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Season 3, Episode 17 · 1 year ago

3-17. The Christmas Episode

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back- and they are packing another giveaway! Be sure to check us out on Twitter for more! Be sure to have a safe and happy holiday season. 

Yo, what is that? Everybody, welcome back to tag team, the POKEMON trading card games premiere podcasting Doo. My name is Riley Hobart and I'm joined, as always, by my good, good friend JW Currey Wall Kw. How's it going today? It's going great, Riley. Just gear enough for the holidays. So we're recording on a Tuesday as opposed to our normal Wednesday. What's going on? and JW, I regret it last week because you're like will be back again the same place. They class. Like you literally made a point. I know, I know. I was thinking about that to this earlier this morning. I know I was like, hang it, hang it, because I was on me. It was on me because I was fully planning. I'm doing the Wednesday. But then I thought about a little bit more and I'm going to offer a drive to Maryland tomorrow so that my wife can sleep or read or do whatever she wants. So I know I'm going to be tired. We're traveling to visit her parents for the holiday and so doing a sixhour drive, you know, in the mid afternoon, getting there at around seven and then doing the podcast later that at night just didn't seem like the best and I says I have to take my equipment and I'd have to find a you know room. Today I just seemed like a lot of logistical things that I didn't quite want to, you know, wrap my mind around. So I kind of want to leave this house and then just forget about a lot of things. Yeah, leave here are my mind kind of thing. Or five days. Yeah, I totally understand. Sorry. Are you planning on doing anything fun while you're in Maryland with the FAM? Well, we're going to meet up with Andrew Mahone. They're also in Maryland. Well, his family is. Well, yeah, I know, I didn't know they are going to back or not. Yeah, they are going back as well. We usually try to meet up when we're in Maryland. We have at least at least one other time and I rode back one time with Andrew Back to Cleveland, you know, like we've met up in Maryland before. But it'll be fun. His parents live in the like downtown, it's like fells area. You know, people that know Baltimore will probably be, you know, jumping up and down their seats. And then we live. Our aunt's family lives in Ellicott city. So we're going to go into, you know, the inner harbor and maybe meet up with them and walk around and stuff. So I'll be cool. And then family wise, and has a sister that lives in the Baltimore area. She works for Johns Hopkins, so we'll be able to see them and her fiance, new new fiance, as a as of like certainly within the last six months. So they're always they're always really fun to hang out with you for fun. Man. Well, I'm wishing you very well and your trip. Yeah, be really good. How about you? I know you're staying at home, but are you doing anything fun over your over your time? Um, you know, I got the whole week off of work, which and if itself, is very nice. I got to finally use those vacation days. Yeah, I made gingerbread cookies today. It was like my activity for the day, and that's making jebreat cookies. It's kind of an involved process. There's like a lot that goes into them compared to like a normal cookie. It came out okay, like they taste really good, but they look kind of ugly and the reason for that is I didn't have any cookie cutters really I had I had a Llama and I had a gnome and the nome, I think, was just I think was generically called a nome, but I'm pretty sure it was the Santa Claus One. Okay, so I like the no one was Santa that the Lama had nothing to do with anything. Okay, and besides that, I had to cut them out myself, right, and they just I think it's just the way I cut things. They had the same problem when I cut paper with scissors. It just was very jagged and there's like a lot of those little you know, like little points where you like the knife meets itself again. Sure, so they're kind of ugly, but they taste good, so I guess that's all the matters. I gave all the prettiest looking ones to my friend who's going to be going out of town tomorrow. So want to make sure that you know I spread the love a little bit, because I made a lot more than I intended to as well. Right, and I was always something with that, always something that you did as as a kid growing up. Um, kind of. We usually make like sugar cookies as a kid. Okay, we never really made gingerbread. We did do like cookies and icing for Santa when I was a kid, though, you know, I have my cookies for Santa. Now I have a nice little pikachu cookie, which is very fun. It was a good time. I I really thought that I'd be able to go to the store and buy cookie cutters because in my mind, the demographic of people who use cookie cutters and the demographic of people who need cookie cutters and like already have them is like the same. Like I figured everyone who needs a cookie cutter already had one. True, but I think my theory specifically because of the pandemic, a lot more people are like staying in baking. That's been like a trend the whole time, and so they're probably also baking cookies for Christmas more, and so they're buying all the cookie cutters, and so...

