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Season 3, Episode 17 · 10 months ago

3-17. The Christmas Episode

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are back- and they are packing another giveaway! Be sure to check us out on Twitter for more! Be sure to have a safe and happy holiday season. 

Yo, what is up everybody welcome backto tag team, the POOKMON trading card games, premier podcasting duo. My nameis Ralei Hobert and I'm joined, as always by my good good friend, JW crewall, JT, fw how's it going today. It's gone great rally, just gearing up forthe holidays, so we're recording on a Tuesday as opposed to our normalWednesday. What's going on injw R, I regret it last week because you're likewe'll be back again the same place. They fly like you literally made apoint I knowi know. I was thinking about that t this earle this morning. Iknow I was Ng it n, because it was on me. It was at me because I was Fplanning, I'm doing a Wednesday, but then I thought I but a little bit moreand I'm going to offer to drive to Maryland tomorrow, so that my wife cansleep or read or do whatever she wants. So I know I'm going to be tired, we'retraveling to visit her parents for he the holiday and so doing a six hour drive. You know in themid afternoon, getting there at around seven and then doing the podcast later.That night, just didn't seem like the best make sense. I have to take myequipment and I'd have to find a you know a room to. I just seemed like alot of logistical things that I didn't quite want to ow rap my mind around, soI kind of want to leave this house and then just forget about a lot of things.Yeah leave your bind kind of thing or five days. Yeah it trutally understand.Sorry, are you planning on doing anything? Fine, while you're inMaryland, with the FAM? Well we're going to meet up with Andrew Mahonethey're, also in Maryland? Well, his family is full yeah. I know I didn'tknow they were goin back or not yeah. They are going back as well. We usuallytry to meet up when we're in Maryland. We have at least at least one othertime, and I rode back one time with Andrew Back to Cleveland. You know,like we've been had up in in Maryland before, but it'll be fun. His parentslive in the like downtown it's like fell's area. You know, people that knowBaltimore will probably be you know, jumping up and down their seats andthen we live or ands family lives in Eliqate city. So we're going to go intoyou, know the inner harbor and maybe meet up with them and walk around andstuff, so I'll, be cool and then family wise and has a sister that lives in theBaltimore area. She works for Johns Hopkins, so we'll be able to see themand her fiance new New Fiance Aso, as of like, certainly within the last sixmonths, so they're always they're, always reallyfun to hang out with Super Fun man. Well, I'm wishing you very well noutrip. Yeah be really good. How about you? I know you're staying at home, butare you doing anything fun over your over your time? You know I got the whole week off ofwork which in if itself is very nice. I got to finally use those vacation days.Yeah I made gingerbread cookies today. Itwas like my activity for the day and that's making Jida breccookies is kindof an involved process. There's like a lot tit goes into them compared to likea normal poocki. It came out. Okay, like they taste,really good, but they look kind of ugly and the reason for that is, I didn't have any cookie cutters really.I had I had Alama and I have a nome and the nome, I think was just I think itwas generically called a Knon, but I'm pretty sure it was the Santa Clauz oneokay, so I like the no one was Santa that Dalama had nothing to do withanything okand. Besides that, I had to cut themout myself right and they just. I think it's just the way I cut things have thesame problem. When I caut paper, I scissorss it just was very jagged andthere's like a lot of those little. You know like little points where you likedrife meets itself again after so they were kind of ugly, but they taste good.So I guess it's all the tratters. I gave all the prettiest looking onesto my friend who's going to be going out of town tomorrow, so wanted to make sure that you know Ispread the love a little bit, because I made a lot moer than I intended to aswell right an I wasa. Always something was that always something that you dida as a kid growing up kind of we usually make like sugarcookies as a kid okay, we never really made gingerbread, but we did do like cookies and icingfor Santa. When I was a kid, so you know I have my cookies for Santa now Ihave a nice little Pika, Chou Cookie, which is very fun it s. It was a goodtime. I really thought that I'd be able to go to the store and buy cookiecutters, because in my mind, the demographic of people who use cookiecutters and the demographic of people who need cookie cutters and, likealready have them, is like the same. Like I figured everyone who needs a Co.You cut er already had one true, but I think my theoryis specifically becauseof the pandemic, a lot more people are like saying and baking that's been likea strend, the whole time and so they're, probably also baking cookies forChristmas, more and so they're buying...

