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Tag Team Pokemon TCG Podcast

Season 2, Episode 26 · 1 year ago

2-26. Vika No Bulu

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The boys are ready to sit down and lay out the path to winning the Pog Championships. Come check out the best decks and figure out whether it's better to go first or second (how often is THIS a debate?!).

Hey at's up everybody walking back totag team, the POKMON trading car games for mear podcasting duo. My name isRali holvert joined by my good friend, Ju Kree L, dw how's it going today.It's gone very well Rilih. How are you man? I am doing great- I gotta saywhat's new, that you're doing great, I mean nothing. You know I'm justthriving. I was listening to. I don't remember what it was. I waswatching a video the other day and this guy was talking about like working out and his mentality around it,and this is this is't going to be so like crazy motivational thing, but hewas thinking like your mind set around it shouldn't be like Oh, I want toachieve this body type or I want to like lose x amount of weight. It shouldbe like. Oh I respect and love myself and like I want to do that for myself. You know like Activelye, self, Lov andsout care, so yeah I've been trying to like put myself in that mind, set overthe last week, Um and like so when I when clean my apartment or I'm workingout like I'm thinking like I'm doing this for me, like, as I feel betterthan doing it, I'm sure a I I felt like better and happier has that, so thathas helped your mental space. I think so I mean you know obviousl, it's justa short about time. I gues t could just be an up week for me, you know but I'vee feeling good, and I think you know your mentality is part of it. At least I definitely went through. I mean I,you know the mentality thing like in middle school. Like I remember I usedto be very just this is not life advice F. First of all,this is not like. I'm not I'm not trying to trying to tell anyone what todo just full disclosure, but I was y. u, I was just very like angry and kind ofsad child. I don't know weird like anxstersure and then I just like oneday I was like. I could be sad but then like. If I'm choosing to be sad andangry and like I could just be happy right, a a then that's, not any preyouprapasy with his to that's a fol yeah, an I've ie shage with like depressionin my whole life, I'm on Ow, I take a Shn like I have my own, like mentalhealth care it as worse. I like just readjusting my mind sed for, like youknow, why am I working out and eating well and doing all these things? Well,it's not so much because I want to be an idonist which you know. Obviously Ido have like a goal body type and like all those things but and you are in iton but like I want to. I want those things for myself because, like I careabout myself and that's where that's like the root of it and framing it inthat way, is healthier for you. U Y I've actually never thought of thatyeah and it's something that I personally can relate to, because Ihave a lot of like body image issues and Ting 'cause. They fluctuate a lotlike you know, one I'll look at myself and I think, Oh, you know you'reprathetic and really skinny and ugly, and then you lk at yourself like laterthat day and you're, like oh you're, like fat, disgusting and so like I'm trying to refrain from that. I sadokay, so yeah yeah, that's really profound yeah. It is so you know a little lifeadvice splashed into your Pokama content, but g know whatever you'redoing doit for you right like do it because you like it and enjoy it, andone thing that I really enjoy is pokon training card game. Ltell me: That's not the segway of thecentury welld before we get too deep into it. I was talking with someonethis morning and he was telling me that he has been listening since day, one tothe podcast and he was telling me that when we were just on you too only hewould download the video cut. The you know, Contavidioso is just audio andthen he'd have that as his pod cast allow o on the way to work and so Alexif you're listening. Just I told you this morning, like love the dedicationso happy that we cal make this for you and that you're enjoying all thecontent that we produce and yeah that just like Ma, I felt like you shouldhear that that is, that's sepre call.

So it's it's very cool. WE HAVE UM we're coming up on the end of this. Youknow season yeah. I was thinking about that like just yesterday actually howwe're effectively. You know wedecided last year that we're going to divy it up it, seasons like marking thecompetive seasons and technically you know, even though I doesn't really feellike it were at the end of the line here for Qoico season too yeah it',Pretty Wild. I mean season three. We get to put that up. There I mean nowit's really certaing to feel like if it wasn't already a commitment. You knowit's starting to feel like that aeing a lot of kind of stuff under our belt. I mean we've donea lot of things and I think we're kind of seeing that too, like you're, justseeing a lot of other people, try to podcast and not to say that we're likethe genesis of it, but we've certainly been the most consistent over thecourse of the last three years and two years and M. that's something to beproud of for sure. So just thank you again to the fans, ifyou guys aren't already plugged into our communities and C go over to twitchand where it twitched ot TV, slash, monner, that's where we do. The potcastlive every Wednesday at nine, thirty eastern and then I amon twitch tha TV,slash, flex, daddy righteous, and then we have our twitter over a Tang team.Pokamon pod cast, which is, is a great thing, greagory SARS to follow as wellso very cool. All that said, let's happen to Pokaman discussion. We have you, know the end of the season soeffectively we would have. You know all been in London right now. Yeah E erldwasn't flipped on its head and we would be you know, frantically trying tofigure out the bust four worlds, and so do you feel like, even though I mean,even though we're not in London right now, even though we're nout in Englandd, You feel like the Medigane is shifted to a point that we have kind ofseen the cream rise to the top. So it's a little interesting. I I don't know if I have a great answerto the initial question, but I'm just kinda thought domb for a second Yepi.Just I feel like pocasters. Do that all the time and I'v just got Ta outrightto say that I'm going to do this straight up, I love it. Lov It he'sgoing to go Ontan I'm going to let you roll ry, so I have I've noticed first and foreostlike I just want to call out. So many people have mentioned that like this isthe time when worlds would be happening and how much they miss everyone Um, andI do feel that to an extent, but I almost didn't even notice that so muchtime had passed that, like now was going to the world until other peoplecalled it out like there wasn't like a pit in my stomach like Oh, I hould tobe a world right now. It's like, I saw other people and it as like. Wait asecond like it's actually been six months. We've been living like that, but yea t's, that's a complete design. Do I think the Meta has completelydeveloped. I think it's kind of in a weird spot, because there isn't reallyan ficial substitute for the world championship, there's not somethingthat the communiis fully unified on and behind an Atbin at. I think the largestsubset of that is going to be that pog championship right, and we mentioned itin passing a couple of times from the cast. It's got a pretty large playerbase. I was checking Ino discord today, therewas like seventeen hundred peoplein there or something maybe it's over two thousand- I I don't it depends onhow they do the numbers on discord. Itas, like five hundred off line andlike seventeen hundred was the second number. I don't know if that was totalor offline. So it's either. I said the ball park. If seventy hundred and twothousand um Y that's a lot of people tat is- and you know, mad props- to theouthe scaming folks who are h are working on that M. do I think that the Meta has progressto that end, Game Um? I want to say no to be honest and the reason I say thatis toofold Um. So at worlds we saw them at up progress pretty far, but eventhen it still didn't reach the end game. I don't think of that. Forat we gotclose like we got a lot of the...