...they're also that. You should have checked that. Like a dollar store. I feel like that is a really good place to find a cookie cutter because, yeah, it's they're only worth a dollar. Yeah, I mean there were, there are dollar at target. I only went to a couple stores before I like, I'm just just got tired of looking for cookie cutters, but there's they're probably somewhere, but they were sold out a lot of like places you would expect a cookie gutter. Sure, sure, but enough about cutting cookies. We got some news to break down for you. We got some exciting upcoming events in the world tag team and we want to share those with you. So, starting off the cast for today, we wanted to announce our next giveaway. So last year for Christmas and New Year's we had a full art sash in and Zamaz and to give away. We really enjoyed doing that with you all. We enjoyed the engagement and hearing from me all over twitter and we want to do something like that again. So this year our give away aw Grueneral, please, that it is work. We're going to colloquial only call it a pokemon starter set. So we'll be giving away a combination of this Ashen v League battle deck, that's the one with ATP and the options and the core of the ATPS option deck in there, and we'll also be getting way in conjunction with that, a Pokemon TCG trainers tool kits. This is one prize and it really gives you the framework to just jump right into playing in real life. So I mean, you know a lot of you out there maybe I've been playing online a lot recently haven't really kept up in the real life scene, which is understandable, and we want to give you a chance to kind of like Jump Start Your collection and get moving. So I think this is really fun. It's really gives you the framework you need to get moving and honestly, I think these are really cool products. So it's super cool to be able to interact with them. Yeah, and certainly, you know, if we're not even back to playing like in the next you know. Yeah, I mean he's are like rotation proof. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I was going to say these are great cards for, you know, into expanded even yeah, even just, you know, if you want to have a deck to kind of commemorate the format, why not ATP yeah, and honestly, like you know, I haven't been following into closely Pablo's like post rotation series because obviously there's like a lot more sets that are coming out before rotation. Yeah, so sure, it's all very subject to change. Was Action V has been a very big staple even then. So you know, having access to those is going to be super awesome. So the give way? Will we post it on our twitter? Make sure you follow us at tag team Pokemon and just perform the actions in the tweet there and you'll be entered in so that the giveaway will start right after this podcast drops. So if you're listening on your podcasting platforms, are on Youtube, it'll already be there and it'll go up until the start of the new year. So you have until December thirty one at fifty fifty nine to get in. There going to be eastern time, so we're looking forward to hear from you all now. Should be great and a huge shout out to full grip games for helping the podcast out. You know they've been great allies to JW and myself throughout our POKEMON careers last couple of years here and helping us manage the logistics of the so thank you to our friends. Been Great. Absolutely. Yep, that's our give way. We're excited to have you all and we want to just give back and this spirit of Christmas. Moving into some other fun topics for the day, though, Jew we are chat chatting for the cast and it sounds like you've been keeping your eye peeled for some rogue masterpieces out there and honestly, the ones you wrote to me I wasn't even super familiar with you, and maybe that was just my ignorance, but talk us through the rogue deck. See, right now, in the POKEMON trading card game, people seemed like kind of the Meta seems to feel really centralized when you talk to certain people and I want to give our listener as a chance to take a look outside of our sphere of Vor. Yeah, I mean, of course, you know, you always have the you know, the lightning metwo is, the Zosh and decks, the let's Ce Flan, sense of scorches, a turn it is, you know, etc. Etc. But there have been a few other things that have been kind of putting themselves on the radar. First has been, you know, there are a few decks, obviously, that are, you know, known quantities but haven't ever really performed until recently. One of those decks would be mad party. Yeah, yeah, I have. I have seen mad party over the last couple of weeks. I mean it hasn't really ever entered into kind of striking distance of a win, but it's certainly been in that top sixteen and you know bubble for top eight type position. So we've seen to have a couple of performances over the last week. Danny El Tavia was, you know, top sixteen, I believe, in a Hexta tournament with it, and then we've also seen in the league, or excuse...

...me, in the limitless online series, like weekly tournament, it got top sixteen as well. So it just kind of a cool deck that we've been seeing, you know, pop up and maybe it's now starting to come into a little bit more viability now that, honestly, now that lists seemed to be getting a little bit more optimized, we're seeing just as many ball counts as people can possibly fit in as many search yards with the like. Poke balls are starting to come in and like e radars and stuff, so just like getting as many of those pokemon search cards in as possible. Another deck that has been, you know, obviously unknown quantity, but you know, still is in that I would say, I don't know that kind of rogue aspect, because if people tech for it, then it's not that good, but then if nobody texts for it, then it goes on to like easily win the tournament. I think you know what I'm going to say. In decidual OBSTACON. Yeah, absolutely has been, you know, a great deck for people that are looking to win tournaments because you're not really seeing a lot of opposition from opponent's decks because, again, it's that like one or two people playing it in a tournament and so people drop their counters from their decks, understandably so, and then it goes on to sweep because nobody has a way around it. So those are a couple decks that are known, that have certainly had, you know, some Modicum of success in the past that we've been seeing recently. Another one personal kind of favored mind because it includes, you know, a regional winning card, is real boom, real boom with the lowland executor of round it. Yeah, yeah, has been doing doing okay. I mean it got a top four placement a's a at a hexter tournament over the last week, which is great. So I mean real a boom, I feel like, has never I don't know if you can speak to this, it's never felt like it could ever crack. Like kind of I agree, you know, tier one viability, but and I don't necessarily see anything unique about the list that by Corns Alta that is any you know, anything super special or anything unique. But it is worth noting that it, you know, has kind of been in the mix for like top thirty two placements pretty consistently in this format, and this seems to be, at least from my memory, the highest placement that it's had in in in forever. Yeah, why do you think real a boom is all of a sudden, you know, getting so much clay? Hard to say. I mean I think, like you