically theoriginal black star Promos when was the coast was publishing the game and ithas this adorable art. It's two feture bows their chillin, there's flowers,it's so wonderful. It's like some tr there'strees around them. Um like really great, like desktop wallpaper. If you like,teach, Ou and generally jus the feature, Bros areawesome. Man, it's school, that they've had a card at all Um. I I like it whenthey do those little off the cop kind of things I like the surfing picashoesI like the flying. He could choose. Do you have that cart? The Japanese? Idon't have the Japanese only one. I do have the pot forma or the Hof seriousone. It's a car that I've always like kindofwanted, but just as never come into my immediate vicinity and I'm not much ofan Ebay Hawk so M. is it pretty expensive? I don't think so. It's justdon't know. Actually I coand do a quick check right now. 'cause, I'm curious,okay, yeah, yeah that'd be interesting. Sure I do like when they kind ofincorporate kind of outside influences into their cards. I mean, obviously,that's that's a cool thing right, ecause it pulls in differente. U Ohyeah! That is expensive. An and e know why 'cause it was Um. It was a promo for the UH. I guess they're not always expensive,but some of I guess, can I guess well. The first one I saw was very expensive.Now that I'm look I was throwing through, I'm not sure was it? Was it aPSA ten or something o h? Okay! Well, did you go completed listings? Well,that's what I'm about to do so, but the reason why I guess is itmight be expensive is because it was Um. It was one of those movie Promo cardsthat you coald only get in Japan by like going to the film M, and this wasfor the. I think it was the fifth movie, the one with laudios and Ladias Ghamand the peacher rows have a cameo in that film. So I recommend seeing it forthat. Jus Super Cool, though I I love thoseoff to beaten path cards that featured something a little different, a littlewacky, really great for people like myself,you just enjoy those small little things sure sure well. Can I guess howmuch it costs sure all right? You have a number right, yeah. I depends on if you want to gofor like a graded or regular one. What's I mean? Is there PSITN or a PAnine at least yep? There's ten, there's IT ten. Okay, PSI TM Pecer brose fromwhat year two DOZAND, two I'll say I'll, say eleven hundred? Actually, no,it's significantly cheaper than that. It's in, like the three hundred dollarrange, really yeah and like Ely Sge, when you say a Promo, that's liketwenty years old thats a psaten. I immediately think you know moreexpensive, but that's surprising yeah, I don't know.Maybe it was easier to get than were like picturing in her heads here yeah.Perhaps I don't Kno I I tend sometimes with like you know. Somebody says: Ohit's a collector's card. I tend to like overvalue it and like compareeverything, t GARS, Har Yeah, you know, did she get any champions path?CARSARDS? Yet? No! Not Yet! No! Yet I'm hoping to. I mean I really want to. Ireally want. Have you ovend Ay Champions Path? Yet no, I have not rol.I haven't found any. I haven't looked, but I haven't found any. I haven'tlooked or found any either. So I'm kind of hoping for that. Second print run.Let's go. I don't Kn, I feel like hidden fates got bought up so fast andthere was a lot of it later on sure. I wouldn't be surprised if we seen asimilar thing 'msure, who does it?...