...archetypes eere there lisimer there andthat's like the best players in the world labbing. For you know, some of them were laughingfor less time than others, but still like over the course of multiple months.That was the culmination of the vest players in the world absolutely focusedon the one task. I think that if there hasn't been as much of a unified efforton that and that's not because I don't think these tournaments are valid oranything of that nature Um, I think you know you find a lot of players who havelost te motivation or sing. Se themsemve out or you know, maybe onlystarted testing once c o became available you don't you don't see thatFurvor, where you're ringing proxies to locals just 'cause, you can't yeah, youknow like you, have you have table top stimulator? That's an option and youhave like on is options, but it's not the same Um. You know you can't really achieve that same level of like enthusiasmthrough a whole community in that way. Unfortunately, and so I I don't think,it's really possible, because if we can't get to the end game of a Metawhen we have literally everyone in the world like labbing for the postartationform and also the fact that it's preoritation, I think, also hasanhelement to it as well, where Yo should have subsance of commutity thatare working on post ortation, don't really care about for irritation. Andthen yet people who are playing a Pog Wyo like want o do preitation, whileit's available e, that's another factor in whereas Wa worlds. Last year, forexample, everyone was ready for rotation, evenif you were in worlds like. You were thinking about rotations, andbotation,tack, Um, so yeah at everyone in the world,they're all playing these decks, tere all butt n their heads together, and westill couldn't get to the end game of the foremat completely. So I don't, if it's not possible forworld last year, I don't see how it could be possible for the world'sformat this year yeah, especially when you factor in that you know we're noteven talking about the best players in the world necessarily like the day. Oneis just literally anyone that wants to play, and that's not a you know slighton anyone, but it's like. Certainly there, the quality of the averageplayer is going to be lower than it would be out world's anyway. So that'sa an interesting thing to think about is like a DA an met Oerada to Meta andhow you know you have that at worlds where it's kind of like okay, what do Ithink people are going to play Inday one and then will they switch and daytoo, and you know there's a lot of questions I go along with that, but even more so now the day on Meta couldbe completely different from a day Tometa, just because the vast amount ofpeople that are trying to qualify for date. To that, don't I mean th t theydon't necessarily have to have any. You know any accomplishment. You knowthat's that's cool and and kind of scary and right an and I think the way that youmean to phrase mean I don't think you're phraseing it wrong, but I thinkthe way you ar trying to portray this is it's not really about like the skilllevel or anything like that, it's more so when you get these concentratedpools and players, it's much easier to understand like what they're thinkingand what they're going yea play. You know when you get a huge pool ofplayers that anyone can enter like. You have no idea what the mindsets of thosepeople are: Yeah Right, Rityeah, exactly that's another gray way tophrase whald I just so. It really opens up all sorts of rabbit holes that youcan go down when you're thinking of like trying to predict the medow andthat's like and that's a problem too. I mean we talk about this a lot but justkind of getting in your own head about okay. Well, you know here are the topdecks nd and everyone says the taptecs, but then you know maybe this other deckwere just completely overlooking and, and you know that ends up being thebest deck and having the most placements, and I mean yes like to anextent. You know any content that you listen to. The people that areproducing the content only have so much time to think about and test whatthey're talking about and so like you can never take um anything that anyonesays you know the best player in the world, the the worst player in theworld. Like you C an you can draw...

...positives and negatives, I think fromfrom anyone, that's te that creates content and so Um, you know you're,just we're Gona, there's going to be things that slippedthrough the cracks.That's all I mean to say yeah so thatall be said that giant Geofice,let's Kindof dive into what our thoughts are going to be. I dotit own acouple of decks that we talk through before the cast. This certainly is notinclusive. We might even think of something in the middle of talkingabout these decks. Like Oh yeah, we didn't write this down, but obviouslythis is nome thing O, U Tlk about, but what we have jotted down, startingfrom the top we got to talk about atternaitis I mean this is the covercar of the set itis. Really the focal point under the darkness of believesformat m got that megaray field to it, where you're drawing a lot of cardswith your drawta six Poma, you got your bench of AIDS you're doing a little over to forty damage, but thetought. Is there like you're doingthirty for the bench yeah so JW? I I've been a proponent of atternatives forthe last few weeks. I really like the deck. I still really like the deck, I'mcurious. What ear thoughts are yeah? Well, it's definitely the biggest likeGoham deck. If you look at it it just it's the new thing. It's definitelysomething that Pokmin has wanted to. You know make a big thing like that's.You know ve, like a very reasonable reason to play. It is that it is thenew deck and it is very strong and like it is something that the testers youknow when they're creating the cards said. Okay, we would like to make thisbecause it's better than what has come before it. You know in there in theirtesting Um, in order to get people to buy cards oanother another topic, but Um yeah, itis, very strong, and I think one ofthe biggest things that it has going for it is that is its vicabl mat up mmand you know. Obviously we have to talk about these decks in context of otherdecks. So we're going to talk about people in more and death later, but um the vegable deck as it's starting tokind of formulate around this kind of just very straightforward concept. Imean it still has a very bad match of against atternatise. I think that's oneof like the selling points for me when I'm looking at whether or not I want toplay atternatives know it doesn't have um necessarily Gra matches across theboard. It can get kind of skunkd out by a fire, sometimes M. ADP can be a very unconventional match up like it feelsvery close h, and then you know there are things like Decidui, which arereally really difficult to beat with aternitives, and so there's somepositives theres. Some negatives. I'm curious to hear your thoughts onalternatives in terms of match, upspread yeah. So when I think ofAternitises, you know, there's only so many darkfolk mon that you can tack and even then there's only so many dark book,one that actually like do something. You know when I think of the HOOPUPhere. Neither of them is really that fantastic of a card. To be honest, youknow they're fine, but but they're they're like easilyplayed around or H, don't do enough damage to be ou. I really don't likethe the Zaptos Huba that does the ninety. I really don't like that cardUm for multiple reasons like switchingaround it is annoying. Attaching a energy to it is annoying like the pokeis, is fine, but you know your attachments are so valuable and theturn in his teck as well that it just feels KINDOF icky to do it. That's besides the point, though, likethe dark folkm on you, don't have a lot of tools in your box like really theshr, the only shricks that atternaties really has at it's Di Pposal ispotentially dellg extrananigans and potential like Zigzagon geanigans andoutside of that it's a relatively shapeforward deck and I think there'snothing wrong with that. We seek forar decks, do fantastically well all thetime, but I think that's probably its biggestweakness and that's where you see...