just look at the cards inside, like it's made up of good cards. You know, the real a boom deck is made up of good cards, like the Rollin alone. executory is like a good card on face value, and the deck also really relies heavily on double, which is another just good card. Buble is definitely a good card. Yeah, you know, and there are a lot of decks that you know, honestly struggle with. Double will just no doubt of itself. Yeah, so that's just generally a good card for prize trades, especially into tag teams. And then, you know, you have like Shayman prison star, which is a just a good card, like it's face like a one prizer that could potentially one shot were trees for your tree, you know. So it's made up of all these good cards. You know. So it's not like it's not like it's coming out a left field necessarily, but yeah, that that you know, it just finally maybe is seeing, you know, either the right pilot or just getting the right breaks. You know where it can succeed. So we had one other one that I wanted to mention and I am Oh, yes, yes, yes, okay. In the again in the Heister Sixteen Tournament, the number seven placement is a seeking deck which is pretty unique using, well, unique in the sense that we haven't seen it in this format, but right, using the ripping corn seeking along with the glimwood angle to try to disrupt your opponent, discard all their energies and then you gut something active on their benches. They're trying to recover the resources and you lock them out of the game with like a criagonal or they just can't retreat because you've gotten rid of all their options. So that one's another really interesting deck, really cool deck, got seventh place at this tournament. That's crazy. I feel like see kings been, you know, hard meme for a while now and you know, it's actually getting success recently. So yeah, apparently I've been seeing, you know, I saw somebody posters in a it was in a twitch chat or something the like. Why am I running into so many seeking decks on the better today? That's funny. Yeah, so I want to dive into some of these little bit more. You Know Mad Party. I mean I think the both the success and the build of...

...mad party kind of tracks for me. I'm I'm still definitely a fan of mad party. I think it actually trades pretty a lot of decks. I want to dive into decidual a little bit more. I feel like there's been some debate about how deciduate should be played. You specifically called out obstacon. Why? I want to take into this a little bit because I feel like there's a lot of people who would air on the side of just playing Decidu I and cutting out to be line completely. And do you have any thoughts one way or another about how you would prefer the deck to be played? It's just so hard for a significant number of decks to get out of the obstacon lock that it seems kind of it seems import form not to play an obstacle in line I. I have done more testing with obstacle in the decidual I deck them without so I think I'm a little biased there, but you know, you just have like no shot at beating a like able cephalon deck or a sent to Scorch deck, and I don't think you're really sacrificing all that much to include it. I mean obviously you're you know, at least three, maybe even four cards if you go a two hundred and two line of obstacleon. So you're taking that away from, you know, the consistency that decidual I could bring. But you know, you're gaining like a large matchup spread the otherwise wouldn't just wouldn't have access to and so I think it's worth it in a lot of cases to be able to head your bets against of wide a variety of decks than to kind of, I don't know, even more auto win the decks that you probably should win anyway. That makes sense. The specifically, you know, in the case of obscy you caught out, there are three or four cards that usually to accommodate that right to get those two zero or two lines. Yeah, and then obviously you would have to adjust the energy counts. But silly. In a more straightforward kind of Decidu I build what do you think are the cards that you know have to be cut? Or if you're trying to go from obstacle into a more straightforward build, you know what was you add in? Huh, that's I mean, honestly, that's a really good question. If you're going from like a if you're going from a straight or if you're going from an obstacle and Decidua into a straight DECIDUA, I mean you're obviously adding like more of the consistency cards, like you can add up, you know, your Fourth Rosa, your fourth like birdkeeper. If you're only playing three, I'm you could potentially play another boss, which is a obviously one of the weaknesses of any of those block style dexes that they don't have a ton of access. They don't have a ton of space to put in the gust cards that they otherwise. You know that pretty much every other deck plays and you know three or four counts. So yeah, that is that is one of the weaknesses of the deck is that they just don't have a lot of access to the opponent's bench. Not you see a lot of these lists. They have one boss's orders, maybe two. They rarely including great catcher. So you know, if you wanted to go from an obstagoon list, take out the obstacle line, you know, maybe consider another boss's orders just give you a little bit more reach. You also have, you know, things like more consistency, right. So, like the decidual obscon that I profiled on my youtube channel the other day had a well, I guess it was today, but you know it had it kind of skimmed on the set up pokemon. So you're playing like a too GERACI, to snore lax line, and if you were to, you know, cut the obstacle, you could probably go up to you know three, maybe even for Geraci. It's that kind of thing where you're sacrificing that consistency for a little bit better matchup spread if you go with the OBSTACON as opposed to without the obstacle. For sure, and it's funny. Obstacle obviously, you know, helps pick off this Volcanians, particularly in their any sports matchup. But the other one of the other decks, you listen, the road deck I would think of is having a traditionally pretty poor sanny sports matchup, and that's the real boom deck. How do you think real of them is like? Sliding into success in a metagame that we originally thought would be dominated by FENNIS courge. Yeah, well, I think you look at you know, the power of like. It's like how does peaker on beat colossal right, the on the back of eight of mew two righth and so similarly, like, how does grass eat fire? I mean on the back of me too. To an extent, you're not generally playing as many like you're probably playing like one, maybe two mewtwo and your rillaboom list. But then you're also riding double wall for all she's worth, trying to trying to get as much use out of that double as possible. Yeah, potentially onto the two doubles that you have. So yeah, certainly a deck like that like it. You're putting your opponents in a tough position, right, if you're playing fire, because you have this energy accelerator. That's grass, but the weakness isn't really that big of an issue because it is only a one prize Pokemon, the Reala boom, right, and so you know it's it. You put your opponent into a weird position where they're like, okay, do I gust up their energy accelerator or do I swing into their double in the active and like maybe you can't even one shot the double wall and it's you know, hit you for heavy damage. And so, you...