...all the cookie cutters and so they'reallso ee. You should have checked that, like a a dollar store, I feel like thatis a really good place to find a cookie cutter, because I yeah here onlye wortha dollar yeah. I mean the Weretherere a dollar target. I only went to a couplestores before I like Imesty, just got tired of looking for cookie cutters,but there's they were probably somewhere, but they were sold out a lotof like places. You would expect a cookie get her sureth sure, but enoughabout cutting cookies. We got some news to break down for you. We got someexciting upcoming events in the world, tag team and we'm going to share thosewith you so starting off the cast for today we wanted to announce our next giveaway.So last year, for Christmas and new years we had a bullart, Zahan andZamazenta give away. We really enjoyed doing that with you all. We enjoy theengagement and hearing from me all over twitter, and we want to do somethinglike that again. So this year our giveway idavyogemeral, please Di Ndo ee.That isothe word we're going to cllocly, only call it a pokemon starter set so we'll be giving away a combination ofthe Zashi, an v League battledeck, that's the one with ATP and the Zahiansand the core of the ATP ashion deck in there and will also be giving away inconjunction with that. A POKEMON TCG trainers, tool kiss this is one prize,and it really gives you the framework to just jump right into playing in reallife. So I mean you know a lot of you out there, maybe e'veveen playing online. A lotrecently haven't really kept up in the real life scene, which isunderstandable, and we want to give you a chance to kind of, like jump, StartYour collection and get moving. So I think this is really fun. It's reallygives you the framework. You need to get moving and honestly. I think theseare really cool products, so it's super cool to w be able to interact with them.Yeah, and certainly you know, if we're not even back to playing like in thenext, you know. Yeah I mean these are like rotation, O yeah, Ah Yeah exactlyI was going to say these are great cards, for you know into expanded, evenyeah. Even just you know, if you want to have a deck to kind of commemoratethe format. Why not ATP yeah, honestly, like you know, I haven't been followingitto closely: PABLOS like post rotation series, because obviously there's likea lot more sets that are coming out before rotation, yeah, so ure, it's allvery subjing to change was arshanv has been a very big staple. Even then, soyou know having access to Thos is going to be super awesome, so they giveway.Will we post it on our twitter? Make sure you follow us at tag team, Pokemonand just perform the actions in the tweet there and you'll be entered in sothe giveway we'll start right after this podcast drop. So if you'relistening on your podcasting platforms ar onYoutube it'll already be there and it'll go up until the start of the newyear, so you have until December thirty, first at eleven, fifty nine fifty nineto get in there. It's going to be eastern time, so we're looking forward to hear fromyouall yea should be great and huge, shout out to full grup games for helping the podcast out. You know:They've been great allies to JW and myself throughout our pokemon careers.The last couple of years here and helping US manage the legistics of theGI. So thank you to our friends been great, absolutely Yep! THAT'S OUR GIVEWAY! We're excited tohave you all and we want to just give back Hispute of Christmas moving into some other fun topics. Forthe day, though agw your chep chatting for the cast- and it sounds like youbeen keeping your eye peeled for some rogue masterpieces out there andhonestly the ones you wrough. For me I wasn't even super familiar with yea,and maybe that was just my ignorance but talkus through the rogue deck scene.Right now, in the POKEMON trading car game, people seem like kind of e Mattof seems to feel really centralized. When you talk to certain people- and Iwant to give our listeners a chance to Tak ad look outside of our our spher ofine- I mean, of course you know, you always have the you know the lightningMutus, the the Zahendek, the leseplan sensof scorches atturnit. Is You know,etc, etc, but there have been a few other things that have been kind ofputting themselves on the radar first has been. You know there are a fewdecks. Obviously that are you know known quantities, but haven't everreally performed until recently, one of those decks would be mad party, yeah yeah. I have, I have seen mad partmyover the last couple F weeks I mean it hasn't, really ever entered into kindof striking distance of a win, but it's certainly been in that top. Sixteen inyou know bubble for top AIG type position, so we've seen it have acouple of performances. Over the last week, Daniel Tavia was, you know, topsixteen, I believe in a hexster tournament with it, and then we've alsoseen in the league or excuse me in the...

Limalis online series like weeklytournament. It Gods tope sixteen as well, so it just kind of a cool deckthat we've been seeing. You know pop up, and maybe it's now starting to comeinto a little bit more viability now that honestly now that list seem to begetting a little bit more optimized for seeing just as many ball accounts aspeople can possibly fit in as many search aards with the like Poka ballsare starting to come in and like e radars and stuff. So just like gettingas many of those pokamon search cards in as possible, another deck that has been you knowobviously aknown quantity, but you know still is in that. I would say I don'tknow that kind of rogue aspect, because if people teck for it, then it's notthat good. But then, if nobody texs for it, then it goes on to like easily winthe tournament. I think you know what I'm going to say in decidioy. Obstagenyeah absolutely has been. You know a Greay deck for people that arelooking to win tournaments because you're not really seeing a lot ofapposition from opponents deck. Because again it's that, like one or two peopleplaying it in a tournament, and so people drop their counters from theirdecks. Understandably so and then it goes on to sweep because nobody has away around it. So those are a couple decks that are known that havecertainly had you know some motorcum of success in the past that we've beenseeing recently another one personal kind of favoredmind because it includes you know a regional winning card is realboomBrillboom, with the alolan executor of rolet yeah yeah has been doing doing.Okay, I mean it got a top for placement ATS, a at a hegster tournament over t elast week, which is great so I mean Rillaboom I feel like has never. Idon't know. If you can speak to this, it's never felt like it could evercrack. Like kind of I agree, you know, tear one viability but, and I don't necessarily see anythingunique about the list th by Cornzelta. That is any you knowanything super special or anything unique, but it is worth noting that it,you know, has kind of been in the mix for, like top thirtytwo placements, pretty consistently in this format, and this seems to be atleast fror my memory, the highest placement that it's had in in in forever yeah. Why do you thinkRillaboom is all of a sudden? You know getting so much play hard to say I mean I think, like youjust