Let's stop in, though to our bridge. Sowe went from pekerob to Peachy rose back to Pekrom and we want to talkabout Ra, because if you're unaware just hours ago now, nrab finished hisum his run at the players Gut beated. All fifty of his of his keys he's done,got allhis points scumulated and he ended up with a hundred and twentyeight points in his words, with mostly Pekaram in those tournaments, so JB. What are your thoughts from there?You know now we have kind of a a sense of what people might be able to achievewhat the baseline might be. Obviously, in rob an exceptional player, I thinkhe's definitely going to do better than the majority of people in the playersCot. What do you think this knowledge kindof means? Where do we go from here? Surwell? I was thinking before thetournament started. You know that, well, we were just doing thatcalculation right so like if you just flipped a coin for every round. Howmany points would you expect to get, and we were just figuring that out andit said just shy, O two: it's like wowesing one point eight or somethingaus anyone now you know if you were flipping a coin again, like you weresaying: Okay, I enter fifty tournaments and then round one I win this time andthen I lose and then I wint and then I loose and then whatever and then yourbracker goes on. So you'd expect to get about two points if you were just doingit random. So of course there's some skill in the UM. You know there's some skill that youneed to Fal. Oh Jeez, there's some deck choice n in somemedigaining that you need to account for and obviously the better playersare going to do, generally, better and so yeah I mean it's it's somethingthat you're looking at him finishing with a hundred and twenty eight points,and that is, it feels very safe to me, 'cause. That is above you know thatkind of two point: Five threshold, a return per tournament, key right, thatd,be points perturnamickey above two point five, and that would be what Iwould consider a great kind of threshold. Like average right,you know d you're going to have those bad hands in the first round, whereyou're going to lose Um and you're definitely going to have those spikeswhere you just get really lucky and you're pon a mis click when you win theterm but um yeah. I I think that is that is reallystrong. I was kind of figuring before the Cold Players Cup started, that woe'd bebetween ninety and one ten to qualify. That felt like a really good number,again kind of going back to that little bit of randomization like if you justwere random like a little bit above. That would be enough to get yourselfinto the the second part of the competition and h. You know in againplayer I respect player that is very good and to hear that he finished witha hundred and twenty eight points. I think that that's you know goingto beabout the high end of like what the cutoff could be. No, I definitely thinkenrob is finishing on the higher end here. We're talking Toyou r kind,ofwhatthat, one twenty ight you know means in represents Um, and it suggest that more often thannight enrob was in the finals of a tournament, and so to me I think, ifyou're more often than not ending in the finals, that should suggest thatyou're going to make it the counterpoint, though I always have.Whenever people talking about players, cups is uh, you know we don't reallyhave any metrics or what this is going to look like yet um. You know we'repretty early on. We don't know what the leaderboards are. Looking like. Wedon't know how many people are actually actively trying, which will you know, Ithink that's going to be the real factor and what the qualification areis how many people are actually trying to get it regardless. I I think Irob definitelyhas a performance. That'll get him into that next age, the Players Cup and Ithink, if you're just going, if you have to rough estimate it the COUK thatwe ended up with- and I can even just...

Welti ut by fifty here, yeah we'relooking at like ninety four. Ninety five points is that kind of averageperformance. If you were to flip a coint every single round to me, that seems reasonable to shoot,for I think, if you're above a hundred above a hundred and ten, then youshould be fine right, O k. It remains to be seen, but- and I Y- U Don't- letme prescribe your players got for you, aultimately, try your best tryrartistlearn from your mistakes and you'll have a good time. You know D n't, itdon't force the issue, and this is again us like. We won't get a verysolid speculation on Um. What e final results would be: There's a lot ofdifferent ways to approach the Players Cup, as we have talked about on thelast podcast, but you um. You know if you'resitting here now and you're you know. Maybe under that threshold you knowagain that that kind of two points per tournament threshold like it might be agood time to to reevaluate, maybe your deck choice or just kind of take a stepback and see how the players cut develops in terms of what the point totals will be like at thispoint. We only have one dataset and it could go a lot of different ways for sure so approaching the players copyou've played in a couple of the events. I myself am still fifty out o fifty onmy keys, I'm looking ut starting this weekend, yeis there anything thatyou've noticed any trends that you'd recommend following decks that areseeming to be more popular than average yeah. I mean T it's been frustratingfor me. I I won't. I won't lie. Let me kind of recount here I have my tales ofWorkbook, I mean I. I've played exclusively Lacario mail, metal and ADP,with ADP being a majority. I've played thirteetounament so far I have sixteenraps, so that is um very clearly. Not You know on pace with where I want tobe and where I think that I need to be, and that's just me, you know sayingthat straight up and Um, I've certainly had some some bad losses in terms ofhaving just unusuable starting hands and it's and it's making me kind ofconsider. Okay. Where do I want to go from here? Do I want to continue onthis path? 'CAUSE? There is this kind of long form, um thought where, if youjust play a deck that you are confident in and you play for long enough, likeyour results, Wi'll kind of buff out and you'll see yourself on a you know,kind of higher end of things, Um hat the same token, like thirteentournaments in I feel, as though I have a pretty good m amount of data that Ican use to make a more informed decision. What I want to play, and so it might be time for a change or itmight be time for just like adding a few text or something into the ADP orLeucario mal metal, to kind of help with what I've been seeing. So one deckthat I've very easily taken the most losses to has or have have seen themost in the tournament- and this is not a shock to anyone but is ADP. There'sbeen a lot of Mer matches. There have been a lot of m. You know people playing ADP in thesetournaments and for a good reason, because it's just superconsistent- andyou know you- you don't need me to to say why people are playing any PP, butit has absolutely been the deck of choice for many players and I don't blame them yeah. Is there any other big shriend I meanI've. Everything I followed is kind ofsuggested. EGTC has been all over these tournaments Um any other major showings major showings M can't say that therehave been Um. You have things like sent o Scorch, that I've seen...