...know, you create a lot of interesting scenarios for sure. Against Fire decks attract for me backs for me. So let's let's hit in that last deck then that's the seeking deck. In your opinion, what is one addition that we could make to the seeking deck to make it extra special and extra spicy, Extra Spicy Sea King Deck. Man, that is that is a good question. I don't know that. I that I thought about that. It sounds like you have something in mind. They give me. I don't. I really I really don't. Harder, I really don't. I just said I feel like you're playing seeking. You're already kind of like trying of you spicy, right. So, yeah, you know what. So what's? Yeah, what's the all spies can add to this? The ultimate spice? Yeah, that's a that's a good question. I mean it's hard to say. You're going in with this like alternate, this alternate winstrat of just discarding all their energy on a one prize pokemon. You know, it's like how much more spicy can you get? Well, I guess. Just let us know on twitter if you have any, any spicy ideas for seeking. Just tweeted us at tag team Pokemon. We'd love to hear it. So, if you're going to go to a tournament and you had to play a rogue deck and you're well, just have fun, what rogue deck would you take with you? Well, I find mad party to be really fun. I find that deck just good, you know, yeah, just really, you know, you and and you didn't tell me to say this, by the way, right, but I've party to be fun because it obviously it reminds me of our cousin and played ass night March, obviously. So, so that would be the the deck that I would take if I was just really gone for fun. If I know, I will actually, if I really wanted to go for fun, I would probably take some kind of weird stall deck that revolved around Galarian or a Lowlan Muck, yeah, and likes to coop up that chains. Yeah, I guess that would be the spice that you could put in seeking now. And now that we finally got to it, that would probably be the spicycer put in seeking. It's try to like this Carter switches and stuff. But yeah, I would probably bring something weird around that if I was like truly like just had no cares, which honestly, is never going to be the case because I like never have a Timeser, Super Suar hardshever I go to an online tournament, I like I gotta try to win this thing and I gotta try to put my all onto it. So, yeah, it sends to me cool. So let's jump right in, then, to our car, to the day. So obviously do it. This week is the week of Christmas, and you know someone in chat or someone listening, you know, feel free to factor, as I got us on twitter, if we did this the wrong order because we lost track when we had selio. It's I think it's supposed to be me, but then when you said you had a you had a Christmas card or Christmas themed card, I was like, okay, yeah, it doesn't really matter. And I guess it depends like if you consider Celio solving it or if you consider, why do I see Celio, if you considered chip selling in for us, or if you can sit shitter, considered chip like slotting in? Right, yeah, righte. So, anyway, cars a this week is obviously going to be Christmas team and at first I was scrolling through delibird cards to try and find a good one of those. That seems too obvious to me. As I tried to find something a little more interesting and the card I found isn't a traditional card. It is in the card you can play in a deck, but it is a POKEMON card, though. In Japan there is an exclusive promo. Pokemon did this with toys R us for a Christmas fare and it is so cool. It is a jumbo card and it's got pikachu and all the Hoe and starters and there's a snowman side uc in the background and there's presence everywhere and there's like this Christmas kind of arches. It's just a beautiful card, honestly, and you know, it's got that Nice like Japanese great border, a little toys r US stamp on there and it's a promo that happens sometime in the xfy block. I tried to learn more about this and I really struggled, like find good information on this card. There is a couple listings on Ebay and they're all for quite a bit of money. So it's super cool honestly, I just thought this card is beautiful and I wanted to call it out specifically. So you post that in the any kind of website that you found with the card, because I'm interested and I did like a quick search and I couldn't find it off first glance. Yeah, I'll post the EVEA LAN in the and shot in the chat on twitch. Okay, so if anyone is interested, you can click on that and if you have a thousand dollars lying around, you can buy it. Oh yeah, that's so. That's pretty insane. That looks amazing. Yeah, and it's a jumbo card, but I think it's super cool because it jumbo card with the Japanese bag. I don't know why. That's...