look at the cards inside like it's made up of good cards. You know theRillaboom deck is made up of good cards like the rollenal. execator is like agood card on face value and the deck also really relies heavily a double,which is another just good card. Ofbois. Definitely a good guard yeah. You know,and there are a lot of decks, that you know honestly struggle with double justnoon of itself yeah. So that's just generally a good card for prize trades,especially into tag teams, and then you know you have like Shaman prisom star,which is a just a good card like it's based like a one prizer that couldpotentially one shot fair Trueso for your treat. You know so it's made up ofall these good cards. You know. So it's not like it's not like it's coming outof left field, necessarily but yeah that that you know it. Justfinally, maybe is seeing you know either the right pilot or just gettingthe right breaks. You know where I can succeed, so we had one other one that I wanted tomention, and I am Oh yes, yes, yes, okay in the again in the hegstersixteen tournament, the number seven placement is a seeking deck, which ispretty unique, using well unique in the sense that we haven't seen it in this format, but right using the rippinghorn seeking, along with the glimwood tangle, to try to disrupt your opponent,discard all their energies. And then you guss something active on theirbench as they're, trying to recover their resources and you lock them outof the game with like a crag and all or they just can't retreat, because you'vegotten rid of all their options so that one's another really interestingdeck, really cool dhatk got seven place at this tournament. YEA, that's crazy!I feel like seeking's been, you know, hard meme for a while now, and you know,that's actually getting success recently, so yeah apparently I've beenseeing. You know, I saw somebody posterwas in a it, was in a twitch chator something le'e like. Why am I running into so many seeking decks onthe ladder today? That's funny yeah, so I want to diveinto some of these little bit more. You know mad parties, I mean, I think,t the both the success and the build of...

...mad party kind of shacks. For me, I'mI'm still definitely a fan of mad party. I think it actually trades pretty a lotof dacks. I want to dive into decisiony a littlebit more. I feel like there's been some debate about how decitubat should beplayed. You specifically called on obstacn why I want to Tik into this alittle bit, because I feel like there's a lot of people who would er on theside of just playing Decidui and cutting out throug you line completelyand do you have som thoughts, one way or another about how youw prefer thedeck to be played? It's just so hard for a significantnumber of decks to get out of the obstaclen lock that it seems kind of it seems in poor form not to play anObstaclin line. I have done more testing with obstagon in the Decidia Ideck them without. So I think I'm a little biased there, but you know youjust have like no shot at beating a like a blasephlon deck or a Centoscorch deck, and I don't think you're reallysacrificing all that much to include it. I mean obviously you're. You know atleast three, maybe even four cards. If you go a two O two line of Obstergon soyou're taking that away from you know the consistency that Decidiuali couldbring, but you know you're gaining like a large matchup, spread that youotherwise wouldn't just wouldn't have access to. So I think it's worth it ina lot of cases to be able to Hedg your bets against of widear variety of decksthan to kind of don't know even more auto win the decksthat you probably should win anyway. That makes sense. Tso, specifically, you know. In thecase of obticing, you caught out there three four cards that usually t toaccommodate that right to get those twozero two lines: Yeah and thenobviously you would have to adjust the energy accounts, but soy in a morestraightforward kind of decidioi build. What do you think are the cards thatyou know have to be cut or if you're trying to go from obstagan to Om orstraightforward build, you know what was you ad in that's I mean honestly, that's a reallygood question. If you're, going from like a if you're going from a straightor if you're, going from an obstage and decidiuite into a straight DECISIONIVand you're, obviously adding like more of the consistency cards like you canadd up. You Know Your Fourth Rosa your fourth like birdkeeper. If you're onlyplaying three, you cald potentially play another boss, which is obviouslyone of the weaknesses of any of those lockstyle decxes that they don't have aton of access. They don't have a ton of space to put in the gust cards thatthey yeawise. You know t that pretty much every other deck plays, and youknow three or four counts so yeah that is, that is one of the weaknesses ofthe deck is that they just don't have a lot of access to the opponent's bench.Not You know you see a lot of these lists. They have one boss's orders,maybe to they rarely including Greay catcher. So, U know if you wanted to go from an obs togenin lest take out theAPSTICAN line. You know maybe consider another boss's orders just give you alittle bit more reach. You also have you know things like more consistencyright so, like the decidion APS, scoon that I profiled on my youtube channelthe other day had a well. I guess it was today, but you know it ha it kind of skimped onthe setup Pokemon, so you're, playing like a to Geraci to snorelax line, andif you were to you know, cut the Obstagoan. You could probably go up to.You know three, maybe even for GARAC. It's that kind of thing where you're,sacrificing that consistency for a little bit better matchup spread if yougo with the obstagoon as opposed to without the obstacle for sure, and it's funny the offcskin. Obviously,W helps pick off those Vulcanians, particularly in Thecenti sporch matchup,but the utert one of the other decks. We listen the road deck I would thinkof as having a traditionally pretty por any serch matchup and that's the realboom deck. How do you think Rilliboum is like sliding into success in ametagame that we originally thought would be dominated by Fenis carce yeah?Well, I think you look at you know the power of like it's like. How doesPekeron beat colossal right the on the back of a Mutu right, H and sosimilarly like? How does grass beat fire? I mean on the back of Mutue to anextent you're not generally playing as many like you're, probably playing likeone, maybe to mutue and your Realla boomlest, but then you're also ridingdouble for all she's worth trying to try to get as much use out ofthat double as possible. Yeah. Potentially, the two doubles that youhave so yeah. Certainly a deck like that, likeI you're putting your opponents in a tough position right if you're playingfire, because you have this energy accelerator, that's grass. But theweakness isn't really that big of an issue, because it is only a one prizePokuma on the rillaboom right, and so you know it'. You put your opponentinto a weird position where they're like okay, do I gussed tup their energyaccelerator or do I swing into their double and the active and like? Maybeyou can't even one shot the Doub Woll and it's you know hitting you for heavydamage? And so you know, you create a...