...youhave things like Blseflan I've seen a couple of times,but for the most part it's been ad p pretty much. You know I've seen ADP once atournament, probably on average, which has been pretty ridiculous. That is pretty insane. So if you were to make a just a deckrecommendation off the top to someone who's listening right now and just hasno idea what they want to play, what would that save pickby? WHAT OT THE GTP? Yes it would it would I mean I I don'twant to like? U W, I think it is like the best teckan. It can beat anythingright that stuff. That's the kind of m thing that you want itt consist in. Itcan be in anything Um and it ends the game like rather quickly like there's,not a ton that you have to like worry about in terms of misplanting like thethe Games are very cut and dry very straightforward. You know so for those reasons like, of course, apis going to be a great choice, and then you know you look at somethinglike Lacario mail metal that could have some viability. Look at something likeH, decks that would have a good eigt P match up. You know potentiallysomething like if you are confident in your sense of Scorch, which I am not,but if you were confident in your sensence Gorch that some people wouldargue has a decent eighty P match I, as well as having a decent, atternaisematchup, but atternative. I really haven't seen that much. Do you think? That's because peopledon't think atturns is the deck of choice or the Maye. I I don't know II'm really kind of scratching my head. I've seen atternative. I think one timeover thirteen tournaments one time, so I I really don't know why that two times two times yeah at two times over the course ofthirteen tournaments. I just I can't quite put my finger on why um it certainly seems like kind of anoutlier there, that not a lot of people are playing that diy yeah. That'sdefinitely interesting. I would have expected affair amount of atterniiveyeah. Absolutely I mean it seems like a deck that can hold its own against ADP,of course, getting that getting that knockout there on the second turn onthe Edpis is extremely good m, but I just haven't seen it it's hard to say,whe, fair enough, Yeahi mean and to be fair, like themetol of the player scapwel more than likely constantly warp and evolve as people play it, and even even things islike the time of a day that you're playing might inform the kinds of decxthat you're seeing is like different players from different areas, popa anAsur. I I think to another trend that I've personally been seeing is likeit's it's hard. I think it's easy with excuse me. I think it's easy with thedeck, like eighty P, to just play a very consistent like vanilla list. Youdon't really have to do anything too crazy. With a D P right, you can just play theforbas. You know. Maybe the craziest decision you have is like do. I want toplay for Um, crushing hammer for a turbopatch or forcatcher in my list, like that's kind of t e, the song what it coin a Mi Ipintoday. What that? What coin am I flipping to th y? Ah, what coin am Iflipping or all of them? If you like to be crazy, like Riley, and so you know that that's that's kind of acomfort of ADP two is like the deck is just built in a way that you don't really have toeven think about texts, whereas a lot of the other decks youhad to really think about. You know particularly Lecario Melmotal, like youcould play a very straightforward list like Andrew played at the full graponline series last night, which didn't include things like Meu to to recycle. Your supporters didn't include anything like weakness.Cared energy didn't include anything, you know no Rangaroos or anything justit was very consistent, very straightforward. Do you want to go Isomething like that? Or do you want to have things that can counter your badmatchups? U You just don't have to...