...like super cool to me and I will if I had just like a thousand dollars to blow. It's like the kind of NYLST you're halfway there, so it's to be solessing. It's super awesome. If I had just like a free thousand dollars, I would definitely buy that. Dude, you're you're getting the stimulus right. I know that's six hundred out of it. Tell you what we I will send you mine and then you buy the card and then we can like have dual custody of it. So like then you'll ship it to me for like half the year and then I'll ship it back to you. I will just kind of I feel like whoever gets it for the Christmas half of the years like the right. Okay, WE'LL TRY IT by years. Then try to buy years. If you get it there propagated custody agreement. I feel like I would rather just pay the thousand dollars than think about that. So that's the car of the day. It's not a card you can play in any sort of deck, but it is very, very cool though, and it's the most Christmas e hard, I think, in all the Pokmon that's for sure. I PROMISI did share delivered with a present attack. Sure that's amazing. Yeah, super cool. Looking ahead, though, there is still pokemon events in the future here. So couple that I wanted to specifically call out today was the GG Tour K ement. So is the K Prize Pool? I feel like nor normally like a big ticket prize pool. Is K. Yeah, you know, obviously this tripling that. So pretty substantial amount of money on the line here. Five dollar I don't know where they're getting. I mean I just don't know that the numbers add up really, I mean unless you can be operating at a loss on this, you know, just for Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean that's that's what I imagine. I just it seems like you think the R livery it just seems very interesting. Like the numbers just seemed so far off that. No, and it's not a it's not a like a it's not a negative. You know, I'm not trying to like throw shade on them. I just like it's impressive for you know, there's forty four players registered right now. Presumably they've all registered at the half price discount. You know, you've seen a lot of creators that are like, please use my code. Normally the entrance fee is ten dollars, but we've reduced it to five dollars. So let's say that, you know, there's forty four people at five dollars a piece. That's nowhere near Three Tho. So I mean I'm sure they're going to have many, many more people sign up, but the even still you would need, you know, I mean you're you're a math guy, Riley, like how many people would you need to average the three thousand if they're all paying any five dollars, and obviously you need three hundred at at ten, Seteen, six hundred and twenty five. So it's just interesting. Yeah, it is interesting, but I obviously there's a lot on the line in there, so be sure to get your practice in if you're looking to take home some of that massive prize pool. Yeah, it's great. It's great. Five hundred dollars for first place. That's amazing. It is super cool. You have you if you were going to play in the GG tour tomorrow, what was you bring with you? Yeah, I think I'm the most comfortable with a Pe Kurram deck. That may ay or may not include you too. I think you could go either way. I would probably include at least one just to give at least a hope in like a colossal base matchup, but I don't think you necessarily need it by any means. So pegram is just kind of the deck that I would at this point in the game. I would just kind of ride or die with. It's proven itself pretty much time and time again. It seems like, for a big tournament like this, it covers enough matchups that you're not you don't ever really feel out of a game and with a deck like that you can play yourself out of bad situations. With the auto paralyzed and the reset stamp combination, you're never truly out of the game and even with like a tag bolt right like, you're never going to be just completely blown out to the point that you know you have no moves, like you're always going to be able to play the game with the energy acceleration and the just the built in consistency. So I like a deck like that for a big tournament. Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. I mean, obviously I feel like it's less surprising for me because I have in kind of standing peak from the last couple weeks here. It's definitely my go to deck right now, especially for the larger the event. Yeah, I think in events that are going to be larger presumably, and have a more diverse metagame, you want to be able to spread yourself out as much as possible, and peakurm really is a good deck for that. I'm the combination of just really powerful attacks and either like consistent acceleration...

...with the more bolt on heavy build or just focusing on crushing cameras and having that disruption. Both strategies are really good against a lot of different decks and I think peak Ram is one of those decks. It's really good at keeping down like mystery decks. Yes, yeah, that's great. So it's a really good so Pek Ram is definitely one of those kind of decks. It's really effective against things that you might not necessarily expect, with the acceptance things that are explicitly like made to beat Pekrom. Yeah, like Don Fan maybe. You know, you're probably going to have a hard time with that one. Yeah, but I definitely agree with your at least one me. Two seems like a really good choice right now. I think colossals really just been kind of rising and even getting like one chance to get a nice clean hit with him. You two. It seems pretty valuable. You know, besides the fact that you can prey on colossals inherent inconsistent these sure, and you know, overall is just a solid archetype all the way through. It always has been, you know, since the are dropped, though, an't really complain. So, you know. But if we're both on p Kurram, what's are like our second string choice, but like to be cromers. Yeah, for I mean for me, it'd be again at this other like you think about you're going into, you know, presumably a big tournament. I would imagine that there would be like at least four hundred, probably closer to five hundred people. They're like, if I had to just give a guess based on past tournaments, and then it also being Christmas break, of course. But you know, again you're going to this big tournament. You want to make sure that you are playing a consistent deck. So I'm generally going to shy away from a deck like deciduing obstacle and although that would be a good choice, you're just generally gonna you know, not maybe not set up as well as like as a big tag team deck. So I would air towards something like, if I had to choose a second string deck, could probably be a turn this just having that, yeah, saying you're actually the same here. They are just on the same page today, or really okay, yeah, I would air towards the turn. It is just because you're going to be doing what you do. You know, ninety percent of the time you blow out the tag teams, which are just just a huge point in this metagame right now. They're just like tag teams are just running it, and so I'd be very comfortable taking a turn this as well, for sure. was you play a poison variant or a mare straightforward variant? Yeah, I've obviously swap between the two. I think a lot of people have, like just the preference for decks has changed, and I would go for a straight variant with a significant counter to