...lot of interesting scenarios for sureagainst firedecks attracts for me facts for me. So, let's,let's hit on that lastect then, and that's the seeking deck. In your opinion, what is one additionthat we could make to the seeking deck to make it extra special and extraspicy extra spicy seeking deck man? That is. That is a good question.I don't know that I that I thought about that e. It sounds like you havesomething in mind. Le Give Me Idon't. I really I really don't harder. I reallydon't. I just Sai, I feel like you wereplaying seeking you'R, already kind of like trying to be spicy right so yeah,you know what so what's othe. What's the Oll pis that you can add to thisultimate spice, yeah, that's a that's a good question! I mean it's hard to say you're going in withthis like alternate, this alternate windstrat of just discarding all their energy ona one prize pokemon. You know it's like how much more spicy can you get? Well,I guess just let us know on twitter if you have any any spicy ideas forseeking just tweeto us at taxing Pokemon we'd love to hear it. So if you were going to go to atournament and you had to play a rogue deck and you're Gong to have fun what Roge deck would you take with you?Well, I find mad party to be really fun. I find that deck. Just you know, yeah,just really. You know you- and you didn't tell me to say this by the wayright, but I've party to be fin because it obviously it reminds me of ourcompany play theass night March, obviously so oay, so that would be the be the deck that Iwould take if I was just really gone for fun. If I know l actually, if Ireally wanted to go for fun, I would probably take some kind of weird stalldeck that revolved around Galarian or a Lolan muck yeah. I, like t KOOPA, bet chains. Iguess that would be the spice that you could put in seeking, no and now thatwe finally got to it. That would probably be the SPICICOU Putin seekingtry to likeare switches and stuff, but yeah. I would probably bring somethingweird around that if I was like truly like just had no cares, which honestlyis never going to be the case because I, like never have a tim ter super tryhards. Whenever I go to an online tournamentlike I got to try to win this thing, and I got to try to put my Ale to it.So yeah it sens to me cool. So, let's jump right in Thentoour cart of the day. So obviously do it. This week is the week of Christmas, and you know someone in chat or someonelistening. You know feel free to factus. Go a sun tetter. If we did this thewrong order because we lost fack Wen, we had so ye. I think it's supposed tobe me, but then, when you said you had a you had a Christmas card or Christmasthemed card, I was like okay, they onet o. It doesn't really matter, and Iguess it depends like if you consider Celio selving it earth. If you consider,why did I say, Celio Ture, if youconser chip selving in forus or if you can, I consider chip like Slougting in right, yeah right so anyway, crose this week is obviouslygoing to be Christmas teame and at first I was scrolling through delibirdcarbs to try and find a good one of those. That seems too obvious to me. Iso I gradofi something a little more interesting and the card I found. Isn'ta traditional card? Isn't the card you can play I at deck, but it is a POKONcard. So in Japan there is an exclusivePRONMO. Pokeman did this with Toys Aras for a Christmas phere and it is so cool.It is a jumbo card and it's got Pikachu and all the hoen starters and there's asnowman sideup in the background and there's presents everywhere and there'slike this Christmas kind of arches. It's just a beautiful card. Honestly-and you know it's got that Nice, like Japanese, great border, a little toysrust stamp on there and it's a promo that happens sometime in the xvy block.I tried to learn more about this, an Kn. I really struggled to like find goodinformation on this card. There is a couple listings on Ebay and they're offfor quite a bit of money, so it's super cool honestly. I justthought this part as beautiful, and I wanted to call it out specifically so an you post that in the any kind of website that you found with the card,because I'm interested- and I did like a quick search and I couldn't find itoff first glance: Yeah I'll post, the evay len you put in the and shuttingthe chat on switch okay. So if anyone is interested, you can click on thatand if you have a thousand dollars lying around, you can buy it Oyah ver.So that's pretty insane. That looks amazing yeah and it's a Gemmo card, butI think it's super cool because it Juma car with the Japanese back. I don'tknow why. Ut that's like for cool to me...