...bad matchups up here, yeah go knowgoing down that list. I think a turnust does exactly what I thought and wantedit to do really. Well, where it'll reliably to Hiccao any VNAX,potentially ONAT Caon his Exians, and it will reliably one hic Hao. Anythingthat's no to be Max and I think it does that job really really well. What itdoesn't do. A good job against is things that can tip price tradesagainst it. So the eighty te match up is close just because you can one hicof the ATP out of the gates, but they also can just really tilt the prizetrate, and we were talking about this right for the cast where you know. I feel so bad that you canone HC on at P, onturn two like before they alls read creation, potentially Um.I guess it would have to be altered for this to really happen but, like let'ssay they altered, turned to and you went second or something and U Ko theatternit. You Carr the AP with your atternatives. You know d. Now it'sthree prizes to six, like you should theoretically ind your brain Bein, agood spy. There H and Rin t e three hundred and forty undamaged pokmon inthe ACG right, no damage on your board like you're, feeling, good and butthere's just always, the potential thou can go gusgost and win. I would throattack and there's nothing. You can do about that. There's nothing! You can doto outtrade thet unless they bench a second eighty p for some reason, whichyou know that's on that gghtknoyou don't have control over that right, a still hink. The matchet wasclose because of the fact that you can come out of the gate so aggressivelysure, and also like Gust Gust, while also powering up reliably is like notsomething that you can necessarily pull off every game, so the matchupis close.But you know that's just an example of you know, there's a dact that has a bagof tricks to it like it gets around prize trades, and that is somethingtaturns can't necessarily handle very well yeah sure, and then the otherthing too. That um is, I mean it's it's a hindrance. I thinklike you're talking about the Bagot tricks, it's just like the way it hasto be constructed and I feel like the lists that are coming out are prettystrong for eternities. Just because you have to m. You have to have so manypokemont on your Banch Yuat, the d devote Damini slots to all these pokminthat you don't necessarily want like we're talking about like the hoopahsand stuff like at a certain point outside of the atternatives, thecrobats and the Xixiguns Kinda like okay. Well, I guess you know. I got theDar Inwell on you so right, you know, and like I mean I guess, Spiri to orlike I guess you know, people are messing with meouth. You know yeah andthere's just comes a point where it's like. Well, I don't really know what toput in and there's nothing that really like extremely aids me in my quest towin the game but, like you have to include so those kind of feel like deadslots to me in a lot of M in a lot of scenarios in a way and that they're notas geared toward helping you win likesometimes yours, Youre playing hoop is down just so that you can fulfil the arequirement and they're never going to come into play and sometimes likeyou're benching crowbats. Your only way to draw with the Pocamon just becauseyou need that extra, you know thirty damage, even though you've played acrobact earlier in the game, so there're, some weird things that comearound with the e neckbuilding that just kind of hinder it, where you can'treally do anything too spooky like alternatives. Just is right. No, I agree with the go to crow thatpoint more than the hoopapoints 'cause. I don't think it really matters. If youhave a one PRI orn evence, I doesn't do anything yeah, yeah sure sure, but you know I think,we're getting at the same underlying point where the the deck is sostraightforward and its trying to do one thing, and it does that thing verywell, but when other things like ADP or deciduy or mill, Dacet Omoo energy,like all those things, are not playing the game in the same way that you'retrying to play the game and when that happens is when it hurtedis falters. I still think it's a very...

...good deck. It can win a lot of matchupsjust off of like being really aggressive. It's probably the mostliket. Most often the most aggressive deck onthe second turn of the game. whereit's doing you know between two ten and twoseventy reliably on the second turn, assuming you hit your attachments, ummm and there's lots of be said for that and I think DEP decks that do reliablydo a lot of damage very quickly. It tend to be successful, so yep y yeah, Imean yeah, but it's it's just interesting like it is probably thebest Vmax Pokamon. I think we would both agree with that. Just like. If youlook at the card like the damaged potential, for how little cost it takeslike the best ov mxcard that we've that we've seen, but it doesn't have thatsupporting cast that something like Centa scorch might have where you knowyou could come in with the Heatran and like one shot something Um or you knowyou Gonta play all these other poke hem on Aao, dark welder, either yeah nodark, well ther. But you know what I mean like there'sno like this supporting cast like you. Just have atternatives pretty muchmanual attanciens. Unless you want to go some kind of turbopat rout, whichprobably is an ideal and then you're just trying to swing and like hopingthat your jaws are good enough, that you can get out Um, you know what you need to get out theturn. They should need to get. There's no real tricks. Like you're saying Ilargely agree and know, I think we're going to end up heating the same pointover and over. If we keep talking a Ou Aturnit, as you know, straightforwardACK, powerful deck. I I still like it like that's yeah. Well, that's Sadha tosay like that's, not e, like it' still is still actually probably my favoritedact to play. You know it has a and acknowledgingthos is important. So let's go just write down the list,then I think the first act that you specifically called out with the tern.This is peakable and oactually in this prerotation forma veable has certainlytaken the world by storm. You know getting the ACS to electric powers andthe Thunder Mountains is certainly a boon. You have been a big propona of vecablefor a while. Now, how are you feeling about that? That I mean, I think it'sreally good, I'm pretty like pretty set on just about shipping. It like it justfeels very good against the known deck aside from aternitives like it should reliably be a DP. It should reliably befire, maybe have kind of a ify match up against CENSA Scorch, depending on howthey draw, but it just feels like a deck that doesn't take a ton of bandmatchhips and can even wiggle out of a lot of bad matchups. I've just beenloving the deck a lot more now that I've ditched a lot of the the the fatin terms of Marip, and you know, slumbering forest. It was kind of coolto play with that, and I think that like has a place to be played but M,when you just make it more of trying to get out that second attack and doingone ninety, I ever lamed them reg forest o sure, but I think it was. Ithink it was viable like. I think it was like a thing that that should havebeen discovered and should have been played and, like shouldhave been messedaround with, but then making the deck be able to stream. You know one ninetyat the end of the game. You just get to this point that you know you'recheckmating towards the end of the game and likeyeah, you just get to the point where you almost can't lose when you havelike two Beaga Bolts on the bench that both have three energy attached andlike you're, just item locking and you're waiting to you know, draw yourlast boss or you're waiting to Um. You know get enough damage on the active todo one. Ninety to it and knock it out. I mean there's just a lot of a lot ofbonuses there to playing vicavle that it can wiggle itsway out of band matcships. I have some pretty solid matcips again against,like EDP n fire, I would say the two biggest ones and against you, thingslike mad party just is going to destroy against things like Straigt Xaution,it's just in a body, and so it's a dact that I would think a lot of people willgravitate towards because item lock again can get you out of stickysituations. Yeah, I mean im a...