...think about that with the deck. Likeeighty PP, I think that's pretty um pretty appealing ti sounds a good to me.Yea Not having to think is definitely a plus yeah. I mean you know, and- and it'slike at the end of the day like this tournament, is it's a weird one? Youknow it's online, so you're not playing against one metagame you're playingagais like fifty individual metagames Um. You know it's not a one day tournamentwith everybody. It's just it's a weird thing so like asmuch advice as I can give, or that we can give you know just just take hitwith the grain ossault match it up against what you've been seeing and then and then just give it your best shot. Ido want to say to I just released a video on on you tosome things that we were talking about in terms of anxiety related to thePlayers Cup. I think it's pretty natural to have that kind of anxietywith this kind of event, because you know you put a lot of emphasis on eachof these nindividual tournaments and that can be very taxing right because Y,you have a total of two hundred and fifty points like ideally, you'vefinished th, the Players Cup too, with two hundred and fifty points easilysecuring you know your your spot in the next phase, but um there are just goingto be those times where you ded draw against a great match of, or you youknow, misclick or you know sometimes like your your computer. Will time outor something like that, something you know out of your control Um. I talk onthat video, just a lot about keeping everything in perspective and doing thethings that you can control and then maybe not so much worrying about thethings that are out. Your control, like the match. OFS are really out of yourcontrol Um, but the things that are in your control,theingame play and your deck construction are things that you can.You know try to work on in the future. Yeah- and I Ithink you you said this in the video, but if I could give any advice, it'syou know play what you're confident in play. What works for you take notes on your games, see wherethings are going well and going poorly. You know just have good fundamentals,you know back micture. Sequencing is good, take notes of areas where you're,maybe not doing it as well. Um Check your prizes at the start of thegame. It's T EASI as it can possibly be when you're on TCG O um, especially on those early turns. So you always take every tournament as anindividual step put you're all into it. Take the learning experiences that youcan out of it and apply it to the next one, and I think, even if you don'tqualify, you'll get something valuable out of that right. You'll become abetter player at the end of those fifty turnamentes and by players cut threewhich you know is strongly implied to exist. You Kno, maybe that's the one for you yeah, I mean for sure. For sure I meanit certainly doesn't feel like this player's Cup is going to be the lastone. I mean that's another important thing to keep in mind because I think alot of players. You know w. We want that more so in in you know, Pokmonthen I think a lot of other games like I look particularly at magic, likepeople play Pogamon primarily for the cloud like there is this monetary prizeon the line of being able to travel to a you know an interational championshipof your choice but realistically you're trying to do well, because you want toprove to yourself- and you want to prove to the world around you- thatyou're a good player and that you deserve to have you know accolades andpeople look up to you et Cetera, et Cetera and so um. That is the biggestthing in just kind of getting caught in that can really lead you down some darkpats. You know it can really lead you down some very destructive paths. Whereyou're kind of you know you lose a tournament and you're like well. Youknow I'm not good enough, and that's absolutely not true, like these againare kind of crap shoots in the sense...

...that it's the best of one. So it's HaBest of one where you don't know your opponents decklist, so you know theycould just come out with you know some tack or some car that you just weren'texpecting. I've definitely had that happen to me or you, you know, lose thecoin flip in a match up where you want to go in a particular turn and it justit's a crap shoot at the end of the day. So please please, please take anythingfrom this discussion of the player's cop to is don't place yourself worthand how well you do at these tournaments, because that can be very, very destructive. The other day you kN W plake as youenjoy it and play it in the way that you enjoy it. I think it's Yep th themessers that we can drive home yeah sure as as we rap up today. If anyonein the life stream has any questions, you can feel free to leave tose we'llanswer a couple of them before we sign on. As always, we appreciate yoursupport. If you're listening O, I see O feel Fr Eou to leave a review, itreally helps us out. It makes us move a look up a little bit of the tears andthe Algorithm. So it's easier to find US um. We Love Algorithms. We love thealgorithms we're very algorithmic here and it makes us easier to fint andmakes us able to better provide more content to you. Absolutely. I think too Um just w.While we're on the topic here, um or I'm going to go back to the topic, I Idon't care yeah but yeah. If you'R E, the fun aspect of theplayer's cup is like, I was finding myself, you know I had gone on. I'vebeen on. Let's see over the course again. I I disclosed myUm, my my point totals, but there was atime where I had like lost three in a row in the first round to like verywinable matchups, and I just either had a dead hand or you know, misst a turnin some cases. I, like you, know interpeted sorded three times and likeI just needed to hit one card, and I just didn't do it. You know it's justlike those frustrating frustrating games where it's like, I should havewon. You know as a one percent chance that I lose an. It still happened, butM in any case being able to step away from the game. I think its a reallynice thing like avoiding tilt is something that you can do. I generallythink pretty easily in these online playerscops. So if you find yourselfgetting into these tournaments- and you know- maybe you're on a losing streakand you're finding yourself getting really frustrated and annoyed and angryat the game, just take a step back like it doesn't have to be like that. Itdoesn't have to be so cutthroat and harsh that you're gettingmad at the game. I think that can be really destructive as well, so justavoid that tilt there and ND step back like like I've been doing. You know Iwas like really Gung Ho really trying to go for it ended up. You know having that little streak ofbad luck, and I was just like okay, you know what it might be better if I justwaited a week, an tran back to the player's Cup Hungri. That's the thing about the waythis tournament is going is like you can always just step back and do itanother day. I must feellike actually, at the end of the timeline there yeah'cause at the point that it's not becoming fun like you're, going Ta makemore mistakes you're going to be tilted for Sime. It's just y. The mistakes aregoing to compound on themselves. So don't put yourself in that pososition for sure got a couple of questions inchat so we'll get to those efor. We sign off for the day we got lose ourours loser, Rus asking! What do you think of salamints kind of touched onselements earlier, not really a dect, that I would play myself, but it'ssuper supercool and that isn't really demeric to thedeck. I think it's actually pretty decent in terms of the the more NICHVMAX tax. I think it stamds up pretty well and I really enjoy the spreadaspect of it.