...and I would if I had just like athousand dollars to for it's like the kind ofseuous you're half way there. It's besossing! It's super awesome. If I had just like a three thousanddollars, I would definitely buy that O Yoa you're getting the stimulus right.I know that's six hundreds out of it tell you what Ei will send you mine andthen you by the card and then we can like have dual custody of it. So, likethen, a fel ship to me for like half the year and then I'll ship it back toyou. I will just kind of I feel like whoever gets it for the Christmas halfof the year. Ias like Ba Youright, okay, we'll train it by years. Then wetit about years. You get in Therey, copicated custodyagreeent, I feel like. I would rather just pay hahousdlars than think aboutthat. So that's the car of the day. It's nota car to can play in any sort of deck, but it is very, very cool so and it's the most Christmasy Ard, Ithink in all the Fokmon. That's for sure, Promi Dideri delaverd with apresent attack. Sure that's amazing, yeah super cool. Looking ahead, though, there is stillpokgemon events in the future here, so popll that I wanted to specificallycall out today was the GG tour rkement. So is I a Thek prize pool? I feel likenormally like a big ticket prize. Bool is one K yeah. You know, obviously thistripling that EA, so pretty substantial amount of money on the line here, fivedollar O- I don't know where they're getting I mean. I just don't know thatthe numbers add up really I mean I'm not G, be operating at aloss on this Ou knowthis for Oh yeah. For sure I mean that's, that's what Iimagine I just it seems like o thing. The Ar Liery, it just seems veryinteresting, like the the numbers just seem so far off that noand, it's not a it's, not a like ait's, not a neatio. You know I'm not trying to like throw shade on them. Ijust like it's impressive, for you know. There's forty four players registeredright now, presumably they've all registered at the half price discount.You know you've seen a lot of creators that are like please UST. My Code,normally the entry fee, is tendoars, but we've reduced it to fivedollars. Solet's say that you know there's forty four people at fivedollars, a piecethat's nowhere near threesand, so I mean I'm sure they're going to havemany many more people sign up, but that even still you would need you know. I mean you Ryou're, a math guy riley like how many people would you need to average thethree thousand, if they're, all paying yeaabe five dollar. Obviously, you needthree hundred at at ten siten, six hundred five yeah. So it's just interesting yeah. It isinteresting, but obviously there's a lot on the line there so be sure to getyour practice in if Youe looking to take home. Some of that massive prizepool yeah, it's great, it's great five hundred dollar for first place. That'samazing! It is Tuper cool it Fu. If you were going to play in the GG tourtomorrow, what would you bring with you yeah? Ithink I'm the most comfortable with a PKAROM deck that may ar may not include Meu to I thinkyou could go either way. I would probably include at least one just togive a at least a hope in like a colossal base matchup, but I don'tthink you necessarily need it by any means. So pegaram is just kind of thedeck that I would at this point in the game. I would just kind of ride or diewith it's proven itself pretty much time andtime again. It seems like for a big tournament like this. It covers enoughmatchups that your you don't ever really feel out of a game and with adeck like that, you can play yourself out of bad situations with the autoparalyze and the reset stamp combination, you're, never truly out ofa game and even with like a tag bolt right, like you're you're, never goingto be just completely blown out to the point that you know you have no moveslike you're, always going to be able to play the game with the energyacceleration and the just the built inconsistency. So I like a deck likethat for a big tournament, yeah, I'm inclined to agree, I mean, obviously, Ifeel like it's plus surprising for me, because I have been kind of standing befrom the last couple weeks here. It's definitely my go to deck right now,especially for the larger the event yeah. I think in events that are goingto be larger, presumably and have a more diverse metagame. You want to beable to spread yourself out as much as possible and Pekaron really is a gooddeck for that. The combination of just really powerful attacks and either likesist, an acceleration with the more...

Bolton heavy, build or just focusing oncrushing Hamers and having that destruption. Both strategies are reallygood against a lot of different decks and I think Peker Rom is one of thosedecks hat's really good at keeping down like mystery decks. Yes, yeah! That'sGreat Yeah! That's a really good point, so Pekram is definitely one of thosekind of decks. That's really effective against things that you might notnecessarily expect with the Ecceptan things that areexplicitly like made tobe pfor. Um Yeah, like Don Fan- maybe you know you're, probably going to havea hard time with that one yeah, but I definitely agree with your at least oneof you to seems like a really good choice. Right now. I think colossal isreally just been kind of rising and even getting like one chance to get anice clean hit with him Youtub, it seems pretty valuable. You know, besides the fact that, likeyou can pray on coossals and her inconsistencies, sure, and you knowoverall, I's just a solid archetype all the way through it always has been. Youknow, since the are dropped, so can't really complain. So you know, but ifwe're both on Pekerom, what's O, like our second string, choice o like to bedromas yeah for mean for me, it'd be again at this other, like you thinkabout you're, going into presumably a big tournament, I would. I wouldimagine that there would be like at least four hundred probably closer tofive hundred people there, like, if I hand to just give a guestbased on pass tournaments, and then it also being Christmas break, of course,but you know again you're going to this bigtournament. You want to make sure that you are playing a consistent deck, soI'm generally going to shy away from a deck like decidioin obstagoand,although that would be a good choice. You're just generally goin Na you know not maybe not set up, as wellas like as a big tag team deck. So I would air towards something like. If I had tochoose the second string, Tha could probably be a turnjust just having thatyeah same actually the same here, theyre just on the samepage today, O really okay yeah. I would air towards the turniis just becauseyou're going to be doing what you do. You know. Ninety percent of the timeyou blow out the tag teams, which are just just a huge point in this Matagame right now, they're just like tag teams are just running it and so I'd bevery comfortable. Taking a turnithis as well for sure was you play a poisonvariant or a March deiht forward ar it yeah I've? Obviously swapped betweenthe two. I think a lot of people have like just the preference for dex haschanged and I would go for a straight bariant with a significant counter to Zamazanta. Iwould make sure that I would play at least like