Zamazana. I would make sure that I would play at least like two speared Tumb or, you know, one or two sable lie, just making sure that I have my basis covered when it comes to a card like Zamazana extent, but I would yeah, I would not go the poison rot just because that is a little less consistent when you're looking to just, you know, try to get up to that turn, to two hundred and seventy against the TAG team decks. I think that's where you really are going to shine with the deck like a turn. It is make sense to me. Yeah, I I am inclined to agree. I just want to play for the consistent a large event and playing straight forward version seems to be the way to do that. Riley, you have, I mean you have the time. Presumably, are you going to play in this event? What Day is actually start? It's on the twenty six is like Swiss, and then it's a two day event. Maybe. The only thing like kind of stopping me is I'm watching the same friend WHO's leaving town. I am watching their cats or the next couple days. So I'll have just a bunch of cats, and her cats are kittens. Okay, kind of like pay attention to them as opposed to mine, which I just like let roam, especially because my cats will be uncomfortable with the addition of Kittens, you know. So I don't want there to be like any turf wars or anything. Okay, okay, that's like an only think gives me pause. Otherwise, I like. Otherwise, I probably will stop by. You know, you old RAMAS swing. Yeah, it'd be great. I would love to see you compete. I probably will not be playing, just you know, with family and stuff, it just gets harder and harder to play and online tournaments for me. I wish I had the time, you know. But I did actually play in a tournament. Not to go too far off track on the the GG tour coming up, but I did actually play in a tournament this last week, the limbless online series, and I played ATP and it was not a good time. Actually. I'm just like, I'm pretty sure I'm just off of suggesting ATP two players. I hate playing ATP. Yeah, not fun. Yeah, I mean, I know we're giving it away. It's like literally our giveaway. I think it's not necessarily a bad deck, but I'm like, for me, I'm just off of it because it feels so much like the Games. And this is the problem with the the problem with the format. If you find that there are problems as like it really boils down to how many turns is the game interesting? And with the deck, like ATP The game you know, you're you pretty...

...much know what's going to happen in that first one or two turns, right if you don't get the turn to alter creation, like you're probably not winning because you're probably not going to be able to use your attack and start to power up benched Pokemon, although you can still win even if you don't do that, but you know. And then it's just you know, there's not a lot of interesting turns with the deck. So it hasn't really gripped my attention as a deck that I would, you know, really want to play for a bigger event. No, I totally understand that sentiment. I do think while ATP doesn't typically have a very interesting tempo of turns, like a great ATP players do make the deck interesting. Sure, I forget Su who it was on the Players Cup stream, but they had this really fascinating route and sometimes they would forego the altar creation just because they knew they're hitting into two tag teams regardless, and like things like that that just really separate the good from the great at players and the good from the great players in general. Yeah, you know, I don't want to downplay like the deck is phenomenally good. It's just not for me. I think I'm feels. Yeah, and there's certainly there's certainly things you can do with a list to to maybe, you know, make it a little bit interesting or unique. You know, they're certainly tech cards you can include, obviously, like age or crushing hammers or whatever you want. Like there are ways to make it your own. But yeah, I've just found generally like I'm either losing the game in the first two turns or I'm like a solidly and control in the first two turns there. It's not just there's. There hasn't been a ton that I've found where I can finneggle my way out of a bad situation or on the other you know, on the other side like that, I ever lose after that dominating start. So for sure there's one other event that I want to specifically call out, and that's going to be the next iteration of the Players Cup, Players Cup three. That's going to be kicking off here in January. So if you haven't already taken a look at that, be sure to check out. POKEMON's website has some of the more fine details. It's really structured pretty much the exact same as Players Cup to I think the logistick back end for TCG is actually the exact same for month, obviously, sure, sure, and obviously vivid voltage will be legal for the qualification period. so JW looking ahead towards the qualification period and approaching that, and I'm not putting on top for this for the reason that you're bea smiling about right, but generally I am curious like what your thoughts are about, like how how you would recommend going about this. We talked last year about what is the best time to qualify and we kind of we kind of agreed like somewhere towards the start, middle area. Let's probably the right time. Yeah, would you approach with a similar strategy this time, do you think, or how would you like recommend? You will go into the know from Players Cup to yeah, I would I change or stay, and I can. I'll give my experience as well. I'm curious what your thought. Yeah, first now, I mean I I thought that that the way that I approached it was pretty good. I felt, though, that I, you know, it just there were times where it was like it was kind of for me. I would get into these slides and it would just be kind of frustrating to get out of the slides. And then those like the last ten tournaments where I knew I was like on the I finished with somewhere around eighty one points. I think it wasn't like the cutoff was eighty nine, I think. So I like I was at towards the end. I was like in the mix, but I knew it was going to be like I had to win, you know, pretty much every tournament towards the last like ten tournaments, and you know, that's just was frustrating mentally to to do that, and then to sit around and actually watch all the other results come in was also kind of mentally draining. So I think I had a good I think I had a good like route for the Players Cup two and sent in the sense that I did it early or like in the middle, but it was I think that round is really good if you are, you know, winning a lot of tournaments early, because then you know you have to if you're if you're in that mix but you're not solidly guaranteed, and you finish all your keys early, then you have the weight around for, you know, two or three weeks until everyone else finishes and then you're like just, I don't know. For me that's like kind of frustrating to see everyone else posting their stuff and that's you know, hey, I got a hundred and twenty points at these tournaments. I like Tanng it, dude, like I finished with eighty. Like what am I doing out here, you know. And Yeah, that for me, like my I don't know, mental health, I don't have, you know, mental health problems. But like for the how good I felt about my performance, like I may this time try to just do it kind of towards the end so that I don't have the weight around...