...historically a fan, favorite orFamili's favorite, depending on which fan you ask buty. Certainly a powerful archetepelike historically item OK for low energy caust has been very good. Idon't think that's going to change with the onset of Equaal Um. One thing I definitely agree with youon is that second attack on Egle is super good actually, and it kind of works out really well,where you get a poke or two off with item Wock, and then you blow somethingup, but then also the time that you afforded yourself with the item. Lockhas also set up your future attackers Um, and it all culminates in the factthat you're attacking with a two prizor, yeah and ecable honestly of the decks thatwe have listed is one of the decks that feels most impacted by rotation. To me,you know asing, Electric Power Losing Thunder Mountain Yeah. No doubt I Ilike really don't think the deck works without Electri power, Ou know it justand that's yeah. That's that's pretty obvious. Just the damage boos and beingable to hit the certain numbers. Um is really really valuable, but bable is adeck that I am not going to be shocked. If a lot of players play it because itdoes have a little bit of room to be Spooky, I mean you can play withhammers. You could play it with. I mean I think Turbo Patch is pretty much thenorm, but you can do it with just a bunch of different things. Um todisrupt you know you could play with Absaul. You can play it with likeGolarian slowbrow. If you want to get some poison damage s well, Um, you knowyou can play with drags. You can play without DRACI, there's a lot ofdifferent ways to build it that are all reasonably good and they can allreasonably Um win. You know a high percentage of games. I was playing itbefore the stream and I just wanted to get ten games in with it before icetream later tonight, and I went one two three, our five six, seven yeah like eight and two or somethinglike that to just like you know not really even thinking about it, maybenot putting a ton of m effort into the list Um, but just running it, seeinghow things things seeing how things felt again Um and it felt great yeahyeah. It was a really great D. I mean one thing I want to specifically callas well is y. You talk about Baggat tricks and you list a bunch of Po Aon.I want to even argue like compared to atternitives. Vigawold itself has moreto it than like the entireety of the Interni Yeah Yeah, like you, could just playvicable and like the supporting items and already is a more complicated ACthan the entire attorn Othis tacuthat's, not ther one. One of the coolest thingsthat I like about vecible is that it can utilize Gaust, I think better thanany other deck in the format, and that is just like you can. Bos is orders upsomething to Staf or return like very reliably. You know there are a lot oftwo retreat: Pogaman Arangaroo Zashian, those both you know just come to mindinstantly and then many others, but you can gusup something. And then, if youneed that extra turn, you know you can usually buy it right. Er, you gussupsomething that you don't necessarily want to Ka like like in Arangaroo andjust stallit for a turn or two. While you get energy built up or while youfind the resources that you need the electra powers or something on the nextturn to take the big one shot on the threat. You know that your opponat hasthat's one of the things that I really valued in that there were times where Iwas playing the deck and I was like okay. You know I don't win if they getan attack off. I just need, like a turn or two more and just being able to gussup something on the bench stall it and you can really out manoeuver youropponent in a lot of ways yeah. I definitely agree with that, and I don'tknow if you watched the tricky achine today, but it happened, live againstAndrew Right. Right, don't Wik is powerful man, I mean. Whatcan you say? It's historically een powerful? It's be aly going to bepowerful for the entirity of its existence in Fouk contraten card game.You now you can't sleep on Heightam, locktecks yeah. I think Beagle is probably in mymy top three decks that I would consider for the for the PoChampionship or any postartation or...

...preortation rather game play at themoment is just so strong and I feel like you really want to take advantageof it. While you can, because hase so much that it benefits from prerumtionlike and not as much as other ducks that it's like you know it likes tohave certain cards, it's like Ust, like really likes to have these guards. Youknow it loves the electric HOURAS, the loves WOT Tuntermountin, although Iwould say formakable that I I think it has the biggest target on its back ofthe new decks like we could talk about atternitives but m the amount ofaternitives that I you know, and this is again on the ladder so like we won'tknow about what happens, but I think, t to an extent we can take the resultsfrom the ladder and apply them. Oudeen argue too how it's s big, like yeah,the latter's actually probably a decent representation, especially ythe people.Ia latder right now are probably people who are thinking about playing intournaments. Like this sure sure- and so you know- I just haven't seen a lotof alternitives on the ladder and I've seen a very um sizable amount ofveagabold, and so I I would just think that, if you're heading into the itlestchampionships, you would want an answer, two vigavolds in your deck or to play adeck that can handle vegavle or at least have a game plan against it,because you know it just it is something that has been played a lot onthe ladder I've noticed. So this is your glowing endorsement of failings,tenstone ene right. Yes, everyone play, I will say: Stoe journer was was Kindagood, I'm just personally proud of myself fornot forgetting faling's name there you go for like the third time,so know, we've done it. I I really am jus bad. I don't know why ecause I likeFalins, when it comns non e homes down and the pressure's on rememberingFalixis dos to man when the Brit lights are on. You crumble, it's true, at least. If it comes thefailings, so begable fantastic deck definitely got a big target if you'rebooking to play in any of these preiritation formats, make sure thatyou have a way to deal with egabl like if Youl lose immediately to a you know,turn one going. Second Paralyzing Bolt probably should be consider like, maybethink about it, yeah for sure Allto, although I mean it, it is like it'sgonna it's going to have a target Oz, his back, and I think one of the fewways that you can counter vegabold is just a play. A deck like not entirelybuilt to beat it, but like an alternative Steck, you know would beatt it. So you have to make your deck choice to be vegable, as opposed tolike I don't think there ere any text or anything that you could just slideinto something to ye atra a good, be idolocg DEX. It's usually not tax right,it's more about like DET building and dectual yeah, just just throwing that out there. Next,up on our list is one that we also specifically called out earlier andthat's the ADP DEK. I mean I feel like we probably don't even need to talkabout ADP too too much in the fact that we already know what ATP does it doesthe same thing as always, the actual lists or a DP really aren' being tootransformative. Besides an Avy, including turbo hatch, I mean I don't have a lot to add to the ADPdiscourse. Besides the fact that I is continually powerful, it continues toSke prie strates in his faver. It's going to wark the entirety of the POAMADA game for the entirety of its existence in the trading card game, andit's good ywell said, but yeah definitely definitely anotherDec. I mean, of course, be prepared for it and probably just the deck that Um. You know it's the known quantity goinginto this tournament. I mean, I think, we're getting a lot of new things thatshould rise to the top M. You know like firebox, I haven't really seen in inpassformats. You know turneas, obviously new bepeople, obviously new.So you look at Adps, just kind of being, like a comfer pick, um a very strongbeck still. Obviously it's something...