to Speiri Tom, or you know,a one or two SABL. I just making sure that I have my basis covered when itcomes to a card lege, Zamazenta ee, but I would yeah I would not go the poisonroud just because that is a little less consistent when you're looking to justyou know trying to get up to that turn two twod and seventy against the TAGteam deck. I think that's where you really are going to shine with the decklike eternities make sense to me yeah. I I'm inclined to agree. I just want toplay some. The consistent, a large event and playing a shape forward versionseems to me the way do that Riley, you have. I mean you have the time.Presumably, are you going to play in this event? What datedoes? It actually start? It'son the twenty six is like swits, Oh and then it's a two day event. Maybe theonly thing like kind of stopping me is I'm watching same friend who is leavingtown. I am watching their cats or the next couple days, so I'll have just abunch of cats and hur cats or kittens socan kind of like pay attention tothem, as opposed to mine, which I just like.Let Roam, especially because my cats will be uncomfortable with the editionof Kittens you know, so I don't want there to be like any turf wars oranything Gokay. Okay, that's like only think Gisney Pawse, otherwise I likeotherwise, I probably will stop by You know: Veo Rama Swing Yeah at be great. Iwould love to se compete. I probably will not be playing just you know withfamily and stuff. It just gets harder and harder to playan online tournaments for me. I wish I had the time you know, but I did actually play in a tournament notto go too far off track on the the GG tour coming up, but I did actuallyplain a tournament this last week the Limalis online series and I played ATPand it was not a good time actually am just like I'm pretty sure, I'm just offof suggesting ATP to player. I hate playing ATP yeah, not fun yeah, I meanI know we're giving it away it's like literally our giveaway. I think it'snot necessarily a bad dict, but I'm like for me I'm just off of it, becauseit feels so much like the Games Y. U W, and this is theproblem with t e, the problem with the format. If you find that there areproblems as like, it really boils down to. How many turns is the gameinteresting and with the DECLLA ATP the game? You know you pretty much knowwhat's going to happen in that first,...

...one or two turns right. If you don'tget the turn to who alter creation like you're, probably not winning, becauseyou're- probably not going to be able to use your attack and start to powerup bench pokemon, although you can still win, even if you don't do that,but you know, and then it's just you know,Hethere's, not a lot of interesting turns with the deck, so it hasn'treally gripped my attention as a deck that I would you know, really want to play for abigger event. No, I totally understand that sentiment. I do think, while ADP doesn't typically have a veryinteresting tempo of turns, like the Great Ey pop playeris, do make the deckinteresting sure I forget Surewho. It was on the Players Cup stream, but theythey had this really fascinating route and sometimes I they would forgo thealtar creation just because they knew they're hitting into two tag. Teamsregardless and like things like that that just really separate the good fromthe great atke players and the good from the great players in general o know, I don't want to downplay likethe deckes penominally good, just not for mme. I think I feels yeah and there'r.certainly there's certainly things you can do with a list to to. Maybe youknow make it a little bit interesting or unique. You Know Thereare, certainlytech cards whou can include obviously like agslash or Crushian hammers orwhatever you want like. There are ways to make it your own, but yeah. I've just found generally likeI'm, either losing the game in the first to terents or I'm like souldly incontrol in the first treeturns theres, not just there's. There Hasn' been aton that I've found where I can fineggle my way out of a bad situationor on the other. You know on the other side like that, I ever lose after thatdominating start, so for sure, there's one other event that I want tospecifically call out and that's going to be the next iteration of the playerscut players cup. Three, an it's going to be kicking off here in Anuary Joe. If you haven't already taken alook at that be sure to check out POKEMON's website, it has some of themore fine details. It's really structured pretty much the exact sameas Players Cup to. I think that villagistic backend for TTg is actuallythe exact same for month. Obviously, true, Yesr andobviously vivid voltage will be legal for the qualification period, so goh JW,looking ahead towards the qualification period and approaching that and I'm notputting off the tarp for this, for the reason that you're liy smiling aboutright. But generally, I am curious, like whatyour thoughts are about like Ow, how you would recommend going about this.We talks last year about what is the best time to qualify and we kind ofyeah we kind of agreed like somemher towardsthe start middle area. It's probably the right time. Yeah was you approach with a similar strategy? Thistime, do you think or how would you like, recommend you O go Iti, know fromPlayers Cup to yeah? Would I change or Stayah, and I can I'll get myexperience as well, I'm curious, so you thought yea firs. Now I mean I thoughtthat that the way that I approached it was pretty good. I felt, though, that I you know it just. There were timeswhere it was like it was kind of for me. I would get into these slidesand it would just be kind of frustrating to get out of the slides,and then there was like the last ten tournaments. Where I knew I was like onthe I finished with somewhere around eighty one points. I think it wasn'tlike the cutoff was eighty nine I think so like I was towards the end. I waslike in the mix, but I knew it was going to be like I had to win. You knowpretty much every tournament towards the last like ten tournaments, and you know, that' just was frustratingmentally to to do that and then o sit around andactually watch. All the other results come in was also kind of mentallydraining. So I think I had a good. I think I had a good like route for thePlayers Cup to incent, in the sense that I did it early or like in themiddle, but it was. I think that rout is really good. If you are, you knowwinning a lot of tournaments early because then you know you have to ifyou're, if you're in that mix, but you're not solidly guaranteed, and youfinish all your keys early, then you have to wait around, for you know twoor three weeks until everyone else finishes and then you're like just Idon't know for me, that's like kind of frustrating to see everyoneelse posting their stuff and it's you know hey. I got a hundred and twentypoints at these tournaments. I'm like Pangin Dude, like I finished with Ed,like what am I doing out here. You know and yeah there for me. Like my, I don'tknow mental health. I don't have you know mental health problems butlike for the how good I felt about myperformance, like I may this time, try to just do it kind of towards the endso that I don't have to wait around so...