...so long to see everyone else's performances and how they compare to mine. Right because, like, if I just don't start until the last week, then everyone else's performances like I could potentially do that. That's like money. Now. Sorry, yeah, yeah, it's like nobody deal. But then if I see that, you know, they got, you know, forty more points than I did, like, what the heck? You know, that's messed up. And then I had to wait another three weeks for the tournaments to be over. It's frustrating. I totally get where you're coming from. I think I would overall, I would reiterate this the tips that we gave around the first time period, but I would add, I would think out add a covey, I kind of echoing what you say. So I think if you're looking to just cruise through and like plow through your keys, going somewhere and like, the second week is going to be the time for you in terms of you'll probably have the easiest time getting through the events. It'll just be a good time to grind. If you're the kind of person, though, that needs a lot of extrinsic motivation or, like GW is alluding to, like the waiting aspect of it. Is it is stressful, like no doubt, especially if you're sitting around like a potentially unsafe margin. So if you're someone who either needs the extrians and motivation or just isn't going to buy into that stress, I would say like do it towards the end, like and and knowing which one is best for you. I think is ultimately a Consisia to makes for yourself, or just like do it casually throughout the whole time. You know, it's another decent strategy. That's kind that's kind of what I wanted to do last time, but I just got like addicted to pressing play again on the tournament. It is I mean it is really, really addicting, and anyone that played, and players cume to, I think, is going to, you know, kind of resonate with that. So, yeah, it's just so like even when you win, when you lose, like you just want to go run it back. Yeah, because when you're hot you're like, okay, well, I must be, you know, something must be going my way, like the algorithm must be, you know, shuffling right for me or you know, I'm just playing really out of my Gourd. And and then if you're losing, you're like, well, I can't lose like this. You know, it's like you're in the gym right you're playing basketball and you know you threw up the last shot and it goes off and you're like well, okay, I can't leave on a miss, so I got to go make another shot. You know, it's that kind of thing. So, yeah, taking some stumble some other steps there, though, building off of that further. If you do lose, try not to do salty run backs. You know, take a couple minutes at least and refresh. You know, even if it's simple as like going your bathroom and like throwing some water in your face and then coming back and sitting down, like take that step and refresh yourself, as opposed to going until did and then the other tip I would give is don't get completely psyched out by like streaks in one way or the other, but like picking a deck that you're confident with and sticking with it at least until it's like obviously just not a good choice. You know, if you're which is like a tough it's tough to know. If it's not not a metric, that's like you can't measure that. Yeah, it is really tough to know. I mean it like a lot of this is just trusting your testing, you know. Yeah, but I would say like overall, like sticking with a deck. You'll get a better outcome that way because you'll, I would say, ultimately, like the variance will be less impactful stick with one deck. Right, because let's say, you know, let's say I switch decks for every single round and, you know, playing any scores one round and I just like auto lose to some water deck, and so then I switched to peak rom and then I get a colossal deck, and then I switched to like some water deck and I get wrecked by rill a boom, and it's like, you know, if you just played Peka arm for all five of those then you would have probably had a decent wind. But because he switched around so much, you like increase the variance that you're experiencing, right, because you were adding variance to yourself in addition to the Paris of the other people. Right. So, right, sure, that's kind of like the point out emphasize. There is like try and try and find something that works for you and likes. Just stick with it. Yeah, that's what I found. Work for me. Is like, if you do want to have multiple decks, just like, you know, so you're not slogging away at one deck of the whole time, have like a pool of decks that you're confident with and keep yourself with in that pool. Yeah, sure, y'all. Sure you'll be more successful. Yeah, exactly. And I mean I think even with the with the best players, like if they're like you were saying, in that scenario where it's like, okay, I lost my like an autoloss that I should have lost to you know, and then you immediately switch a deck, like there's there's going to be. Yeah, that inherent like kind of unstability, instability with that new deck of knowing exactly what to do and, you know, just generally speaking, playing, you know, more games with a deck is going to yield better results. Like, you're exactly exactly the don't introduce more people. I've put my players love to complain about variants. Don't eject variance into your in your experience. Yeah, that's...