Mass Dave says- and this is a goodquestion for you- Riley and I mean for for both of us, but I'm majorly througha game last night at the full grebown line series just had to sit back andlaugh at myself. Try to stay positive. Do either of you have any funny storiesof throwing a game that was basically unlosable at a tournament. Do you haveany of those times rearly? That's you're asking me that such a leadingway 'cause. You know it the story that you're thinking of Yes, I did have a game that was in acompletely unloseable game. State N, if I played it out completely normally-and I just got very confused in the earlygame and accidentally Trieng- to set up for a new game y picking up my pricecards, and so I got a double prize en al. The rlets see my price first, it was just a mess, it was absolutelybes. So, yes, I do have a situation likethat. It was at a real tournament in real location, it s, it was horrible, absolutely awful.It was it's very funny, though, like looking back that happened, you likewhat kind of Mor picks up their price cards hoto. I know right. You have tobe so stupid to do that, but you know makes for a good story for sure for sure yeah. I had one that it just sticks out most to me. I Idon't know why it sticks outmost, but it's just like. I always remember thisplay where I was I was at this. Was that a League Cup? Oh? No, I have a better one. Actually Ihave a better one that I could share. I okay, so I just t I have a better one:okay, so this is top e o, a regional in like twenty fifteen, I want to say twenty fifteentwent, forteen, tousand and fifteen twenty. Sixteen that you K W. They alljust run together, um anyway, toat of a reginal playing against a good friend,I'm up one, oh in the series playing Darkrey garbador there playingveriziand Genisek. It was in like it was that kind of weird period where itwas you played standard and then heswitched to expand it or something for the second day Um, and so I had this state where I was just Ineeded to attack into Um this. I made kind of a bad play, but I could havejust remeded remedied it by just attacking for the knockout. Instead, Iannounce the wrong attack, and so I had to perform the wrongattack which didn't get the knockout which tilted the prize trade. It waswith absalt from pl Plasma Freez, and there was one attack where it just islike it counts. The number of I think opponents sbenchpoke mine. It does likead the eye. Jast on that and then the other one looks at the opponent's hand,whell. I had enough energy to complete the attack. I looked at the opponent'shand and I accidentally sed it out loud and then my opponent, you know I I was a little tilted at this becausethey started to move their card to the discard pile, but then they realizedthat I said the wrong attack, so they put it back in the active and thenshowed their hand, and I was like e. You know what I meant like a Cak.Can you you know O wavthat like I'll I'll, take my prize and then um he's like no. You said the secondattack. I was like a little bit tilted 'cause. I E. I was just against areally good friend of mine and I was like man. How could you do that? To meand uh I mean an we. You know, and I I almost like yeah it that was reallytrying time. Actually, that was probably the saltiest hi'd ever been ina tournament 'cause. I just say that you know anyway,I lose that game 'cause. I make that stupid misplay and then I go on to losethe second game and, like I get bumped out of Cutt and now was a tournament, Ileginemately thought I could have won because I I was kind of like I had adecent match up a really good wealth, a...

...good match of in the next round, andthen it would have been a mirror in the finals. So it was just reallyfrustrating a d kind of punt that one away in topic you know. Actually I wantto build off of that. The worst part about the fact that Ilost that game. Where I picked up my price guards and to be fair, youprobably should lose a game where you pick up your biceguards mistake, but it's a double prized penalty. Youknow where they have to take two les fries to win or whatever Um, and the only reason I actually lost wasecause. I unnecessarily venched it execute Ana Cao the execute with theonly Boko I left in their deck thay could attack and it only lit like fiftydamage. Thatthat was actually the worst part ofall of that is, if it just didn't betch the execute. You know it's one thing tobe so stupid that you pick up your frie stars, but then to continue to play badfor the rest of the game. Theass is so dilty yeah, that's horrible man. I feel bad wunny. Well, I think there'sno better way to wrap up than by reviewing our failures. So thank youall so much as always do rate inerview on your Pi casting platforms and wewill catch you next time. DASE SEE OGUESS.

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