...long. Let's see everyone else'sperformances and how they compare to mine right because, like if I justdon't start until the last week, then everyone else's performance is like. Icould potentially do thaterinto like myrso yeah. It's like nobody deal, butthen, if I see that you know they got, you know forty more points that I didlike what the heck. You know that's messed up. ND, then IA waitanother three weeks for the tournaments O be over Itas frustrating I totally get whereyou're coming from. I think I would overall, I wouldreiterate th the tips that we gave around the first time period, but Iwould av iould to go at a Cavia kind of echoing what you say. So I think, ifyou're looking to just cruise through and like plow through your keys going somewhere and like the secondweek, is going to be the time for you in terms of you'll, probably have theeasiest time getting through the events and it'll just be a good time to grindif you're the kind of person, though that needs a lot of extransicmotivation or like W, is aluding to like the waiting aspect of it is. It isstressful, like no doubt, especially if you're sitting aroundlike a potentially on safe margin. So if you're someone who either needsthet, actrions, ik motivation or just isn't going to buy into that stress, Iwould say like do it towards the end like and knowing which one is best for you,I think, is ultimately a consistentto makes for yourself, I M or just like,do it casually throughout the whole time? You know at's another Esonstrategy, that's kind of that's kind of what Iwanted to do last time, but I just got like addicteddepressing play again on the tournament state. It is I mean it is really reallyaddicting and anyone that played in Players Cup to I think is going to youknow kind of resonate with that. So yeah, it's just so like. Even whenyou win when you lose like you just want to go, run it back yeah, becausewhen you're hot you're like okay well, I must be you know. Something must begoing. My way like the algorithm must be. You know shuffling right for me oryou know, I'm just playing really out of my goard and I on know if you'rejust losing you're like well. I can't lose like this. You know it's likeyou're in the gym right, you're playing basketball and you know you throw upthe last shot and it goes off and you're like well. Okay, I can't leaveon a miss, so I got to go, make another shot. You know it's that kind of thing,so yeah taking some soul. Some other steps there, though building off of that further, if you do lose, try not to do salty runbacks. You know, take a couple minutes at least and refresh you know, even ifit's simple is like going your bathroom and like throwing some water in yourface and then coming back and sitting down like take that step and refreshyourself as opposed to going untilted and then the other tip I would give is don't get completely psyched out bylike strieks in one way or the other, be like picking a deck that you'recomvetint with and sticking with it, at least until it's like, obviously, justnot a good choice. You know, if you're, which is like a tough, it's tough toknow if it's Letng, not a metric. That's like you can't mess that yeah.It is really tough to know. I mean like a lot of this is just trusting your testing. You know yeah,but I would say like overall, like sticking with a deck you'll get abetter outcome. That way because you'll, I would say ultimate like the variancewill be less impactable if yo stick with one deck right, because let's sayyou know, let's say I switchdecks for every single round and you know playingMeny scorch one round and I just like Oughtto lose to some water deck, and sothen I switch to Pekrom, and then I get a colossal dack and then I switch tolike some water deck and I get wrecked by RILLABOO. And it's like you know, ifyou just play Pikarom for all five of those, then you would have probably hada decent winday, but because you switched around so much you likeincrease the variance that you're experiencing right, because you wereadding various to yourself in addition to the parents of the other peopleright so right sure, that's kind of like the point I would emphasize thereis like try. Ind Try and find something that works for you and likes just stickwith it yeah, that's what I fon work for me islike if you do want to have multiple decks. Just like you know so, you'renot slogging away at one deck of the whole time have like a pool of Dackthat you're confident with and keep yourself within, that pool, yeah sure,Youall, Sur you'll be more successful, yeah exactly, and I mean I think, evenwith the with the best players like if they're like you were saying in thatscenario where it's like. Okay, I lost my like an auto loss that it shouldhave lost to you know, and then you immediatelyswitch a deck like there's, there's going to be yeah thatinherent like kind of unstabinstability with that new deck ofknowing exactly what to do- and you know just generally speaking playingyou know, more games with a deck is going to yield better results likeYoure, exactly exactly the don't, introduce more people, Poton playerslove to complain about Variante, don't inject variance into you,...