...true, man, that's true. Like you're actually is something you have your droll over. Don't make it variance. Right, right, that's my take, at least. So and we'll talk more about players got three as we get closer to the qualification period as well. Be Sure to give you the latest metal snapshots and what we plan to use you get through our keys. But that brings us right on to the end of the episode here today. JW's or any parting Christmas wisdom that you want to give to our listeners here, parting Christmas wisdom, while I just think like continue to be good citizens on, you know, the ladder or on, I don't know, in tournaments. I think, yeah, I've seen, from my perspective, like really great people in terms of sportsmanship and competitive drive, and it's been nice to see. Certainly, I almost feel like from my perspective, and I maybe could be wrong on this, like maybe other people have had way different viewpoints on this, but I've felt like the online scene on the whole has been a lot more positive than the in person scene. You know why? That is why I feel that way. I can't quite put my finger on but I feel like, you know, just continuing to keep up that positive energy towards the game, continuing to support these tournaments and organizers that are putting on these tournaments and trying to make pokemon great despite the circumstances. Is is a really big deal. So if you are doing that, continue to do that. If you're not doing that, why not? You know, ask yourself their questions. Yeah, yeah, continue to be good to each other and continue to help grow the game. Yeah, and I would say like extend that beyond the game to like be good to the people around you, especially in the spirit of the holidays, but throughout the year as well, I would hope. Yeah, sure, of course. Of course. One other thing I want to say for your wrap up today. I know this is probably going to be a different or weird holiday experience for many of our listeners. Maybe you weren't able to travel to meet your family or your friends. I'm sure that's difficult for a lot of people, and so I just want to like blankets at the offer, like, if you need someone just to chat with, you know you're more than welcome to like dms on twitter or DM myself like facebook or INSTA. I'm happy to like sit down and chat and wish you marry Christmas and happy holidays. Not Trying to be married to Christmas here. Like, no matter what you celebrate, we want to wish you a happy season and a happy end to your year here. So, overall, like try to take it in stride and lean into the awesome community that we do have. You know, JW called out how positive online sphere has been recently and I'm sure there's all sorts of online folks who are going through similar situations who would love to talk to you. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. It's a hard time for a lot of people for a number of reasons. You know it, it it just, it is what it is. The you know, you've heard it and every probably every piece of media that you consumed. You know people are just struggling right now just for a variety of reasons. So, yeah, you're not alone in that. You're not. You know. You don't need to feel as though you're alone and, like Riley said, we're here. If we can be, we're here for you. Absolutely. We'll take one question is I think we got a really good one in the chat here, and then we'll sign off for the day. Says Zorada giacs dropping. What are some good pokemon gift ideas that we can still find other than cards. W any thoughts that come to mind for you? But having a couple ideas well, like, I mean, plushy's are a huge thing in pokemon. So yeah, that would probably be my number one answers there like a that would be a cop out answer. Those they're a better is are better answer out there? Rally? Sure. So, I mean, when you think of what you can still get, you know, I think you have to rule out online. So I would say generally, like the best pokemon gifts are from pokemon center, but that would take like a week. Yeah, probably longer right now. Other than cards, things that you could like go to his store and buy. I think that Pokemon like mini like Lego set things are super cool. So if yes, so on. Just like generally a fan of Pokemon and also like dabbles in the construction arts of like a Lego and like a blocks. Sure, it was a really fun I'd actually just built I had a couple of like very tiny ones that my friend got me in Japan mclaw machine, and I just I just built them today and they're Super Fun. So I would say something like that. I know they sell those a target. Yeah, I always remember being a fan of the posters I like very distinctly. Yeah, we're two parkers that I had in my room of Pokemon and one in my downstairs basement that I'd like just very distinctly remember them being then being a part of like my growing up, and one of them was like all the second Gen Pokemon, just not a pope. I love those posters.

It's like imagine like if I had one that was maybe a little bit better framed or a little bit more intricate, I guess, or bigger or something like how cool that would be. I don't know, I feel like that's a boring gift, but like I look back and I'm like wow, that was really, really cool, like I remember that, you know. So, yeah, if you're looking for looking for somebody, you know, to to get a gift for, like you can give me a huge pokemon poster. Absolutely. That's going to bring us to the end of the show for today. Again, we sincerely wish you all a happy holiday and Americ Christmas, if you cele about Christmas. We are so appreciative to all the folks who are out there listening and supporting the show. You guys are awesome. As Christmas gift to us, you could rate interview on your favorite podcasting platforms. It does help us out boosts up in that algorithm. And I will say Riley before we go, we are the number two rated podcast in Denmark for the gaming section. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool that. That wasn't like, that wasn't sarcasm. That is pretty cool. So you guys are awesome and clearly you are taking the advice, so I appreciate it. Be Be on the lookout for the giveaway. Will have that posted very soon. Well, it should be if you're listening to this episode. It should be up on the twitter at TAG team pokemon. Never we look forward to seeing you over there on twitter as well. And remember you got until fifty nine, fifty nine eastern standard time on the thirty one to get in there for that giveaway. So be sure to do that and we will catch you all next time, not at the same time but at the same place. Piece see it.

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