...that yeah people will just kind ofdefault too. If they amn'ntested, I think especially, and you now theyplayed ADP. Maybe maybe they played eigt p two formants ago and maybe theyp played a D P s format and they kind of looked to it and say hey. You knowwhat this is still very, very good, a very, very broken ability and should beone of the best xs for the park championships. Yeah M, an AP Wasash Tle, since the adition ofZaashian as continued to be one of the best acts, that's not going to change M and I think too, like you look at itlike. Maybe someone would play Combo's Ashion, but I think the amount ofconposation that will be played, and certainly the amount of composationthat will do well well, all kind of hinge upon Vicavol, that's a deck thattruly like needs to have items to function properly, and if vegable isthis kind of bigger quantity, you know very sizeable share of the medagame.Then that's where a deck like eighty PS Ashon, just like makes way more sensethan something like Cambozasha. You know so so just saying that thatyou know maybe in the last format, we saw ad PS, Atian kind of take up m. Youknow seven to ten percent of the metagame and likeathe. The ZASHANvariants were kind of Split. In this way I think they'll kind of COA lessmore around ADP as opposed to more item. Heavy builds yeah, and I I think theADP is pretty much made iself the prevailing Arian in the current format. Sorr. I agree with you. There sure sureI think also one of the cool things that you can do with ADP, not not totalk too much about it. 'cause. You know we all Kindof know again the knownquantity thing, but you can include like a water attacker and as firecontinues to rise, I mean seriously. I K was laughing 'cause hethe way. Yousaid I don't know it was funny, but as fire continues to rise havingthat water attack of that splashable water attacker, that was a good pintthat splashable water attacker. It was let funny now okay. Well, I ruined it.So having that spleshable water attacker is very valuable because itjust gives you more matshup coverage and type coverage yeah. So we've referenced this deck a lot,though, and I think we got to go into our next one here, which is going to befire primarily the centice scorge teck, so an scorchmen terring up the latterya little bit. I I hope you can speak more to this,because I'm either missing all the streams where Centie Sgorch does wellor I'm just like not playing a good list myself, because for me it justhasn't been performing Um. The way that I feel like other people have had it perform. It just feels likeone of these decks that I'm looking at people saying. Oh, yes, centoscirch isgood like cent sporches like this top deck and I'm just kind of shaking myhead and and questioning that, and so I'd be curious. Ra t to hear youPeakoncento scorch and what you think the matchop spread is and why you wouldplay sent a scorch over just a welder box sure so as compared to like awilder box MHM. Well, first off, I don't in terms of firedacks, I thinkthe VAGL Sepon deck is probably the superior one Um. I just don't thinkthere's any meaningful F discussion to. He had about being L Sefon, like evenless so than eighty t, because it's a less it's a more straight forward. Dackand it does one thing: it's done the same thing: it's not changing at all continuing to do the same thing, but with regards to Cento Scorch, I uh. I haven't been too impressed when Iplay it myself, but I feel like it's one of those dex every time, I'magainst it. They like immediately get a welder and also some energies tocontinue to power up, and I can't Cao it and it gets stronger n. It just gets absurd, and so I thinkpart of centiscorch's appeal is that...

...snowballing element to it where itcontinues to power hitself up more so if they're winning you win harder overtime, and so that makes the deck feel better. If that makes sense, you know'cause like when Y. U, when you meet, people like you're, really reallybeating them, Rih Lik, O you're, just pounding like put on the road likeYoere Gasping, Fr tere they're, not happy about that. So I think that'swhere, like part of the septament comes from is 'cause, you have these insaneblowout games and they feel incredible and obviously o have some close gamestoo. But then you know if you have a loss after that you'll remember thegame that you destroyed the person with and got like a million damage. onturnthree yeah. So are you? Are you kind of saying thatyou think maybe the Hyberot Cento scorch is a little unwarranted? I mean,I think it's fine like it. It's got a lot of HP and you know you could saythat Everyban ax, but think that's kind of a saving grace for allofteeaxes.They Gat a Loto Hell, so they got time to work with. I think if I was going to play a VMACand my goals to do a lot of damage, I would probably play atternatist yeah, because it's a more consistent. I don't know if consistenceArr but like it's a reliable strategy, does the same thing. It's always doinga lot of amage not really reliant on Contineng. You find a bunch of firesand attack rself up and Walder, and all this Shup. You know you that up aboardwith the Ternative than thats you're board yearly you're swinging and you'regood. Do I don't think ten source outright bad? I just if I'm going to put a three Proeound the board. I want it to be Ety Tor, ateritivm yeah. I I mean I feel prettysimilarinly n and that's why Um, I just haven't thought since scorches anythinganything special. I mean you're very reliance on welder M. I I would arguemore so than than something like firebox Um, just in the sense that youhave less time. You know if you are putting the the Vmax into play it just I'm surprised I want to get more repswith the deck and see if it really is something that should be takenseriously, but as if now I would say something like m. You know the firebaxthat I was playing it onstream. The other day had some very good results M,and I liked it a lot and then all my testing, even like pre PDJO, when we'redoing table top with Andrew, like it just wasn't something that I would haveever thought, would be good enough. Yeah and I mean firebox- is fine. It'snot really a deck that I've ever truly likes very much. I really enjoyed thecharazar versions like right after worlds, but yeah like since then Ihaven't been a as much of a fan of playing firebox it' still cont know anN. it's Kinda, like you know, it's Kinda like like they stufpon an thefact. Thatlik, not lots changing about it. Fundamentally is it'. Still thesame same Dand dack that you van seeiyahfor sure oe my logic percentis, which makessense like you know when you win you're, really blowing people out so like Ohyeah, this tecksin same man yeah, I just struggled 'cause like you have Um. You know the numbers just don't workout for me. So let's say you well they're onto a Centif scorch and youget an attachment like you're. Only doing once. Sixty H, you know, you're,not you're, not caoing, Crobat, Um you're. Nowhere near King ADP, Ike, thethreat of cental scorch is the looming aspect of it. Where yeah you know, ifyou know it's got, a lot of health got three hundred and twenty of thosesuckers, and so, if you fail to knock it out now, it's ascarier set to scorch that it was the term before yeah I mean I I guess like I feel likeisn't. That kind of I don't know. I feel like that's kind of a thing withmost stecks, though I guess Mo Seoor...