...dyou a yeah! That's true! Yea! That's like your Dexas, something you haveyour drol over, don't make it variant right right! That's my take at least so we'll talk more about players, copthree, as we get closer to the qualification period as while be sureto give you the latest met of snap shots and what we plan to use. Yo Getthrougr our keys, but that brings us right on to the endof the episode here today. JW is any parting Christmas wisdom that you wantto give to our listeners yere parting Christmas wisdom. Well, I just thinklike continue to be good citizens on you know the ladder or on I don't know in tournaments. I thinkyeah, I've seen from my perspective, like really great people in terms of sportsmanship andcompetitive drive, and it's been nice to see. Certainly, I almost feel likefrom my perspective- and I maybe could be wrong on this, like maybe otherpeople have had way different viewpoints on this, but I felt like theonline scene on the whole has been a lot more positive than the in person scene. You know why. That is why I feel thatway. I can't quite put my finger on, but I feel, like you know, justcontinuing to keep up that positive energy towards the game. Continuing tosupport these tournaments and organizers that are putting on thesetournaments and trying to make pokemon great despite the circumstances is, isa really big deal. So if you are doing that, continue to do that, if you'renot doing that, why not you know ans ourself theirquestions? Yeah Yeah continue to be good to each other and continue to helpgrow. The game yeah and I would say, like extend that beyond the game tolike be good to the people around you, especially in the sphere of theholidays, but throughout the year as well. I would hope, yeah sure, of course, of course, oneofthe thing I want to say bfor you grap up today. I know this is probably goingto be a different or weird holiday experience for many of our listenersknowng. Maybe you weren't able to travel to meet your family or yourfriends, I'm sure that's difficult for a lot ofpeople, and so I just want to like blankets at the offer like if you needsomeone just to chat with. You know, you're more than welcome to like DMS ontwitter or DM myself, like bacebook or Insta, O I'm happy to like sit down andchat and wish you marry Christmas and happy holidays not trying to be married to Christmas year, like nomatter what you celebrate. We want to wish you a happy season and a happy endto your year here so overall, like try, Ang, take it andstride and lean into the awesome community that we do have you know JWcalled out how Asito the online's fear has been recently and I'm sure, there'sall sorts of online folks who are going through similar situations Ho wouldlove to talk to you Yep, absolutely absolutely it's a hard time for a lotof people for a number of reasons. You know it it just it is what it is.The you know. You've heard it in every probably every piece of media that youconsumed. You know people are just struggling right now, just for avariety of reasons, so yeah you're, not alone in that you're. Not You know you don't need to feel asthough you're alone and like Raley said Werewe're here. If we can be we're here,for you absolutely we'll take one questionbecaus. I think we got a really good one in the chat here and then we'llsign off for the day. Soys Zor Dad gx dropping what are some good pokmin giftideas that we can still find other than cards. You Haver you any thoughts thatcome to mind for you. Po Ideas. Well, like I mean plushies,are a huge thing in Pokemon, so yeah. That would probably be my number oneanswer. Is there like a that would be a copout answer? Those there are a bettereserr batter answer out there rally sure. So I mean when you think of whatyou can still get. You know. I think you have to rule out online, so I wouldsay generally like the best pokmon gifts ore from pokamon center, but thatwould take, I yeah probably longer right now other than cards things that you couldlike go to a store and by I think the Pokmon, like many like Legoset. Things are super cool. So if you has, someone is like generally a fan ofPokmon and also like dapples in the construction arts of like Lego and Negablocks Sur. It was really fun I actually just built. I had a couple oflike very tiny ones that my friend got me in Japan, mcclaw machine, and I justI just built them today and they 're Super Fun. So I would say somethinglike that. I know they sell those a target yeah. I always remember, being afan of the posters. I like very distinctly eer two poathers that I hadin my room of Pokmon and one in my downstairs basement that I'd like justvery distinctly remember them being them being a part of like my growing up.One ofthem was like all the second Gen Pokmon just on Upyeaer I love thosefoasters is like imagine like. If I had...

...one that was maybe a little bit betterframed ar a little bit more intricate, I guess or bigger, or something likehow cool that would be. I don't know I feel, like that's aboring gift, but, like I look back and I'm like wow, that was really lly cool,like I remember that you know so yeah I youelooking for looking for somebody.You know to get a gift for, like you, can give me a huge pokamop poster. Absolutely that's going to bring us to the end ofthe show. For today again, we sincerely wish you all a happy holiday and amarry Christmas. If you celebrate Christmas, we are so appreciative toall the folks who are out there listening and supporting the show. Youguys are awesome. As Christmas gifts us, you could rate interview on yourfavorite podcasting platforms. It does help us out boos up in that algorithmand I will say Riley before we go. We are the number two rated podcast inDenmark for the gaming section. That's pretty cool, that's really cool thatthat wasn't like Owan't Sarcassin, that is pretty cool yeah, so you guys areawesome and clearly you are taking the advice. So I appreciate it be be on thelookofter, the giveaway we'll have that posted very soon. Well, it should be ifyou're listening to this episode, it should be up on the twitter at tag teampokemon. Ever we look forward to seeing you over there on twitter as well andremember. You got until eleve an fifty nine, fifty nine eastern standard timeon ate thirty first to get in there. For that give away, thatll be sure todo that and we will catch you all next time, not at the same time, but at thesame place peace see Yit.

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