...chanters, like I guess, racepoint wher,Ie adaguals everything immediately yeah most decks get a scarier board. If youdon't knock them out and CENTA scorch just becomes a scarier pokamo thatdiscords itself gets scarier and it make myself scarier. You know if he hado itself right right and it's kind of exciting. In that way too, you know, I guess I guess I don't know. I justplay a anemore nourator granted. I need more time with it and I need a goodlist because either either my list ishorrible or it's really not as good as it needs to be. But I be I'm really open. Likecentiscorge is kind of for me kind of an unknown factor. I've got my ripsonith. The vpble. I've got my rebsin with EIGTY P. I've got my rebs in withinternatise. I've got my webs in with firebox, but I haven't gone my Repsinwith sent to sqorge I go and got to get your Reps. God t get your Roson man,you know, Ygotta, do your? U gotta do your you know got ta get your hundredyear, Tescor h exactly exactly one last act that I wanted to call outand our profase is by saying. If we didn't call I deck specifically, it'snot 'cause, we don't think it's viable outright, there's plenty of other decksthat are good Um. There's just Kinda like we said for like B Saflon andfirebox. You don't need to call them out too much at this point, likethey're known quantities within the realm of the game that we're playing atthis point. So things like irom slightly es so but drag apole, deciduySPIR SEM. We know what those thens do. We know what how they were and theythey're occupying the same nish they always have. But the last tick that I want to hit onis is the MILDAX. You know they disappeared for a little bit there withthe which ragapot kind of oppressing them to a certain extent, keeping themdown with they're sniping constantly, and I think they've really madethemselves poised to return. I think they have decent match. UPS against alot of the topdics that we've just mentioned. So have you experimented atall with mill Il s PPOSE that question Uverse, I'm not, and the other thing isI haven't seen it played that's funny. IML! Oh go ahead, I was going to say Idon't see a lot. It certainly not like you know the original sword shieldsthat drop right where it was just everywhere and it was really taxic. I don't see t like that, but I haveseeen it and every time I see it, it feels really icky. You know for me, okay, yeahue sure, and you know especially you know.We talk about these atternitis tack being stracton word. You know, millreally punishes that you know they get in there, a crutching, ammers andrecycling those suckers. And what is it? INTURN US to do man right? No for sure atternative seemslike a sketchy match up. M ADP seems bad though I mean it. It washistorically not a match if you'd like to see. Obviously, now that a DP hasmaybe some eighty peoplis have gone away from having like all the gust thatthey used to have. You Know Youwre remembering list that PLA I wassockactually this morning h with someone whereis, like you know the four pog mycatcher and then the four custom get down Lik ta, always G. I think tats,like my favorite deck of the year, I was that t yeah for sure it was SuperFun. It was Super Fun, but, like there's, there's a little less gust.You know people are playing like a gray catcher and three Um infont gossisorders or three bosses orders and an eldagoth or some combination of thoseand you're, seeing just a little less gossom. Maybe there's more to be saidabout that manship. Now that you know just the way lists are generally beingbuilt that there is more a chance for amilldeck against eitp yeah yeah. I I certainly think that's onefactor there. Although I'd also argue you know, some of these decks areincluding turba patches, an addition to metal patches, and then you get in thisweird place. Where yeah they can't Goss as much, but the offset of that is whenthey d they will can't really be Oli.

Aner angry yeah, like yea, usually youren game against the eighty fdex is to prevent them from gusting for longenough that you can deny energy but like Thatso, difficult now, yeahsuresure yeah absolutely are more difficult and then you look at other matchepsthat mill Um might be unfavored in N. I think another one I mean is veacablelike that seems like a very rough match of you're not going to be able to getrid of much of their energy you're not going to be able to disrupt in the ways that you want todisrupt reliably, and so that seems very tough as well for me m yeah, butthen you now you're offset of that. It's like ESEFLANDEX are super good foryou! U, the Saniscor Sh, I guess are allmatch up. So that's the thing. But,like you know, you got your your beacabl or or not very good, butyour Turnis is is good. I think your ADP is probably passible enough thatyou can play against it Um you know and then a lot of those more nichtacks likeY. U N W pikarams of the world or the spirit tums of the world or thedecitizes of the world, like those aren't going to be able to reallyhandle you very well right right, I mean e', take logist spot for it. I mean it wasn't a general thing.Certainly, certainly you take very very good matchofs agoins certain decks andthen very kind of scary, matcheps, yeah, it's the kind ofthing that would benefit more from like a day, two thing where you could knowthe medal: a lot better going in yeah yeah. I mean that that's exactly itlike. If you see dean and l 's like no vicaple, you know, maybe you can squeakby and like you just like win the coin, flips against a ADP, and you knowprevent them from getting an altered creation off early or something likethat and you just to take your chances against like one very bad match op asopposed to having multiple M in Indat yeah. So I I think, that's a pretty goodperspective on the Neta. We've called Hem out a couple of times now, but someother random decks would be the digrams of the world, the other Aushian varianslike lukemetal and Cambozashian a dragopole. This kind of a thing saykind of a thing, um trying to think what else you call you mentionedsalaments earlier I hate that card man, I don't know and N. I think you have to mention thisdeck for for the fans out there and thits mad party, its kind of a bib kind of I I mean esl said my or nurseif TNOT horrible, so so mad party would be something where you you probablywant to PLA was. I was playing this with Danny on stream the other day aswell, and he played an agandalgx for the Stinger, and now that you have youknow these three prize Pok Emon. The idea is just that you Stinger and thenyou just need to have like two attacks to win the game, and so I thought thatwas a cool, um potential or yeah. That's a coolpotential. I guess you NEEDT ONE ATTACK 'CAUSE! You would need to get like yoursloaing Hok, like ahead of SOM yeah Youul, get like wheezing or pok ahead,yeah, exactly and and take the take the last prize there. So I don't knowthat's something cool that that I just really admired. I thought T we go goodo sure I mean that party Y W you can't lie. That party is definitely fun yeah. No, for sure, for sure I can'twait to play a post rotation 'cause. I think it'll be in a better position than it is now.Let's talk about the tournament breakdown, though, so you mentioned alot of Dag dw. In your opinion, what are the top the reedacks going to be doctor? DX, probably are ADP andlightning so vigavol and then Pearam. I I really think PGRAM is going to be amajor ount Ergo. That way, I don't see why it wouldn't be yeah, Imean it doesn't really lose. Anything, arguably is arguably the best deck oflast format. It doesn't have any like superhard counters that I can think ofUm, and it's still you know it's very cheap.So, for like a day, one met a game like...

...again, or these are all these peoplethat literally have no Um. They have no disincentive to do poorly. You knowit's not like you're going to London and you're like spending all this timeand you're spending all this money and you're like trying to be correct. Youknow, there's going to be all these people just like chilling on theircouch in their underwear. You know cheeto stained hands, clicking thekeybard and, like I jus Gong Ta, one last ride with Pekaram, as I know it.So if you had to portray that the graper as quite like that, but s no usgjust Y, this is like kind of anaside, but do you think that teaches your prices will play a factor into themedigames these sournaments? Oh sure I mean we were talking about how theladter could like affect how we are thinking about the medigame as a whole,and just like I haven't seen a lot of alternatives. You know, that's thethat's the truth of it M, maybe other people that are testing have, but Ithink, like you, look at that kind of deck and it's you know if crobads are,let's say conservatively: Twenty five packs and eternitivs vmax hovers aroundtwenty packs and then the V is like ten packs and then you're. Looking at plan,you know four of each Um. You know all of a sudden. You have like, like ahundred dollar PT C Godeck. You know somewhere between fifty and a hundredbucks in codes to get this deck, and that's just not a thing. You know thisis not doable for a lot of Morler O. that's not just not an investment thata lot of people want to make sotfor sure. I think I think that willabsolutely be a factor. Yeah yeah, that's rough for sure, Yep Yep,it it Kindof the same thing with Dagopol all the Dragonpol. I think quatits way into the meadow over time M for sure for sure it definitely did towardsthe end game. I think, like you know, you get people that you know get morecoins or whatever they can buy. The packs from the store, like the morepeople do, that they get more lock trade, locked ones, but they just gettheir stuff. You know from playing the game more that'll, absolutely be athing I think after we settle into and like the code, price will drop Um and yet, of course, the longer we go,the more we should see, but I think to go to your point. It will absolutely bea factor that they were so expensive to so out that we shouldn't see a ton of tem yeah andthe reason I asked that is. I would think that atternitises would be themost popular deck in a vacuum where, if there were no outside factors andeveryone just got to play the deck that they wanted to play, you know in ofCommunist Society, Er everyone, unlimited access to coins and pacts andall that yeah aturntis would probably be Ho PooTAT 'cause. I might gin yeah. I don't know how to frame it now. I haven'treally thought about it critically. Enough, I don't think yeah, but if it was up to me I wouldsay the top of the would be actually the first thredec that we talked aboutwith Ternis beable and ADP yeah. It would crice being a factor in the sizeof the tournament. I kind of agree that pigrum his boysdoes sure awl stuff on a trial, maybe liketeraat stuff ot like occupying that fighting for that ther Bot, yeah yeah,I I babeable Saon is another one that I I just don't it should full. I mean I haven't done alot of testing. It should fold of becabold. You know M, it might be thekind of thing where I'm like overestimating, mebols, ons, right, yeah, yeah, Baybe, Suden,obviously being very good against the BMAXTEK, should have a place. I don't know if it'll be a bigplace, yeah so cool. So one last thing we want totalk about had of your questions, and that is the somewhat new debate in the focaontrading card. I I was going to say like an age holdtoday, but it's really not like. This is not relatively new thing in Pokamo,and that is: Is it better to go first...

...or second in the Vocumont traiding CardGame Gw? Ah, they got two minutes T to explain yeah. This was a this was atweet by Andrew and he basically just said. Yes, it is better now to go second in Pogama trading card game and obviously that's not a nuwanced opinion.You know it's definitely like kind of a kind of a opinion that is going forkind of a reaction and but but it is true and he's expounded on Im, moreanjust, saying that your going second is more and more voiable and goingfirst is less and less the optimal way to play certain decks, and I wouldtotally agree you look at certain things m. like a D P, I would arguevigable that for me, do want to go first, but then you look at otherthings, fire stuff. You know the senseof scorge Um and even likearguably atterno. This like wants to go second, and so I think that's a coolnew debate that um displays more skill, both in deck building and in in gameplay, and I think that's a great debate like I think, that's great for the gamethat we're even talking about this yeah. I I will say I pretty much agree witheverything you' outlined. I do think. Second has really risen up into being generally better Umcircumstantially, like there's, obviously circumstances that factor andwhether fir sure second, it's better, but I think second like if you werepicking completely blind. Second, is probably better for most dects at thispoint. What I want to say outside of that isUm. I think if we ever get to the pointwhere going second is objectively better with every single dack AIS, nota debate, then that is very bad and I think that's actually worse than like aMeda gamer first is like consider the better turn and the reason ading. So Ithink that is 'cause. You know going first you're verylimited an what you can do right now and PSECHII can do everything,including attack and place supporters. So if that turn, that is objectively,better, that's very unhealthy. B'cause, like yeah, have these people who aretrapped essentially in their first turn and can't do anything. You know it kindof raigs Yo back to like weird like I don't want to say dog but like similarto dog type metows, where you know a person, affectively does notthing ne' like e attache and pass or something- and you see it happen allthe time for people going first now or they can't do that much an made part ofit is engines of these dacks, but I think if we ever get to the point wherea second is always objectively better and everyone who wins ocrampable alwayschuse to go. Second, then, that is not a good thing right right, hemp game isI an protective whiles, as the game rules are currentlylaid out at least sure sure, and I think I mean fixed to that- would justbe you can't attack on your first tern, but you can't play a supporter, Oh yeah,yeah, and there re heare. There are problems with that too. You know therethere ther're issues of that. I think too, but m yeah. It's just aninteresting thing right now we're we're seeing this shift and, like you said,if it ever goes completely towards going second, is just going to bebetter, but I think we have enough. You know, support Pocamon, where that'snever going to be really the case N. I said like. I think it's not to thepoint where it's horrible right now. It's just something. I think that weshould thk of well. The other thing, too, is that we are seeing, I thinkgenerally, and I don't speak for everyone andevery deck, but were I think, we're generally seeing a lack of or decreasein Turachi Play M. It's certainly for post rotation, like that. That is notsomething that a lot of players sure pla you know just decliss or built in adifferent way in posportation. I think GARACHI's being left out of thatconversation there, and that seems to me, like a gray consistency card. Thatkind of makes up for the lack of a supporter on a first turn. If you'reable to get a quick ball off that Daranc, you know you just get thatextra dig get that extra Um. You know...

...ability to set up in that rearlly game.I mean I just I wan to specifically give an example. Even I think expandedhas reached that state. You know: Bands Ocie, like inor, Any Band PotentialanExpanded the last time we saw expanded. It was in that state we're going seconde, pretty much just always better and that Wa super unhealthy and obviously expan. There's a lot of ecards that, like factor into that, but I think liviting, the first turn soheavily and H, N Givmi. The second turn, all the tools in the world T it's justsupericky like to first turn to any card games, should usually be limitedto some degree yeah of cou ways be, of course you always be gated, somehow Um, but when it's gaited to the point thatyou always choose to go second and that's great ad 'cause, it means youactually aren't really playing the game when you're first Ar Yeah for sure forsure I think that's a good, that's a good analysis of what what we have goneon. Let's move on to some viewer questions rally. Were there some? I Ithink there were something you highlighted yeah in the chat that youwanted to talk about. Well, they automatically got highlighted by thethe highlight future, but very good, but i John had posted that he wanted us totalk about expanded, actually so hits a nice little seguay and if Shaman shouldeventually be banned. So with the abbent of scoopup net is Shamin, maybe ansiquated at this point. Is itno longer have a place in the Mata game? What I'll preface this conversationwith is that I don't think INOROTA will happen and I don't really want Aneradato happen. I think Pokaman was intentionalin notincluding exes on that card, and I don't think that's going to change Um. All of that should shame and be banned.I mean I don't see a reason why it should stay. You know not even so much arguing forthe band is like: Why argue against it like Shamean ennabels, all sorts ofcrazy things, it does incombos. The crobat fills that niche in a morehealthy sustainable way, and someone and chat earlier had askedas a follow question. You know if Shemin remains unbanced shoull, weonbane Haxand, gets this and I don't think that's the solution. I think if it coes down obrining someof the most toxic cars, the game has ever seen or get rid of shamen. I would ratherget rid of shamen and I think to Dana and Croba are justlike the healthier evolution of how that Drawsi spokeman should look,especially in a world where scubup net exists right. So do you have any moreto take on the shame and debate? No, no. I think you, I lined it really reallywell yeah bizinins. Ask Do you think twin energyis too good for expanded? No, it's yeah. It's pretty balance. I thinkthere are enough cards that can I mean here's a thing right like and then youhave. You have so many busted cards that it's like to take out some ofthose bust e Grice to put Os at I as win energy, like part of the reasonthat dce is so good and people like it so much, and then it was hated and gotal this bad name, for itis because it gives you all that extra dexbas to be flexible, um SODAC, likenightmarch. They only want the four dce most of the time like with specalcharge, and you know the special charge, Heis them six, and so that'ssatisfactory, like they're, only trying to attack a couple of times potentially give them a boost andformats, especially where there's lot of denial, sure Um, but not like somuch more that I think it really changes anything right YEP. I would agree, I don't thinkthat I don't think that's Wan Energy is necessarily that bad, because youprobably wouldn't see it as like. An a count. That' feels just dahalending thepoint yright to have like one tenth of...

...your neck B. Energy just feels wrongand then, in that capacity right, where you'relooking at it through the lends of a night march or Los March and then yeah it just feels like there are toomany other good cards that already facilitate your getting the energy outthat you don't need too many more. Beyond the four I mean you could maybeyoun five six but M at a certain point, like you're, defeating the purpose ofyour owndeck yeah. So, John, as a follow question askingyou know if how is expanded get affected over all by a shame and banwith control being such a large thing, and I think you can't really look at itlike that necessarily um where, whereas like yeah, shame andenables pun, crazy combos, but chameen also enables really unhealthy thingsand Ultimat shamement is not a balanceable card, they're not going to call he exes inthe future and so yeah they could ban scoop up net. But what's what's thenext thing? That's going to be broken with shame, and you know we're going tostart having to ban all sorts of cards to account for the fact that shame inexists. You know travered or I Gana- you might be orteband anyway Righ, butyou know like Travnor, is a good example. HRTHAT's, a really toxic Combo, that'senabled by shame. Shamin is what makes that deck work. It's a shamein deckthat plays a Trapnar in it RSO. I you know we can't. We can't foreverignore the problem and ban around shaming, like Shamin, is what enablestoxic decks. Toxif Comodexs, very good. Aren't any other questionshere from Chats Horse E ask? How would you guys feel if pocman made a newbridget card that was allowed to be played on the first tern? I think Iwould be in favor of that. If it worked like how bridget did where you couldn'tuse it on, you now th the major two prizes of the day back back, then itwas ex. You could get one e x or three basics. So if it worked in a similarway where you could only get you know one V or three Basic Pokmunan, I thinkI'd be in favor of that. That sounds great yeah. I M A. I don't know what itI don't know what it necessarily changes. Yeah. I think yourecsultimately a tough point where you know, evolution deck still,probably won't be viable Um and there's not a lale in this format. Tolike makerigid work, you know, briget was really facilitated by lagtly'sexistence versure for sure. Ah, I think one lastquestion here and that's for big D: Five, our three two one askingdo you guys? Do you coaching, I personally don't coach right now, I'm alittle too busy in my my regular Career d y v. do you have any extra catchingslots? Still I do Y. Ah, I do coaching yes, eerch hat o Real John Walter onteter to shoot him over a DM and he'll get back to you right away with withoutcoaching he sat no, but if you do want, if you do wantmore information coaching, I do offer that in in the diskcord I have a wholelittle m section devoted to that so yeah dw's, really good coachshe heardnothing but good things from his clients. This is not me from a biaseprerspective. This is me hearing this from his actual Cocheese, very good sowell. Thank you guys againfor joining us. This is. It feels crazy wrapping up season too man Yeah Ibe otthis week, maybe not next Weea, pretty snoon. We're GOINGTA, be that here nextweek, actually yeah H, ongago. I got ideas though I'm Bruin we go. I've been wanting to get intouch with the HEBRO. I Gad a girl,...

...though I haveben Bon Oka good. I'mexcited to hear what you have to have the Brai. I I I am like. I reallywant to know where you want to take the cast yeah. Well S, Um yeahcoul be so we got good things instore for you in the future. Thank you all so much for the continued supportand listening if Youre looking to play in the Pok Championship be sure to ChekOut pograp codes, dot com to get all your Tso needs fulfilled and we will becatching o guys. The next time these seee.

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